Democrats just flipped the House and now they plan to cause trouble

[enhanced_deficit]

While there are issues with MAGA's policies relating to deficit spending, double-speak, ties to torturing dictators, private meetings with globalist funders, nepotism etc, but is this the proper winning attitude of House victors towards a sitting POTUS given divisions within the fabrics of society?




Democrats just flipped the House of Representatives — here's how they plan to make Trump’s life a living hell

Sonam Sheth and Joe Perticone




https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5bd324b73196b7348543d39c-750-375.jpg President Donald Trump Alex Wong/Getty Images


Democrats on Tuesday flipped the House of Representatives in a major rebuke of Donald Trump's presidency.
Now that they control the House, Democratsplan to launch an investigative blitz against the White House and Russian interests.
They also plan to focus significant resources on examining the administration's healthcare and economic agenda.

Democrats regained control of the House of Representatives on Tuesday night in the 2018 midterm elections in a major rebuke of Donald Trump's presidency.
The win sparked renewed speculation about whether the party will move to impeach Trump.
But few Democrats want to actively talk about impeaching Trump, whether it's on Capitol Hill or on the campaign trail. For many, the issue is a nuisance and a distraction (https://www.businessinsider.com/democrats-dont-want-to-impeach-trump-2018-11) from more serious matters. Senior leadership has also repeatedly cautioned against impeachment, warning that it would only deepen partisan squabbling in Congress.
Instead of impeachment, Democrats plan to tighten the screws by mounting an investigative blitz against the White House

https://www.businessinsider.com/democrats-win-midterms-investigations-trump-2018-11

[Brian4Liberty]

Nancy Pelosi. Adam Schiff. Maxine Waters. This should be fun.

[Swordsmyth]

The House is still up in the air and there will probably be recounts as well.

[timosman]

The House is still up in the air and there will probably be recounts as well.

Nah, it is all going according to plan. :cool:

[Aratus]

Duckies... ole DJT is almost as corrupt as the divvvil and after a while, he is as boring as sin.
He is not one of the metaphoric innocent lambs of this life. When digging for dirt, much will
be uncovered. His cultists will not believe the hard evidence, anyway, but the big looming
spectacle we are about to be hit by is not meant for the active partisans, instead it's all the
couch potatos out there in TV land who don't follow current events. Both camps want recruits.

[enhanced_deficit]

The House is still up in the air and there will probably be recounts as well.

Lokks like we've lost the House:



https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.aowP5BIeyF_-A-xOBzwtPgHaD4&w=300&h=157&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7
READY TO RUMBLE! (https://www.dailywire.com/news/38045/here-come-crazies-nancy-pelosi-speaker-maxine-joseph-curl)
Dems poised to slam Trump with subpoenas... (https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/11/house-dems-already-have-their-list-of-trump-scandals-to-investigate-here-it-is/)
Tax returns already in crosshairs... (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trumps-tax-returns-already-in-democrats-crosshairs-as-they-take-the-house)
DIVIDED STATES OF AMERICA... (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/midterm-election-results-2018-n931571?DFsa)




https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/151029112055-paul-ryan-gavel-pelosi-super-169.jpg
211 186 (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fullpage/midterm-election-map-2018-live-results-58723598)
DEMS TAKE HOUSE; +34 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/midterm-election-results-2018-n931571)
REPUBLICANS KEEP SENATE (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fullpage/midterm-election-map-2018-live-results-58723598?whichMap=SenateMap) https://www.drudgereport.com/i/logo9.gif (https://www.drudgereport.com)

[Swordsmyth]

Lokks like we've lost the House:



https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.aowP5BIeyF_-A-xOBzwtPgHaD4&w=300&h=157&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7
READY TO RUMBLE! (https://www.dailywire.com/news/38045/here-come-crazies-nancy-pelosi-speaker-maxine-joseph-curl)
Dems poised to slam Trump with subpoenas... (https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/11/house-dems-already-have-their-list-of-trump-scandals-to-investigate-here-it-is/)
Tax returns already in crosshairs... (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trumps-tax-returns-already-in-democrats-crosshairs-as-they-take-the-house)
DIVIDED STATES OF AMERICA... (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/midterm-election-results-2018-n931571?DFsa)




https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/151029112055-paul-ryan-gavel-pelosi-super-169.jpg
211 186 (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fullpage/midterm-election-map-2018-live-results-58723598)
DEMS TAKE HOUSE; +34 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/midterm-election-results-2018-n931571)
REPUBLICANS KEEP SENATE (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fullpage/midterm-election-map-2018-live-results-58723598?whichMap=SenateMap) https://www.drudgereport.com/i/logo9.gif (https://www.drudgereport.com)




Too many people are in a rush to call it.

[TheTexan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

[Aratus]

I called it a few months back, but I did recently backpeddle. I said Donald Trump would be impeached.

[timosman]

Too many people are in a rush to call it.

Delgado in NY 19th district officially tips the scales.

[timosman]

I called it a few months back, but I did recently backpeddle. I said Donald Trump would be impeached.

Do we know what charges are they going to bring against him?

[enhanced_deficit]

I called it a few months back, but I did recently backpeddle. I said Donald Trump would be impeached.

Impeachment is unlikely IMO, more likely a parade of "investigations" and subpoenas... unless MAGA's son-in-law Kushner reached out to his business partner George Soros and brokered a behind the scene deal between two teams so they can carry on in some sort of mutually beneficial harmony.

But Mueller is a wild card still, his findings could change things. But unless Senate is on board also, full impaechment will not happen (as happened in case of Bill Clinton's impeachment, convicted by House but acquitted by Senate). Also Senate is lobbyists' country.

[Aratus]

Do we know what charges are they going to bring against him?

Robert Mueller has yet to deliver his final report. I'm assuming everything attempted or even thought of
in terms of the impeachment process over the past 150 plus years will be flung at DJT. Give them a few
few weeks, the list is long. It may bear a resemblance to the structural framework Thaddeus Stevens hit
ole Andy Johnson with. Expect ALL of Trump's business dealings to be out there for the public to gape at.
His empire is bigger than the one the Clintons were building up, that had triggered the Whitewater Inquiry.

[TheTexan]

Robert Mueller has yet to deliver his final report. I'm assuming everything attempted or even thought of
in terms of the impeachment process over the past 150 plus years will be flung at DJT. Give them a few
few weeks, the list is long. It may bear a resemblance to the structural framework Thaddeus Stevens hit
ole Andy Johnson with. Expect ALL of Trump's business dealings to be out there for the public to gape at.
His empire is bigger than the one the Clintons were building up, that had triggered the Whitewater Inquiry.

This could get interesting.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/pUeXcg80cO8I8/giphy.gif?cid=3640f6095be278c7515a6b5841af2b7e

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

This will be good for Trump in the long run, most likely. If the GOP kept the House, the masses would eventually run into Republican fatigue. There was a big GOP surge in 1996 and 2010, but Clinton and Obama ended up getting a second term, respectively. That may very well happen again.

[kpitcher]

Robert Mueller has yet to deliver his final report. I'm assuming everything attempted or even thought of
in terms of the impeachment process over the past 150 plus years will be flung at DJT. Give them a few
few weeks, the list is long. It may bear a resemblance to the structural framework Thaddeus Stevens hit
ole Andy Johnson with. Expect ALL of Trump's business dealings to be out there for the public to gape at.
His empire is bigger than the one the Clintons were building up, that had triggered the Whitewater Inquiry.

Unlike starr, Mueller's report will be given to the DOJ. The white house may censor away at the report before turning it over to congress, if they even do that.

I think Trump's tax forms are going to be the first thing to come out, revealing he's worth far less than the "10 BILLION DOLLARS" he has constantly claimed and will be the biggest hit to his ego. But his supporters will say "Well duh, you never tell the government what you're actually worth" so won't cause that big of an issue.

[goldenequity]

Urban-rural chasm deepens... https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/415441-americas-urban-rural-divide-deepens
Rust Belt Defeats 2020 Warning for Trump... https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/stinging-defeats-in-the-rust-belt-flash-a-2020-warning-for-trump#gs.QSYtD08
MEDIA STARS WIPEOUT: BETO LOSES... https://www.chron.com/news/politics/article/Beto-challenge-to-Cruz-in-Texas-enters-final-hours-13368051.php
Drops F-Bomb on Live TV During Concession Speech... https://variety.com/2018/politics/news/beto-orourke-drops-f-bomb-on-live-tv-during-concession-speech-1203021779/
GILLUM COMES UP SHORT... https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ron-desantis-florida-governor-andrew-gillum-concedes/story?id=58904451
ABRAMS DOWN IN GA... https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/georgia-governor-race-results-polls-vote-counts-stacey-abrams-brian-kemp-live-updates-2018-11-06/
Refuses To Concede... https://www.yahoo.com/news/history-trump-partisan-bitterness-collide-georgia-052057913--election.html
Poll chaos, busted machines, 3 hour lines... https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7677741/us-midterms-broken-machine-flip-votes
Sharp political divide, rising hostility propel heavy turnout... http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/6/sharp-political-divide-rising-hostility-propel-hea/
Florida to restore ex-felon voting rights... https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/6/18052374/florida-amendment-4-felon-voting-rights-results
Shalala in... https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/06/democrat-donna-shalala-will-beat-maria-salazar-in-florida-27th-district.html
MD Republican Governor Reelected FOR SECOND TERM... https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2018/11/06/gov-larry-hogan-wins-maryland-governors-race/
TAYLOR SWIFT FAILS TO ELECT... https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/11/06/taylor-swift-fails-to-take-out-marsha-blackburn/
Ocasio-Cortez to be YOUNGEST WOMAN EVER in Congress... https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/06/politics/ocasio-cortez-youngest-woman-ever/index.html
Hits ICE in victory speech... https://www.nbcnews.com/video/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-full-victory-speech-1363830339549
Kobach fails in Kansas... https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/06/democrat-laura-kelly-projected-to-beat-republican-kris-kobach-for-kansas-governor-nbc-news.html
First openly gay male governor: Colorado... https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/election-day-2018-americans-set-vote-historic-contest/story?id=58907692
Native American lesbian wins house seat... https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/political-newcomer-davids-longshot-campaign-turn-republican-leaning/story?id=58853204
First Muslim congresswoman... https://www.axios.com/2018-midterm-elections-races-made-history-0c44017a-7a09-4429-90b0-ca25a2629fbf.html
Trans candidate misses... https://www.washingtonblade.com/2018/11/06/hallquist-falls-short-in-vt-governors-race/
Dead brothel owner wins... https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/dennis-hof-brothel-owner-who-died-last-month-wins-election-n933366
RESULTS: HOUSE... https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/house/
MAP... https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fullpage/midterm-election-map-2018-live-results-58723598
SENATE... https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2018-election/midterms
MAP... https://graphics.axios.com/2018-11-06-midterm-election/index.html?view=S
GOVS... https://www.foxnews.com/midterms-2018/gubernatorial
MAP... https://graphics.axios.com/2018-11-06-midterm-election/index.html?view=G

[goldenequity]

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[Schifference]

The house will become much more agreeable because record numbers of women elected.

[euphemia]

Investigation does not belong to the Legislative branch. Congress is to legislate, and all appropriations bills begin in the House.

[goldenequity]

Biggest winner: CIA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx-iXQ8P8k0

[acptulsa]

Too many people are in a rush to call it.

Are you going to spend the whole week in denial?

[AuH20]

The democrats targeted purple districts in blue states and then piled money into the races. That's where a large share of their gains were made.


OpenSecrets reveals that Democrat spending was most dominant in 435 U.S. House of Representative contests where Democratic hopefuls raised over $951 million, versus just $637 million for Republican contenders.

[timosman]

The democrats targeted purple districts in blue states and then piled money into the races. That's where a large share of their gains were made.

While the Repubs were sucking their thumbs in a corner? :confused:

[AuH20]

While the Repubs were sucking their thumbs in a corner? :confused:

Pretty much. VA 2 and VA 7 comes to mind. But there was no way that the GOPe was going to spend money on Bratt. They wanted him to lose.

[acptulsa]

But there was no way that the GOPe was going to spend money on Bratt.

Back to that silly-assed code? You do realize you're talking about the entire national Republican Party except for two senators and about the same number of representatives, right?

98% of the population either has no idea what that means, or assumes you're racist just because you use it and we're racist unless we diligently call you on it. Hardly seems worth the trouble for four guys. Why not just call the GOP the GOP?

Oh, wait. You still think GOPe excludes Trump, don't you? So you want to virtue signal your enduring naivete, is that it?

https://mailchi.mp/tomwoods/civil-war?e=fc95d80121


OK, I admit I'm checking the election results as I answer email on the couch.

So the Republicans will hold on to the Senate and the Democrats will take the House.

I think a lot of people voted Republican today, despite being told by virtually everyone that only a moral reprobate and a mental defective would do so, not because they sat down and studied policy papers, or even because they're particularly enthusiastic about the candidates.

They voted straight Republican as a middle finger to the progressives who dominate the media, academia, and culture.

They look at the Democrats as the champions of those who shout down speakers and otherwise intimidate people into silence on college campuses, who ignorantly and self-righteously blame white men for every evil under the sun, who have encouraged the transformation of America into battleground of squabbling tribes, and who accuse normal people of "hate" for not jumping on every leftist bandwagon within the first ten seconds.

Republicans, so often craven and unprincipled, are unworthy recipients of these people's votes, but recipients they surely are.

On policy, though, even in the age of Trump, the parties are not as far apart as they first appear, as Jeff Deist noted today:

By any objective measure, the ideological and policy disagreements between the national Democrat and Republican parties are not significant. Both accept the central tenets of domestic and foreign interventionism, both accept the federal government as the chief organizing principle for American society, and both view politics simply as a fight for control of state apparatus.

Similarly, differences between policies actually enacted by Mr. Trump and the existing Congress and those likely to have been enacted by Mrs. Clinton and the same Congress are fairly small. While Mr. Trump alarms the Left with his tone and tenor, his actual views on taxes, spending, debt, trade, guns, immigration (the "Muslim ban" was neither) and war (unfortunately his good campaign rhetoric is largely abandoned) plainly comport with the general thrust of Clinton's neo-liberalism.

Today's ugly midterm elections are about style rather than substance, party rather than principle, and power rather than ideas. Americans do not much argue about whether we are governed by DC, and only slightly over how we are governed by DC. But we argue viciously about who governs us from DC.

The sensible and humane way out of this is to decentralize, let people make their own decisions, and call off the low-intensity civil war.

This is the one solution that will not be considered.

[Madison320]

This will be good for Trump in the long run, most likely. If the GOP kept the House, the masses would eventually run into Republican fatigue. There was a big GOP surge in 1996 and 2010, but Clinton and Obama ended up getting a second term, respectively. That may very well happen again.

If the democrats can gain ground with the economic/monetary bubble still inflating, what's going to happen when the bubble finally pops?

[phill4paul]

Subpoenas and bullshit for the next two years. Trump will continue to do everything he has promised through executive order. Nothing in his agenda, excepting the wall, requires the House as far as I can tell.

[acptulsa]

If the democrats can gain ground with the economic/monetary bubble still inflating, what's going to happen when the bubble finally pops?

Problem -> reaction -> we get purged in The Final Solution.

[dude58677]

Subpoenas and bull$#@! for the next two years. Trump will continue to do everything he has promised through executive order. Nothing in his agenda, excepting the wall, requires the House as far as I can tell.

With investigations and no chance of Donald Trump being removed from office, people will see that as a waste of time.

[euphemia]

Congress is the legislative branch. Their job is to make law. It is not their role to investigate. Law enforcement is part of the role of the executive branch.

[phill4paul]

With investigations and no chance of Donald Trump being removed from office, people will see that as a waste of time.

Progressives won't. They will be ecstatic with every new nothing burger. If Trump can continue his economic gains to 2020 he will be re-elected.

[acptulsa]

Progressives won't. They will be ecstatic with every new nothing burger. If Trump can continue his economic gains to 2020 he will be re-elected.

Oh, people will hope the investigations keep them from passing more awful laws. But they will get them passed anyway.

And if they don't, Trump will make executive orders out of them like the good little tool he is.

[Swordsmyth]

Barring recounts reversing the results we will now see none of our biggest problems get fixed for at least 2 years and anything that does get done will be part of some evil compromise with the Demoncrats.

Civil war just got significantly closer, alternatively we are simply doomed to communism.

[AuH20]

Barring recounts reversing the results we will now see none of our biggest problems get fixed for at least 2 years and anything that does get done will be part of some evil compromise with the Demoncrats.

Civil war just got significantly closer, alternatively we are simply doomed to communism.

17 years until the Social Security Fund runs out. Medicare trust fund evaporates in 8. We're headed into the abyss, which may be a good thing. A chaotic abyss beats being choked to death by the globalists.

[enhanced_deficit]

Barring recounts reversing the results we will now see none of our biggest problems get fixed for at least 2 years and anything that does get done will be part of some evil compromise with the Demoncrats.

Civil war just got significantly closer, alternatively we are simply doomed to communism.

Looks like you didn't get the memo, bipartisanship is back.

Trump: "Nancy Pelosi loves this country" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528188-Trump-quot-Nancy-Pelosi-loves-this-country-quot&)Rumors that Trump would ask GOP House members to vote to elect Pelosi as speaker remain unconfirmed.

Trump: Pelosi 'deserves' to be elected Speaker
The Hill-5 hours ago
Wednesday's tweet marked a sudden shift in tone for Trump, who has demonized Pelosi for months as he campaigned for GOP congressional ...

Trump calls Pelosi to congratulate her on House majority
Washington Post-13 hours ago
President Trump called House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) late Tuesday night to congratulate her on regaining a Democratic ...

[acptulsa]

Barring recounts reversing the results we will now see none of our biggest problems get fixed for at least 2 years and anything that does get done will be part of some evil compromise with the Demoncrats.

Civil war just got significantly closer, alternatively we are simply doomed to communism.

LOL

None of our biggest problems got fixed--or even addressed-- in the last two years. If they had been, this wouldn't have happened.

[Swordsmyth]

LOL

None of our biggest problems got fixed--or even addressed-- in the last two years. If they had been, this wouldn't have happened.

Because the RINOs were in the way, now the Demoncrats are in the way.

We had a chance to gain enough seats in the Senate to de-fang the RINOs while keeping the House but that didn't happen.

[Aratus]

Looks like you didn't get the memo, bipartisanship is back.

Trump: "Nancy Pelosi loves this country" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528188-Trump-quot-Nancy-Pelosi-loves-this-country-quot&)Rumors that Trump would ask GOP House members to vote to elect Pelosi as speaker remain unconfirmed.

Trump: Pelosi 'deserves' to be elected Speaker
The Hill-5 hours ago
Wednesday's tweet marked a sudden shift in tone for Trump, who has demonized Pelosi for months as he campaigned for GOP congressional ...

Trump calls Pelosi to congratulate her on House majority
Washington Post-13 hours ago
President Trump called House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) late Tuesday night to congratulate her on regaining a Democratic ...

Nancy Pelosi is not one of the firebreathers on the issue of DJT's impeachment.
If she regains her old position, she'll warn him in advance, about any moves...
The sincere Radicals will want her to not be the next House Speaker, post Ryan!

[acptulsa]

Because the RINOs were in the way, now the Demoncrats are in the way.

We had a chance to gain enough seats in the Senate to de-fang the RINOs while keeping the House but that didn't happen.

Didn't you just spend two and a half years spamming us with the news that RINOs are better than overt Democrats? Do we get two more years of being spammed with that same lie?

[Aratus]

She sincerely is afraid as to where another POTUS impeachment will take this nation...

[Swordsmyth]

Didn't you just spend two and a half years spamming us with the news that RINOs are better than overt Democrats? Do we get two more years of being spammed with that same lie?
They were, things just got worse.

[acptulsa]

They were, things just got worse.

The American electorate has been playing the lesser evil game you recommend for decades, and things have been getting worse for decades. Are you really suddenly surprised this morning?

Stagnation is the inevitable consequence of blind partisanship. As long as people are more concerned with their team winning than what their team actually does, nobody's feet get held to the fire, and nothing good ever happens.

[Aratus]

You were once quite snarky with me when I went to how badly they all wanted to impeach him.
You got exasperated with me when I wondered if GOP centrist/rinos might vote with the Democrats
even if they can't flip the chamber. Please define bad. Bad as in a most total public humiliation for
DJT as many of his inside circle start to serve time in prison in a manner not unlike Dick Nixon's
honchos... Or bad in as maybe many of the GOP Senators who arrived in '14 run the risk of leaving
in 2020? The odds are Nancy Pelosi won't contain her left wing, they will get what they want, soon.

[Pauls' Revere]

I think once the nation gets a good look at Pelosi as house speaker this will help the GOP.

[acptulsa]

I think once the nation gets a good look at Pelosi as house speaker this will help the GOP.

It certainly did last time.

Now if only Americans would get out of the rut. When party A fails, and party B fails, is it not time to try party C? Is that not smarter than going back to a party that already failed spectacularly?

[Pauls' Revere]

It certainly did last time.

Now if only Americans would get out of the rut. When party A fails, and party B fails, is it not time to try party C? Is that not smarter than going back to a party that already failed spectacularly?

Logically yes, but in reality no. Thus we swing back and forth, back and forth, from one lesser evil to the other lesser evil. Which is probably the definition of insanity.

[Swordsmyth]

It certainly did last time.

Now if only Americans would get out of the rut. When party A fails, and party B fails, is it not time to try party C? Is that not smarter than going back to a party that already failed spectacularly?
Thanks to Stripper Guy, it will take another 30 years before they consider the LP.

[enhanced_deficit]

Nancy Pelosi is not one of the firebreathers on the issue of DJT's impeachment.
If she regains her old position, she'll warn him in advance, about any moves...
The sincere Radicals will want her to not be the next House Speaker, post Ryan!

Yea she is a moderate Democrat and probably will find a lot in common with moderate Republicans in the WH that sometime try to market themselves as "nationalist".

[tfurrh]

Civil war just got significantly closer

I'm so sick of hearing this. Has anyone noticed how the media's been pumping this almost overtly for at least a year? F a civil war. Are they trying to stir up some self-fulfilling prophesy?

At least choose another term other than Civil War

[Swordsmyth]

I'm so sick of hearing this. Has anyone noticed how the media's been pumping this almost overtly for at least a year? F a civil war. Are they trying to stir up some self-fulfilling prophesy?

At least choose another term other than Civil War
Civil war is exactly what is coming, two or more different sides will be fighting for control of the country, it is much more accurate to call it a civil war than to refer to the War of Northern Aggression by that term.

What term would you suggest?

[tfurrh]

Civil war is exactly what is coming, two or more different sides will be fighting for control of the country, it is much more accurate to call it a civil war than to refer to the War of Northern Aggression by that term.

What term would you suggest?
This whole idea that a bunch of ignorant racist rednecks lost and are sulking is what the civil war has been reduced to. So now when msm pushes this narrative they're painting it with the same brush strokes.

I also don't like it being conjured up so flippantly with no idea as to just what hardships and tragedy a civil war would actually mean.

I'd hate a civil war and I'd hate anyone who got me or anyone I loved in it.

[Swordsmyth]

This whole idea that a bunch of ignorant racist rednecks lost and are sulking is what the civil war has been reduced to. So now when msm pushes this narrative they're painting it with the same brush strokes.

I also don't like it being conjured up so flippantly with no idea as to just what hardships and tragedy a civil war would be actually mean.

I'd hate a civil war and I'd hate anyone who got me or anyone I loved in it.
I hate the idea as well but the left isn't giving us any choice or accepting any other options, if they lose the political battle they will launch one and if they win we will either be forced to launch one or descend into a communist dark age.

[Pauls' Revere]

I'm so sick of hearing this. Has anyone noticed how the media's been pumping this almost overtly for at least a year? F a civil war. Are they trying to stir up some self-fulfilling prophesy?

At least choose another term other than Civil War

"A kinetic domestic action". KDA for short.

[tfurrh]

"A kinetic domestic action". KDA for short.

http://covermyfb.com/media/covers/thumb/8022-ron-paul-love-revolution.jpg

[devil21]

I think once the nation gets a good look at Pelosi as house speaker this will help the GOP.

I have doubts that she will actually be Speaker again. She's losing her faculties. There's vids on YT of her repeatedly spouting completely stroked-out gibberish on camera.



Thanks to Stripper Guy, it will take another 30 years before they consider the LP.

Wait wait hold on. What exactly did MAGA van man have to do with the Libertarian Party?

[Swordsmyth]

Wait wait hold on. What exactly did MAGA van man have to do with the Libertarian Party?
Not him.

This guy:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olYx5LILl34

[devil21]

Not him.

This guy:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olYx5LILl34

No one knows nor cares about that guy. 9000 views on that video in 2.5 years tells you how much anybody cares or even knows about him. Besides, people like that are plants and should be uprooted at the first sign of subversion.

In fact, to answer your question in the other thread about "what would you do"? This is part of that answer. Get rid of the bozos that aren't serious or are obvious plants sent to make the LP look bad. Idiots act like idiots because they get attention by acting like idiots.

[Swordsmyth]

No one knows nor cares about that guy. 9000 views on that video in 2.5 years tells you how much anybody cares or even knows about him. Besides, people like that are plants and should be uprooted at the first sign of subversion.

In fact, to answer your question in the other thread about "what would you do"? This is part of that answer. Get rid of the bozos that aren't serious or are obvious plants sent to make the LP look bad. Idiots act like idiots because they get attention by acting like idiots.
He is just one example as you yourself admit, the LP has been full of them for quite some time and ordinary people ignore them because of it.

Let me know when you have cleared all of the jackasses out of the LP and made the public understand that it has been reformed so that it is a viable alternative, then we can start dealing with the systemic barriers like "major party" status and plurality voting, that aught to take several decades, until then I'm still waiting for you to explain what our candidates should do if they stop running as Republicans.