Democrat Mail Bomb Suspect In Custody

[angelatc]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/explosive-device-maxine-waters-la-similar-obama-clinton/story?id=58737042

Florida lol.


A suspect has been taken into custody in the possible mail bombing plot, the Department of Justice said. --Sen. Cory Booker and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper are the latest high-profile figures to be targeted, sources said.

--The shops and restaurants at the Time Warner Center in New York, the same complex that houses CNN, were briefly evacuated Thursday night after a false alarm over unattended packages inside the mall, police said.

--Federal investigators chasing leads pointing them to South Florida as a suspected origin of some of the 10 mail bombs sent to prominent Democrats and other public figures, sources said.

[Danke]

That’s a relief.

[Valli6]

No details, beyond sex and age.

...The man, who officials described as in his 50s, is currently in custody, a Department of Justice spokeswoman tweeted Friday morning... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspicious-package-addressed-sen-cory-booker-found-florida-n924776
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[AuH20]

I wonder what MK Ultra nut that they have conjured up this time?

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[AuH20]

Why cover it up?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqcaW-uWkAA6rVC.jpg:large

[Valli6]

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[AuH20]

Such a clean looking, new van with a collection of organized MAGA stickers.

[kahless]

Such a clean looking, new van with a collection of organized MAGA stickers.

Looks staged.

[Brian4Liberty]

No details, beyond sex and age.

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I must have heard 20 times already that the suspect is “white”.

Have also heard that he was known by authorities to make terrorist threats. The stereotypical “usual suspect”.

[AuH20]

Looks staged.

It could be a Bernie supporter trying to be a martyr. Or a brainwashed Fed stooge.

[AuH20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqcdGMEWsAICOPq.jpg

[AuH20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqcdGMGXcAAXFL6.jpg

[kahless]

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1540569101632.jpg

Come on now, driving around with targets on the heads of these people. Why not just write I am a terrorist on the side of the van.

Are you sure these are real? I am really having a hard time believing this is real and not all a setup or are prank pics.

[AuH20]

What's with the bullseyes on the faces of the prominent libs? Really?!?!??

[goldenequity]

https://i.servimg.com/u/f33/19/91/34/17/bomber10.jpg
https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1055850908096102401


(he's no victim. he's white. i gnu it. ha!)

[AuH20]

https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/cesar-sayoc/

[CaptUSA]

Looks staged.

Do you guys really believe this isn't possible? There are lots of kooks out there.

I'm always for questioning the official story, but I usually don't reach conclusions that fast.

[AuH20]

Do you guys really believe this isn't possible? There are lots of kooks out there.

I'm always for questioning the official story, but I usually don't reach conclusions that fast.

Of course, it's possible. But it's not likely. The timing is way off. 11 days from the midterms?

[AuH20]

One think I noticed. Labels look fairly new. Not faded by UV. These labels were applied relatively recently.

[kahless]

Do you guys really believe this isn't possible? There are lots of kooks out there.

I'm always for questioning the official story, but I usually don't reach conclusions that fast.

I am not saying it isn't real but it does look staged. The timing of it, a newer looking van perfectly plastered with pro-Trump stickers and targets on the oppositions heads. Seems all too convenient.

[CaptUSA]

I am not saying it isn't real but it does look staged. The timing of it, a newer looking van perfectly plastered with pro-Trump stickers and targets on the oppositions heads. Seems all too convenient.

Sure, I get it. Skepticism is ALWAYS warranted. Especially, when dealing with gubmint. Just make sure to apply the skepticism equally and try not to reach conclusions is all.

[AuH20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dqcn7VIX4AAHknK.jpg:large

[angelatc]

All we can do is wait and see. The FBI arrested Richard Jewel for the Atlanta Olympics bombings, too.

[acptulsa]

Such a clean looking, new van with a collection of organized MAGA stickers.


I am not saying it isn't real but it does look staged. The timing of it, a newer looking van perfectly plastered with pro-Trump stickers and targets on the oppositions heads. Seems all too convenient.

Yo. Shills. Pretending the Dodge Tradesman hasn't been out of production for fifteen years isn't distracting anyone from the fact that Cesar Sayoc is clearly a Hispanic name.

Foolish tools. You didn't succeed in distracting us from the fact that the "white" night club shooter was Hispanic, either.

It's just funny that you two parade around pretending to be White Supremacists, but don't even blink at "white men" named Jesus and Cesar. Not very good cover, shills.

[Valli6]

CESAR ALTIERI SAYOC arrested for "GRAND THEFT,300 L/5,000" - 11/28/2013
Also felony battery
https://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Broward-County-FL/Cesar-Sayoc.74096359.html

(what does "300 L/5,000" mean?)

Agent and manger for 'Native American Catering & Vending'?

NATIVE AMERICAN CATERING & VENDING LLC Principals
Cesar Altieri Sayoc
Manager Sayoc Cesar Altieri
Address 500 S FEDERAL HIGHWAY #574, HALLANDALE BEACH, FL, 33009
https://florida.intercreditreport.com/company/native-american-catering-vending-llc-l16000182496

[Brian4Liberty]

Yo. Shills. Pretending the Dodge Tradesman hasn't been out of production for fifteen years isn't distracting anyone from the fact that Cesar Sayoc is clearly a Hispanic name.

“I don’t care how many dago, guinea, wop, greaseball, goombas come out of the woodwork..my kraut-mic friend.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM5bfWrkdRo

[Zippyjuan]

His last name is most common in the Philippines. https://forebears.io/surnames/sayoc

[acptulsa]

His last name is most common in the Philippines. https://forebears.io/surnames/sayoc

Yeah, he clearly doesn't fit the mold CNN is trying to stuff him into. But now that the shills have failed to get us questioning the official narrative for all the wrong reasons--now that people will find better reasons to question the fake news than some 15+-year-old van "looks new"--they probably won't be back to discuss it in this thread.

After all, their job is to find ways to make RPF and the people who use it look foolish.

[jmdrake]

His last name is most common in the Philippines. https://forebears.io/surnames/sayoc

You are right. Sayoc Kali (from the Philippines) is the fighting style used in the Tommy Lee Jones movie "The Hunted."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSKCIY7TmSA

Also Caesar as a name is common in Latin culture. (Caesar Chavez).

[enhanced_deficit]

Early reports can be foggy, but this report suggests that suspected terrorist is a Republican. Report also said his "Trumpmobile" van is White.

Suspect in U.S. Mail Bomb Case Identified as Republican With Criminal History

Official names suspect as Cesar Sayoc and says more arrests may follow after at least a dozen bombs sent to top Democrats and other critics of the U.S. president

Oct 26, 2018 7:12 PM

The man suspected of sending at least a dozen parcel bombs to high-profile critics of U.S. President Donald Trump is a 56-year-old registered Republican in Florida with a lengthy criminal history.
Public records showed Cesar Sayoc has been arrested numerous times over the years, including one case in which he was accused of threatening to use a bomb.
Sayoc was taken into custody on Friday morning outside an auto parts store in Plantation, Florida, federal authorities said.
Sayoc's white van, which was seized by authorities, had numerous stickers showing President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence, as well as a "CNN SUCKS" sign, according to a screenshot posted on Twitter by a CNN reporter.


Cesar Sayoc, Mail Bombing Suspect, Found an Identity in Political Rage and Resentmenthttps://static01.********/images/2018/10/28/us/28floridaman4/28floridaman4-articleLarge-v2.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/27/us/cesar-altieri-sayoc-bomber.html

[jmdrake]

Do you guys really believe this isn't possible? There are lots of kooks out there.

I'm always for questioning the official story, but I usually don't reach conclusions that fast.

A Spanish man driving around in a pro Trump van with pictures of prominent democrats with targets on their had drops off bombs at their offices. Yep. Seems legit.

Edit: On second thought he's from Florida. He could be a nutso anti-Castro Cuban.

[CaptUSA]

A Spanish man driving around in a pro Trump van with pictures of prominent democrats with targets on their had drops off bombs at their offices. Yep. Seems legit.

Edit: On second thought he's from Florida. He could be a nutso anti-Castro Cuban.

I've seen stranger things. Just saying to keep an open mind - seems like many in here have a tendency to glom onto a conspiracy as a default response. Skepticism is good if it's applied both ways.

[kahless]

A Spanish man driving around in a pro Trump van with pictures of prominent democrats with targets on their had drops off bombs at their offices. Yep. Seems legit.


Also, bombs not designed to be real bombs and in spite of all this we are supposed to believe some Trump supporter did all this to help Republicans. This despite it has always been obvious to Republicans that such an event would be used by the media to hurt Republicans in November.

It is also not as if this all happened in isolation. Just look at the ridiculous history. The media still pumping Russia collusion, piss gate and Kavanaugh as a gang rapist. Such fake news it is laughable. The government and the news media lost what little credibility they had so who would not question it and this is coming from someone who has not been much of a conspiracy theorist here.

[RJB]

At times like these, I make no predictions. Those are usually based on wishful thinking. Instead I will wait for the info to come out (from my favorite biased news source, of course.)

[Valli6]

It's being reported that he's "native american'. He claims to be member of seminole tribe.
One of the signs plastered on the van says Native Americans for Trump.

Trump-supporting, bodybuilding, Native American Florida strip-club worker is revealed as the 'MAGAbomber' who 'sent suspicious packages to 12 liberals'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6321331/Suspected-mail-bomber-identified-Cesar-Altier-Sayoc.html

There are photos of him in MAGA hat, and at rally(s).

[phill4paul]

I'd like to know his previous, to 2016, political affiliation. Tough to find out without knowing his date of birth which is a bit muddied as reports say he is either 54 or 56.

ETA: 3/17/1962

No voting record in New Jersey.

Against the law to look up his information from Palm Beach County on government site.

[Swordsmyth]

Yo. Shills. Pretending the Dodge Tradesman hasn't been out of production for fifteen years isn't distracting anyone from the fact that Cesar Sayoc is clearly a Hispanic name.

Foolish tools. You didn't succeed in distracting us from the fact that the "white" night club shooter was Hispanic, either.

It's just funny that you two parade around pretending to be White Supremacists, but don't even blink at "white men" named Jesus and Cesar. Not very good cover, shills.
So the racist has to bring race into this and accuse others who didn't of racism.

Why am I not surprised?

[AuH20]

Broward County again?

[tommyrp12]

Parents Catch FBI in Plot to Force Mentally Ill Son to Be a Right Wing Terrorist (https://www.activistpost.com/2017/08/parents-catch-fbi-plot-force-mentally-ill-son-right-wing-terrorist.html)

https://www.activistpost.com/2017/08/parents-catch-fbi-plot-force-mentally-ill-son-right-wing-terrorist.html

[acptulsa]

So the racist has to bring race into this and accuse others who didn't of racism.

Why am I not surprised?

I didn't bring race into it. But, of course, you never miss a chance to point fingers away from your guilty self. So I'm sure no one is surprised you're in this thread, though you have absolutely nothing to contribute but scurrilous, spurious accusations.

Funny that he's being labeled a Seminole when there was not one single Sayoc in the Dawes Rolls for all the Five Civilized Tribes.

[Swordsmyth]

I didn't bring race into it.
LOL

[acptulsa]

LOL

Yo. Shill. You're trying to give the MSM cover, even as you pretend not to like them. I did not bring race into it. The MSM did, as usual.

Everyone can see this. How stupid do you look trying to put the blame on me to cover their fat asses?

[Swordsmyth]

Yo. Shill. You're trying to give the MSM cover, even as you pretend not to like them. I did not bring race into it. The MSM did, as usual.

Everyone can see this. How stupid do you look trying to put the blame on me to cover their fat asses?
Nobody here paid any attention to the MSM race baiting but you just had to follow their agenda and insist that race was important in this story.

Your antics get more pathetic all the time.

[acptulsa]

Nobody here paid any attention to the MSM race baiting but you just had to follow their agenda and insist that race was important in this story.

Your antics get more pathetic all the time.

No, you shills figure the way to show people the MSM fake news shenanigans is to ignore that this person is being labeled a Seminole despite not looking like one or wearing a name any Seminole has ever worn, obviously and falsely deflecting attention from his actual heritage and onto a minority group which votes Republican too often to have "protected status". You shills figure the way to discredit the MSM is to wander around commenting that a van demonstrably at least fifteen years old "looks too new".

[Swordsmyth]

No, you shills figure the way to show people the MSM fake news shenanigans is to ignore that this person is being labeled a Seminole despite not looking like one or wearing a name any Seminole has ever worn, obviously and falsely deflecting attention from his actual heritage and onto a minority group which votes Republican too often to have "protected status". You shills figure the way to discredit the MSM is to wander around commenting that a van demonstrably at least fifteen years old "looks too new".
So the best way to defeat the MSM's race baiting is to get sucked into a debate about race?

LOL

[devil21]

I know it won't be a shock to anyone but I'm going with more deep state problem-reaction-solution games. They often use people with criminal records as patsies for events intended to direct the sheep. Also interesting that this and the migrant thing is taking up a lot of air time while stock markets start reversing...

[kahless]

Nobody here paid any attention to the MSM race baiting but you just had to follow their agenda and insist that race was important in this story.

Your antics get more pathetic all the time.

Pay the NPC no mind, it is all part of his programming, funded and coded by the Soro's Foundation. I am surprised the bot is still allowed to post here despite the number of people whom have pointed it out to the mods over the years.

[dannno]

His last name is most common in the Philippines. https://forebears.io/surnames/sayoc
..

On his LinkedIn page, (https://www.linkedin.com/in/cesar-altieri-45424988) Sayoc says that his grandfather, Col. Baltazar Zook Sayoc, was a martial arts practitioner who developed his own style of fighting, Sayoc Kali. Sayoc says that style was used to fight the Communist Party of the Philippines.

[RJB]

Is this where some of your guys get an adrenaline fix? Do you think to yourself, "I am bored. I will go to RPFs and fight with an old nemesis over speculation that neither can prove or disprove."

[Swordsmyth]

The Daily Mail and other outlets (https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/26/politics/suspicious-packages-arrest/index.html) have reported the suspected package bomber as being named Cesar Altier Sayoc, but his Facebook page says, Cesar Altieri Randazzo.
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screen-Shot-2018-10-26-at-12.05.19-PM.png (https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screen-Shot-2018-10-26-at-12.05.19-PM.png)
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screen-Shot-2018-10-26-at-11.49.15-AM.png (https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screen-Shot-2018-10-26-at-11.49.15-AM.png)
Also, in a screenshot taken from a video he posted to Facebook before his page was taken down, the local news identified him as Ceaser Uyoc.
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screen-Shot-2018-10-26-at-12.15.21-PM.png (https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screen-Shot-2018-10-26-at-12.15.21-PM.png)


More at: https://www.infowars.com/multiple-identities-three-different-names-for-bomb-suspect/

[Brian4Liberty]

It's being reported that he's "native american'. He claims to be member of seminole tribe.
One of the signs plastered on the van says Native Americans for Trump.


There are photos of him in MAGA hat, and at rally(s).

So he’s related to Elizabeth Warren? The plot thickens! ;) :D

[thoughtomator]

Previously known to FBI, has a childhood friend in CIA, van covered in stickers yet none faded at all in the Florida sun, long rap sheet including felonies yet registered to vote... yeah, I'd say skepticism is in order here. Looks like a patsy.

Watch them appoint a public defender and it's the same person they assigned to Tsarnev.

[Brian4Liberty]

Luckily for America, Google, Facebook and Twitter will ensure that no fake news reaches the tender eyes or ears of the proles. The official story will be the only story from now on.

[Brian4Liberty]

It would be interesting to look at his Twitter accounts...

https://mobile.twitter.com/hardrock2016
https://mobile.twitter.com/hardrockintlent

[thoughtomator]

It would be interesting to look at his Twitter accounts...

https://mobile.twitter.com/hardrock2016
https://mobile.twitter.com/hardrockintlent

I looked at those hours ago. They are clearly automated and not human. Blatant "tell" is that the person posted on two separate social media accounts for most of a year with ZERO interaction from anyone else. No comments. No likes. No retweets.

Who would use social media after getting zero interaction for months?

[eleganz]

Fishy all around.

Main point is, if he really was a Republican (actually was registered dem prior to his 2016 flip) and loved Trump as portrayed, he wouldn't be sending these fake bombs right before the election.

And right as early voting begins? Who the hell is falling for this crap?

[phill4paul]

Fishy all around.

Main point is, if he really was a Republican (actually was registered dem prior to his 2016 flip) and loved Trump as portrayed, he wouldn't be sending these fake bombs right before the election.

I've tried to look at voting records for confirmation of this. Where did you get this information.

[Aratus]

Funny that he's being labeled a Seminole when there was not one single Sayoc in the Dawes Rolls for all the Five Civilized Tribes.

Is this an alias?
Has he an illegal
or criminal identity?

[Aratus]

The Daily Mail and other outlets (https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/26/politics/suspicious-packages-arrest/index.html) have reported the suspected package bomber as being named Cesar Altier Sayoc, but his Facebook page says, Cesar Altieri Randazzo.
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screen-Shot-2018-10-26-at-12.05.19-PM.png (https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screen-Shot-2018-10-26-at-12.05.19-PM.png)
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screen-Shot-2018-10-26-at-11.49.15-AM.png (https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screen-Shot-2018-10-26-at-11.49.15-AM.png)
Also, in a screenshot taken from a video he posted to Facebook before his page was taken down, the local news identified him as Ceaser Uyoc.
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screen-Shot-2018-10-26-at-12.15.21-PM.png (https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screen-Shot-2018-10-26-at-12.15.21-PM.png)


More at: https://www.infowars.com/multiple-identities-three-different-names-for-bomb-suspect/

wow

[devil21]

I've tried to look at voting records for confirmation of this. Where did you get this information.

https://registration.elections.myflorida.com/en/CheckVoterStatus/Index

If you have the required info, of course.

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Plantation, Florida. LOL. Those funny fellas with their inside jokes snickering at the common folk that believe this stuff.

[phill4paul]

https://registration.elections.myflorida.com/en/CheckVoterStatus/Index

If you have the required info, of course.

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Plantation, Florida. LOL. Those funny fellas with their inside jokes snickering at the common folk that believe this stuff.

The required info is easy. Name and date of birth. I've already been there. And this would be for Palm Beach, prior to the 2016 Broward County that I'd like to know. I've already check New Jersey and there was no record.

However I pay attention to the details before I check the box....


This website is intended for use by a registered voter to determine his or her voter registration and voting status. Access or attempted access by someone other than the voter to his or her own information that is exempt from public disclosure may subject the user to criminal prosecution or civil liability. For more information, visit our Voter Registration information webpage.

Feel free to give it a try if you wish.

Name: Cesar Altieri Sayoc Date of Birth: 3/17/1962

That's all you need.

[angelatc]

I've seen stranger things. Just saying to keep an open mind - seems like many in here have a tendency to glom onto a conspiracy as a default response. Skepticism is good if it's applied both ways.

My two cents is that his van is far too garish to be the product of a false flag. A single Trump sticker would make sense. This draws far too much attention to stay under the radar. Last thing a stealth operative wants is lots of attention.

[thoughtomator]

My two cents is that his van is far too garish to be the product of a false flag. A single Trump sticker would make sense. This draws far too much attention to stay under the radar. Last thing a stealth operative wants is lots of attention.

It gives every reason to suspect the van was either created for this hoax, or the patsy chosen for having such van. The whole point from the very start was to blame Trump, notice that that part started the very moment the story hit the wires.

Just like the Blasey-Ford story... lurid details on the parts necessary to accuse the target... but none of the supporting details necessary to paint a full picture.

Right now at this time there is zero public evidence to connect Sayoc (or whatever his name really is) to the packages. He was also previously known not only to FBI but to CIA as well.

[kahless]

My two cents is that his van is far too garish to be the product of a false flag. A single Trump sticker would make sense. This draws far too much attention to stay under the radar. Last thing a stealth operative wants is lots of attention.

I may have believed that prior to 2016. Since then we have had far out made up stories like Trump having hookers urinate on him in Russia and being blackmailed by Putin over it, Kavanaugh being a serial gang rapist and much more.

That is not to say it is not him and he is just some bat shit crazy guy. It is all just very suspect.

[Zippyjuan]

It gives every reason to suspect the van was either created for this hoax, or the patsy chosen for having such van. The whole point from the very start was to blame Trump, notice that that part started the very moment the story hit the wires.

Just like the Blasey-Ford story... lurid details on the parts necessary to accuse the target... but none of the supporting details necessary to paint a full picture.

Right now at this time there is zero public evidence to connect Sayoc (or whatever his name really is) to the packages. He was also previously known not only to FBI but to CIA as well.

NBC says he was identified from fingerprints. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-they-caught-him-fingerprint-led-authorities-mail-bomb-suspect-n924966


How they caught him: Fingerprint led authorities to mail bomb suspect

Authorities racing to find a suspect in the investigation into more than a dozen threatening packages sent to prominent Trump opponents got their break from a small but key clue: a single fingerprint.

The fingerprint was on one of the envelopes bearing explosives that had been sent to California Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters, FBI Director Christopher Wray said at a press conference on Friday, hours after law enforcement announced they had detained Cesar Sayoc, 56, an Aventura, Florida, man who had been arrested before. He is now being held at a federal detention center in downtown Miami.




Regardless, his history of run-ins with the law meant he was in law enforcement's database — and when an initial lab analysis of the suspicious packages turned up a fingerprint on the parcel destined for Waters, investigators were able to confirm it was a match.

They are testing some DNA as well.


In addition to the fingerprint, Sayoc possibly left DNA on "a sample collected from a piece of the IED inside [Maxine] Waters package" and "from a piece of the IED inside the Obama" package, according to the criminal complaint written by FBI Special Agent David Brown.

The samples can be connected to Sayaoc through DNA collected from him from an earlier arrest in Florida, officials said.


The discovery was further bolstered by other evidence, according to court documents filed in the case, which say misspellings on the addresses of the packages were consistent with misspellings on Sayoc's Twitter account.

[dannno]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dqcn7VIX4AAHknK.jpg:large


https://i.servimg.com/u/f33/19/91/34/17/bomber10.jpg


: /

[thoughtomator]

zippybrain - try a news source that wasn't JUST caught red-handed withholding exculpatory evidence in the Kavanaugh case.

Seriously, if everything traces to the credibility of known partisan propaganda outlets, that's extremely strong evidence to support the charge of a hoax.

[phill4paul]

NBC says he was identified from fingerprints. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-they-caught-him-fingerprint-led-authorities-mail-bomb-suspect-n924966





They are testing some DNA as well.

NBC journalistic integrity?


Nolte: NBC News Hid Information that Would Have Cleared Kavanaugh of Avenatti Rape Allegations

Well, unbeknownst to us, NBC interviewed this anonymous witness on September 30, and she recanted!

But only now is NBC News bothering to report this bombshell:

Referring to Kavanaugh spiking the punch, “I didn’t ever think it was Brett,” the woman said to reporters in a phone interview arranged by Avenatti on Sept. 30 after repeated requests to speak with other witnesses who might corroborate Swetnick’s claims.

…

When asked in the phone interview if she ever witnessed Kavanaugh act inappropriately towards girls, the woman replied, “no.”

Wait, it gets worse…

On October 3, NBC News again spoke to this woman, and this time, she all but accused Avenatti of fabricating her statement:

[R]eached by phone independently from Avenatti on Oct. 3, the woman said she only “skimmed” the declaration. After reviewing the statement, she wrote in a text on Oct. 4 to NBC News: “It is incorrect that I saw Brett spike the punch. I didn’t see anyone spike the punch…I was very clear with Michael Avenatti from day one.”

When pressed about abusive behavior towards girls, she wrote in a text: “I would not ever allow anyone to be abusive in my presence. Male or female.”

And now, we come to the grand conclusion…

When asked about the total contradiction between his client’s sworn statement and what she told NBC, after it no longer matters, NBC now informs us, “At one point, in an apparent effort to thwart the reporting process, [Avenatti] added in the phone call, “How about this, on background, it’s not the same woman. What are you going to do with that?”

So Avenatti’s witness, the woman he brought forward to bolster Swetnick’s serial rape claim, totally recanted to NBC News, and NBC News hid this news until now.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018/10/26/nolte-nbc-news-hid-info-wouldve-cleared-kavanaugh-avenatti-rape-allegations/?fbclid=IwAR116rm7YA-cLtClzB3NKpjYAZ3P6lV62x0IF7mWpe-QcGjuhNWwDR-fmnM


Lol, NBC.

[Zippyjuan]

My two cents is that his van is far too garish to be the product of a false flag. A single Trump sticker would make sense. This draws far too much attention to stay under the radar. Last thing a stealth operative wants is lots of attention.

You would have to be crazy to cover your car with that many stickers for one candidate.

https://2012patriot.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/rp12-jeep.jpg?w=570

http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com/images/ronpaulstickercar.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xRFNBWST25E/SWMOhqRMhJI/AAAAAAAACsg/IBsl0JB3090/s400/ron+paul+art+car.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xZ1fXVJ5ABo/Tq83j1vA0qI/AAAAAAAAABw/Uaj35_HcaqU/s1600/IMAG0028.jpg

https://i1.wp.com/trent.photo/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/IMG_5834.jpg?w=596&h=596&crop=1&ssl=1

[Zippyjuan]

NBC journalistic integrity?



https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018/10/26/nolte-nbc-news-hid-info-wouldve-cleared-kavanaugh-avenatti-rape-allegations/?fbclid=IwAR116rm7YA-cLtClzB3NKpjYAZ3P6lV62x0IF7mWpe-QcGjuhNWwDR-fmnM


Lol, NBC.

Other media outlets reporting the same thing if you don't like that source. Breitbart is heavily biased.

[phill4paul]

Other media outlets reporting the same thing if you don't like that source. Breitbart is heavily biased.

So are "other" media outlets. But, the Breitbart article proves, as in direct NBC admittance, that NBC surely is. So take what NBC "reports" as fact if you wish. I and others will just call their bullshit and yours for linking them as some kind of journalistic source that actually "investigate and reports."

[thoughtomator]

Other media outlets reporting the same thing if you don't like that source. Breitbart is heavily biased.

Sorry, if it's from ANY of the sources that collude together on Journ-o-list 2.0, or its equivalents, or who have been caught red-handed colluding with the Democratic Party to push propaganda in the past, then it's not "other" media. It's the same media. Same exact point of view, same exact info given, same exact narrative... it's one organization, no matter how many names it goes by.

[Zippyjuan]

Sorry, if it's from ANY of the sources that collude together on Journ-o-list 2.0, or its equivalents, or who have been caught red-handed colluding with the Democratic Party to push propaganda in the past, then it's not "other" media. It's the same media. Same exact point of view, same exact info given, same exact narrative... it's one organization, no matter how many names it goes by.

What "unbiased" media sources do you get your news from?

We get a lot of Russia Today fans here (another propaganda outlet). They reported the same thing. But media are all the same.

https://www.rt.com/usa/442393-doj-identifies-mail-bomb-suspect/


The FBI was able to identify the suspect based on a latent fingerprint from a package sent to Rep. Maxine Waters (D-California) and intercepted in the congressional mail facility near Washington, DC. Sayoc’s identification was confirmed by DNA that was found on one of the packages, which matched the samples on file from the Florida man’s earlier brushes with the law, Wray added.

[Danke]

You would have to be crazy to cover your car with that many stickers for one candidate.

https://2012patriot.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/rp12-jeep.jpg?w=570

http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com/images/ronpaulstickercar.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xRFNBWST25E/SWMOhqRMhJI/AAAAAAAACsg/IBsl0JB3090/s400/ron+paul+art+car.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xZ1fXVJ5ABo/Tq83j1vA0qI/AAAAAAAAABw/Uaj35_HcaqU/s1600/IMAG0028.jpg

https://i1.wp.com/trent.photo/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/IMG_5834.jpg?w=596&h=596&crop=1&ssl=1



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b7fyHLJRfw

[Zippyjuan]

CESAR ALTIERI SAYOC arrested for "GRAND THEFT,300 L/5,000" - 11/28/2013
Also felony battery
https://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Broward-County-FL/Cesar-Sayoc.74096359.html

(what does "300 L/5,000" mean?)

Agent and manger for 'Native American Catering & Vending'?

NATIVE AMERICAN CATERING & VENDING LLC Principals
Cesar Altieri Sayoc
Manager Sayoc Cesar Altieri
Address 500 S FEDERAL HIGHWAY #574, HALLANDALE BEACH, FL, 33009
https://florida.intercreditreport.com/company/native-american-catering-vending-llc-l16000182496

I think it is "Grand Theft Third Degree" which is value of at least $300 (and less than $20,000). Penalty is fine up to $5000 or five years in jail. Second degree Grand Theft is $20k to $100k. http://www.husseinandwebber.com/crimes/theft-fraud/grand-theft/

[oyarde]

A Spanish man driving around in a pro Trump van with pictures of prominent democrats with targets on their had drops off bombs at their offices. Yep. Seems legit.

Edit: On second thought he's from Florida. He could be a nutso anti-Castro Cuban.

Rumors are he was last arrested in Minnesota .

[kahless]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b7fyHLJRfw

The Corvette looks professionally done and pretty awesome. If someone has an extra vehicle and stickers up a car for an event then fine. A few stickers fine.

Someone that does this to their primary vehicle to the extreme, people see it and think the person is crazy or an asshole. It does not win any votes since normal people look at the person that does this and think their freaking insane.

[Zippyjuan]

Accused bomber at Trump rallies. This from 2017 in Melbourne Florida. Looks like some of the decorations on his truck.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx4es-HIC_s

[Danke]

The Corvette looks professionally done and pretty awesome. If someone has an extra vehicle and stickers up a car for an event then fine. A few stickers fine.

Someone that does this to their primary vehicle to the extreme, people see it and think the person is crazy or an asshole. It does not win any votes since normal people look at the person that does this and think their freaking insane.

Yeah, but also dressing up as that terrorist Guy Fawkes and driving around spinning his car in circles? That dude needs an intervention. Probably into other weird stuff, like nude body painting, etc.

[phill4paul]

Accused bomber at Trump rallies. This from 2017 in Melbourne Florida. Looks like some of the decorations on his truck.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx4es-HIC_s

How convenient.

[Danke]

How convenient.


Almost like this was all planned...

[thoughtomator]

https://f002.backblazeb2.com/file/files-gab/image/bb-5bb2ec5ac9ee2.jpeg

Pro auto painting is not related in any way to bumper sticker wallpapering. It costs a lot more money and requires specialized skills.

[Anti Globalist]

So it looks like I share a birthday with this guy.

[euphemia]

One think I noticed. Labels look fairly new. Not faded by UV. These labels were applied relatively recently.

And installed professionally. This whole thing does not pass the smell test.

[angelatc]

You would have to be crazy to cover your car with that many stickers for one candidate.


I already considered this, and it doesn't change my opinion

I didn't say he was crazy - that's all you. I said that if a vehicle was going to be used in a false flag operation, it wouldn't stand out so much. The last thing a false flag bomber would want is attention.

None of the Ron Paul fan vehicles you've pictured were accused of featuring in any false flag operations.

Speaking of attention, go away.

[Working Poor]

Is this guy charged with making bombs? If he is that seems kinda unfair.

[angelatc]

The Corvette looks professionally done and pretty awesome. If someone has an extra vehicle and stickers up a car for an event then fine. A few stickers fine.

Someone that does this to their primary vehicle to the extreme, people see it and think the person is crazy or an asshole. It does not win any votes since normal people look at the person that does this and think their freaking insane.

Be nice! He posts here, ot at least he used to.

[Swordsmyth]

I already considered this, and it doesn't change my opinion

I didn't say he was crazy - that's all you. I said that if a vehicle was going to be used in a false flag operation, it wouldn't stand out so much. The last thing a false flag bomber would want is attention.


But the entire point of this if it is a false flag is to attract attention.

[Brian4Liberty]

Is this guy charged with making bombs? If he is that seems kinda unfair.

LOL. I see what you did there... :D

[UWDude]

After all, their job is to find ways to make RPF and the people who use it look foolish.

Oh no! All those new people pouring over to this forum every day.

People who don't question are the ones who look foolish now.

It's a post wiki-leaks world. Black and white proof the DNC rigged the primaries for Hillary.
That the media was in complete collusion with Hillary.

It's not a conspiracy theory. It's not even conjectural or strongly circumstantial evidence.

Wikilieaks, was, is, and continues to be black and white proof the US government is wand was colluding against the American people, along with the mainstream media. A MASSIVE number of MASSIVE conspiracies.

Black and white.

So put your colorful hat on, and cry, Fool.

[Aratus]

And installed professionally. This whole thing does not pass the smell test.

There is Shakespeare quote for this. Let alone two Trump Twitter quotes that totally contradict each other.

[Zippyjuan]

One think I noticed. Labels look fairly new. Not faded by UV. These labels were applied relatively recently.

Some reported seeing the van for more than a year.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-ne-sayoc-van-pictures-20181026-story.html


Cypkin encountered the van regularly when he lived near the Shoppes at the Waterways in Aventura, where it was regularly parked. Cypkin believed someone could be living in the van, and finally, on the morning of New Year’s Eve 2017, he snapped a few quick pictures so he could get a better look at some of the stickers later.

“I had seen it there at least a year,” Cypkin said. “I did see someone standing at the back one time, with one of the back doors open. I didn’t make eye contact.”

Bilodeau, the Publix shopper in Oakland Park, kept an eye on Sayoc before deciding he couldn’t have a gun on him.

“He was wearing gym clothes, but, like too small,” Bilodeau said, explaining why he didn’t believe Cesar Sayoc could be armed.

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Rodriguez, who now works for Memorial Regional Hospital, likes to take pictures of strange things around his city. He hashtags them on Instagram, #Hollyweird.

On April 6, he stepped outside a 7-11 and saw the van, parked on the swale next to Hollywood Boulevard, in front of the Papa John’s. Several readers said they have seen the van delivering pizza.

I’ve seen him off and on. You can tell he’s from around here,” Rodriguez said. “I see him at the Publix here in Hollywood all the time. He’s kind of like a fixture.”

When he saw the van on the news, being towed down the highway by the FBI, he remembered it right away.

“One of my coworkers was watching it on TV,” Rodriguez said, and like so many others, when he saw it, he thought, “I know that van!”

More sightings at link.

There is also video of him at a Florida rally in 2017 holding a sign which looks like the ones decorating the windows of the van.

[devil21]

I've seen stranger things. Just saying to keep an open mind - seems like many in here have a tendency to glom onto a conspiracy as a default response. Skepticism is good if it's applied both ways.

That is true, however deep state operations ALWAYS leave "calling cards" in the narrative, so if you know what to look for it's pretty easy to see the calling cards and identify events as deep state operations. The calling cards are there so that others "in the know" can recognize them for what they are and also to mock the sheep that don't have the knowledge (hmm...who said "My people perish for lack of knowledge?") to see what's right in front of their faces. The calling cards are left in the names of the "characters", the numbers and symbols shown in the narrative or in footage. It's ritualistic and required as part of the operations.

[Aratus]

Oh no! All those new people pouring over to this forum every day.

People who don't question are the ones who look foolish now.

It's a post wiki-leaks world. Black and white proof the DNC rigged the primaries for Hillary.
That the media was in complete collusion with Hillary.

It's not a conspiracy theory. It's not even conjectural or strongly circumstantial evidence.

Wikilieaks, was, is, and continues to be black and white proof the US government is wand was colluding against the American people, along with the mainstream media. A MASSIVE number of MASSIVE conspiracies.

Black and white.

So put your colorful hat on, and cry, Fool.

I was sorta hoping he was a boomer. I had him being a traveling salesman. Instead he is like a retired pimp who once ran an escort service while seducing sweet young things in L.A let alone he seems to have been busted for things you can legally do in the Grand Theft Auto franchise games inside 2 dimentional attempts at Virtual Reality. He looks like a guy Crockett & Tubbs would arrest on a MIAMI VICE episode. I guess the really really BIGLY big FBI swatting dragnet of FL did work... For real. Ole J.Edgar Hoover has ceased to spin in his grave. Thankfully the guy is too young to be one of Richard M. Nixon's Watergate Plumbers and/or CIA admiring Cubans! :)

[oyarde]

Some reported seeing the van for more than a year.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-ne-sayoc-van-pictures-20181026-story.html



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More sightings at link.

There is also video of him at a Florida rally in 2017 holding a sign which looks like the ones decorating the windows of the van.

Why would it be unsettling to be at the kosher market , everybody eats . I go to the deli and metzgerei and I am not jewish or german.

[AuH20]

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[devil21]

Just to make a point and then I'll stop to not derail entire thread. Here was a widely spread, by the MEDIA, photo from the Charlottesville car attack. There's two "calling cards" inserted into the picture. Can you spot them?

https://www.latimes.com/resizer/A9V7BdU5mXEe7b6VVlOCmmNst2E=/1400x0/www.trbimg.com/img-5a33dacd/turbine/la-1513347785-hx55utqd2r-snap-image

[UWDude]

I think what people are missing is the big picture:

Nobody believes the Media, and nobody believes anything that happens in Broward County.
That's where Debbie Wasserman Schultz cooked up the whole DNC rigging thing.

Hey Losers, get this through your skulls, Bernie Sanders supporters gave Trump the election.

Furthermore, the Democrats pulled so much B.S. with Kavenaugh, they seriously scared the hell out of America.
And America became suspect about everything.

They thought they had some kind of mainstream support. They had none. And the people really paying attention, those Bernie Bros the DNC tried to use as tokens to cash in (Podesta email quote), noticed how willing the Democrats were willing to throw away innocent until proven guilty.
#BelieveWomen

These witches think the nymphs and virgins don't notice how bad and evil a woman can be sometimes. The witches don't understand self-reflection. They don't understand the nymphs and virgins all harbor dirty little secrets, if not done themselves, done by women they know.

I remember, back in 2005, or so, back when saying 9/11 was staged was a ban-hammer magnet, I remember telling a forum, that they thought they were winning, but that they had already lost. I had felt it in my soul. A clear majority of the population questions 9/11, which meant boomers were no longer afraid to re-open questions about JFK. And a clear majority of Boomers question JFK.

The MSM concerted campaign has become a retroactive red-piller. It is waking people up to conspiracies they ignored, just because of how ridiculously false the media has become. The Deep State strategy is starting to erode control mechanisms on people once thought solidly brainwashed.

Trump is getting stronger. That is why he tweeted about it. If he felt this would hurt him, he wouldn't have wanted to keep the conversation going.

[AuH20]

God do I hate Qanon. Everything is bullshit.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqYtyiOWwAAmtGC.jpg:large

[Aratus]

One upshot of this is that CHRIS (Fay) WRAY keeps his day job by having the FBI look alert and with it.

[Aratus]

The arrest for WRAY is up there with the glee J.EDGAR had when his better agents hunted down
and bagged Bonnie & Clyde with that roadblock ambush that time. Now we get to see a real trial.

[Zippyjuan]

I think what people are missing is the big picture:

Nobody believes the Media, and nobody believes anything that happens in Broward County.
That's where Debbie Wasserman Schultz cooked up the whole DNC rigging thing.

Hey Losers, get this through your skulls, Bernie Sanders supporters gave Trump the election.

Furthermore, the Democrats pulled so much B.S. with Kavenaugh, they seriously scared the hell out of America.
And America became suspect about everything.

They thought they had some kind of mainstream support. They had none. And the people really paying attention, those Bernie Bros the DNC tried to use as tokens to cash in (Podesta email quote), noticed how willing the Democrats were willing to throw away innocent until proven guilty.
#BelieveWomen

These witches think the nymphs and virgins don't notice how bad and evil a woman can be sometimes. The witches don't understand self-reflection. They don't understand the nymphs and virgins all harbor dirty little secrets, if not done themselves, done by women they know.

I remember, back in 2005, or so, back when saying 9/11 was staged was a ban-hammer magnet, I remember telling a forum, that they thought they were winning, but that they had already lost. I had felt it in my soul. A clear majority of the population questions 9/11, which meant boomers were no longer afraid to re-open questions about JFK. And a clear majority of Boomers question JFK.

The MSM concerted campaign has become a retroactive red-piller. It is waking people up to conspiracies they ignored, just because of how ridiculously false the media has become. The Deep State strategy is starting to erode control mechanisms on people once thought solidly brainwashed.

Trump is getting stronger. That is why he tweeted about it. If he felt this would hurt him, he wouldn't have wanted to keep the conversation going.

He tweeted about it being a distraction and slowing his momentum.

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[Swordsmyth]

God do I hate Qanon. Everything is bull$#@!.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqYtyiOWwAAmtGC.jpg:large
That's not Q, it's one of the Anons.

Q has been silent lately.

[angelatc]

But the entire point of this if it is a false flag is to attract attention.

THe bombs attract the attention.

[Swordsmyth]

He tweeted about it being a distraction and slowing his momentum.

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Which points out who really benefits.

[PursuePeace]

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What's on the back of his head?

[Swordsmyth]

THe bombs attract the attention.
But they want to attract attention to Trump in relation to the bombs.

[Zippyjuan]

Which points out who really benefits.

He is afraid of the Mueller investigation and tweets about it all the time too. (though not as much as the election got closer).

[Aratus]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


We senior citizens remember the extensive manhunts J.Edgar
would initiate that would often produce results. Now our better
FBI agents do look as brainy if not brainier than the cast of the
tv series CRIMINAL MINDs an' thankfully he was arrested B4 a
bigly big body count. He seems to be disgruntle & is lone wolf.

[Aratus]

ROBERT MUELLER HAS HIS REPORT.
This happens next, after 11.o6.2o18!

[angelatc]

But they want to attract attention to Trump in relation to the bombs.

Sure, but you can get that with a single bumper sticker. No need to drive that rolling billboard around for a year first. It would draw attention to you too soon, as well as potentially get set on fire by the tolerant Zippys of the world if parked on the wrong place for too long. It's a van that would literallt start shit, not a vehicle to conceal an alternate agenda.

[Aratus]

That's not Q, it's one of the Anons.

Q has been silent lately.

Seriously, am curious. How can you tell?
Is Q's style that specific to the degree that
an "aping" of the same is cringe worthy?

[Swordsmyth]

He is afraid of the Mueller investigation and tweets about it all the time too. (though not as much as the election got closer).
LOL

He is not afraid of it, he is using the idiocy of it to make your side look bad.

[UWDude]

He tweeted about it being a distraction and slowing his momentum.

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LoL

You are still confused. LoL

It doesn't matter what he says about it. I just explained why he tweeted. He has tweeted like, what, 20,000 tweets now? You think this one is the one that will finally sway voters to hate him, or think he is a liar?

I am literally laughing at how you will never, ever get it. You are too academic.

And you will continue to tell me I am wrong, no matter how much reality shifts before your very eyes.

It's fuckin' hilarious.

[kahless]

Just to make a point and then I'll stop to not derail entire thread. Here was a widely spread, by the MEDIA, photo from the Charlottesville car attack. There's two "calling cards" inserted into the picture. Can you spot them?

https://www.latimes.com/resizer/A9V7BdU5mXEe7b6VVlOCmmNst2E=/1400x0/www.trbimg.com/img-5a33dacd/turbine/la-1513347785-hx55utqd2r-snap-image

I am putting words together from the signs, crap not sure, fill us in please.


That is true, however deep state operations ALWAYS leave "calling cards" in the narrative, so if you know what to look for it's pretty easy to see the calling cards and identify events as deep state operations. The calling cards are there so that others "in the know" can recognize them for what they are and also to mock the sheep that don't have the knowledge (hmm...who said "My people perish for lack of knowledge?") to see what's right in front of their faces. The calling cards are left in the names of the "characters", the numbers and symbols shown in the narrative or in footage. It's ritualistic and required as part of the operations.

I was thinking that maybe this younger new generation working the deep state are just really bad setting up these things without it being so obvious. Then again maybe when I was younger I did not notice how obvious they are.

On the hand I wonder if maybe there is something bigger planned long term from the deep state and their shill media. Believing part of that process the last few years was to condition the populace to be accustomed to outrageous conspiracies (Trump, Kavanaugh, etc) and wacky social issues, to eventually build up to something that I can't put a finger on.

[Swordsmyth]

Seriously, am curious. How can you tell?
Is Q's style that specific to the degree that
an "aping" of the same is cringe worthy?
Q's posts are marked with "tripcodes" generated by passwords that verify his identity to the board owner on 8chan like this one: Q !!mG7VJxZNCI

And they are always signed Q.

Here is an example:

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI No.369 (https://8ch.net/patriotsfight/res/62.html#369)
Oct 8 2018 22:58:37 (EST) (https://qanon.pub/#t1539057517) [Sally Yates]
Q

[Aratus]

Duckies.... Hitler had his Reichstag Fire... He then did his power play.
Stalin merely waited for Lenin to die before going after poor Trotsky.
Morph these two approaches, spin things around in a most confusing
manner, and then you have a hellzone I would not want to be alive in.

[devil21]

I am putting words together from the signs, crap not sure, fill us in please.

Numbers and symbols! The bumper sticker on the truck is a Shriners (top level freemason org) sticker. The license plate is 1111, which is 11 (means a vision) plus 11 = 22 (an action). You'll also see the "33" inserted as a calling card, which is the outcome of vision+action. Vision+Action=Outcome. What the license plate says is this is action toward the outcome. There are a couple other symbols and words, the red fist (communism) and Love. Even though that picture was everywhere during the news it was actually a photoshop!




I was thinking that maybe this younger new generation working the deep state are just really bad setting up these things without it being so obvious. Then again maybe when I was younger I did not notice how obvious they are.

On the hand I wonder if maybe there is something bigger planned long term from the deep state and their shill media. Believing part of that process the last few years was to condition the populace to be accustomed to outrageous conspiracies (Trump, Kavanaugh, etc) and wacky social issues, to eventually build up to something that I can't put a finger on.

Hmm, that would certainly be a very long con but I'm interested to hear your thoughts if you get a better grasp on it.

[Swordsmyth]

ROBERT MUELLER HAS HIS REPORT.
This happens next, after 11.o6.2o18!

If they had anything it would happen before the election.

[Zippyjuan]

If they had anything it would happen before the election.

Mueller said he would not release anything during the election period. It would not be appropriate to release a report on election meddling at a time when it could meddle with an election.

[Aratus]

Numbers and symbols! The bumper sticker on the truck is a Shriners (top level freemason org) sticker. The license plate is 1111, which is 11 (means a vision) plus 11 = 22 (an action). You'll also see the "33" inserted as a calling card, which is the outcome of vision+action. Vision+Action=Outcome. What the license plate says is this is action toward the outcome. There are a couple other symbols and words, the red fist (communism) and Love. Even though that picture was everywhere during the news it was actually a photoshop!




Hmm, that would certainly be a very long con but I'm interested to hear your thoughts if you get a better grasp on it.


On this 11/11/2018 we are at the 100 year mark of the signing of the Versailles Treaty.
We also are at the 80 year mark of the smashing of shop windows all over Nazi Germany.

[Aratus]

If 1111 hints at 11/11 keep in mind the events of the 20th Century.

[Swordsmyth]

Mueller said he would not release anything during the election period. It would not be appropriate to release a report on election meddling at a time when it could meddle with an election.
He only said that because he doesn't have anything.

[Aratus]

Or he saw the hot water that Comey got into with his classic October surprise.
Whatever he has, he's decided to wait a few weeks before letting it be public...

[AuH20]

very cozy with law enforcement. likely dirty cops.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqerCOqXgAAChAM.jpg

[dannno]

If 1111 hints at 11/11 keep in mind the events of the 20th Century.

I did DMT my first time on 11/11/11

[devil21]

On this 11/11/2018 we are at the 100 year mark of the signing of the Versailles Treaty.
We also are at the 80 year mark of the smashing of shop windows all over Nazi Germany.

Yep, also the planned meeting of Trump and Putin in Paris, iirc. Indeed, it all interconnects. Things take place on certain numerologically and astrologically important dates (and biblically important, 9/11 refers to Rev 9:11, for example). Like I said, it's ritualistic and MUST be followed as those that carry this stuff out believe that adhering to the numbers and symbols in their actions gives them power.

Just casually following the news on this bomb thing I've seen calling cards inserted that leads me to believe it is a manufactured event for a desired outcome.

[AuH20]

Who wants to bet that this guy supplied dirty cops with steroids? Factor in the Chippendale associations. This guy is tied to law enforcement in some form or another. And that county is beyond dirty.

[parocks]

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1540569101632.jpg

Come on now, driving around with targets on the heads of these people. Why not just write I am a terrorist on the side of the van.

Are you sure these are real? I am really having a hard time believing this is real and not all a setup or are prank pics.

There is a ton of fakery in the world today and it seems like they're going out of their way to make it seem really really fake. See the chans for this analysis.

[kahless]

Numbers and symbols! The bumper sticker on the truck is a Shriners (top level freemason org) sticker. The license plate is 1111, which is 11 (means a vision) plus 11 = 22 (an action). You'll also see the "33" inserted as a calling card, which is the outcome of vision+action. Vision+Action=Outcome. What the license plate says is this is action toward the outcome. There are a couple other symbols and words, the red fist (communism) and Love. Even though that picture was everywhere during the news it was actually a photoshop!

Wow, saw it and the video enough times but had not noticed. I had no idea they shopped the picture to.


Hmm, that would certainly be a very long con but I'm interested to hear your thoughts if you get a better grasp on it.

That is just the thing, I think allot of us here on RPF could tell from the 90s or later forward what candidates, issues and events they were obviously paving the way for - setting a narrative well in advance. But this seems like all new territory now. We are however dealing with a wounded animal that I believe will do anything to regain power.

[Anti Federalist]

I'll be damned...I thought sure it would have been an AntiFa kook.

Looks like it's one of our kooks. just a kook.

Oh well.

Carry on.

[Aratus]

I'll be damned...I thought sure it would have been an AntiFa kook.

Looks like it's one of our kooks.

Oh well.

Carry on.

AF... He is not truly one of us, here.
He seems to be on the political right,
but I remember that Arthur Bremer
had shadowy connections and he had
stalked Dick Nixon before he shot poor
George Wallace. The motives are murky.

[Swordsmyth]

I'll be damned...I thought sure it would have been an AntiFa kook.

Looks like it's one of our kooks.

Oh well.

Carry on.
Or he is supposed to LOOK like one of "our" kooks.

[Aratus]

If someone paid this bastard to do a hit job,
and he fails, what exactly did he think would
happen, once all those packages are mailed?
I knew he wasn't WeatherUnderground and a
tad older than I am as in very 1960s radical.

[Anti Federalist]

AF... He is not truly one of us, here.
He seems to be on the political right,
but I remember that Arthur Bremer
had shadowy connections and he had
stalked Dick Nixon before he shot poor
George Wallace. The motives are murky.


Or he is supposed to LOOK like one of "our" kooks.

Well, fair enough...a kook.

[Aratus]

Or he is supposed to LOOK like one of "our" kooks.

Yes, the charming railroad goon thuggish look of a guy who'd hero
worship a dude who was more of a dictator than Juan Peron, clearly.
He seems not to have been a Libertarian or a civil libertarian. If the
interest in Joe Arpaio's senate run sorta seyz what his politics is. Or
if all is a put-on, it's clever. Damn clever. I think he did not post on
the RPfs at all. He is not one of us. Even the worst of us he is not.

[devil21]

Wow, saw it and the video enough times but had not noticed. I had no idea they shopped the picture to.

Compare that picture to the video and you'll now quickly see that the picture was fake. Most of what we see in mainstream news is fake/staged/acting. It's Lucifer's world, where almost nothing is real. All the world is a stage...



That is just the thing, I think allot of us here on RPF could tell from the 90s or later forward what candidates, issues and events they were obviously paving the way for - setting a narrative well in advance. But this seems like all new territory now. We are however dealing with a wounded animal that I believe will do anything to regain power.

I'm not sure that power was ever lost. Instead, I think that time is running short, based on the requirement to keep with the number and astrological timelines, to complete the desired goal. If those "rules" are not followed then it sort-of all loses "legitimacy", for lack of a better phrase and all of it was for nothing. Hard to explain, sorry.

[kahless]

Compare that picture to the video and you'll now quickly see that the picture was fake. Most of what we see in mainstream news is fake/staged/acting. It's Lucifer's world, where almost nothing is real. All the world is a stage...

I'm not sure that power was ever lost. Instead, I think that time is running short, based on the requirement to keep with the number and astrological timelines, to complete the desired goal. If those "rules" are not followed then it sort-of all loses "legitimacy", for lack of a better phrase and all of it was for nothing. Hard to explain, sorry.

Roger.

[Swordsmyth]

Is this his own choice of a cloaking device or is he a group conformist with a short shelf life?

I'd say he was a programmed pawn being sacrificed..

[UWDude]

I did DMT my first time on 11/11/11

Very nice. A disruptor in the weave.

They had it all planned out, down to the Spirit Cooking.

Didn't see that one in their models.

Also proven in wiki-leaks... ..maybe not John Podesta and Hillary, but a lot of those Illuminati folk.

Yes, a psychic resonance is taking shape, and a future is being formed in our minds. The AI is losing, badly.
But give it time. It will start to win. Unless we realize what plane this battle has moved to. It is in the mind.
And to out-think the AI, we are going to have to invent anomalies.
Humor will be a refuge for quite some time now, especially if it specifically castigates the AI.
The incredible effects of synesthesia on the creativity of the human mind, may take it further.
The AI may never catch up.
Both it, and it's masters, constantly beat at their own games.
They are nowhere near a working model of the real world, much less the human race, yet, they think they can game them?


I'm the one gaming them.
I figured out how they worked long ago, and went to work exploiting their weaknesses.
They are all infected.

[devil21]

Wow, saw it and the video enough times but had not noticed. I had no idea they shopped the picture to.



That is just the thing, I think allot of us here on RPF could tell from the 90s or later forward what candidates, issues and events they were obviously paving the way for - setting a narrative well in advance. But this seems like all new territory now. We are however dealing with a wounded animal that I believe will do anything to regain power.

kahless makes a good point about the longer con.

Just to be clear, freemasons aren't the end-all-be-all of all events and don't own "the numbers and symbols". That org has been infiltrated and directed away from their original mission. But no matter what, when the calling cards are inserted you can bet that it's a contrived event that is meant to influence.

eta: I recall DJT's first speech at CIA HQ, which was immediately after election, where he said he would remove the two columns. CIA works for the Vatican, which has on-and-off opposed Freemasons and vice versa, historically.

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

what kind of courier agrees to deliver a package like that ?

total bullshhit

[Aratus]

You are right. Sayoc Kali (from the Philippines) is the fighting style used in the Tommy Lee Jones movie "The Hunted."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSKCIY7TmSA

Also Caesar as a name is common in Latin culture. (Caesar Chavez).

Today is a new day... I hate asking if there are more found packages.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Patsy? Maybe. If so though, why not a white guy? There were all sorts of commentators and "journalists" on Twitter giddily talking about how he was a "typical angry white guy". Then it turns out, not so much. Everything is so picture perfect, so right out of central casting except his race. The van looks like it was put together by a Hollywood studio, but in the movie, he would be white, Christian and rave about the gays and blacks. Maybe they're clever enough to take that into account, who knows.

[CaptainAmerica]

This is how a COUP is staged by democrats and the oligarch. First they must make the silent majority of americans self doubt their own vote and thoughts.....politically engineer hatred towards anyone who votes for trump...then dismantle their rebellion against socialism through means of character assassination. Now you cant vote for Trump because you must be : racist; sexist; rapist ; etc. etc. if you do. Now you must be a terrorist sympathizer too... , sorry but the shoe doesnt fit the cinderella step sister...this is a false flag , because democrats are desperate to defend their far left agenda that makes them money and keeps them in power. FAKE. FAKE FAKE FAKE.

[AZJoe]

Of course it had to happen. Straight from NBC's Mental Ward Chuck Todd - the Russians did it.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTg0ZDvUQAI92hj.jpg

[acptulsa]

Oh no! All those new people pouring over to this forum every day.

People who don't question are the ones who look foolish now.

It's a post wiki-leaks world. Black and white proof the DNC rigged the primaries for Hillary.
That the media was in complete collusion with Hillary.

It's not a conspiracy theory. It's not even conjectural or strongly circumstantial evidence.

Wikilieaks, was, is, and continues to be black and white proof the US government is wand was colluding against the American people, along with the mainstream media. A MASSIVE number of MASSIVE conspiracies.

Black and white.

So put your colorful hat on, and cry, Fool.

I see your arrogance still spills like water, informed by neither context nor comprehension. I believe if you were to actually read what you presume to criticize, instead of creating straw men out of it to attack, you'd see that I wasn't saying this was no set-up. I was saying that no one is going to get to the heart of it all by following the racist shill brigade and calling a fifteen-plus-year-old van "new".

The rest you assumed. You know, kind of like back when you were a flaming prog, and I said segregation made it easier for minorities to make a go of small businesses. You argued with me for weeks, and accused me of not knowing the history of my own hometown, and screamed about racism and issued book club challenges and generally made an ass of yourself before remembering that your professor made the same point I did about minority-owned businesses during segregation.

Do you really want to repeat all that? Or do you think this might be an appropriate time to try reading and understanding something before you go off half-cocked and criticize it blindly?

Do your own crying, fool. Cry over the fact that this goes much deeper than some silly-assed partisan gamesmanship of the sort Swordshyll wants us to believe in, therefore it's way too complex for you to comprehend.

But, of course, what better way to obfuscate an issue than to bus in loud-mouthed "former" progressives to attack what they don't understand--in other words, everything?



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+rep

Hispanics battling for Trump. Can't be. Must be Russian Hispanics.

These people will engage in any sort of recklessness to distract us from the fact that their own narrative doesn't fit their own narrative. It's like they're shoving it down our throats we're being gamed, the way the mafia left calling cards. A nudge and a wink and you better try for our good side--maybe we'll do you a favor and warn you when you go to the wrong Las Vegas concert.

[Aratus]

Mr. Chuck Todd is echoing J.Edgar Hoover's auld Cold War fears that the SOVIETs/Russians
had ample funds behind them and were trying to "turn" many average, ordinary citizens by
handing them great amounts of cash, quietly. He just went AULD COLD WARRIOR paranoid.

[kahless]

acptulsa, geez, wtf, did you forget to take this before posting this morning.
https://www.cvs.com/bizcontent/merchandising/productimages/large/5042801005.jpg

[Aratus]

Dude... I'm female. He isn't. You are being snarky.

[Aratus]

I was depressed today even before I heard about the shootings in Pittsburgh.

[acptulsa]

acptulsa, geez, wtf, did you forget to take this before posting this morning.
https://www.cvs.com/bizcontent/merchandising/productimages/large/5042801005.jpg

So what you're saying is, I defended myself successfully.

[Aratus]

.





I see your arrogance still spills like water, informed by neither context nor comprehension. I believe if you were to actually read what you presume to criticize, instead of creating straw men out of it to attack, you'd see that I wasn't saying this was no set-up. I was saying that no one is going to get to the heart of it all by following the racist shill brigade and calling a fifteen-plus-year-old van "new".

The rest you assumed. You know, kind of like back when you were a flaming prog, and I said segregation made it easier for minorities to make a go of small businesses. You argued with me for weeks, and accused me of not knowing the history of my own hometown, and screamed about racism and issued book club challenges and generally made an ass of yourself before remembering that your professor made the same point I did about minority-owned businesses during segregation.

Do you really want to repeat all that? Or do you think this might be an appropriate time to try reading and understanding something before you go off half-cocked and criticize it blindly?

Do your own crying, fool. Cry over the fact that this goes much deeper than some silly-assed partisan gamesmanship of the sort Swordshyll wants us to believe in, therefore it's way too complex for you to comprehend.

But, of course, what better way to obfuscate an issue than to bus in loud-mouthed "former" progressives to attack what they don't understand--in other words, everything?



+rep

Hispanics battling for Trump. Can't be. Must be Russian Hispanics.

These people will engage in any sort of recklessness to distract us from the fact that their own narrative doesn't fit their own narrative. It's like they're shoving it down our throats we're being gamed, the way the mafia left calling cards. A nudge and a wink and you better try for our good side--maybe we'll do you a favor and warn you when you go to the wrong Las Vegas concert.



.

[kahless]

So what you're saying is, I defended myself successfully.

There are ways to defend yourself without continually being an asshole to everyone you disagree with here.

[Aratus]

If there is a group behind the "mad bomber" outbreak of 15+ packages sent to prominent people,
if they were an omnipresent & quiet support system and echo chamber in his life, they may be very
difficult to track and/or uncover. The man's motivation may be twisted and complex. He was at a
Trump rally. Arthur Bremer looked like a convert when he approached George Wallace's campaign
people, they had no idea he was keeping a diary about his attempt on Richard M. Nixon's life. Poor
George Wallace was not his initial target. Trump's rhetoric has been equal to George Wallace's rants.

[acptulsa]

He isn't.

She knows that. Check her posting history. She has never attacked people by saying what they are. Why would she--she spends all her time attacking small government, anti-corporogovernment-fascism conservatives. Instead, she accuses us all of being just like her, then attacks us for that.

It is the way it has always been.

[Aratus]

There are ways to defend yourself without continually being an $#@! to everyone you disagree with here.

Kahless, let's not believe everything said in the mass media. I don't.
Let's all sit back. See what is further said. The multiple shootings in
the Pittsburgh synagogue are going to shove all the headlines about
the mad bomber to page three. This story is depressing. It is recent.

[UWDude]

You argued with me for weeks, and accused me of not knowing the history of my own hometown, and screamed about racism and issued book club challenges and generally made an ass of yourself before remembering that your professor made the same point I did about minority-owned businesses during segregation.

So funny you think yourself as some big winner from that. You think I am the one who was made to look a fool. XD I'm the one that GOT YOU to read a book, remember!? XD


LoL "People are here to make Ron Paul Forums look foolish. Blacks were better off when segregated!"

LoL!!!

[acptulsa]

So funny you think yourself as some big winner from that. You think I am the one who was made to look a fool. XD I'm the one that GOT YOU to read a book, remember!? XD

LOL

Never mind I proved I knew things about the subject the author didn't.

You stuck your foot in it. Now pull it out. Prove I had never read a book before you cajoled me into reading that one.

Your meaningless attack on me was indefensible. This attempt at deflection is laughable. Have a nice day.

[angelatc]

Oh no! All those new people pouring over to this forum every day.

People who don't question are the ones who look foolish now.

It's a post wiki-leaks world. Black and white proof the DNC rigged the primaries for Hillary.
That the media was in complete collusion with Hillary.

It's not a conspiracy theory. It's not even conjectural or strongly circumstantial evidence.

Wikilieaks, was, is, and continues to be black and white proof the US government is wand was colluding against the American people, along with the mainstream media. A MASSIVE number of MASSIVE conspiracies.

Black and white.

So put your colorful hat on, and cry, Fool.

The difference between conspiracy and fact is evidence. Wikileaks provided evidence.

[Aratus]

There is legitimacy to the idea that Hillary's people from on high rigged
the Democratic Primaries against Bernie. There is this pattern even before
Julian Assange thought he found the answers to the universe. Just sayin.

[UWDude]

LOL

Never mind I proved I knew things about the subject the author didn't.

You stuck your foot in it. Now pull it out. Prove I had never read a book before you cajoled me into reading that one.

Your meaningless attack on me was indefensible. This attempt at deflection is laughable. Have a nice day.

LoL. Yeah you were like, "ACHTUALLY, the author is wrong, it was on 43rd street, not 39th! "
And other silly nit-picky nonsense like that, that had nothing to do with the original point, and reason I challenged you to read a book on the subject, before flapping your jowels.

Now you are prancing around like some great gladiator.

Pigeon.


then you say

"have a nice day"


LoL

[kahless]

She knows that. Check her posting history. She has never attacked people by saying what they are. Why would she--she spends all her time attacking small government, anti-fascism conservatives. Instead, she accuses us all of being just like her, then attacks us for that.

It is the way it has always been.

You mean "he" knows that and the rest of your post is blatant lies which has been your standard operating procedure for this forum. You speak of posting history but as usual you enter a thread where members are having a civil discussion and call them "White Supremacists", shills, racists and stupid. Ultimately being a total ass to everyone as usual.

[kahless]

Kahless, let's not believe everything said in the mass media. I don't.
Let's all sit back. See what is further said. The multiple shootings in
the Pittsburgh synagogue are going to shove all the headlines about
the mad bomber to page three. This story is depressing. It is recent.

I think I made that pretty clear already in thread and some how acptulsa equated that belief through some twisted logic to racism. I let it go then he attacked 3 more people in the thread. The site guidelines are only selectively enforced it seems.

[acptulsa]

The difference between conspiracy and fact is evidence. Wikileaks provided evidence.

And the difference between activists and shills is, shills like to make activists look foolish by mixing with them and seizing on things that aren't evidence.


LoL. Yeah you were like, "ACHTUALLY, the author is wrong, it was on 43rd street, not 39th! "
And other silly nit-picky nonsense like that, that had nothing to do with the original point, and reason I challenged you to read a book on the subject, before flapping your jowels.

Now you are prancing around like some great gladiator.

Pigeon.


then you say

"have a nice day"


LoL

You do realize you just accused me of nitpicking the book before I read the book, right?



You must have some sort of special friendship with the mods to be able to continue to abuse this site's guidelines and get away with it.

You know perfectly well you shills got me banned for a time, before other regular posters made Bryan see reason.

The Ron Paul Newsletters gave the enemies of freedom ammunition to use against him by incorrectly and unfairly associating him with things most voters cannot support. From the beginning shills have attempted to use this site for the same purpose, and from the beginning I have fought that. Perhaps it doesn't matter, because perhaps neither Dr. Paul will ever run for president again. Perhaps it doesn't matter because maybe libertarian thought no longer involves pure individualism, where collectivizing people is considered a threat and race cannot be the basis of any law. Considering the ridiculous ease with which the Pauls' supporters were peeled off and divided between the raving communist and the raving fascist (because both were "lesser evils" compared to the Wicked Witch of Little Rock), I wouldn't blame them for staying home every four years. But old habits die hard.

In any case, I think Bryan does value the few remaining libertarians who still haunt the site. But I'm having more difficulty all the time figuring out why any of us bother.

[kahless]

You know perfectly well you shills got me banned for a time, before other regular posters made Bryan see reason.

Which regular posters, your sock puppets? If they were legitimate members no doubt they thought you would cut this shit out and be civil going forward.



The Ron Paul Newsletters gave the enemies of freedom ammunition to use against him by incorrectly and unfairly associating him with things most voters cannot support. From the beginning shills have attempted to use this site for the same purpose, and from the beginning I have fought that. Perhaps it doesn't matter, because perhaps neither Dr. Paul will ever run for president again. Considering the ridiculous ease with which their supporters were peeled off and divided between the raving communist and the raving fascist (because both were "lesser evils" compared to the Wicked Witch of Little Rock), I wouldn't blame them. But old habits die hard.

In any case, I think Bryan does value the few remaining libertarians who still haunt the site. But I'm having more difficulty all the time figuring out why any of us bother.

This has nothing to do with what has been going on here, you coming into thread being an asshole right off the bat and making false accusations while bringing race into ever discussion.

[acptulsa]

Unsupported false allegations? Check. Pleas for civility in the same sentences as foul language? Check. A demonstrable inability to correctly use the English language? Check.

Gee, how could I possibly improve upon your fine efforts toward disproving and discrediting yourself?

[thoughtomator]

I think I made that pretty clear already in thread and some how acptulsa equated that belief through some twisted logic to racism. I let it go then he attacked 3 more people in the thread. The site guidelines are only selectively enforced it seems.

The completely arbitrary and selective enforcement of site guidelines has been a running embarassment for years and is likely the primary reason this site has fallen off the map.

[kahless]

Unsupported false allegations?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527784-Democrat-Mail-Bomb-Suspect-In-Custody&p=6698475&viewfull=1#post6698475
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527784-Democrat-Mail-Bomb-Suspect-In-Custody&p=6698498&viewfull=1#post6698498
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527784-Democrat-Mail-Bomb-Suspect-In-Custody&p=6698532&viewfull=1#post6698532
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527784-Democrat-Mail-Bomb-Suspect-In-Custody&p=6698538&viewfull=1#post6698538
I will stop at page 6 because I am lazy but there are more and that is only just this thread.

[thoughtomator]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527784-Democrat-Mail-Bomb-Suspect-In-Custody&p=6698475&viewfull=1#post6698475
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527784-Democrat-Mail-Bomb-Suspect-In-Custody&p=6698498&viewfull=1#post6698498
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527784-Democrat-Mail-Bomb-Suspect-In-Custody&p=6698532&viewfull=1#post6698532
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527784-Democrat-Mail-Bomb-Suspect-In-Custody&p=6698538&viewfull=1#post6698538
I will stop at page 6 because I am lazy but there are more and that is only just this thread.

No amount of evidence will cause the admins here to act with integrity. That's why I only shitpost here now and leave serious discussion for more appropriate forums.

[kahless]

The completely arbitrary and selective enforcement of site guidelines has been a running embarassment for years and is likely the primary reason this site has fallen off the map.

No doubt. Even my own posting frequency and quality effort has dropped significantly over the years. I come in make a few posts and eventually end up making this PSA about it and then leave. Come back later and find nothing has changed except for less and less people posting.

[acptulsa]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527784-Democrat-Mail-Bomb-Suspect-In-Custody&p=6698475&viewfull=1#post6698475
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527784-Democrat-Mail-Bomb-Suspect-In-Custody&p=6698498&viewfull=1#post6698498
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527784-Democrat-Mail-Bomb-Suspect-In-Custody&p=6698532&viewfull=1#post6698532
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527784-Democrat-Mail-Bomb-Suspect-In-Custody&p=6698538&viewfull=1#post6698538
I will stop at page 6 because I am lazy but there are more and that is only just this thread.

Yes. Unsupported false allegations.

Where are those sock puppets of mine, again? Have me confused with Matt Collins?


No amount of evidence will cause the admins here to act with integrity. That's why I only $#@!post here now and leave serious discussion for more appropriate forums.

Because clearly limiting activity on this site to things which support and do not damage the Drs. Paul and their political activities does not fit thoughtomater's definition of "integrity".

[RJ Liberty]

You know perfectly well you shills got me banned for a time, before other regular posters made Bryan see reason.

That was one of the most bizarre things I've witnessed on RPF.

[kahless]

No amount of evidence will cause the admins here to act with integrity. That's why I only shitpost here now and leave serious discussion for more appropriate forums.

heh, I did not refresh before making my last post with similar sentiments to yours.

[kahless]

Because clearly limiting activity on this site to things which support and do not damage the Drs. Paul and their political activities does not fit thoughtomater's definition of "integrity".

You have a long history here of attacking people and then running to the mods to get them banned when they fight back. This forum lost allot of people due to your efforts over the years and perhaps that is your entire point of operating in these forums. It finally did catch up with you at one point.

However no one wants to see anyone banned in this forum but rather for you to keep it civil. You were given the benefit of the doubt and allowed back since it was expected that you would keep it civil.

[thoughtomator]

Because clearly limiting activity on this site to things which support and do not damage the Drs. Paul and their political activities does not fit thoughtomater's definition of "integrity".

The bill for the outrageous witch hunt of anyone who had anything neutral or positive to say about Trump has not been paid and is long past due. They broke pretty much every rule in the site terms, repeatedly, shamelessly, and maliciously - and were allowed to continue to do it for months on end, until everyone who was not on board with anarcho-communism was harassed off the site.

Until action is taken against those who conducted and participated in it, this site cannot claim integrity.

[acptulsa]

You have a long history here of... running to the mods to get them banned...

Yeah? Care to name five specific examples? How about three?


The bill for the outrageous witch hunt of anyone who had anything neutral or positive to say about Trump...

:rolleyes:

Get over your Trumpsucking self. No one accused this site of a lack of integrity for attacking the person, platform and/or troll supporters of McCain, Obama, Romney, Santorum, Gingrich, Bachmann, Huckabee, Graham, Carson, Jeb! Clinton, Barr, Baldwin, Johnson, or a dozen other candidates who didn't hold a candle to the Drs. Paul. Nothing--nothing--actually makes the Democrat in Republican Clothing politician-buying son of a Bronx slumlord one tiny bit different in that regard.

Or perhaps you two could stifle your serial falsehoods long enough for someone--preferably someone who doesn't think "allot" is a compound word--to summarize the actual topic of this thread.

So, let us see. We have a guy with a surname most common in Spanish-speaking countries, who, like Elizabeth Warren, claims to be a native, who is a felon and a registered voter and has ties to local law enforcement, the FBI and the CIA, and is a former Democrat who made a big social media event out of going MAGA, who made dozens of "bombs" that were easy to detect and hard to set off and sent them to purely partisan targets two weeks before an election.

And as soon as the Preferred Narrative falls apart, an act which is a damned sight more heinous occurs to give the talking heads a change of subject.

And could there be any other reasonable explanation than the MSM needed something other than the issues to talk about?

[thoughtomator]

You have a long history here of attacking people and then running to the mods to get them banned when they fight back. This forum lost allot of people due to your efforts over the years and perhaps that is your entire point of operating in these forums. It finally did catch up with you at one point.

However no one wants to see anyone banned in this forum but rather for you to keep it civil. You were given the benefit of the doubt and allowed back since it was expected that you would keep it civil.

Aratus is on my ignore list.

There's only one way to get on my ignore list, and that is to prove to me beyond a reasonable doubt that one is intentionally dishonest.

[Zippyjuan]

Despite his arrest record, Sayoc is not considered a "convicted felon" so he did have the right to register and vote.

https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/10/26/bombing-suspect-is-registered-to-vote-in-miami-dade-voted-in-august-primary-2016-election/


Despite nine arrests since 1991, Sayoc is not a convicted felon, according to records from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

Sayoc's voting history, including a 2016 voter registration application, was released by the Miami-Dade Supervisor of Elections office Friday in response to a public records request by the Times/Herald.

Suzy Trutie, a spokeswoman for the Miami-Dade elections office, said that Sayoc is eligible to vote. Multiple news accounts Friday said Sayoc, a 56-year-old resident of Aventura in Northeast Miami-Dade, has a criminal record dating to the early 1990s.

According to a Florida Department of Law Enforcement file of Sayoc's criminal history, Sayoc has been arrested nine times.

Sayoc pleaded guilty to second-degree felony charges of threatening to throw and discharge a destructive device in 11th Circuit Court in Miami in November, 2002. Adjudication was withheld, meaning he avoided a felony conviction.

He also pleaded guilty to a felony charge of grand theft in the third degree in 1991. Adjudication was withheld. He has also been arrested in drug and battery charges that were either dropped or where adjudication was withheld.

[phill4paul]

Despite his arrest record, Sayoc is not considered a "convicted felon" so he did have the right to register and vote.

https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/10/26/bombing-suspect-is-registered-to-vote-in-miami-dade-voted-in-august-primary-2016-election/

I really wish someone would investigate his political affiliation prior to 2016. I'm not saying their is anything there and perhaps he was a Republican his whole life. But it would be interesting to know and, one would think, worthy of investigating.

[A Son of Liberty]

The completely arbitrary and selective enforcement of site guidelines has been a running embarassment for years and is likely the primary reason this site has fallen off the map.

This site has "fallen off the map" because of racists like yourself attempting to co-opt the libertarian mantle, with a disappointing degree of success.

And I'm not "virtue signaling"; I could give 2 good fucks what anyone thinks of me, I'm an avowed anti-statist not interested in the least in your kind of coercive violence. Just pointing out the facts - this place has gone down hill because it lost it's footing. It's become a mish-mash of conservatives, Establishment Republicans, racial-identitarians, a couple of libertarians, and a sprinkling of anti-statists like myself. And it's a shame.

[thoughtomator]

This site has "fallen off the map" because of racists like yourself attempting to co-opt the libertarian mantle, with a disappointing degree of success.

And I'm not "virtue signaling"; I could give 2 good $#@!s what anyone thinks of me, I'm an avowed anti-statist not interested in the least in your kind of coercive violence. Just pointing out the facts - this place has gone down hill because it lost it's footing. It's become a mish-mash of conservatives, Establishment Republicans, racial-identitarians, a couple of libertarians, and a sprinkling of anti-statists like myself. And it's a shame.

How ironic that your irrational, emotional response is yet another violation of site guidelines.

[A Son of Liberty]

Riiiight

[acptulsa]

How ironic that your irrational, emotional response is yet another violation of site guidelines.

Dude. Do tell us how mentioning no specific names whatsoever (except when he addressed "you") violated one site guideline.

And please remember, there are people who really don't buy the logic that libertarians should grovel to Trump Trolls for getting a bit sharpish when this site was spammed with messages that the sitting president would end wars balance budgets audit the Fed close bureaus repeal bad laws suck out the whole swamp...

You know, if you turn Trump into that guy we were being spammed about when we were being disagreeable, I will grovel to you.

[A Son of Liberty]

Dude. Do tell us how mentioning no specific names whatsoever (except when he addressed "you") violated one site guideline.

And please remember, there are people who really don't buy the logic that libertarians should grovel to Trump Trolls for getting a bit sharpish when this site was spammed with messages that the sitting president would end wars balance budgets audit the Fed close bureaus repeal bad laws suck out the whole swamp...

You know, if you turn Trump into that guy we were being spammed about when we were being disagreeable, I will grovel to you.


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again.

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[kahless]

This site has "fallen off the map" because of racists like yourself attempting to co-opt the libertarian mantle, with a disappointing degree of success.

And I'm not "virtue signaling"; I could give 2 good fucks what anyone thinks of me, I'm an avowed anti-statist not interested in the least in your kind of coercive violence. Just pointing out the facts - this place has gone down hill because it lost it's footing. It's become a mish-mash of conservatives, Establishment Republicans, racial-identitarians, a couple of libertarians, and a sprinkling of anti-statists like myself. And it's a shame.

Could you please provide examples of what you consider his "racist" posts? We have had several people here claim that anyone that supports Trump on any policy and/or restrictions on immigration as racist, which is ridiculous. That word has somewhat lost it's meaning here so I am curious what you believe is "racist".

[thoughtomator]

Could you please provide examples of what you consider his "racist" posts? We have had several people here claim that anyone that supports Trump on any policy and/or restrictions on immigration as racist, which is ridiculous. That word has somewhat lost it's meaning here so I am curious what you believe is "racist".

He called me racist for pointing out how many Ashkenazi are fake-Jew Communists.

In his emotional fury he totally missed that I myself am an Ashkenazi Jew (and not self-hating). He called me racist against myself, that's how absurd he has gotten today.

It's amazing how completely a person can lose all sense of reason when sufficiently emotionally charged.

[kahless]

He called me racist for pointing out how many Ashkenazi are fake-Jew Communists.

In his emotional fury he totally missed that I myself am an Ashkenazi Jew (and not self-hating). He called me racist against myself, that's how absurd he has gotten today.

It's amazing how completely a person can lose all sense of reason when sufficiently emotionally charged.

Bryan should add a script where if you hover over that word a laugh track plays. Well at least that is what I hear whenever I see it used here.

[thoughtomator]

Bryan should add a script where if you hover over that word a laugh track plays. Well at least that is what I hear whenever I see it used here.

What shocks me is that anyone could non-ironically make that charge on RPF and not realize how deeply it betrays their lack of independent thought and agency.

No independent thinker thinks "racist" is a serious thing. It's an obvious rhetorical device for the purpose of shutting down a debate one is losing badly, and has no other purpose.

[RicoCabeza]

In addition to reports that the stamps on the packages were not even marked up by Post Office processing, we have the following:
From Jim Stone -

THE POST OFFICE DOES NOT DELIVER TO PEOPLE UNDER SECRET SERVICE PROTECTION That means when they said Hillary and others got pipe bombs via the mail, it was a lie. This twitter thread has the holy grail of info for this media play bombing, It is a must read before it is deleted:

- https://twitter.com/findtruthQ/status/1055905624637259778?fbclid=IwAR1DapSVTNDjeRRTeJFoI yn1B_muGj3toaTjijwvcJzxY42o_g3zsKYzNiU

BLOCKBUSTER:
The psycho bomber lived five miles from David Hogg. Three miles from Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Two miles from Parkland High School. The same Sheriff - Scott Israel, who is represented by Debbie Wasserman Schultz handled this bomber, the Parkland shooting AND DRUM ROLL: . . . . . The Fort Lauderdale Airport shooting was under Sheriff Scott Israel also.

FACT: THERE IS A TRIBE HIVE PROBLEM IN THE AREA OF FORT LAUDERDALE. THEY HAVE:

The Parkland shooting under Sheriff Israel,
The mail bomber under Sheriff Israel,
And the Fort Lauderdale airport shooting under Sheriff Israel, with a little David Hogg and DWS as a side entree!!! Coincidence OF COURSE.

Oh, and Broward County seems to end up in the middle of a lot of vote rigging scandals also. THAT FITS.

MUST SEE PHOTO:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/fakebomb3.jpg



I thought that I was ‘awake’ , and then I woke up.

REMEMBER the documentary "America: Freedom To Fascism", which Level I Red-Pilled so many people early on?
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ayb02bwp0
LATER the documentary "EUROPA - The Last Battle" was considered to be Level II Red-Pilling.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4W1ph9j_7c [part 1 of 10]
AND the FOLLOWING Report is considered to be Level III Red-Pilling:
- https://drive.google.com/open?id=1C9...FQM8v_bn4AfDEA (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1C9OdDeUdi1B9rjz-2tFQM8v_bn4AfDEA)

[UWDude]

You do realize you just accused me of nitpicking the book before I read the book, right?


ACHHKSHULLY, it was when you got into the last two chapters of the book, where it basically said everything black wall street built was taken from them, and no justice, at all, was ever served.

Then you started to nitpick the book. Yeah, even called the writer an idiot or something like that, over something like they said it was a warehouse, when ti actually was a fire station.

I remember the details of our interaction, bucko. I remember you took pictures too. I remember I tried to open dialogue with you, by mentioning my professor had noted by being segregated, black businesses had no competition from white. However, you said they had it better, no they did not. And when you got to the last two chapters of the book, you did not really get the point, obviously.

And I remembered you thinking how much the big winner you were, in a competition I wasn't even playing. I just wanted you to read a book on the subject, since obviously you never had read a book about race riots in America, and I have read at least a half-dozen.

Remember, Tulsa was just one of thousands of race riots. Never was white neighborhoods getting burned down.
Ghettoization makes sectarian warfare easier to execute.

You see, getting you to read a book on the subject, meant I had already won. That's all I really wanted from that interaction.

[acptulsa]

ACHHKSHULLY...

Anyone who might, for whatever reason, care which of these contradictory samples of spin might be closer to the truth may judge for themselves:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?464319-White-liberal-tries-to-lecture-me-on-how-often-quot-my-race-quot-is-victimized-by-police

Enjoy discovering just how fine a line it is between busybody socialist prog and Soldier of MAGA.

[acptulsa]

... Sheriff Scott Israel, ...

That guy again. It's like he became sheriff and the Bermuda Triangle was moved onto dry land.

[Danke]

In addition to reports that the stamps on the packages were not even marked up by Post Office processing, we have the following:
From Jim Stone -

THE POST OFFICE DOES NOT DELIVER TO PEOPLE UNDER SECRET SERVICE PROTECTION That means when they said Hillary and others got pipe bombs via the mail, it was a lie. This twitter thread has the holy grail of info for this media play bombing, It is a must read before it is deleted:

- https://twitter.com/findtruthQ/status/1055905624637259778?fbclid=IwAR1DapSVTNDjeRRTeJFoI yn1B_muGj3toaTjijwvcJzxY42o_g3zsKYzNiU

BLOCKBUSTER:
The psycho bomber lived five miles from David Hogg. Three miles from Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Two miles from Parkland High School. The same Sheriff - Scott Israel, who is represented by Debbie Wasserman Schultz handled this bomber, the Parkland shooting AND DRUM ROLL: . . . . . The Fort Lauderdale Airport shooting was under Sheriff Scott Israel also.

FACT: THERE IS A TRIBE HIVE PROBLEM IN THE AREA OF FORT LAUDERDALE. THEY HAVE:

The Parkland shooting under Sheriff Israel,
The mail bomber under Sheriff Israel,
And the Fort Lauderdale airport shooting under Sheriff Israel, with a little David Hogg and DWS as a side entree!!! Coincidence OF COURSE.

Oh, and Broward County seems to end up in the middle of a lot of vote rigging scandals also. THAT FITS.

MUST SEE PHOTO:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/fakebomb3.jpg



I thought that I was ‘awake’ , and then I woke up.

REMEMBER the documentary "America: Freedom To Fascism", which Red-Pilled so many people early on?
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ayb02bwp0
LATER the documentary "EUROPA - The Last Battle" was considered to be Level II Red-Pilling.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4W1ph9j_7c
AND the FOLLOWING Report is considered to be Level III Red-Pilling:
- https://drive.google.com/open?id=1C9OdDeUdi1B9rjz-2tFQM8v_bn4AfDEA

We know they weren't sent by a Republican, because they didn't work!

[RicoCabeza]

We know they weren't sent by a Republican, because they didn't work!


The Republicans are certainly MUCH more intelligent than the LibTards, however not always intelligent enough to realize that, It is NOT just the Left perpetrators, BUT Trump also needs to be tried for TREASON as he works for the same people as Hillary, the Globalist Zionist Luciferian Adrenochrome Addicted Cannibals, as perhaps best proven in the following report. This report also proves from multiple angles that Q Anon is a hoax by design:
- https://drive.google.com/open?id=1C9OdDeUdi1B9rjz-2tFQM8v_bn4AfDEA



I thought that I was ‘awake’ , and then I woke up.

REMEMBER the documentary "America: Freedom To Fascism", which Level I Red-Pilled so many people early on?
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ayb02bwp0
LATER the documentary "EUROPA - The Last Battle" was considered Level II Red-Pilling.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4W1ph9j_7c [part 1 of 10]
AND the FOLLOWING Report is considered to be Level III Red-Pilling:
- https://drive.google.com/open?id=1C9...FQM8v_bn4AfDEA (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1C9OdDeUdi1B9rjz-2tFQM8v_bn4AfDEA)

[UWDude]

The Republicans are certainly MUCH more intelligent than the LibTards, however not always intelligent enough to realize that, It is NOT just the Left perpetrators, BUT Trump also needs to be tried for TREASON as he works for the same people as Hillary, the Globalist Zionist Luciferian Adrenochrome Addicted Cannibals, as perhaps best proven in the following report. This report also proves from multiple angles that Q Anon is a hoax by design:
- https://drive.google.com/open?id=1C9OdDeUdi1B9rjz-2tFQM8v_bn4AfDEA



I thought that I was ‘awake’ , and then I woke up.

REMEMBER the documentary "America: Freedom To Fascism", which Level I Red-Pilled so many people early on?
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ayb02bwp0
LATER the documentary "EUROPA - The Last Battle" was considered Level II Red-Pilling.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4W1ph9j_7c [part 1 of 10]
AND the FOLLOWING Report is considered to be Level III Red-Pilling:
- https://drive.google.com/open?id=1C9...FQM8v_bn4AfDEA (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1C9OdDeUdi1B9rjz-2tFQM8v_bn4AfDEA)

Love the "conspiracy behind the conspiracy behind the conspiracy guys", with the Huge signatures. Sometimes they are 500 links, sometimes they are a giant wall of text.

[UWDude]

Anyone who might, for whatever reason, care which of these contradictory samples of spin might be closer to the truth may judge for themselves:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?464319-White-liberal-tries-to-lecture-me-on-how-often-quot-my-race-quot-is-victimized-by-police

Enjoy discovering just how fine a line it is between busybody socialist prog and Soldier of MAGA.

Do you ever introspect at all?
Why do you think anybody would give a fuck about one of your proud feathers in your troll cap?
They're all proud feathers to you. All 44,900 of them, you win big every time. 44,900 to 0.
Still undefeated.

Nobody cares dude. Nobody cares about the book, and our conversation about the book.
Nobody cares that you strongly feel you are right on this one.

NOBODY CARES.

[jmdrake]

Anyone who might, for whatever reason, care which of these contradictory samples of spin might be closer to the truth may judge for themselves:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?464319-White-liberal-tries-to-lecture-me-on-how-often-quot-my-race-quot-is-victimized-by-police

Enjoy discovering just how fine a line it is between busybody socialist prog and Soldier of MAGA.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again.

[acptulsa]

They're all proud feathers to you. All 44,900 of them...

When you're involved, the only sure winner is the guy who sells you all that straw.

[Firestarter]

very cozy with law enforcement. likely dirty cops.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqerCOqXgAAChAM.jpg
Cesar Sayoc's CIA friend Ricki is the former top CIA agent Enrique 'Ric' Prado.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7DUdw-2bRIg/W9VuA7F6y3I/AAAAAAAApDI/CanKP0l-xP0XlD3x0BYstYKu6IDAg-CogCLcBGAs/s640/Cesar%2BSayoc-post-about-great-friend-Enrique-Prado.jpg

A federal organized crime squad, run out of the Miami-Dade Police Department, tied Prado to seven murders carried out while he worked as a bodyguard for a narco crime boss.
Prado moved a secret death squad from the CIA to Blackwater (of Trump’s education secretary Betsy DeVos’ brother Erik Prince): http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2018/10/mail-bomb-psy-op-cesar-sayoc.html

According to his lawyer Cesar Sayoc doesn’t have the intellectual capcity to be the bomber: https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/family-lawyer-says-cesar-sayoc-does-not-have-the-intellectual-capacity-to-be-package-bomber

[Weston White]

He would at the very least had been getting tickets each day he drove that around by Florida police for obstructed views.

That is good point to about the fading, peeling, cracking stickers. Also, he would have been on a JTTF/USSS list already for all of that targeting of people in plain view, people would have been calling the police by every other person that walked past it.

[AuH20]

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[Anti Federalist]

In Rambling Note, Pipe Bomb Suspect Cesar Sayoc Blames Steroids For Actions

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/04/24/pipe-bomb-cesar-sayoc-steroids/

April 24, 2019 at 12:20 amFiled Under:Cesar Sayoc, explosive device mailings, Local TV, New York, pipe bombs

NEW YORK (AP) — A Florida man who mailed crudely made pipe bombs to prominent critics of President Donald Trump said he abused steroids for over 40 years, an issue his lawyers say they’ll cite at sentencing.

Cesar Sayoc made the assertion in lengthy and rambling letters to a federal judge that were posted in his court case file Tuesday.

Sayoc, 57, pleaded guilty to explosives-related charges in March and faces a mandatory 10-year prison term and up to life in prison when he’s sentenced Aug. 5. His lawyers told the judge in a different letter that a psychiatrist with specialized knowledge of the effects steroids can have on mental health will compose a report on Sayoc’s extensive steroid use prior to that sentencing date.

He said he never intended to injure anyone when he mailed 16 rudimentary bombs to CNN offices and numerous Democrats, including former presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, former President Barack Obama, former Vice President Joe Biden, members of Congress and actor Robert De Niro.

The bombs were mailed to addresses in New York, New Jersey, Delaware, California, Atlanta and Washington, D.C., and began turning up over a five-day stretch weeks before the 2018 midterm elections.

No bombs exploded, which Sayoc said was by design, describing the devices as little more than fireworks. Prosecutors plan to submit a detailed report on the explosives prior to sentencing.

In his letters, Sayoc told U.S. District Judge Jed S. Rakoff that he had abused steroids for more than four decades and was using 274 different supplements and vitamins along with “heavy amounts of steroids” before his arrest.

He wrote that before he mailed explosives, his idea “first was how to tone down the liberal left violence platform.” He wrote that he believed prominent Democrats were encouraging violence, saying he had been attacked personally — including as he returned to his hotel after attending Trump’s inauguration.

Sayoc also asserted “leftist leadership” had encouraged followers to commit violence that caused $1,800 worth of damage to his van, including slashed tires, sliced fuel lines, broken windows and doors and damage to his battery that a mechanic told him could have caused it to explode.

Sayoc has been held without bail since his arrest in late October outside a South Florida auto parts store. He had been living in his van, which was plastered with Trump stickers and images of crosshairs superimposed over the faces of Trump opponents.

Since being imprisoned, Sayoc said, he has heard voices and suffered various psychological effects, including depression, high anxiety, vertigo and loneliness.

Explaining his crimes, he said he was never political until he was looking at Facebook on his phone one day when “Donald J. Trump popped up …”

He likened attending a Trump rally to a newfound drug.

“I was getting so wrapped up in this new found fun drug,” he said in one handwritten letter.

Now, though, he says he has sworn off politics.

“Politics is dirty, ruthless, deadly,” he wrote. “It is a poison. It will drive you crazy like it or not.”