Bad to Worse: SoCal Fire Sends Thousands Fleeing; 101 Closed; Zero Containment

[goldenequity]

Bad to Worse: SoCal Fire Sends Thousands Fleeing; 101 Closed; Zero Containment
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-09/malibu-evacuated-apocalyptic-fire-rages-75000-told-flee-ventura-county

https://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/19/91/34/17/fire10.jpg
residents have been ordered to evacuate after the Woolsey Fire jumped over the 101 freeway, which is now closed in both directions for approximately four miles. The Pacific Coast Highway is also closed northbound at Topanga Canyon and southbound at Leo Carrillo State Beach.

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Trump Threatens To Cut Wildfire Funding Unless Cali Ends "Gross Mismanagement Of Forests"
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-10/trump-threatens-cut-wildfire-funding-unless-cali-ends-gross-mismanagement-forests
"There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor...Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!"

[goldenequity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ_LWGBjC3c

[goldenequity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbjxFhy8WR0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Goh1WzHLG4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ZMp2_UA5c

[Origanalist]

But will he do it? I hope so.

[Ender]

But will he do it? I hope so.

Wait.

If you try to do anything in those forests the BLM will take you down, but if fires take over, then it's the locals fault?

Sounds like a Bundy experience.

[specsaregood]

But will he do it? I hope so.

ill just drop this here.
1061051845496451072

[Zippyjuan]

Trump:

1061168803218948096

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-tower-fire-second-2018-blaze-in-sprinkler-free-residence/


Trump Tower fire is second 2018 blaze in sprinkler-free residential tower

The fire on the 50th floor New York City's Trump Tower that left 67-year-old Todd Brassner dead and six firefighters injured was the second fire in the building in 2018. President Trump's centerpiece Manhattan skyscraper opened in 1984, but does not have sprinklers on its residential floors, a measure required in new buildings since 1999. President Trump, then a private citizen and property developer, lobbied to try and prevent the mandate at the time.

New York City in 1999 became last big city in the nation to require sprinklers, according to the New York Daily News. Under the 1999 legislation, buildings constructed before then were only required to have sprinklers if they underwent gut renovations.

According to The New York Times, Mr. Trump was one of the developers in the late 1990s who lobbied against sprinklers in buildings. He then recanted once the legislation passed with grandfathering provisions that meant existing buildings did not need to install them, saying that he understood they made residents "feel safer." FDNY Commissioner Daniel Nigro said on Saturday that there is extra fire protection at Trump Tower when Mr. Trump is there.



More at link.

[Anti Globalist]

All the videos of these California fires makes it seem like its the end of the world.

[donnay]

All the videos of these California fires makes it seem like its the end of the world.

For some people it is--especially the elderly and firefighters. :cry:

[angelatc]

I am pretty much out of fucks to give.

[angelatc]

Trump:

1061168803218948096

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-tower-fire-second-2018-blaze-in-sprinkler-free-residence/



More at link.

Go the fuck away with yourbullshit pro-government propaganda. This has nothing to do with this thread.

[dannno]

All the videos of these California fires makes it seem like its the end of the world.

God is just punishing the libs for flipping the house.

It's also really close to the Borderline Bar

https://i.imgur.com/SBjIfu2.jpg

[dannno]

Caitlyn Jenner's house burned down, so did The Bachelor Mansion

https://www.eonline.com/shows/e_news/videos/280042/socal-wildfires-burn-caitlyn-jenner-the-bachelor-homes

Joe Rogan and the Kardashians/Kanye all had to evacuate.

Other homes "caught up in the fire" (either evacuated or burned down)


Other celebrity homes caught up in the brutal fire include Caitlyn Jenner, Khloe Kardashian, Kanye West, Lady Gaga, Kylie Jenner and Orland Bloom.

[enhanced_deficit]

Are there any reports on investigations of causes?

Hopefully that's not the case here but there were recent reports of deliberate fires in Israel's forests that caused massive damage.
Has this been investigated that no nefarios hand in this case?


Inferno Terror: Forest Fires as the New Form of Terrorism: Terrorism ...
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09546553.2017.1341876
‎2017
Between the 18th and 26th of November 2016, 220 different locations went up in flames in the Israeli forest. Israeli firefighters were powerless to contain the fires ...

'This is terrorism': Israeli farmers still reeling from Gaza's burning kites ...
haaretz
Jun 13, 2018 - In first, Israeli military fires at Gazans preparing to send flammable balloons ... kilometres of land - pastures, forests, fields - had been destroyed.

Fire damage to Israeli agriculture near Gaza border estimated at $1.4 ...
haaretz
Jun 4, 2018 - Firefighters on Sunday brought a large fire near the Israeli border community of ... are to be considered terrorism victims entitled to compensation. ... to 5,000 to 4,000 dunams in the Besor Forest Nature Reserve and thousands ...


Hollywood stars raise record $60m for Israel army
November 6, 2018
Hollywood celebrities raised a record breaking $60 million for the Israeli military at the Friends of the Israel Defence Forces (FIDF) annual gala last week.
This year’s sold-out Western Region event at the Beverly Hilton Hotel welcomed more than 1,200 supporters of Israel, including prominent actors and singers like Ashton Kutcher, Pharrell Williams, Gerard Butler, and Katharine McPhee.“We are thrilled that so many members of our community, including major Hollywood figures, are coming together to help us support the brave men and women of the [Israeli army].” said FIDF National Board Member and Chairman of the event, Haim Saban. “Standing behind these heroes is one of my greatest honours in my life.”
The event featured a programme that told the 70-year history of Israel through the accounts of soldiers and the military’s various campaigns against the Palestinians.

[dannno]

Still not over..


Woolsey Fire Threatens Homes as Santa Ana Winds Pick Up Again; Containment at 10%

http://https://ktla.com/2018/11/11/woolsey-fire-containment-increases-to-10-as-blaze-chars-nearly-130-square-miles-in-l-a-ventura-counties/

[dannno]

Miley Cyrus, Neil Young and Gerard Butler are the latest celebrities to report losing their homes to deadly wildfires that have ravaged California.

As The Post’s Sonia Rao reported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2018/11/10/california-wildfires-threaten-hollywood-sets-celebrity-homes/?utm_term=.6c1222136750), the historic Paramount Ranch production set in Agoura Hills burned on Friday, while wildfire threatened the nearby homes of a slew of celebrities, including Guillermo del Toro, Alyssa Milano, Lady Gaga, Will Smith, Kim Kardashian-West and Kanye West, James Woods, Orlando Bloom, Melissa Etheridge, Rainn Wilson, Cher and Pink.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2018/11/12/miley-cyruss-mansion-no-longer-stands-wildfire-lays-waste-celebrity-studded-malibu/?utm_term=.5916396f7400


Woolsey Fire: 91,500 Acres Burned, At Least 370 Structures Destroyed; Containment At 20%
http://www.laist.com/2018/11/12/woolsey_fire_hill_fire_day_5.php

[dannno]

https://laistassets.scprdev.org/i/2cd70cd3a00925337faff820bbf36583/5be9988a09e614000895d969-eight.jpg

[enhanced_deficit]

Pretty cruel twitter attacks on a hollywood victim of fire:


November 12, 2018

Actor Gerald Butler Slammed for IDF Support After Sharing Photo of Destroyed California Home

by Shiryn Ghermezian

https://49yzp92imhtx8radn224z7y1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/gerald-butler.jpg (https://49yzp92imhtx8radn224z7y1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/gerald-butler.jpg)Gerald Butler showing the remnants of his Malibu home that was destroyed by a wildfire. Photo: Instagram.

Actor Gerald Butler was criticized by pro-Palestinian supporters on social media for backing the Israel military after sharing a photo of his California home that was destroyed by one of the wildfires currently ravaging the state.

Earlier this month, the “300” star attended the annual Friends of the IDF (FIDF) Western Region Gala in Los Angeles, where a record $60 million was raised (https://www.algemeiner.com/2018/11/05/friends-of-idf-raise-record-60-million-at-la-gala/) and then donated to Israeli soldiers. The event was hosted by Israeli-American philanthropist Haim Saban and his wife, Cheryl.
The Scottish actor posted on Sunday on Twitter and Instagram a photo (https://www.instagram.com/p/BqDOMy5Fz69/) of him standing in front of his smoldering remnants of his Malibu home. He said he was “inspired as ever by the courage, spirit and sacrifice of firefighters,” and asked his fans to support the Los Angeles Fire Department.
Israel haters commented on his Instagram photo, calling Butler a “f–king Zionist,” a “criminal and a piece of human trash for supporting the IDF,” and claiming that his house burned down “because you support murderers.” One Instagram user wrote,”that [is] what you deserve when you support the Zionists” and another asked Butler, “You ever thought it was Gods karma for raising $60 million dollars for IDF soldiers to kill Palestinians? Just a thought.” Another user wrote “Israhell occupied palestinian land but very soon they will be defeated.”

Twitter users were just as cruel and commented on Butler’s photo, saying, (https://twitter.com/NawidTheGrinder/status/1061856153758392320) “That $60 million you helped raise for the scumbag IDF soldiers in Beverly Hills to further oppress the Palestinian people would really come in handy right now wouldn’t it????!!! Your a scumbag Zionist mouthpiece. I don’t feel a bit sorry for you!!!” Butler was also accused (https://twitter.com/yellowled22/status/1061827633208389632) of backing “the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians” and one post said (https://twitter.com/TONYWILL101/status/1061757755483021312) Palestinians were “constantly losing their homes” to the IDF, “the same terrorists you support and help raise funds for. You should be ashamed.”

https://www.algemeiner.com/2018/11/12/actor-gerald-butler-slammed-for-idf-support-after-sharing-photo-of-destroyed-california-home/

[enhanced_deficit]

New flare ups, from Drudge:


CA INFERNO DEADLIEST IN AMERICAN HISTORY... (https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-please-don-apos-t-185532688.html)
New blazes fan fresh fears... (https://apnews.com/cbcaf374df5e4bb6bd82c8894053d2a1)
200+ still missing... (https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-200-still-missing-californias-deadliest-wildfire-record-092228965.html)
Fire and police fought fire as blaze hit home: More than 90 first responders lost houses... (https://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article221509110.html)
Evacuees trickle back to deal with the ashes... (https://ca.news.yahoo.com/california-fire-evacuees-trickle-back-deal-ashes-225835866.html)
REPORT: Kim and Kanye Hire Private Team, Save Neighbors... (http://www.tmz.com/2018/11/12/kim-kardashian-kanye-west-save-neighborhood-fire-hire-private-team/)
Maxine Waters tells Trump to 'keep his mouth shut'... (http://www.theamericanmirror.com/mad-maxine-tells-trump-to-keep-his-mouth-shut-over-california-fires/)
Jerry Brown Blames Climate Deniers... (https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/jerry-brown-climate-change-deniers-definitely-contributing-to-the-new-abnormal-of-wildfires/)
Smoke Plumes May Extend To East Coast... (https://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/11/12/california-wildfires-smoke-plumes-new-england/)
'Everybody is at risk' from bad air... (https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/11/11/wildfires-everybody-is-at-risk-from-smoky-conditions-experts-say/)

[dannno]

New flare ups, from Drudge:

Kim & Kanye Hire Private Firefighters ... Save Neighbors' Homes Too
http://www.tmz.com/2018/11/12/kim-kardashian-kanye-west-save-neighborhood-fire-hire-private-team/

https://images.tmz.com/2018/11/12/1112-kanye-kim-tmz-9.jpg
(http://www.tmz.com/2018/11/12/kim-kardashian-kanye-west-save-neighborhood-fire-hire-private-team/)

[Schifference]

California legislators need to get together and ban wildfires. They cause CO2 emissions and are bad for the air.

[Ender]

Trump Threatens To Cut Wildfire Funding Unless Cali Ends "Gross Mismanagement Of Forests"
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-10/trump-threatens-cut-wildfire-funding-unless-cali-ends-gross-mismanagement-forests
"There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor...Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!"

Someone needs to edumacate Trump to the fact that the So Cal fires are NOT forest fires.

[dannno]

Someone needs to edumacate Trump to the fact that the So Cal fires are NOT forest fires.

Wow, you get your talking points from the same place as Republicanguy..

But ya, you're right, there are no forests in Malibu...


Lower Malibu Creek Loop
https://3q6jfk244bi51myw1n49at43-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/malibu-creek-state-park-10.jpg


Lake Vista Trail
https://www.hikespeak.com/img/la/Malibu_Creek/malibu_lake/Malibu_Creek_Deer_Leg_Trail_IMG_6977.jpg


Upper Solstice Canyon
https://www.hikespeak.com/img/la/Castro/Upper_Solstice_Canyon_Backbone_Trail_IMG_4802.jpg


Tapia Park
https://www.outdoorproject.com/sites/default/files/styles/odp_header_adaptive/public/features/dsc_2783.jpg?itok=zRG11A8R



It is correct to say that most of what is burning in Malibu is shrub as opposed to forest, but this whole idea that California doesn't have any problem with forest management, and that the more deadly fire (The Camp Fire) up north was not started in a forest.. is retarded.

https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/SJM-L-LINES-1110-10.jpg?w=620

[Ender]

It is correct to say that most of what is burning in Malibu is shrub as opposed to forest, but this whole idea that California doesn't have any problem with forest management, and that the more deadly fire (The Camp Fire) up north was not started in a forest.. is retarded.


I was talking about S Cal- not the north.

[Swordsmyth]

Wow, you get your talking points from the same place as Republicanguy..

But ya, you're right, there are no forests in Malibu...


Lower Malibu Creek Loop
https://3q6jfk244bi51myw1n49at43-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/malibu-creek-state-park-10.jpg


Lake Vista Trail
https://www.hikespeak.com/img/la/Malibu_Creek/malibu_lake/Malibu_Creek_Deer_Leg_Trail_IMG_6977.jpg


Upper Solstice Canyon
https://www.hikespeak.com/img/la/Castro/Upper_Solstice_Canyon_Backbone_Trail_IMG_4802.jpg


Tapia Park
https://www.outdoorproject.com/sites/default/files/styles/odp_header_adaptive/public/features/dsc_2783.jpg?itok=zRG11A8R



It is correct to say that most of what is burning in Malibu is shrub as opposed to forest, but this whole idea that California doesn't have any problem with forest management, and that the more deadly fire (The Camp Fire) up north was not started in a forest.. is retarded.

https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/SJM-L-LINES-1110-10.jpg?w=620

The leftist trolls have gone unchecked for so long that the masks are beginning to slip from those that were deeper under cover, they have learned that they can get away with anything so they no longer expend much effort on camouflage.

[dannno]

I was talking about S Cal- not the north.

Ok, so can you tell me which fire Trump was mostly referring to with his statement about forest management?

So I put words in your mouth? Sort of like what you did to Trump?

That's why I put the pictures of the forests in Malibu first... they have trees there, so trying to make Trump look like a dumbass doesn't work too well.

Then as an aside, I noted that the origination of your talking point was an article by a "scientist" from New Mexico who claimed that the Northern California fires weren't burning forests. That was posted by Republicanguy minutes before you. But the fire up there started in a forest, that entire area is forest a lots of trees, so that article was kinda dumb.

The more deadly fire was in the area with the poor forest management.

[Ender]

From the President of the California Firefighters Union:


Speaking for the emergency services personnel on the ground, the president of the California Professional Firefighters union commented: “Wildfires are sparked and spread not only in forested areas but in populated areas and open fields fuelled by parched vegetation, high winds, low humidity and geography.

“Moreover, nearly 60 per cent of California forests are under federal management, and another two-thirds under private control. It is the federal government that has chosen to divert resources away from forest management, not California,” Brian K Rice said.

Mr Rice further branded Mr Trump’s assertion “ill-timed, ill-informed and demeaning to those who are suffering” as well as “dangerously wrong” in conversation with CNN.

[dannno]

From the President of the California Firefighters Union:

This is just insane. You don't even read Trump's tweets, all you do is repeat retarded leftist talking points.

Trump took money away from federal forest services because they mis-manage the money. They spend billions of dollars and the forests are horribly managed.

To a leftist, more money is the solution. Trump knows that isn't the solution, and the whole point of his tweet is that the forests are mis-managed, not because they don't get enough money, but because they suck.

Then the leftists say, "Ya, but you took away their money, it's your fault!!"

They don't understand that every Republican who hears that is laughing at them.. because Republicans know that just throwing money at problems rarely leads to good solutions.

[Swordsmyth]

This is just insane. You don't even read Trump's tweets, all you do is repeat retarded leftist talking points.

Trump took money away from federal forest services because they mis-manage the money. They spend billions of dollars and the forests are horribly managed.

To a leftist, more money is the solution. Trump knows that isn't the solution, and the whole point of his tweet is that the forests are mis-managed, not because they don't get enough money, but because they suck.

Then the leftists say, "Ya, but you took away their money, it's your fault!!"

They don't understand that every Republican who hears that is laughing at them.. because Republicans know that just throwing money at problems rarely leads to good solutions.
TDS is incurable.

[Ender]

This is just insane. You don't even read Trump's tweets, all you do is repeat retarded leftist talking points.

Trump took money away from federal forest services because they mis-manage the money. They spend billions of dollars and the forests are horribly managed.

To a leftist, more money is the solution. Trump knows that isn't the solution, and the whole point of his tweet is that the forests are mis-managed, not because they don't get enough money, but because they suck.

Then the leftists say, "Ya, but you took away their money, it's your fault!!"

They don't understand that every Republican who hears that is laughing at them.. because Republicans know that just throwing money at problems rarely leads to good solutions.

YOU are insane.

The fed has NO BUSINESS running states' lands. The real answer is to get .gov outta the properties & let the states actually taking care of their own lands.

The Bundys were in actual prison for taking care of the land around them. Now the answer is to blame the states when the Fed controls all the open land?

[Swordsmyth]

YOU are insane.

The fed has NO BUSINESS running states' lands. The real answer is to get .gov outta the properties & let the states actually taking care of their own lands.

The Bundys were in actual prison for taking care of the land around them. Now the answer is to blame the states when the Fed controls all the open land?
Both the federal bureaucracy (staffed by liberals) and the state of California mismanage the land.

If you want the feds to get out of the land management business you should support Trump withdrawing federal funds, it may not be perfection but it would be a step in the right direction.

California just wants to stop all logging etc. and then blame "climate change" to get more big government tyranny, they are definitely the bad guys here.

[dannno]

YOU are insane.

The fed has NO BUSINESS running states' lands. The real answer is to get .gov outta the properties & let the states actually taking care of their own lands.

The Bundys were in actual prison for taking care of the land around them. Now the answer is to blame the states when the Fed controls all the open land?

This is an example of a response that has nothing to do with the discussion.

You can't just tell somebody they are wrong, and then say something that everybody agrees with..

"No, Trump is wrong, I can prove it because the sky is blue!!"

I don't even really believe in government at all, yet Trump is still correct that the forest services are receiving too much money and are mis-managing the forests.

[RonZeplin]

My mother lost "the Barn", a $3000 a month rental, burnt to the ground. Two upper houses, the main and guest houses survived, by the grace of God. Malibu, Point Dume area.

She's taking refuge at a relative's place in the valley until power & water are restored.

The prominent GOP politician who lived next door to the barn and never cleared brush on his property, had his house burn to the ground. :fire:

[Occam's Banana]

You don't even read Trump's tweets [...]

Wait, wait, wait ... are tweets words now ... ? :confused:

[dannno]

Wait, wait, wait ... are tweets words now ... ? :confused:

Clearly I meant "it wasn't even spoken words, it was a tweet" or whatever back in the day.

But the point is they were commenting on the tweet without reading it, just by blindly saying whatever the media tells them to say about it.

[Zippyjuan]

Due to Santa Ana Winds and the risk of more fires being started by downed power lines, SDG&E (power company) in San Diego County cut off power to the eastern part of the country this past week. One of the major fires currently burning was believed to have been started by a transformer. PG&E (Pacific Gas and Electric) is being sued.

[AZJoe]

1061011794574094336

[oyarde]

I expect everyones ins rates will go up now .

[Danke]

NSFW:

Charred remains from the California wildfires
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=aNGUy_1541825135

[dannno]

NSFW:

Charred remains from the California wildfires


https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=aNGUy_1541825135


1:52



I went to her house right here in this white car to get them out. She had to put her make-up on... She died because of it.

Wow, that is crazy, that sucks..

[Anti Globalist]

I like how MSM propagandists say they feel sorry for all the people that are affected by these wild fires. In reality, they're all happy that people ended up dead or losing their homes.

[goldenequity]

NSFW:

Charred remains from the California wildfires
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=aNGUy_1541825135


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd_AqyPaUTg&

[Swordsmyth]

Kim Kardashian and Kanye West are garnering criticism online for reportedly hiring a team of private firefighters to protect their Hidden Hills home from the devastating wildfires in California.
TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2018/11/12/kim-kardashian-kanye-west-save-neighborhood-fire-hire-private-team/) reported over the weekend that Kimye hired the private team, which was armed with hoses and "tirelessly dug ditches to create a fire break" around their $60 million mansion as fires crept up on their property. Ultimately, their efforts worked, preventing their home from going down in flames like so many other stars' properties in Malibu.
The couple is reportedly also "getting major props from their neighbors" because, in saving the Wests' home, the private team also prevented the Woolsey fire from destroying other homes on their street, as well.
News that the famous couple had secretly hired a private team to protect their own home was faced with backlash on social media this week, with many using their move to highlight the area's wealth gap.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kim-kardashian-kanye-west-criticized-162058213.html

:rolleyes:

[dannno]

Kim Kardashian and Kanye West are garnering criticism online for reportedly hiring a team of private firefighters to protect their Hidden Hills home from the devastating wildfires in California.
TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2018/11/12/kim-kardashian-kanye-west-save-neighborhood-fire-hire-private-team/) reported over the weekend that Kimye hired the private team, which was armed with hoses and "tirelessly dug ditches to create a fire break" around their $60 million mansion as fires crept up on their property. Ultimately, their efforts worked, preventing their home from going down in flames like so many other stars' properties in Malibu.
The couple is reportedly also "getting major props from their neighbors" because, in saving the Wests' home, the private team also prevented the Woolsey fire from destroying other homes on their street, as well.
News that the famous couple had secretly hired a private team to protect their own home was faced with backlash on social media this week, with many using their move to highlight the area's wealth gap.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kim-kardashian-kanye-west-criticized-162058213.html

:rolleyes:

This type of crap really helps you go into the mindset of a leftist..

So, the mega wealthy people who owned mansions in the Malibu hills are not as mega wealthy as Kanye and Kim Kardashian, so they should have all been bailed out by them..

It really never ends.

[Swordsmyth]

This type of crap really helps you go into the mindset of a leftist..

So, the mega wealthy people who owned mansions in the Malibu hills are not as mega wealthy as Kanye and Kim Kardashian, so they should have all been bailed out by them..

It really never ends.
Envy is insatiable.

It doesn't even go away when everyone is absolutely destitute because within a day or two someone will have built a larger mud hut, found a larger berry patch or caught a bigger fish than anyone else.

[CaptainAmerica]

The Colorado river is zapped before it even reaches California. Also.... there are hidden agendas to force the nation into global warming laws, if George Soros would go as far as stealing elections on tuesday, why would he give a damn about setting fire to forests to cause even more chaos? everyone assumes that these california fires are just normal? I call bullshit, there is something behind them that smells fishy..its dry in california but you have TO BE JOKING ....this is year after year after year , and the same whiners and complainers who cause it by supporting liberals want more government salvation.

[Danke]

6227

:D

[dannno]

The Colorado river is zapped before it even reaches California. Also.... there are hidden agendas to force the nation into global warming laws, if George Soros would go as far as stealing elections on tuesday, why would he give a damn about setting fire to forests to cause even more chaos? everyone assumes that these california fires are just normal? I call bullshit, there is something behind them that smells fishy..its dry in california but you have TO BE JOKING ....this is year after year after year , and the same whiners and complainers who cause it by supporting liberals want more government salvation.

Official story is transformers exploding/downed power lines... I think that is true of the Thomas Fire last year, as well as the two in Malibu and the Camp Fire.

[angelatc]

This type of crap really helps you go into the mindset of a leftist..

So, the mega wealthy people who owned mansions in the Malibu hills are not as mega wealthy as Kanye and Kim Kardashian, so they should have all been bailed out by them..

It really never ends.

I think the sentiment is more that Kimye should have let the neighborhood burn rather than redistribute their wealth for selfish means. There's no "greater good" in letting that mansion stand. Letting it burn would have created construction jobs.

Yes, this is satire.

I suspect that the West's property manager was simply smarter than the neighbors and diligent enough to find this service and hire them. Probably not something that's in the Yellow Pages.

[enhanced_deficit]

Fox News: Al Qaeda is causing the CA wildfires. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?28513-Fox-News-Al-Qaeda-is-causing-the-CA-wildfires&)



https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/isis-group-claims-california-wildfires-are-retribution-vows-you-will-see-more-fires/

[dannno]

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:D

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I'm not against the idea that they could use wildfires to clear the land.. but most of the train path goes through desert/valleys that have not been burning. The fires are in the mountains, they won't be building the railway up there.

Not to mention the fire map is totally wrong..

[luctor-et-emergo]

I think the sentiment is more that Kimye should have let the neighborhood burn rather than redistribute their wealth for selfish means. There's no "greater good" in letting that mansion stand. Letting it burn would have created construction jobs.

Yes, this is satire.

I suspect that the West's property manager was simply smarter than the neighbors and diligent enough to find this service and hire them. Probably not something that's in the Yellow Pages.

What if we didn't pay taxes and instead collectively hired private firefighters? :eek: (and volunteer when necessary)

Just saying.

[Swordsmyth]

What if we didn't pay taxes and instead collectively hired private firefighters? :eek: (and volunteer when necessary)

Just saying.
You would get a free rider problem.

That might however be acceptable in a rural setting where managing your own fire risks is more important than how your neighbors managed theirs in determining whether your property burns.

[Zippyjuan]

What if we didn't pay taxes and instead collectively hired private firefighters? :eek: (and volunteer when necessary)

Just saying.

In older times, fire protection was basically a private business. If you were paid up, they put a token or seal on the building to show you were covered. If you caught fire and had a token, they would help put it out. No token, no help. Problem could be if your neighbor wasn't covered and his burning house threatened yours. If nobody put out their fire, it could threaten your residence.

https://www.london-fire.gov.uk/museum/history-and-stories/early-fire-brigades/


Fire marks
Fire marks were used to identify – and advertise – different insurance companies. These marks were placed on the outside insured buildings.

If a building was on fire, several brigades would attend as quickly as possible. The different brigades would use the fire marks to work out if a building was insured by their parent company. If they didn't see their specific fire mark attached to the building, they would leave the property to burn.

As well as fire marks, firefighters wore brightly coloured uniforms to distinguish themselves from rival insurance brigades. However, firefighters received little training and the equipment used remained very basic.

Did you know?
You can still see some old fire marks on buildings today – don't forget to look up as you walk around older parts of London.

[goldenequity]

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[Swordsmyth]

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https://twitter.com/TeaTramRussia/status/1063528099378356225


God is just punishing the libs for flipping the house.



This is just a sneak preview.

[goldenequity]

Trump, speaking about California wild fires, compared Californian forests to the Finish ones...

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https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1063901282270879746
Very stable genius at work again...

Mel
California vs Finland. You don't need to be a stable genius to know why one may have a bushfire problem and the other doesn't.
Trump is the biggest moron to ever be put in charge of a serious country. How do Americans bear it?

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