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enhanced_deficit
11-04-2018, 10:58 AM
Has so called 'alt-Right' or Far-Right turned anti-MAGA?
Or various anti-MAGA tweets/reweets (https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/robert-bowers-politics-trump-republican-democrat/) from GAB making news headlines in past few days do not reflect views of Alt-Right in general and are isolated cases?

ThePaleoLibertarian
11-04-2018, 08:07 PM
The alt-right has always used Trump mostly as a rallying point, as opposed to being dyed-in-the-wool supporters. If you actually listen to speeches and interviews Richard Spencer gave, his support for Trump in the first place becomes nonsensical, given his goals and ideals.

Working Poor
11-04-2018, 08:23 PM
Is the alt-right for or against making pot legal?

enhanced_deficit
11-04-2018, 08:31 PM
Probably for it, if I have to guess :)

Good point TPL, "MAGA Coalition" of convenience seems quite unusual and serious ideological contradictions emerge when one starts looking below the surface.

Perhaps through strategic ambiguity and clever double-speak marketing, Trump so far has been able to build an impressive coalition of wildly different ideologies. Question is how lasting would it be and its impact.


Edit to add related comments from other discussion:

22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates
Survey was conducted in the wake of deadly violence which ravaged Charlottesville
Tuesday 22 August 2017
Nine per cent of Americans say holding neo-Nazi or white supremacist views is acceptable, according to a new poll.
The Washington Post ABC poll (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-shows-strong-disapproval-of-how-trump-responded-to-charlottesville-violence/2017/08/21/4e5c585c-868b-11e7-a94f-3139abce39f5_story.html?utm_term=.d519c2afa56b) was carried out in the wake of the deadly racially-charged violence which erupted at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville earlier this month. If extrapolated to the entire US population, nine per cent would equate to 22 million people.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7907091.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-neo-nazi-support-american-public-charlottesville-white-supremacists-kkk-far-right-poll-a7907091.html)

Polls can be ofcourse manipulated/exaggerated by media. However Far Right Nationalist movement no longer seems to be a tiny fringe.

The "alt-right" term used above can be misleading, is somewhat stigmatized/loaded and often used by media in differing contexts. But between so called "moderate Republicans" and "Far Right", there is probably significant size of conservative base that will play a critical role in elections.

Here is another example of what probably would be called a subset of 'Hard Right' conservatives segment:

Conservative leader on Trump: 'He's a fraud and has betrayed us twice now' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?519979-Conservative-leader-on-Trump-He-s-a-fraud-and-has-betrayed-us-twice-now&)

'Gun-grabber-in-chief': Conservatives turn on Trump as threat to confiscate guns prompts Second Amendment-related outrage
Thursday 1 March 2018
Donald Trump has sparked fury among gun owners and conservatives after repeatedly backing proposals to tighten gun control laws.


But in this heated atmosphere, probably few would stay home and much greater segment will fall under "he's better than Hillary" column.

Nonetheless, there are signs of divisions/cracks in MAGA Coalition , even GOP mainstream leadership declined to join Trump when visiting PA in the aftermath of PA shooting past week.


On second thought, a better title for this discussion would have been, "Signs of serious divisions within MAGA Coalition?".




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Grandmastersexsay
11-05-2018, 07:43 AM
22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates

Nine per cent of Americans say holding neo-Nazi or white supremacist views is acceptable, according to a new poll.


So 6.8%, not 9%, say it's ok to have racist or prejudice views, which doesn't mean they support people acting on those prejudices. That number should be much much higher. It's ok to believe whatever you want as long as it does not hamper the rights of others. Our country was built on this principle. The thought police have been very successful.