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Anti Federalist
11-06-2018, 07:22 PM
I can look forward to income taxation, repeal of Constitutional Carry, mandatory seat belt laws, mandatory insurance, gun bans, increased regulation, crackdowns on home schooling...oh boy.

But hey, there's no difference amirite? (https://www.wmur.com/article/full-2018-new-hampshire-general-election-midterm-results/24561792)

nobody's_hero
11-06-2018, 07:24 PM
You should develop a plan to create a free state and move there, but this time, keep it a damned secret.

No harshness intended, but sadly that's how it's gotta be.

if you create a free, prosperous society, the locusts come and f uck it up. Every. Damn. Time.

phill4paul
11-06-2018, 07:25 PM
Damn. Even in the in the Free State Project state the Libertarians are only getting 1%.

TheTexan
11-06-2018, 07:26 PM
I can look forward to income taxation, repeal of Constitutional Carry, mandatory seat belt laws, mandatory insurance, gun bans, increased regulation, crackdowns on home schooling...oh boy.

But hey, there's no difference amirite? (https://www.wmur.com/article/full-2018-new-hampshire-general-election-midterm-results/24561792)

You should have voted harder. This is why I never use absentee ballots.

nobody's_hero
11-06-2018, 07:29 PM
Still a bit early on those returns. I clicked your link there (after I realized the whole damn thing was a link, lol).

Florida was the same way in 2016. Looked surely blue until the rednecks brought their ballots down the dirt roads and back-water regions to the counting offices. here's hoping AF doesn't have to pack up and move.

oyarde
11-06-2018, 07:36 PM
Well , if it happens AF , I feel for you . At the same time looking at what surrounds you there must always be a worry about it and Yes there is a difference .

AuH20
11-06-2018, 07:41 PM
Republicans aren't great by any stretch of the imagination, but the other party is a highly aggressive organism that knows no bounds.

Anti Federalist
11-06-2018, 07:45 PM
You should develop a plan to create a free state and move there, but this time, keep it a damned secret.

No harshness intended, but sadly that's how it's gotta be.

if you create a free, prosperous society, the locusts come and f uck it up. Every. Damn. Time.

That they do.

And prosperity and plenty creates weak men who will not defend what they built and after a while the whole thing comes crashing down, only to be built back up again after enough hardship and adversity create enough strong men to do it.

And so it goes...

Anti Federalist
11-06-2018, 07:47 PM
Well , if it happens AF , I feel for you . At the same time looking at what surrounds you there must always be a worry about it and Yes there is a difference .

Oh yeah, that's always a concern, Massholes all around.

The difference is that, NH democrats were almost tolerable and understand NH as being unique.

This current mob is a pack of wild eyed Bolsheviks, committed to the very worst Kool-Aid bromides.

oyarde
11-06-2018, 07:50 PM
Oh yeah, that's always a concern, Massholes all around.

The difference is that, NH democrats were almost tolerable and understand NH as being unique.

This current mob is a pack of wild eyed Bolsheviks, committed to the very worst Kool-Aid bromides.

SO , regular american democrats . Yes I hate them . They actually stand for everything bad and nothing good .

nobody's_hero
11-06-2018, 09:28 PM
You there Anti Federalist ? Kinda quiet. We need a chip in to get you a bus ticket outta there?

Brian4Liberty
11-06-2018, 09:31 PM
I can look forward to income taxation, repeal of Constitutional Carry, mandatory seat belt laws, mandatory insurance, gun bans, increased regulation, crackdowns on home schooling...oh boy.

But hey, there's no difference amirite? (https://www.wmur.com/article/full-2018-new-hampshire-general-election-midterm-results/24561792)

The one trend that will continue is that new people will flood into the big coastal cities, and the leftists who cheered the demise of their own communities will flee to foul new territory.

Cleaner44
11-06-2018, 10:05 PM
Damn. Even in the in the Free State Project state the Libertarians are only getting 1%.

This is the unfortunate truth, the Libertarian party is useless to advancing the cause of liberty.

Anti Federalist
11-06-2018, 10:11 PM
You there Anti Federalist ? Kinda quiet. We need a chip in to get you a bus ticket outta there?

Nope, just very busy, at work you know.

Things looked grim, but the Bolshevik opposition in the governor's race just conceded, the NH GOP held onto the State Senate, I'm trying to find out about the State Executive Council and NH House control.

My federal representation still sucks ass, but on a state level, we dodged a bullet.

Anti Federalist
11-06-2018, 10:12 PM
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Swordsmyth
11-06-2018, 10:56 PM
Nope, just very busy, at work you know.

Things looked grim, but the Bolshevik opposition in the governor's race just conceded, the NH GOP held onto the State Senate, I'm trying to find out about the State Executive Council and NH House control.

My federal representation still sucks ass, but on a state level, we dodged a bullet.
Obviously it is a decision that is very large and difficult to make but you might want to at least begin considering what other state you might move to some day.

I have already picked one that I intend to move to when I can leave the one I am currently stuck in.

Brian4Liberty
11-06-2018, 10:59 PM
The one trend that will continue is that new people will flood into the big coastal cities, and the leftists who cheered the demise of their own communities will flee to foul new territory.

Looks like central Oklahoma and Arizona both suffering from Democrat migration... previously safe GOP areas now majority Dem.

angelatc
11-06-2018, 11:10 PM
In Nebraska, Libertarian incumbent Laura Ebke is leading her GOP challenger 54 - 49.

nobody's_hero
11-07-2018, 12:40 PM
Just one question keeps irking me, not just about New Hampshire, but . . .

How exactly does one pull off a win for Governorship and yet not see comparable results in the House?

Now now. I know straight-ticket voting is a plague upon society, but, I've come to expect it. The math is . . . weird. How do you win the Governorship with 40,000 votes over your closest opponent and then lose both house seats by 30-40,000 votes?

New Hampshire must be gerrymandered as f'k.

luctor-et-emergo
11-07-2018, 01:15 PM
Hey AF,

What do you think about moving to the Northern parts of Scandinavia. I think it's too cold there for Democrats(liberals), although they may claim they are in charge there.
If you consider moving there, I'm with you. Nothing better than some northern lights while you're having your champagne and caviar. Although, that gets old after a while. I'm currently investigating which cut of beef is the best. So far I like preparing bavette the best.. A very nice cut of beef. In any case, in those parts of Scandinavia they have some awesome beasts that you can eat. Good fishing as well, very large cod can be caught there as well as giant halibut (GIANT).

What do ya say ?

nobody's_hero
11-08-2018, 03:51 PM
Sununu (R) 302,000 votes statewide for governor

NH US Dist. 1:
Edwards (R) 130,000

+

NH US Dist. 2:

Steven Negron (R) 118,000

= 248,000 (~54,000 republican supporters left the US congress spots blank?)

Now the democrats, Molly Kelly (D) 262,000 votes statewide for governor

NH US#1
Chris Pappas (D) 155,000

NH US#2
Annie Kuster (D) 155,000


= 310,000 (~68,000 democratic party supporters decided not to choose anything for governor?)

This is making a huge assumption that people would have voted along party lines, and hat tip to the state of New Hampshire if you honestly have that many voters willing to vote across party lines, or just a *hit ton of registered independents. Either New Hampshire folk are really openminded, or they have an epidemic of schizophrenia in that state.

I can understand winning statewide but not regional seats. (urban areas). I don't understand how you fail at winning even one out of two regional seats when you take the statewide seat.

Swordsmyth
11-08-2018, 03:56 PM
Sununu (R) 302,000 votes statewide for governor

NH US Dist. 1:
Edwards (R) 130,000

+

NH US Dist. 2:

Steven Negron (R) 118,000

= 248,000 (~54,000 republican supporters left the US congress spots blank?)

Now the democrats, Molly Kelly (D) 262,000 votes statewide for governor

NH US#1
Chris Pappas (D) 155,000

NH US#2
Annie Kuster (D) 155,000


= 310,000 (~68,000 democratic party supporters decided not to choose anything for governor?)

This is making a huge assumption that people would have voted along party lines, and hat tip to the state of New Hampshire if you honestly have that many voters willing to vote across party lines, or just a *hit ton of registered independents. Either New Hampshire folk are really openminded, or they have an epidemic of schizophrenia in that state.
TDS

Never Trumpers and moderates wanted to protest Trump by letting the Demoncrats take Congress.

That or voter fraud.

nobody's_hero
11-08-2018, 04:13 PM
TDS

Never Trumpers and moderates wanted to protest Trump by letting the Demoncrats take Congress.

That or voter fraud.

If they were looking for a split government, it might have made more sense to split the Governor's office and the state legislature. I suppose the cheating could have gone either way.


Either the republicans pulled a bunch of votes out of their ass to take the Governor's office. Or democrats pulled a bunch of votes out of their ass to win both US House seats, but I get the sense that something isn't adding up.

Swordsmyth
11-08-2018, 04:18 PM
If they were looking for a split government, it might have made more sense to split the Governor's office and the state legislature. I suppose the cheating could have gone either way.


Either the republicans pulled a bunch of votes out of their ass to take the Governor's office. Or democrats pulled a bunch of votes out of their ass to win both US House seats, but I get the sense that something isn't adding up.
I suspect leftist voter fraud but I don't know why they let the Republicans have the state offices if they had the power to take the federal ones.

In any case I also believe that many Never Trumpers and moderates didn't want divided government exactly, they wanted to protest Trump because they are insane.

luctor-et-emergo
11-08-2018, 04:56 PM
TDS

Never Trumpers and moderates wanted to protest Trump by letting the Demoncrats take Congress.

That or voter fraud.

Overall America still has better leaders than most Americans deserve. Not you guys but overall the system works, for a lot of people, in a good way. It could surely be better. However, if you look at the average American in terms of independence, self reliance and general skills in life... When compared to your average poor country person, I think the US does pretty good with the people who end up in power.

They say that in the country of blind, one eye is king.. Which doesn't mean two eyed people don't exist of course.

Swordsmyth
11-08-2018, 05:00 PM
Overall America still has better leaders than most Americans deserve. Not you guys but overall the system works, for a lot of people, in a good way. It could surely be better. However, if you look at the average American in terms of independence, self reliance and general skills in life... When compared to your average poor country person, I think the US does pretty good with the people who end up in power.

They say that in the country of blind, one eye is king.. Which doesn't mean two eyed people don't exist of course.
I am quite aware that things could be much worse, that is what I am afraid of, the left is moving into crazy territory and it isn't scaring people away fast enough, if they do get power I don't think we will be as lucky as we have been.

Anti Globalist
11-08-2018, 05:02 PM
I will not allow my freedom lovers in NH to fall victim to democrats.

luctor-et-emergo
11-08-2018, 05:06 PM
I am quite aware that things could be much worse, that is what I am afraid of, the left is moving into crazy territory and it isn't scaring people away fast enough, if they do get power I don't think we will be as lucky as we have been.

I believe in the free market. Especially today socialistic wet dreams will not work. There is freedom to lose, I wouldn't worry about the financial part. Worry about the personal stuff. 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments (and a few others). Fight for these. They are what makes America great. Above all these are the things that once lost will not be regained.

Swordsmyth
11-08-2018, 05:11 PM
I believe in the free market. Especially today socialistic wet dreams will not work. There is freedom to lose, I wouldn't worry about the financial part. Worry about the personal stuff. 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments (and a few others). Fight for these. They are what makes America great. Above all these are the things that once lost will not be regained.
You are welcome to come here if you can.

luctor-et-emergo
11-08-2018, 05:23 PM
You are welcome to come here if you can.

Unfortunately I might have to.

Danke
11-08-2018, 06:19 PM
You are welcome to come here if you can.

Ya, just what America needs, another pizza chef.

Swordsmyth
11-08-2018, 06:21 PM
Ya, just what America needs, another pizza chef.
You hate pizza?

Danke
11-08-2018, 06:25 PM
You hate pizza?

Sorta.

http://i.imgur.com/QAxf4JK.jpg
Anti Federalist

Swordsmyth
11-08-2018, 06:27 PM
Sorta.

http://i.imgur.com/QAxf4JK.jpg
Pizza didn't cause that.

Be careful, that picture might attract AF into this thread.

oyarde
11-08-2018, 07:19 PM
Sorta.

http://i.imgur.com/QAxf4JK.jpg
Anti Federalist

What are they going to do with the salad dressing ?

Swordsmyth
11-08-2018, 07:20 PM
What are they going to do with the salad dressing ?
Some people with terrible taste put ranch dressing on pizza.

Just thinking about it makes me a little bit sick.

Anti Federalist
11-08-2018, 08:03 PM
Hey AF,

What do you think about moving to the Northern parts of Scandinavia. I think it's too cold there for Democrats(liberals), although they may claim they are in charge there.
If you consider moving there, I'm with you. Nothing better than some northern lights while you're having your champagne and caviar. Although, that gets old after a while. I'm currently investigating which cut of beef is the best. So far I like preparing bavette the best.. A very nice cut of beef. In any case, in those parts of Scandinavia they have some awesome beasts that you can eat. Good fishing as well, very large cod can be caught there as well as giant halibut (GIANT).

What do ya say ?

Seriously...seriously...seriously considering it.

I have distant relations in Tromso Norway.

If you had to choose: Norway, Sweden or Finland?

Anti Federalist
11-08-2018, 08:04 PM
Sorta.

http://i.imgur.com/QAxf4JK.jpg
Anti Federalist

Are those her tits or her belly?

Swordsmyth
11-08-2018, 08:12 PM
Seriously...seriously...seriously considering it.

I have distant relations in Tromso Norway.

If you had to choose: Norway, Sweden or Finland?
Be careful, they are getting flooded with "refugees" and their gun rights etc. are nowhere near ours.

Anti Federalist
11-08-2018, 08:20 PM
Be careful, they are getting flooded with "refugees" and their gun rights etc. are nowhere near ours.

Hungary maybe...Poland?

Swordsmyth
11-08-2018, 08:34 PM
Hungary maybe...Poland?
At least they are keeping out the "refugees" for now but I don't think their gun rights etc. are anywhere near ours either, the Czechs almost passed something like a 2ndA but I think it didn't quite go through.

I wouldn't move anywhere outside of the US, luctor is considering coming here:


You are welcome to come here if you can.


Unfortunately I might have to.

I wish the was an America for us to move to but I think Reagan was right:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPvuYxUxEto

luctor-et-emergo
11-09-2018, 05:29 PM
Seriously...seriously...seriously considering it.

I have distant relations in Tromso Norway.

If you had to choose: Norway, Sweden or Finland?

Norway, maybe Finland if you like being close to Russia.

William Tell
11-13-2018, 08:23 AM
I can look forward to income taxation, repeal of Constitutional Carry, mandatory seat belt laws, mandatory insurance, gun bans, increased regulation, crackdowns on home schooling...oh boy.

But hey, there's no difference amirite? (https://www.wmur.com/article/full-2018-new-hampshire-general-election-midterm-results/24561792)Man that sucks. Hopefully at least the GOP governor will veto that kind of stuff?

William Tell
11-13-2018, 08:32 AM
Things looked grim, but the Bolshevik opposition in the governor's race just conceded, the NH GOP held onto the State Senate, I'm trying to find out about the State Executive Council and NH House control.

My federal representation still sucks ass, but on a state level, we dodged a bullet. Any update on the senate? From what I'm seeing the dems did win.


https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/new-hampshire/articles/2018-11-07/control-of-new-hampshire-legislature-flips-to-democrats CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — New Hampshire (https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/new-hampshire) doesn't have an official state dessert, but maybe after Tuesday's elections, it should be the banana split.

Though Republican Gov. Chris Sununu won a second term, he and the leaders of both political party organizations said control of the state House, Senate and Executive Council all have flipped from Republican to Democratic control. The Associated Press has not yet called multiple races.

Anti Federalist
11-13-2018, 11:22 AM
Any update on the senate? From what I'm seeing the dems did win.

Yah, they got the House, Senate and Executive Council, which means they can override a governor's veto.

In normal times, I wouldn't worry too much, a NH democrat is not a CA or NY or MA democrat.

But with this current mob of Bolsheviks, there's no telling.

One of my reps that sneaked in on special election a year ago is now, seemingly, firmly planted in that seat.

She's a dedicated gun banner and pussy protester.

I'd just as soon have seen see Hillary appointed, then the woemen and diversity would not have been so wound up, I'm not at all sure all the heat Trump generates is worth it.

Swordsmyth
11-13-2018, 03:22 PM
Yah, they got the House, Senate and Executive Council, which means they can override a governor's veto.

In normal times, I wouldn't worry too much, a NH democrat is not a CA or NY or MA democrat.

But with this current mob of Bolsheviks, there's no telling.

One of my reps that sneaked in on special election a year ago is now, seemingly, firmly planted in that seat.

She's a dedicated gun banner and pussy protester.

I'd just as soon have seen see Hillary appointed, then the woemen and diversity would not have been so wound up, I'm not at all sure all the heat Trump generates is worth it.
We can die slowly or or we can make an effort to turn things around, the third alternative would be to vote in the craziest tyrants we can find in the hope that we can pull off a longshot and not only start a revolution but win with them in control of the military and police.