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jct74
10-19-2018, 01:23 AM
What happened to Tucker? He sounds like a nutjob in this video and seems to have abandoned his libertarian principles.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDvQsfQvS4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDvQsfQvS4Y

jct74
10-19-2018, 01:27 AM
"Don't give me that personal freedom garbage."

- Tucker Carlson

Danke
10-19-2018, 03:13 AM
Tucker lost me .

nobody's_hero
10-19-2018, 06:31 AM
I don't think anything "happened" to Tucker. He just hasn't come around on this issue yet.

It doesn't fit in with his mostly-well-reasoned segments though.

Origanalist
10-19-2018, 07:06 AM
Off the rails bullshit.

Grandmastersexsay
10-19-2018, 07:38 AM
The problem with all these host is that they are always pandering, and Tucker thinks this is what his audience wants to hear. There a very few who are willing to take a hit in their ratings to stand by their principles. It might be fun to watch Tucker go after liberals and you might like how he defends Trump, but you would be a fool to think he is any different than a Beck, Limbaugh, or Hannity.

nikcers
10-19-2018, 07:39 AM
Can we stop taking Tucker Carlson seriously now?

jkr
10-19-2018, 07:43 AM
...annnnnd HE'S GONE!

timosman
10-19-2018, 08:29 AM
He's right but he doesn't realize the grand plan of dumbing down people is already backfiring. :cool:

CCTelander
10-19-2018, 08:53 AM
Tucker Carlson is a socialist conspiracy to dumb down America.

Influenza
10-19-2018, 09:03 AM
I thought his news network and its competitors were part of a conspiracy to dumb down america

Origanalist
10-19-2018, 09:32 AM
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2018/october/19/tucker-carlson-s-marijuana-malarkey/

Tucker Carlson’s Marijuana Malarkey
written by adam dick friday october 19, 2018

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/media/121975/tucker.jpg?width=451px&height=338px

In August, Tucker Carlson declared at his Fox News show that it would be an act of war on the United States for the Mexico government to cease engaging in a war on heroin. Carlson even supported his wacky conclusion by pointing to drug overdose deaths in America, despite those deaths in fact being multiplied because of the US war on drugs. On Wednesday, Carlson was back at his show spouting drug war nonsense — this time expressing his dread of marijuana legalization that kicked in this week countrywide in Canada potentially spreading throughout America.

The nonsense starts in the first words Carlson states in his introduction of guest Mason Tvert of the Marijuana Policy Project. Carlson begins: “Well Canada has become just the second country in the history of the world to fully legalize the sale of marijuana as well as the recreational consumption.” The inclusion of the phrase “in the history of the world” gives the impression that prohibition has been the norm throughout world history, from thousands of years BC until Uruguay legalized marijuana sales in 2017. Carlson would need look no further than his own country of America to see the ridiculousness of this suggestion. From the founding of the Unites States government in the 1700s through the early 1900s, the national government did not prohibit the sale or use of marijuana. In fact, it did not prohibit the sale or use of other now-illegal drugs such as cocaine either.

Next up, Carlson dwells on the danger that marijuana “makes people less likely to act” and “more passive.” Of course, that is not true across-the-board as marijuana use can help people see things in a new way, leading to innovations in how they act in the future. Think of it as a form of brainstorming aid. It can also serve as rejuvenating relaxation and distraction, as can taking a break from work and chores to listen to music or play a sport. Nevertheless, assuming that Carlson’s assessment is correct, it would just as well be an argument for making illegal many other activities, such as watching a TV sitcom, taking a walk, or playing a card game.

One thing Carlson seems to be trying to argue is that legalization leads to a bunch of people turning into Cheech-and-Chong-style full-time “stoners.” As Tvert responds to Tucker, “that’s like saying everyone who enjoys a cocktail after work with their friends is a lush.” And even if marijuana use makes some people less productive, that is how freedom operates. With freedom, someone can choose to become an overachieving business dynamo or to be mellow, taking time to smell the roses and, maybe, eat a marijuana brownie.

Where Carlson’s comments may be most outrageous in the interview is when he responds to Tvert’s statement that “hundreds of thousands of Americans are arrested every year for marijuana.” Responds Carlson: “No, no one in most places is arrested for a joint.” Here are the numbers Tom Angell at Marijuana Moment derived from US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) data: 659,700 marijuana arrests in America in 2017, accounting for 40.4 percent of drug arrests that year and made up mostly of arrests for mere marijuana possession, instead of for selling or growing the plant.

Further, if Carlson’s declaration that Americans are not being arrested for possessing marijuana were true, that would undercut his primary assertion that keeping marijuana illegal is needed to prevent the marijuana zombie apocalypse.

Watch Carlson’s complete interview with Tvert here:

Same video as OP....http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2018/october/19/tucker-carlson-s-marijuana-malarkey/

CCTelander
10-19-2018, 09:45 AM
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2018/october/19/tucker-carlson-s-marijuana-malarkey/

Tucker Carlson’s Marijuana Malarkey
written by adam dick friday october 19, 2018

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/media/121975/tucker.jpg?width=451px&height=338px

In August, Tucker Carlson declared at his Fox News show that it would be an act of war on the United States for the Mexico government to cease engaging in a war on heroin. Carlson even supported his wacky conclusion by pointing to drug overdose deaths in America, despite those deaths in fact being multiplied because of the US war on drugs. On Wednesday, Carlson was back at his show spouting drug war nonsense — this time expressing his dread of marijuana legalization that kicked in this week countrywide in Canada potentially spreading throughout America.

The nonsense starts in the first words Carlson states in his introduction of guest Mason Tvert of the Marijuana Policy Project. Carlson begins: “Well Canada has become just the second country in the history of the world to fully legalize the sale of marijuana as well as the recreational consumption.” The inclusion of the phrase “in the history of the world” gives the impression that prohibition has been the norm throughout world history, from thousands of years BC until Uruguay legalized marijuana sales in 2017. Carlson would need look no further than his own country of America to see the ridiculousness of this suggestion. From the founding of the Unites States government in the 1700s through the early 1900s, the national government did not prohibit the sale or use of marijuana. In fact, it did not prohibit the sale or use of other now-illegal drugs such as cocaine either.

Next up, Carlson dwells on the danger that marijuana “makes people less likely to act” and “more passive.” Of course, that is not true across-the-board as marijuana use can help people see things in a new way, leading to innovations in how they act in the future. Think of it as a form of brainstorming aid. It can also serve as rejuvenating relaxation and distraction, as can taking a break from work and chores to listen to music or play a sport. Nevertheless, assuming that Carlson’s assessment is correct, it would just as well be an argument for making illegal many other activities, such as watching a TV sitcom, taking a walk, or playing a card game.

One thing Carlson seems to be trying to argue is that legalization leads to a bunch of people turning into Cheech-and-Chong-style full-time “stoners.” As Tvert responds to Tucker, “that’s like saying everyone who enjoys a cocktail after work with their friends is a lush.” And even if marijuana use makes some people less productive, that is how freedom operates. With freedom, someone can choose to become an overachieving business dynamo or to be mellow, taking time to smell the roses and, maybe, eat a marijuana brownie.

Where Carlson’s comments may be most outrageous in the interview is when he responds to Tvert’s statement that “hundreds of thousands of Americans are arrested every year for marijuana.” Responds Carlson: “No, no one in most places is arrested for a joint.” Here are the numbers Tom Angell at Marijuana Moment derived from US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) data: 659,700 marijuana arrests in America in 2017, accounting for 40.4 percent of drug arrests that year and made up mostly of arrests for mere marijuana possession, instead of for selling or growing the plant.

Further, if Carlson’s declaration that Americans are not being arrested for possessing marijuana were true, that would undercut his primary assertion that keeping marijuana illegal is needed to prevent the marijuana zombie apocalypse.

Watch Carlson’s complete interview with Tvert here:

Same video as OP....http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2018/october/19/tucker-carlson-s-marijuana-malarkey/


Yet another media shill for the state. Color me shocked ... not.

Brian4Liberty
10-19-2018, 10:16 AM
It seemed like Tucker was proposing that marijuana is a Brave New World-style Soma conspiracy by the government.

He did say that he is against prohibition, and doesn’t want to make it illegal, but by the end, it was hard to tell what he was actually proposing. Best I could determine, he wants to keep it illegal but not enforce the law?

He was a bit inconsistent on that one...

enhanced_deficit
10-19-2018, 10:23 AM
"Don't give me that personal freedom garbage."

- Tucker Carlson

Well he's a Trump-Libertarian.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527483-Federal-court-rules-state-firearm-laws-invalid&p=6693922&viewfull=1#post6693922

Matt Collins
10-19-2018, 10:27 AM
Tucker's in it for the money.

AZJoe
10-19-2018, 10:40 AM
Tucker definitely lost this argument big time.
Tucker: Yes its still illegal but “No, no one in most places is arrested for a joint.” It is criminal but not enforced, and we should keep it criminal but not enforce it. - that's just bizarre.
As Adam Dick point out in the RPI article, he is also blatantly wrong about not being enforced, 659,000 arrests last year alone:
the numbers (https://www.marijuanamoment.net/marijuana-arrests-are-increasing-despite-legalization-new-fbi-data-shows/) ... from US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) data: 659,700 marijuana arrests in America in 2017, accounting for 40.4 percent of drug arrests that year and made up mostly of arrests for mere marijuana possession ...

dannno
10-19-2018, 10:46 AM
Elon Musk, inventor of Tesla, SpaceX, etc..

https://media1.tenor.com/images/02090871c75cbef4e11b88f99f2ee782/tenor.gif?itemid=12471919

enhanced_deficit
10-19-2018, 10:54 AM
Can we stop taking Tucker Carlson seriously now?

I dunno, his perpetually raised eyebrows facial outrage expression is probably best in the biz right now. Don't think he should be ditched completely... unless him and Ann Counter with hardcore GOP conservatives ended up ditching MAGA.

Ender
10-19-2018, 11:06 AM
As I've posted many times, the only reason marijuana became illegal was to make hemp illegal.

Big Corps colluded w/the government to get rid of hemp because it was stronger & better than steel, cotton etc. and can also make oil, w/o destroying the environment. Gov gave cannabis the Mexican nickname of "marijuana" to make it sound more evil to 'Murikans.

The WoD came about to support the alphabets; drugs are a prime source of income "an' they don' like no competition".

Cannabis is truly valuable & can help with many physical & mental issues.The worst things that can come from marijuana is more laughter & a relaxed atmosphere.

RonZeplin
10-19-2018, 12:52 PM
It's election season so acting stupid is mandatory to retain sponsors and keep his job.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--aOPsUjWB--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/sia8asfm4cbivpuk5mej.jpg

Beer good, weed bad

kcchiefs6465
10-19-2018, 03:40 PM
More Pimping-For-Paul-esque propagandist bullshit.

kcchiefs6465
10-19-2018, 03:45 PM
It seemed like Tucker was proposing that marijuana is a Brave New World-style Soma conspiracy by the government.

He did say that he is against prohibition, and doesn’t want to make it illegal, but by the end, it was hard to tell what he was actually proposing. Best I could determine, he wants to keep it illegal but not enforce the law?

He was a bit inconsistent on that one...
To say the least.

Having never read Brave New World, I was unaware of Soma.

https://www.drugs.com/soma.html


What is Soma?
Soma (carisoprodol) is a muscle relaxer that blocks pain sensations between the nerves and the brain.

Soma is used together with rest and physical therapy to treat skeletal muscle conditions such as pain or injury.

Soma should only be used for short periods (up to two or three weeks) because there is no evidence of its effectiveness in long term use and most skeletal muscle injuries are generally of short duration.

I wonder where they got their name?

Anti Federalist
10-19-2018, 04:21 PM
Tucker's in it for the money.

Bingo.

He'll do and say what he's told to by the people that pay him.

Brian4Liberty
10-19-2018, 04:29 PM
To say the least.

Having never read Brave New World, I was unaware of Soma.

https://www.drugs.com/soma.html

I wonder where they got their name?

Not sure on the original of the name.

Commentary on the book:


"Euphoric, narcotic, pleasantly hallucinant"—that's what Mustapha says of soma. It's arguably the best tool the government has for controlling its population. It sedates, calms, and most importantly distracts a person from realizing that there's actually something very, very wrong—namely, that the citizens of the World State are enslaved. (https://www.shmoop.com/brave-new-world/soma-symbol.html)

PierzStyx
10-19-2018, 04:40 PM
Tucker Carlson is a socialist conspiracy to dumb down America.

Well said.

AuH20
10-19-2018, 04:45 PM
It seemed like Tucker was proposing that marijuana is a Brave New World-style Soma conspiracy by the government.

He did say that he is against prohibition, and doesn’t want to make it illegal, but by the end, it was hard to tell what he was actually proposing. Best I could determine, he wants to keep it illegal but not enforce the law?

He was a bit inconsistent on that one...

It does temporarily alter dopamine levels, which leads to much greater problems with heavy use. Look, it's people who the abuse the hell out of this garbage. It's not the drug's fault. It's like any substance. Too much consumption usually creates harmful effects.

Brian4Liberty
10-19-2018, 04:51 PM
OxyContin would probably be the closet thing we have today to Huxley’s soma. Will Tucker do a segment about that?

dannno
10-19-2018, 04:54 PM
OxyContin would probably be the closet thing we have today to Huxley’s soma. Will Tucker do a segment about that?

Have you taken Soma the muscle relaxant?

It's been almost 20 years since I tried it, but it's pretty powerful.

TheTexan
10-19-2018, 05:27 PM
Weed makes people "passive, stupid, and less likely to revolt"

We wouldn't want that

Swordsmyth
10-19-2018, 05:34 PM
You can't expect all of your allies to be right on every issue, I never thought of him as a close ally because I didn't know enough about him and this doesn't therefore change my opinion of him.

A revolution needs a big tent so it would be unwise to make an enemy of every one who disagrees with us on a few topics.

Grandmastersexsay
10-19-2018, 06:10 PM
You can't expect all of your allies to be right on every issue, I never thought of him as a close ally because I didn't know enough about him and this doesn't therefore change my opinion of him.

A revolution needs a big tent so it would be unwise to make an enemy of every one who disagrees with us on a few topics.

It isn't the specific issue that's the problem, it's the underlying philosophy. You either believe in liberty and personal responsibility or you don't. You can't argue for some liberties and argue against others and retain credibility.

Anti Globalist
10-19-2018, 06:12 PM
Tucker did a no-no.

Swordsmyth
10-19-2018, 06:16 PM
It isn't the specific issue that's the problem, it's the underlying philosophy. You either believe in liberty and personal responsibility or you don't. You can't argue for some liberties and argue against others and retain credibility.
But you can be an ally if you want to reduce government, at some point people like Tucker won't want to reduce government any more and we will and then he won't be an ally anymore.

dannno
10-19-2018, 06:17 PM
It isn't the specific issue that's the problem, it's the underlying philosophy. You either believe in liberty and personal responsibility or you don't. You can't argue for some liberties and argue against others and retain credibility.

....but pretty sure somebody posted a quote that he was against prohibition

Madison320
10-19-2018, 06:46 PM
What happened to Tucker? He sounds like a nutjob in this video and seems to have abandoned his libertarian principles.




Capitalism is where the rights of the individual trump the needs of the state.

Socialism is where the needs of the state trump individual rights.

Marijuana laws are a textbook example of socialism. The state's "need" trumps your individual right to ingest what you want.

I have a little legal beer buzz right now so hopefully that made sense.

specsaregood
10-19-2018, 07:03 PM
You can't expect all of your allies to be right on every issue, I never thought of him as a close ally because I didn't know enough about him and this doesn't therefore change my opinion of him.

A revolution needs a big tent so it would be unwise to make an enemy of every one who disagrees with us on a few topics.

In 2007 just as dr.paul was starting to pick up some steam, tucker shows up in a limo at a Paul rally in NV along with a pimp and some hookers. Starts proudly prancing them in front of the media, "hookers for Ron paul". Or some shit. fuck tucker.

Swordsmyth
10-19-2018, 07:08 PM
In 2007 just as dr.paul was starting to pick up some steam, tucker shows up in a limo at a Paul rally in NV along with a pimp and some hookers. Starts proudly prancing them in front of the media, "hookers for Ron paul". Or some $#@!. $#@! tucker.

I wasn't aware of that but as long as he isn't attacking us now and he does promote some good things then he isn't a priority target and can be treated as an untrustworthy ally.

dannno
10-19-2018, 07:10 PM
In 2007 just as dr.paul was starting to pick up some steam, tucker shows up in a limo at a Paul rally in NV along with a pimp and some hookers. Starts proudly prancing them in front of the media, "hookers for Ron paul". Or some shit. fuck tucker.

Ya that was messed up.. he did end up going to Ron Paul's opposing Republican convention in 2012, but he left when Jesse Ventura brought up 9/11 truth in his speech and made a big fuss about it.

He's still one of the best ones on Fox News and has been doing some pretty good work overall.

olehounddog
10-19-2018, 07:15 PM
Rally For The Republic. Remember what he did there?

r3volution 3.0
10-19-2018, 07:21 PM
Tucker's in it for the money.

ding ding ding

However, there is a difference between him and the average illiterate TV show host; he knows what he's doing is wrong.

He gets a special, lower, circle in hell.

Brian4Liberty
10-19-2018, 08:28 PM
Have you taken Soma the muscle relaxant?

It's been almost 20 years since I tried it, but it's pretty powerful.

Never tried it. I try to limit my drug intake to alcohol and lupulin. Just like Brett Kavanaugh. ;)


....but pretty sure somebody posted a quote that he was against prohibition

He said in the segment in question that he is opposed to “prohibition”. Guess he is in some weird in-between state where nothing changes from today’s state. Often illegal, but often not enforced. He’s perpetually at a concert.

Danke
10-19-2018, 08:33 PM
Rally For The Republic. Remember what he did there?


Yes, he walked out as the MC because Jesse Ventura asked questions about why the FBI did not Osama Bin Laden on their most wanted list. 911 conspiracy was supposed to be off limits in his agreement to MC the event.

nikcers
01-03-2019, 03:32 PM
bump

AuH20
01-03-2019, 03:34 PM
Ask why people are moving towards marijauna as opposed to the validity of it? That's the real question. Escapism.

nikcers
01-03-2019, 03:36 PM
Ask why people are moving towards marijauna as opposed to the validity of it? That's the real question. Escapism.

Why are people moving away from the non aggression principle? That's the real question.

AuH20
01-03-2019, 03:43 PM
Bingo.

He'll do and say what he's told to by the people that pay him.

Nah. He's turned paleo. They don't look upon marijuana kindly and view it as a character defect. Yes, marijuana isn't all it's cracked up to be, but there are external factors driving up the usage. People are trying to escape the dreariness of reality and soothe their pain, which could be a detrimental outcome for the human race.

shakey1
01-03-2019, 03:48 PM
Me thinks Tucker needs to burn a fatty.

Superfluous Man
01-03-2019, 03:53 PM
This goes right along with his immigration views.

dannno
01-03-2019, 03:54 PM
Nah. He's turned paleo. They don't look upon marijuana kindly and view it as a character defect. Yes, marijuana isn't all it's cracked up to be, but there are external factors driving up the usage. People are trying to escape the dreariness of reality and soothe their pain, which could be a detrimental outcome for the human race.

Ya I disagree with all of this.. you might be right that some paleo folks might not be into cannabis, but that is because they are ignorant and don't understand human's relationship with the plant. But honestly I've never heard any paleo folks talk about cannabis, except to say that hemp seed is a decent thing to eat.

Humans have been ingesting cannabis for millions of years and it is integral to our health and wellness. Our bodies have an endocannabindoid system that regulates many of our body's processes. We function much better when we are ingesting cannabis and it keeps us way more healthy.

We have evolved to utilize this substance for medicine, food and building materials/fiber/ropes/clothing.

High THC cannabis has its purposes - spiritual, medicinal and such - but there is a lot more to it than that.

Superfluous Man
01-03-2019, 03:56 PM
Nah. He's turned paleo. They don't look upon marijuana kindly and view it as a character defect. Yes, marijuana isn't all it's cracked up to be, but there are external factors driving up the usage. People are trying to escape the dreariness of reality and soothe their pain, which could be a detrimental outcome for the human race.

If I remember right both Pat Buchanan and Tom Tancredo were for legalizing marijuana, and that's going back several years to when that was a less mainstream position than it is now.

AuH20
01-03-2019, 04:03 PM
Ya I disagree with all of this.. you might be right that some paleo folks might not be into cannabis, but that is because they are ignorant and don't understand human's relationship with the plant.

Humans have been ingesting cannabis for millions of years and it is integral to our health and wellness. Our bodies have an endocannabindoid system that regulates many of our body's processes. We function much better when we are ingesting cannabis and it keeps us way more healthy.

We have evolved to utilize this substance for medicine, food and building materials/fiber/ropes/clothing.

High THC cannabis has its purposes - spiritual, medicinal and such - but there is a lot more to it than that.

It still alters dopamine levels by catering to the pleasure center of the brain. I don't think it's more harmful than alcohol, but excessive use will cripple your well-being.

nikcers
01-03-2019, 04:14 PM
People are trying to escape... which could be a detrimental outcome for the human race.

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wake_up_sheeple.png

dannno
01-03-2019, 04:16 PM
It's still alters dopamine levels by catering to the pleasure center of the brain. I don't think it's more harmful than alcohol, but excessive use will cripple your well-being.

Um, ok, bananas increase dopamine....are you sure this is really a problem?

I will admit that there are a few people out there who might use it excessively.. I don't think it causes any longterm damage to use in excess, but it can affect how people act in the short term.

For many people cannabis is hugely motivational. For others, they may use it as a form of escape. But it is by far the safest substance to use for that purpose.

nikcers
01-03-2019, 04:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBTvAYrrEqA

AuH20
01-03-2019, 04:31 PM
Um, ok, bananas increase dopamine....are you sure this is really a problem?

I will admit that there are a few people out there who might use it excessively.. I don't think it causes any longterm damage to use in excess, but it can affect how people act in the short term.

For many people cannabis is hugely motivational. For others, they may use it as a form of escape. But it is by far the safest substance to use for that purpose.

It's a major problem, since it can lead to depression. I don't think the person who smokes once or twice a week is at risk, but the binge smoker is. There is a zero sum game for psychoactive substances introduced into a closed system such as the human nervous system.

dannno
01-03-2019, 04:33 PM
It's a major problem, since it can lead to depression. I don't think the person who smokes once or twice a week is at risk, but the binge smoker is. There is a zero sum game for psychoactive substances introduced into a closed system such as the human nervous system.

I've been smoking all day every day for almost 20 years.. no depression. In fact, I had problems with depression when I was younger, before I started. When I started, it helped ease the depression. Now it's gone. Smoking herb longterm does not cause depression. I don't think longterm use causes any health ailments.

Swordsmyth
01-03-2019, 04:49 PM
I've been smoking all day every day for almost 20 years.. no depression. In fact, I had problems with depression when I was younger, before I started. When I started, it helped ease the depression. Now it's gone. Smoking herb longterm does not cause depression. I don't think longterm use causes any health ailments.
Millage may vary.
Everyone's body is different, I have known some heavy users whose mental faculties were affected.

nikcers
01-03-2019, 04:59 PM
Millage may vary.
Everyone's body is different, I have known some heavy users whose mental faculties were affected.
Just because you knew a couple crazy people who have smoked marijuana doesn't mean it makes you crazy. Occam's razor stops you from making irrational leaps of faith, if there was any scientific basis that it makes you crazy the Tobacco and Alcohol and drug war lobbyists would of funded it.

Swordsmyth
01-03-2019, 05:02 PM
Just because you knew a couple crazy people who have smoked marijuana doesn't mean it makes you crazy. Occam's razor stops you from making irrational leaps of faith, if there was any scientific basis that it makes you crazy the Tobacco and Alcohol and drug lobbyists would of funded it.
Not crazy, dumb.

dannno
01-03-2019, 05:03 PM
Millage may vary.
Everyone's body is different, I have known some heavy users whose mental faculties were affected.

In studies of heavy users they have not shown that cannabis causes any significant decrease in IQ. In fact, it helps regenerate brain cells.

I have a friend who got a 133 IQ score while he was high.. thing is, IMO he seems like a guy with an IQ in the mid to upper 120s, not low 130s. I don't even know how the hell he scored so high on that thing. I know I have at least a few IQ points on him, and I don't think I'm much higher than 133.

There is a change that occurs in how you think about things, and sometimes that can translate into taking longer to think about something. But what I would question is whether the cannabis user is taking longer to think about something because they are processing more - their brain is wired to consider a larger variety of options and alternatives.

I know I feel like the complexity of tasks I'm able to handle today is at least as great as before I started. I also believe that the way in which I think has improved vastly, in large part because of my cannabis usage.

There are plenty of people out there who are extremely intelligent and who enjoy cannabis regularly or from time to time.

dannno
01-03-2019, 05:04 PM
Not crazy, dumb.

Are you absolutely certain that cannabis was the only substance they were ingesting during this time? No heavy drinking or other drug use?

oyarde
01-03-2019, 05:07 PM
So when zippy said Ron Paul knows a lot of crazy people he was talking about you guys ?

nikcers
01-03-2019, 05:10 PM
Not crazy, dumb.
Motivated reasoning is for church not politics. You can't just bring up the reefer madness talking points of the last century.

Swordsmyth
01-03-2019, 05:13 PM
In studies of heavy users they have not shown that cannabis causes any significant decrease in IQ. In fact, it helps regenerate brain cells.

I have a friend who got a 133 IQ score while he was high.. thing is, IMO he seems like a guy with an IQ in the mid to upper 120s, not low 130s. I don't even know how the hell he scored so high on that thing. I know I have at least a few IQ points on him, and I don't think I'm much higher than 133.

There is a change that occurs in how you think about things, and sometimes that can translate into taking longer to think about something. But what I would question is whether the cannabis user is taking longer to think about something because they are processing more - their brain is wired to consider a larger variety of options and alternatives.

I know I feel like the complexity of tasks I'm able to handle today is at least as great as before I started. I also believe that the way in which I think has improved vastly, in large part because of my cannabis usage.

There are plenty of people out there who are extremely intelligent and who enjoy cannabis regularly or from time to time.
I didn't say it had the same effect on everyone.


Are you absolutely certain that cannabis was the only substance they were ingesting during this time? No heavy drinking or other drug use?
I couldn't swear to it in court.

I don't usually bother you users because it should be legal and I don't think that it is always harmful to everyone at any dosage but mind altering substances aren't always benign.

If only it were legal and we could have proper scientific studies about the effects on various people at various dosages.............

Swordsmyth
01-03-2019, 05:15 PM
Motivated reasoning is for church not politics. You can't just bring up the reefer madness talking points of the last century.
I'm not using motivated reasoning, I'm relaying my admittedly limited experience.

If only it were legal and we could have proper scientific studies about the effects on various people at various dosages.............

enhanced_deficit
01-03-2019, 05:24 PM
Tucker appears to be even bigger libertarian than other foxnews libetarians like Glenn Beck, Orielly or Savage. Plus's he's often in agreement with Coulter.

Occam's Banana
01-04-2019, 02:23 AM
Guess he is in some weird in-between state where nothing changes from today’s state. Often illegal, but often not enforced. He’s perpetually at a concert.

Schrödinger's pothead?

Anti Federalist
04-10-2019, 04:42 PM
bump for another thread

Stratovarious
04-10-2019, 04:53 PM
love Tucker, but does he still believe this blsht , or has he finally woken up.

I think Pot is a complete waste of time, but there should be no drug laws.

dannno
04-10-2019, 04:58 PM
love Tucker, but does he still believe this blsht , or has he finally woken up.

I think Pot is a complete waste of time, but there should be no drug laws.

Tucker has never said there should be drug laws, he just really doesn't think people should be using cannabis..and he thinks the movement to legalize cannabis is a bread and circus conspiracy.

Me? I've known for almost 20 years that cannabis was safe, the government lied to us and that people would find out and it would be legal within a decade or two. The conspiracy was keeping such a useful plant illegal. Once the internet came out and people began educating themselves, there is nothing they can really do to hold it back. Cannabis legalization is very much a grass roots movement, it's not some elitist conspiracy.

kona
04-10-2019, 05:13 PM
I agree with Tucker.

NOT because I believe marijuana is bad.

But because anything the elites *believe* is bad will be used against us, independent of harm.

The intellekshuals will throw anything and everything at the wall of our destruction, certainly not because they expect it all to stick.

All it takes is one.

Stratovarious
04-10-2019, 05:22 PM
Tucker has never said there should be drug laws, he just really doesn't think people should be using cannabis..and he thinks the movement to legalize cannabis is a bread and circus conspiracy.

Me? I've known for almost 20 years that cannabis was safe, the government lied to us and that people would find out and it would be legal within a decade or two. The conspiracy was keeping such a useful plant illegal. Once the internet came out and people began educating themselves, there is nothing they can really do to hold it back. Cannabis legalization is very much a grass roots movement, it's not some elitist conspiracy.
He doesn't appear to be the least bit interested in decriminalization.

dannno
04-10-2019, 05:26 PM
He doesn't appear to be the least bit interested in decriminalization.

He is against the entire war on drugs, including cannabis.


I’m against the drug war. I think we should let people do what they want to do.

-Tucker Carlson

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/tucker-carlson/579460/

Stratovarious
04-10-2019, 05:38 PM
He is against the entire war on drugs, including cannabis.



-Tucker Carlson

[/FONT]https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/tucker-carlson/579460/

Couldn't catch any of that in this video.

Glad to know though that he also says this*, but I can't be sure what he really believes after the video.

*''I’m against the drug war. I think we should let people do what they want to do. ''

dillo
04-10-2019, 05:59 PM
Probably the first time I disagreed and thought Tucker was being unreasonable at least for quite some time.

euphemia
04-10-2019, 06:07 PM
This is why you all should stop fighting for legalization. Anything you want to grow on your property and use is nothing government needs to say anything about. You all should be fighting for the elimination of all marijuana law. No involvement, no regulation, no permission, and no taxation.

For the record I have never used pot and don’t plan to.

Stratovarious
04-10-2019, 06:43 PM
Millage may vary.
Everyone's body is different, I have known some heavy users whose mental faculties were affected.

That is absolute FACT.
I know this from experience with a family member, pot had his life in near ruin, a veritable vegetable,
at some point he straightened up ,not sure why.
Then a girlfriend (wife now of many years) put the fear of God into him, he finished school and became
extremely successful in business and with family.

Still, my contention is that everyone should be free to make dumb or smart decisions, it should never be
left to the government to decide what is best for us.

nikcers
04-10-2019, 06:51 PM
love Tucker, but does he still believe this blsht , or has he finally woken up.

I think Pot is a complete waste of time, but there should be no drug laws.

It seems like he thinks that the left wants to tax it to pay for socialism and create bigger government and basically turn people into useful idiots. I think that is why be thinks it was better before legalization because of what legalization subsidizes. This is where a lot of people who are conservative chose the lesser of two evils because the talking point at the time was it is the only path to legalization so we can stop putting people in jail and destroying their lives. Then again Tucker did criticize Trump for signing legislation to commute drug sentences a few days ago.

Stratovarious
04-10-2019, 06:59 PM
It seems like he thinks that the left wants to tax it to pay for socialism and create bigger government and basically turn people into useful idiots. I think that is why be thinks it was better before legalization because of what legalization subsidizes. This is where a lot of people who are conservative chose the lesser of two evils because the talking point at the time was it is the only path to legalization so we can stop putting people in jail and destroying their lives. Then again Tucker did criticize Trump for signing legislation to commute drug sentences a few days ago.
IMV the path to legalization is the repeal of unconstitutional laws that made it illegal period.

dillo
04-11-2019, 03:32 PM
To quote the great Clarence Thomas

Respondents Diane Monson and Angel Raich use marijuana that has never been bought or sold, that has never crossed state lines, and that has had no demonstrable effect on the national market for marijuana. If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause, then it can regulate virtually anything—and the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers.

Respondent's local cultivation and consumption of marijuana is not "Commerce ... among the several States."

[...]

Certainly no evidence from the founding suggests that "commerce" included the mere possession of a good or some personal activity that did not involve trade or exchange for value. In the early days of the Republic, it would have been unthinkable that Congress could prohibit the local cultivation, possession, and consumption of marijuana.

[...]

If the Federal Government can regulate growing a half-dozen cannabis plants for personal consumption (not because it is interstate commerce, but because it is inextricably bound up with interstate commerce), then Congress' Article I powers – as expanded by the Necessary and Proper Clause – have no meaningful limits. Whether Congress aims at the possession of drugs, guns, or any number of other items, it may continue to "appropria[te] state police powers under the guise of regulating commerce."

[...]

If the majority is to be taken seriously, the Federal Government may now regulate quilting bees, clothes drives, and potluck suppers throughout the 50 States. This makes a mockery of Madison's assurance to the people of New York that the "powers delegated" to the Federal Government are "few and defined", while those of the States are "numerous and indefinite."

emphasis on the bold being mine

enhanced_deficit
04-12-2019, 05:55 PM
This if confirmed as non-fakenews would drill a hole in theories that Tucker was a libertarian-neocon.

Anti Globalist
04-12-2019, 06:11 PM
I'm more for decriminalization than legalization.

Grandmastersexsay
04-12-2019, 06:25 PM
I'm more for decriminalization than legalization.

Why?

jct74
06-05-2019, 08:38 PM
Tucker says Republicans (?) want to make it easier for your kids to smoke weed, because hey "freedom". And Democrats are in total agreement.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djv_neI6n_4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djv_neI6n_4



My question is, what the heck is Tucker smoking lately?

nikcers
06-05-2019, 08:41 PM
Yeah I think Tucker doesn't care about freedom and liberty the way he joked about it on his show. I can't take anything seriously he says anymore now.

RestorationOfLiberty
06-05-2019, 08:43 PM
What happened to Tucker? He sounds like a nutjob in this video and seems to have abandoned his libertarian principles.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDvQsfQvS4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDvQsfQvS4Y



Well if it is Tucker, why not let the marxist voters smoke themselves stupid?

r3volution 3.0
06-05-2019, 08:55 PM
Yeah I think Tucker doesn't care about freedom and liberty the way he jokeed about it on his show. I can't take anything seriously he says anymore now.

Tucker isn't a small government person, never has been.

He's an economically illiterate, vaguely socially conservative TV character who says nice things about the GOP in exchange for money.

nikcers
06-05-2019, 08:56 PM
Tucker Carlson pretends to care about the opioid crisis even though CBD could help people actually get off opioids. That tells you right there he doesn't really care about people he just wants to pander to people who care about the opioid crisis.

nikcers
06-05-2019, 08:57 PM
Tucker isn't a small government person, never has been.

He's an economically illiterate, vaguely socially conservative TV character who says nice things about the GOP in exchange for money.

Yeah but I watched some interviews recently where he was being anti war and I had some hopes but his whole perspective on the role of government is upside down. Tucker Carlson wants a king kind of like you.

Dr.3D
06-05-2019, 09:05 PM
Why?

Typically, legalization means government control and regulation, whereas decriminalization means, no government control or regulation at all.

Drugs should be decriminalized. It should be none of the business of government what people wish to ingest into their own bodies.

r3volution 3.0
06-05-2019, 09:07 PM
Yeah but I watched some interviews recently where he was being anti war and I had some hopes but his whole perspective on the role of government is upside down.

He is fairly anti-war, I'll give him that.

But he's also a violent opponent of the market economy and individual liberty.

...and, even on war, he rarely criticizes the current (GOP) adminstration's policies.

...kind of like how the Dems criticized Bush's wars (until Obama arrived and did the exact same thing, at which point the cat got their tongues).


Tucker Carlson wants a king kind of like you.

...?

He's constantly bitching about how we don't have "true democracy."

Apparently, in his view (or script), the problem is that the illiterate rabble don't have enough influence.

This is why, for instance, the government hasn't yet created a Dept. of Social Media to regulate Tucker's arch-enemies..

nikcers
06-05-2019, 09:14 PM
He is fairly anti-war, I'll give him that.

But he's also a violent opponent of the market economy and individual liberty.

...and, even on war, he rarely criticizes the current (GOP) adminstration's policies.

...kind of like how the Dems criticized Bush's wars (until Obama arrived and did the exact same thing, at which point the cat got their tongues).



...?

He's constantly bitching about how we don't have "true democracy."

Apparently, in his view (or script), the problem is that the illiterate rabble don't have enough influence.

This is why, for instance, the government hasn't yet created a Dept. of Social Media to regulate Tucker's arch-enemies..

Maybe he just wants people to vote for a king, He wants people not to want to be free, that's why he advocates against liberty.

r3volution 3.0
06-05-2019, 09:24 PM
Maybe he just wants people to vote for a king

Given his regular paeans to democracy, and claims that the lack of it is the cause of all our problems, I can't imagine why you'd think that.


He wants people not to want to be free, that's why he advocates against liberty.

FOX pays good money for people to advocate against liberty, without appearing to do so; I'd say he's just supplying demand.

jct74
06-05-2019, 09:35 PM
Tucker says Republicans (?) want to make it easier for your kids to smoke weed, because hey "freedom". And Democrats are in total agreement.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djv_neI6n_4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djv_neI6n_4



My question is, what the heck is Tucker smoking lately?


I'm still trying to figure out what Tucker is talking about when he says the Republican elites are "resolutely libertarian" and they support cannabis legalization. It is true that a majority of Republican voters now support legalization, but among Republican politicians it is still pretty rare and especially within the Republican "leadership class". I don't know what he is referring to... maybe Mitch McConnell's newfound love for hemp but that is a totally different thing, lol.

nikcers
06-05-2019, 09:42 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what Tucker is talking about when he says the Republican elites are "resolutely libertarian" and they support cannabis legalization. It is true that a majority of Republican voters now support legalization, but among Republican politicians it is still pretty rare and especially within the Republican "leadership class". I don't know what he is referring to... maybe Mitch McConnell's newfound love for hemp but that is a totally different thing, lol.

I think he is talking about John Boehner and all of the people investing into Marijuana because its a huge industry that is helping the economy grow and giving people jobs and Tucker Carlson obviously loves people to be homeless.

jct74
06-05-2019, 11:26 PM
I think he is talking about John Boehner and all of the people investing into Marijuana because its a huge industry that is helping the economy grow and giving people jobs and Tucker Carlson obviously loves people to be homeless.

yeah he could be talking about Boehner but someone should tell Tucker he hasn't been in office since 2015, lol.



Typically, legalization means government control and regulation, whereas decriminalization means, no government control or regulation at all.

Drugs should be decriminalized. It should be none of the business of government what people wish to ingest into their own bodies.


That's not how the term is most commonly understood though, at least in the context of cannabis policy. Cannabis in considered to be decriminalized in 15 states but I guarantee you are less free in those states than ones that have legalized. In most legalization states you can grow at least a half dozen plants in your home but in a lot of decriminalization states growing only a few plants still counts as a felony.

dannno
06-06-2019, 12:29 AM
Typically, legalization means government control and regulation, whereas decriminalization means, no government control or regulation at all.

Drugs should be decriminalized. It should be none of the business of government what people wish to ingest into their own bodies.

Actually in most cases, decriminalization refers to decriminalization of possession. That can mean a fine for possession as opposed to jail time and a criminal record, but still mean hard time for growing or selling.

Legalizing is a bit better in that sense, because possession, growing and distribution all have legal channels and no fines or criminal penalties for adults who possess it.

Total decriminalization of the plant would be awesome, but that is not what cannabis decriminalization typically refers to.

AngryCanadian
06-06-2019, 12:43 AM
Tucker is actually right on this issue.
When junkies started using the dopes they have no self control on them, they become addicted, this is becoming a problem now in Canada and in some cities in Canada. With Junkies walking on the streets and tripping down. During day time.

Warrior_of_Freedom
06-06-2019, 12:55 AM
Sometimes I think I'm the last person in the U.S. that doesn't smoke anything, drinks maybe once a year, and takes no prescription meds.

Swordsmyth
06-06-2019, 01:09 AM
Sometimes I think I'm the last person in the U.S. that doesn't smoke anything, drinks maybe once a year, and takes no prescription meds.
There are millions of us Mormons, you'd fit right in.;)

Origanalist
06-06-2019, 01:28 AM
Tucker is actually right on this issue.
When junkies started using the dopes they have no self control on them, they become addicted, this is becoming a problem now in Canada and in some cities in Canada. With Junkies walking on the streets and tripping down. During day time.

Thankfully drunks never did that.

nikcers
06-06-2019, 05:47 AM
Tucker is actually right on this issue.
When junkies started using the dopes they have no self control on them, they become addicted, this is becoming a problem now in Canada and in some cities in Canada. With Junkies walking on the streets and tripping down. During day time.

Marijuana is less addicting than caffeine, it only affects you for half as long, and just because you smoke marijuana it doesn't make you more likely to do another drug except for the mindset of wow this didn't hurt me I wonder if the government is lying about the other stuff too.

You could stop that from happening instantly, over night, by being honest and not classifying it the same as cocaine, or heroin. Just because you don't approve of someone doing something that doesn't mean you should put them in jail for it, and ruin their lives more or shut down industries that are helping local economies grow. In my city (Las Vegas) it has been a boon to the economy.

President Obama directed people to stop going to Las Vegas, Trump had a mass shooting in Las Vegas, it has been a blessing for us. All of these empty businesses all over town, empty buldings are now full of people working, that would not have a job otherwise. Places in town that have had empty buildings for 5 and even 10 years are opening up.

nikcers
06-06-2019, 06:15 AM
double

nikcers
06-06-2019, 06:16 AM
double

nikcers
06-06-2019, 08:40 AM
yeah he could be talking about Boehner but someone should tell Tucker he hasn't been in office since 2015, lol.

Ex-Rep. Dana Rohrabacher joins 'Craigslist of weed' board Roll Call (https://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/ex-rep-dana-rohrabacher-joins-board-of-craigslist-of-weed) · 6 days ago

Federal Marijuana Legalization Coming Before 2022, Says Ex-Rep. Rohrabacher
http://m.tmz.com/#!2019/06/05/marijuana-legalization-united-states-2022-weed-cannabis-dana-rohrabacher/ TMZ · 16 hours ago

Brian4Liberty
06-06-2019, 09:33 AM
There are millions of us Mormons, you'd fit right in.;)

Prescription pill use (and abuse) is the accepted alternative to alcohol for LDS members,

Swordsmyth
06-06-2019, 01:52 PM
Prescription pill use (and abuse) is the accepted alternative to alcohol for LDS members,

It's not supposed to be but yes we have that problem as bad as the rest of society, I saw a story the other day that said something like 2/3rds of Americans were on prescription meds within the last year.

pcosmar
06-06-2019, 02:03 PM
It's not supposed to be but yes we have that problem as bad as the rest of society, I saw a story the other day that said something 2/3rds of Americans were on prescription meds within the last year.

Big Pharmakeia..

see;sorcery

nobody's_hero
06-06-2019, 02:17 PM
He may be on to something. Legalization and government involvement aside, Marx once said "Religion is the opiate of the masses."

What then would cannabinoids and opiates be?


You gotta stay aware of what's going on. Doping yourself up doesn't help.

nikcers
06-06-2019, 02:33 PM
He may be on to something. Legalization and government involvement aside, Marx once said "Religion is the opiate of the masses."

What then would cannabinoids and opiates be?


You gotta stay aware of what's going on. Doping yourself up doesn't help.

So we should ban reilgion, got it.

donnay
06-06-2019, 02:37 PM
He may be on to something. Legalization and government involvement aside, Marx once said "Religion is the opiate of the masses."

What then would cannabinoids and opiates be?


You gotta stay aware of what's going on. Doping yourself up doesn't help.

Especially when we know former politicians like John Boehner and Bill Weld stand to make millions off legalization of cannabis.

Ender
06-06-2019, 03:33 PM
Cannabis is NOT dangerous.

The only reason it is illegal is because Big Corps talked DC into making it evil because they didn't want to compete with hemp, which is the most amazing plant on the earth. It makes materials stronger than steel, oil, cotton, canvas, etc. and does not destroy the soil. Hemp is NOT a drug, so calling it's sister plant by it's Mexican nickname "marijuana" made it sound "evil" to the populace & everyone fell for the lie.

The most dangerous thing marijuana does is make people laugh a lot. And, no, I don't indulge but I know people who have been saved by it.

nikcers
06-06-2019, 03:38 PM
Cannabis is NOT dangerous.

The only reason it is illegal is because Big Corps talked DC into making it evil because they didn't want to compete with hemp, which is the most amazing plant on the earth. It makes materials stronger than steel, oil, cotton, canvas, etc. and does not destroy the soil. Hemp is NOT a drug, so calling it's sister plant by it's Mexican nickname "marijuana" made it sound "evil" to the populace & everyone fell for the lie.

The most dangerous thing marijuana does is make people laugh a lot. And, no, I don't indulge but I know people who have been saved by it.

A lot of the reason why its illegal is because the deep state didn't want to lose funding or have their budgets cut. Being anti legalization is basically like being pro deep state for some people. For other people it has something to do with Lumber, someone on reddit admitted they were against Ron Paul because a corporation paid them to campaign against Ron paul because legalization would make their industry lose profits.

pcosmar
06-06-2019, 05:06 PM
Cannabis is NOT dangerous.

The only reason it is illegal is because Big Corps talked DC into making it evil because they didn't want to compete with hemp, which is the most amazing plant on the earth. It makes materials stronger than steel, oil, cotton, canvas, etc. and does not destroy the soil. Hemp is NOT a drug, so calling it's sister plant by it's Mexican nickname "marijuana" made it sound "evil" to the populace & everyone fell for the lie.

The most dangerous thing marijuana does is make people laugh a lot. And, no, I don't indulge but I know people who have been saved by it.

This^^

Cannabis is non toxic.
As in,,, it contains no Toxin..

Intoxication requires a Toxin. Cannabis does not therefore intoxicate..

The Euphoric sensation is the healing of the Brain.. Increased Synaptic Response.. etc..

The very opposite of Dumbing Down.
and it also prevents the Later Dumbing down of Alzheimer.

so the only dumb ones are opposing it.. People who can not tell the difference between Poison and NOT POISON.

kahless
06-06-2019, 05:45 PM
Legalization = Loss of revenue for local, county and state governments, police departments, lawyers, judges, etc. A significant demographic that would trample your rights to protect their jobs, salaries and/or pensions.

Anti Globalist
06-06-2019, 06:01 PM
Sometimes I think I'm the last person in the U.S. that doesn't smoke anything, drinks maybe once a year, and takes no prescription meds.
You're not alone. I'm pretty much the same way.

nobody's_hero
06-06-2019, 07:19 PM
So we should ban reilgion, got it.


He may be on to something. Legalization and government involvement aside, Marx once said "Religion is the opiate of the masses."

What then would cannabinoids and opiates be?


You gotta stay aware of what's going on. Doping yourself up doesn't help.

Reiterated. What I'm saying is that I've never seen anyone smoke a joint and suddenly be invigorated to fight against tyranny. I think a lot of people get high/drunk/wasted because they don't want to (or can't) deal with problems. It's one thing to have your S%*^ together and want to get high. It's another thing if you want to get high instead of getting your S^*@ together. Nothing I am saying is to be construed as support for banning the stuff. I would approach it more like a friend giving advice.

pcosmar
06-06-2019, 08:42 PM
Reiterated.

Why,,

Phuck the Dumb Shit..

Cannabis is not an Opioid... and in Every place that cannabis has been legalized so far... Opioid scripts drop,,,deaths drop,, by 25% according to statistics..

It is far healthier pain relief without debilitating side effects.
Came as a surprise to me too.. and cut my daily Aspirin intake to 0.

It is a Gift from God.. Prohibition and Propaganda opposing this gift are Pure Evil.. and the results are easy to see..

Oh Yeah,, Phuck You.. Some of us have been in this fight since the 70s.

nikcers
06-07-2019, 03:42 AM
Tucker isn't a small government person, never has been.

He's an economically illiterate, vaguely socially conservative TV character who says nice things about the GOP in exchange for money.

His defense of free speech in the age of censorship is pretty patriotic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86qD8CINGM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86qD8CINGM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86qD8CINGM&)

specsaregood
06-07-2019, 05:12 AM
You could stop that from happening instantly, over night, by being honest and not classifying it the same as cocaine, or heroin.

Wait, whats wrong with cocaine?

nikcers
06-07-2019, 05:32 AM
Wait, whats wrong with cocaine?

It's far more damaging to your brain because it permanently rewrites the reward centers of your brain so that everyday life and experience is dulled and people only feel like they are alive when they are on it. Long term effects are obsession over until you stop caring for other things in your life and people you like. I call it the psychopath drug because it makes you into one.

Superfluous Man
06-07-2019, 06:07 AM
It's far more damaging to your brain because it permanently rewrites the reward centers of your brain so that everyday life and experience is dulled and people only feel like they are alive when they are on it. Long term effects are obsession over until you stop caring for other things in your life and people you like. I call it the psychopath drug because it makes you into one.

Is that unique to cocaine? That sounds like what all addictions do.

nikcers
06-07-2019, 06:12 AM
Is that unique to cocaine? That sounds like what all addictions do.

As far as I know Cocaine and alcohol are the only things you can die from the withdrawals. I've never had an alcoholic offer to help me look for money they stole from me though.

nikcers
06-07-2019, 06:19 AM
Cocaine becomes your one and only love in life, when you are off it you are heartbroken its like everything you love dying and you never being able to see it again, I think its why people write good music on cocaine... Just imagine what people do every day for the things they love most in life.

specsaregood
06-07-2019, 06:23 AM
Cocaine becomes your one and only love in life, when you are off it you are heartbroken its like everything you love dying and you never being able to see it again, I think its why people write good music on cocaine... Just imagine what people do every day for the things they love most in life.

Dunno, I've known potheads that are exactly the same way though, its an obsession and all they care about.

nikcers
06-07-2019, 06:27 AM
Dunno, I've known potheads that are exactly the same way though, its an obsession and all they care about.

I've known lots of people who quit smoking pot because it affects their life. Sometimes they just can't afford it, they don't go through the same sort of withdrawals at all. It is a different chemical, even with cocaine it can vary between different people kind of like how stimulants affect people with ADHD differently. I have seen lots of people who have used cocaine and they talk about it like it was a past lover, I have even seen the cognitive decline. You can argue there is a temporary decline in reaction time but I have not seen any sort of cogntitive decline in even long term marijuana smokers. It is literally less addicting than caffieine.

mrsat_98
06-07-2019, 06:30 AM
What happened to Tucker? He sounds like a nutjob in this video and seems to have abandoned his libertarian principles.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDvQsfQvS4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDvQsfQvS4Y

ICYMI https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm

a kagillion video's here. https://tinyurl.com/y3mw5jm2

I think his tactic is described in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

nikcers
06-07-2019, 06:32 AM
I have seen people be self destructive with marijuana but those people tend to have addictive personalities who could be self destructive with anything even food, or sky diving, and even than those people would be better off a lot of times smoking something that is known to be not very harmful than drinking or smoking tobacco.

specsaregood
06-07-2019, 06:36 AM
I've known lots of people who quit smoking pot because it affects their life. Sometimes they just can't afford it, they don't go through the same sort of withdrawals at all. It is a different chemical, even with cocaine it can vary between different people kind of like how stimulants affect people with ADHD differently. I have seen lots of people who have used cocaine and they talk about it like it was a past lover, I have even seen the cognitive decline. You can argue there is a temporary decline in reaction time but I have not seen any sort of cogntitive decline in even long term marijuana smokers. It is literally less addicting than caffieine.

Have you ever done cocaine?

nikcers
06-07-2019, 06:39 AM
Have you ever done cocaine?

Nope, just watched a few personal friends lose their family because of it. It became an obsession for them they never got over even after not taking it for months or years.

specsaregood
06-07-2019, 07:00 AM
Nope, just watched a few personal friends lose their family because of it. It became an obsession for them they never got over even after not taking it for months or years.

Fair enough.


I have seen lots of people who have used cocaine and they talk about it like it was a past lover
She sure is one hot wench, tough to forget.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq344ks1ieg

nikcers
06-07-2019, 07:06 AM
Marijuana more than anything I think changes your perception of time which can make you look at things from a different perspective. This perspective change I think makes you look at things in a deeper way. Things like your life or even something bad happening can seem insignificant. It can make for a bad experience or a good experience depending on your state of mind or what you are doing. If you are watching a really good movie and the movie is 2 hours it can be like a 10 hour movie that is really good. It can also make you step back away from the little things in life and notice that there are bigger problems that need to be fixed in society. It is really helpful for depression, pain, nausua and can help with a lot of different withdrawal symptoms that other drugs have, so it can sometimes help you quit smoking tobacco or drinking alcohol like it did me.

Origanalist
06-07-2019, 07:14 AM
Marijuana more than anything I think changes your perception of time which can make you look at things from a different perspective. This perspective change I think makes you look at things in a deeper way. Things like your life or even something bad happening can seem insignificant. It can make for a bad experience or a good experience depending on your state of mind or what you are doing. If you are watching a really good movie and the movie is 2 hours it can be like a 10 hour movie that is really good. It can also make you step back away from the little things in life and notice that there are bigger problems that need to be fixed in society. It is really helpful for depression, pain, nausua and can help with a lot of different withdrawal symptoms that other drugs have, so it can sometimes help you quit smoking tobacco or drinking alcohol like it did me.

Oh, another pot snob.

specsaregood
06-07-2019, 07:17 AM
Oh, another pot snob.

Didn't you know, pot will save the world!

nikcers
06-07-2019, 07:17 AM
Oh, another pot snob.

LOL if you don't want to take what I said seriously because I have used it to quit drinking alcohol or smoking tobacco that's sort of dumb. It changes your perspective of time in the same way as when you get older time seems to pass by faster.

Origanalist
06-07-2019, 07:20 AM
LOL if you don't want to take what I said seriously because I have used it to quit drinking alcohol or smoking cigarrettes that's sort of dumb. It changes your perspective of time in the same way as when you get older time seems to pass by faster.

Well, there really isn't much anyone can tell me about drugs I don't already know. But thanks for the good intentions, lol.

specsaregood
06-07-2019, 07:22 AM
It changes your perspective of time in the same way as when you get older time seems to pass by faster.

Just wondering, about how old are you?

nikcers
06-07-2019, 07:23 AM
Well, there really isn't much anyone can tell me about drugs I don't already know. But thanks for the good intentions, lol.

I only say it because the reefer madness propaghanda has indoctrinated so many people because so many special interests make money off marijuana. Probably the most positive thing I saw it do is when my dad was on chemo therapy he could smoke it and actually eat and enjoy meals, he didn't have to go on a feeding tube.

nikcers
06-07-2019, 07:25 AM
Just wondering, about how old are you?

31

Origanalist
06-07-2019, 07:27 AM
I only say it because the reefer madness propaghanda has indoctrinated so many people because so many special interests make money off marijuana. Probably the most positive thing I saw it do is when my dad was on chemo therapy he could smoke it and actually eat and enjoy meals, he didn't have to go on a feeding tube.

I have nothing against it, I just get a bit amused when people sing the praises of it while condemning everything else. I have a daughter that does that, not much different than someone who drinks condemning pot smokers.

nikcers
06-07-2019, 07:29 AM
I have nothing against it, I just get a bit amused when people sing the praises of it while condemning everything else. I have a daughter that does that, not much different than someone who drinks condemning pot smokers.

I don't condemn other stuff, I just speak to my experience and what I have seen of it. I don't mean to even sing it praises, I posted a critical comment on how its bad for people who have addicting personalities, even though I think it could be a much better addiction than even excercise. I have seen people get addicted to excercise and it was bad for their health.

Working Poor
06-07-2019, 07:32 AM
I think pot should be legal along with every other so called drug. To me having to have any type of license or permission to be able to possess it makes it not really legal. So in essence making it so called legal is very much a socialist program.

nikcers
06-07-2019, 08:37 AM
Fair enough.


She sure is one hot wench, tough to forget.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5ybPnY1Ehc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5ybPnY1Ehc

pcosmar
06-07-2019, 09:56 AM
I have seen people be self destructive with marijuana but those people tend to have addictive personalities who could be self destructive with anything even food, or sky diving, and even than those people would be better off a lot of times smoking something that is known to be not very harmful than drinking or smoking tobacco.

Oh,,that was me..

Depression and suicidal tenancies... Though I stopped trying to kill myself in 1980... and everything else started trying.

You are 100% correct about Coke.. As it matches my real world experience.. and I worked for a couple long term Coke users. I have avoided it personally because I liked the effect too much.. saw the danger..

I have been an occasional Cannabis user since the 70s,, and a regular user for a few years.
and though I may still enjoy an occasional beer... I am no longer drowning my Depression with Alcohol..

It certainly should not be Scheduled 1,, and as a "drug" I consider it between Aspirin and Ginger Root.

nobody's_hero
06-07-2019, 02:36 PM
Why,,

Phuck the Dumb $#@!..

Cannabis is not an Opioid... and in Every place that cannabis has been legalized so far... Opioid scripts drop,,,deaths drop,, by 25% according to statistics..

It is far healthier pain relief without debilitating side effects.
Came as a surprise to me too.. and cut my daily Aspirin intake to 0.

It is a Gift from God.. Prohibition and Propaganda opposing this gift are Pure Evil.. and the results are easy to see..

Oh Yeah,, Phuck You.. Some of us have been in this fight since the 70s.

You guys need to learn to read. Why do you suppose I split opioids and cannabinoids? I KNOW they aren't the same thing.


What then would cannabinoids and opiates be?

pcosmar
06-07-2019, 02:50 PM
He may be on to something. Legalization and government involvement aside, Marx once said "Religion is the opiate of the masses."

What then would cannabinoids and opiates be?


You gotta stay aware of what's going on. Doping yourself up doesn't help.

Lets try that with the WHOLE STUPID quote then.

What would they be??

and quoting Marx for effect.

How about you stop being such a Phucking DOPE.
Cannabis is a Gift from God with still unknown potential.. It is food, Medicine , Clothing and had industrial applications..

It is Beneficial for Human Consumption. and 100% Non Toxic.

And is proven to be beneficial for the Brain.. you dope.

nobody's_hero
06-07-2019, 03:03 PM
Lets try that with the WHOLE STUPID quote then.

What would they be??

and quoting Marx for effect.

How about you stop being such a Phucking DOPE.
Cannabis is a Gift from God with still unknown potential.. It is food, Medicine , Clothing and had industrial applications..

It is Beneficial for Human Consumption. and 100% Non Toxic.

And is proven to be beneficial for the Brain.. you dope.

If you want to believe that, fine.

dannno
06-07-2019, 03:05 PM
Doping yourself up doesn't help.


Cannabis stimulates the regeneration and growth of new brain cells, so whatever your goal is it sounds like you should probably smoke more weed.

dannno
06-07-2019, 03:06 PM
If you want to believe that, fine.

"If you want to believe the sky is blue, fine."

nobody's_hero
06-07-2019, 03:09 PM
Cannabis stimulates the regeneration and growth of new brain cells, so whatever your goal is it sounds like you should probably smoke more weed.

I mean, any time the body takes damage it tries to repair itself, or limit the damage.. You're probably not wrong, in a way.

dannno
06-07-2019, 03:10 PM
Endocannabinoids: A Promising Impact for Traumatic Brain Injuryhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5314139/



Cannabis Therapeutics and the Future of Neurologyhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6200872/

dannno
06-07-2019, 03:12 PM
I mean, any time the body takes damage it tries to repair itself, or limit the damage.. You're probably not wrong, in a way.

Cannabis doesn't damage the brain, science has found it is the opposite: a neuroprotectant.

Alcohol damages the brain.

Lemme guess.. you drink?

pcosmar
06-07-2019, 03:14 PM
If you want to believe that, fine.

Science is proving it with every test.

https://www.sciencealert.com/marijuana-compound-thc-removes-toxic-alzheimer-protein-from-brain

As far as a "drug" it is about the same level as Caffeine.

nobody's_hero
06-07-2019, 03:15 PM
Cannabis doesn't damage the brain, science has found it is the opposite: a neuroprotectant.

Alcohol damages the brain.

Lemme guess.. you drink?

No. I had a father who did. I determined that I wasn't going to be the guy who focused on vices to avoid responsibilities.

pcosmar
06-07-2019, 03:17 PM
Alcohol damages the brain.

Lemme guess.. you drink?

Quoting Marx as an argument ,,, a few drinks too many.

pcosmar
06-07-2019, 03:20 PM
No. I had a father who did. I determined that I wasn't going to be the guy who focused on vices to avoid responsibilities.

It has nothing to do with avoiding responsibilities.

Why do People who are Totally Ignorant of a Subject insist on arguing it?

if you can't blame alcohol,, what do you blame your utter stupidity on?

dannno
06-07-2019, 03:25 PM
No. I had a father who did. I determined that I wasn't going to be the guy who focused on vices to avoid responsibilities.

Do you realize that alcohol and cannabis have completely different, almost polar opposite effects on people?

I'm not saying you have to do it, I'm just saying you should probably be less judgmental of those who do.

Toking herb doesn't make you stupid, it makes you more open minded, creative and better able to solve problems. It increases your body's ability to experience various sensational inputs.

Drinking doesn't make you more open minded, it can make you more sociable, though. I enjoy alcohol on occasion, usually at night. In moderation. I don't use it to avoid responsibilities. That is what alcoholics do.. people who have to drink all day, or when they drink they have to drink to excess. Alchohol is an intoxicant and should be treated as such. However it moderation it can also have longterm health benefits. Cannabis is not an intoxicant, because, as pcosmar likes to say, it is not toxic to the body in any way, shape or form.

nobody's_hero
06-07-2019, 03:25 PM
It has nothing to do with avoiding responsibilities.

Why do People who are Totally Ignorant of a Subject insist on arguing it?

if you can't blame alcohol,, what do you blame your utter stupidity on?

Look. I see this is a touchy subject for you. We can at least agree that government shouldn't ban the stuff.

pcosmar
06-07-2019, 03:32 PM
Look. I see this is a touchy subject for you. We can at least agree that government shouldn't ban the stuff.

Should have never... The entirety of Laws was based in Lies..

The truth is so far opposite,, and should be vigorously defended.

Negativity toward use does nothing to heal those most in need. and there are many.

yeah,, a little touchy.

r3volution 3.0
06-11-2019, 07:25 PM
His defense of free speech in the age of censorship is pretty patriotic.

A private enterprise restricting access to its own property isn't censorship in the sense relevant to the 1st Amendment.

...which applies only to government action.

It's an exercise of property rights.

But I guess respect for property rights is the old libertarianism.

The new libertarianism doesn't let such silly anachronisms stand in the way of true progress, does it?

nikcers
06-11-2019, 07:34 PM
A private enterprise restricting access to its own property isn't censorship in the sense relevant to the 1st Amendment.

...which applies only to government action.

It's an exercise of property rights.

But I guess respect for property rights is the old libertarianism.

The new libertarianism doesn't let such silly anachronisms stand in the way of true progress, does it?


I am not like most libertarians in that I think my data or my communications is my speech. They lobbied for net neutrality and the right to have a platform that they can't get sued for what people post on it, I think its more than fair for me to not get censored. Especially since they are shadowbanning people who buy ads from them, I think that is fraud.

r3volution 3.0
06-11-2019, 07:51 PM
I am not like most libertarians in that I think my data or my communications is my speech.

Whether FB users' submissions of data to the platform is "speech" for 1st Amendment purposes isn't relevant.

The 1st Amendment does not apply to FB; nothing FB does could possibly violate the 1st Amendment.


They lobbied for net neutrality and the right to have a platform that they can't get sued for what people post on it

Why do you think they should be liable for what people post on their platform?


I think its more than fair for me to not get censored.

Again, you're not getting censored in the 1st Amendment sense.


Especially since they are shadowbanning people who buy ads from them, I think that is fraud.

Then sue them for fraud (as opposed to calling for the government to crush them because they use their property in a way that displeases you).

nikcers
06-11-2019, 08:13 PM
Whether FB users' submissions of data to the platform is "speech" for 1st Amendment purposes isn't relevant.

The 1st Amendment does not apply to FB; nothing FB does could possibly violate the 1st Amendment.



Why do you think they should be liable for what people post on their platform?



Again, you're not getting censored in the 1st Amendment sense.



Then sue them for fraud (as opposed to calling for the government to crush them because they use their property in a way that displeases you).

Electronic communications is speech, especially in this century. People text eachother at the dinner table.

r3volution 3.0
06-11-2019, 08:18 PM
Electronic communications is speech, especially in this century. People text eachother at the dinner table.

I didn't say it wasn't speech for 1st Amendment purposes.

I said it doesn't matter, since none of this has anything to do with the 1st Amendment.

nikcers
06-11-2019, 08:25 PM
I didn't say it wasn't speech for 1st Amendment purposes.

I said it doesn't matter, since none of this has anything to do with the 1st Amendment.

This is getting pushed by the globalists that are not even a part of this country. They use foreign governments to lobby these companies by threatening to push them out of their market.

r3volution 3.0
06-11-2019, 08:26 PM
This is getting pushed by the globalists that are not even a part of this country. They use foreign governments to lobby these companies by threatening to push them out of their market.

Something something Deep State something something Globalists

Got it.

nikcers
06-11-2019, 08:29 PM
Something something Deep State something something Globalists

Got it.

Yeah because foreign governments don't meddle in our affairs. :clap:

r3volution 3.0
06-11-2019, 08:38 PM
Yeah because foreign governments don't meddle in our affairs. :clap:

Yea, I get the gist; you think FB is part of this shadowy cabal which you've come to blame for everything that's wrong in the world.

If that's your whole argument (which I guess it is since you didn't address any of the issues I raised), there's not much left to say.

I'll just ask this; if you don't trust FB (<-- evil cabal member), why do you trust the feds (<-- not evil cabal member?) to regulate FB?

nikcers
06-11-2019, 09:09 PM
Yea, I get the gist; you think FB is part of this shadowy cabal which you've come to blame for everything that's wrong in the world.

If that's your whole argument (which I guess it is since you didn't address any of the issues I raised), there's not much left to say.

I'll just ask this; if you don't trust FB (<-- evil cabal member), why do you trust the feds (<-- not evil cabal member?) to regulate FB?

I don't trust anyone, I just don't want to be kicked out of the debates. 2008 was the facebook election, 2012 was the tea party revolution that I actually found politics that cured my apathy. I found it on a bumper sticker that said google Ron Paul. 2016 was the twitter election. You can't pretend like people who aren't to the right of Obama aren't getting deplatformed everywhere. They attacked me at my work because of my political beliefs until I quit, they are going after people in real life. I don't think we will ever gain any sort of momentum if we get pushed into the dark web.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BhK3Lb8qgw

r3volution 3.0
06-11-2019, 09:47 PM
I don't trust anyone, I just don't want to be kicked out of the debates. 2008 was the facebook election, 2012 was the tea party revolution that I actually found politics that cured my apathy. I found it on a bumper sticker that said google Ron Paul. 2016 was the twitter election. You can't pretend like people who aren't to the right of Obama aren't getting deplatformed everywhere. They attacked me at my work because of my political beliefs until I quit, they are going after people in real life. I don't think we will ever gain any sort of momentum if we get pushed into the dark web.

State regulation of social media violates libertarian principles - this is not seriously debatable.

Now, if you want to do it anyway, in pursuit of some greater libertarian good (ends justify the means), that's fine.

I'm very amenable to that kind of logic.

However, in this case, I see no end to justify the means.

First, as I mentioned in the last post, there's no reason to think that a state regulated FB would be more libertarian-friendly than the current one.

Second, for the time being, FB is actually doing libertarians a favor by targeting the alt-right, who are by far our most serious political obstacle.

....because, unlike the Dems or "Establishment Republicans," they don't just compete, they also co-opt.

So, no, I'm not seeing any greater libertarian good that would justify the regulation of FB.

nikcers
06-11-2019, 09:51 PM
State regulation of social media violates libertarian principles - this is not seriously debatable.

Now, if you want to do it anyway, in pursuit of some greater libertarian good (ends justify the means), that's fine.

I'm very amenable to that kind of logic.

However, in this case, I see no end to justify the means.

First, as I mentioned in the last post, there's no reason to think that a state regulated FB would be more libertarian-friendly than the current one.

Second, for the time being, FB is actually doing libertarians a favor by targeting the alt-right, who are by far our most serious political obstacle.

....because, unlike the Dems or "Establishment Republicans," they don't just compete, they also co-opt.

So, no, I'm not seeing any greater libertarian good that would justify the regulation of FB.

I think you are wrong about who they are censoring. I don't think its just alt right people. I think its anyone who influences the elections, I base this off facebook censoring Rand Paul in 2016. When he was trending after the debates they took him off there.

r3volution 3.0
06-11-2019, 09:56 PM
I think you are wrong about who they are censoring. I don't think its just alt right people. I think its anyone who influences the elections, I base this off facebook censoring Rand Paul in 2016. When he was trending after the debates they took him off there.

I don't use FB (or any social media), so I'm going on second hand reports, but all I ever hear about is alt-right/conspiracy people getting targeted.

What's the story with Rand Paul (news to me), how did they censor him in 2016?

nikcers
06-11-2019, 10:17 PM
I don't use FB (or any social media), so I'm going on second hand reports, but all I ever hear about is alt-right/conspiracy people getting targeted.

What's the story with Rand Paul (news to me), how did they censor him in 2016?

Facebook would have trending topics and after the debates Rand Paul would be trending and they would remove him off the trending topics. They would use social media trending topics in the msm as a litmus test or to gauge who won the debate, or who people are talking about. It was essentially a shadow ban, people would talk about Rand Paul on facebook and they would make sure no one could see it. It only got leaked out because conservatives that worked for facebook blew the whistle and after that they started firing conservatives from places like facebook. it's happening all over the place and since they have all of our meta data they can go after anyone who is against their liberal agenda. They are shutting people up because they can't debate our ideas, its the very same reason why they kicked Ron Paul out of the debates censored him on the MSM and there was a meme that the only way you could find out who Ron Paul is was by googling him.

James_Madison_Lives
06-11-2019, 10:28 PM
Try it Tucker you might like it.

r3volution 3.0
06-11-2019, 10:33 PM
Facebook would have trending topics and after the debates Rand Paul would be trending and they would remove him off the trending topics. They would use social media trending topics in the msm as a litmus test or to gauge who won the debate, or who people are talking about. It was essentially a shadow ban, people would talk about Rand Paul on facebook and they would make sure no one could see it. It only got leaked out because conservatives that worked for facebook blew the whistle and after that they started firing conservatives from places like facebook. it's happening all over the place and since they have all of our meta data they can go after anyone who is against their liberal agenda. They are shutting people up because they can't debate our ideas, its the very same reason why they kicked Ron Paul out of the debates censored him on the MSM and there was a meme that the only way you could find out who Ron Paul is was by googling him.

They specifically mentioned Rand Paul?

...because, otherwise, it sounds like there's isn't much evidence that they actually did anything.

I wouldn't surprise me if they did, but couldn't it just be that he was trending, and then he wasn't?

Also, I'll ask again, what makes you think that the federal government (big fan of libertrians...) would regulate FB in our favor?

LibertyEagle
06-11-2019, 11:00 PM
Second, for the time being, FB is actually doing libertarians a favor by targeting the alt-right, who are by far our most serious political obstacle.


Also, I'll ask again, what makes you think that the federal government (big fan of libertrians...) would regulate FB in our favor?


There you go with that "our" word again. You have advocated for world government on this forum, so I'm not thinking "our" is the appropriate word for you to use. Just sayin'...

nikcers
06-11-2019, 11:16 PM
They specifically mentioned Rand Paul?

...because, otherwise, it sounds like there's isn't much evidence that they actually did anything.

I wouldn't surprise me if they did, but couldn't it just be that he was trending, and then he wasn't?

Also, I'll ask again, what makes you think that the federal government (big fan of libertrians...) would regulate FB in our favor?

They mentioned all types of people at the time,



Trending topics appear in the upper-right corner of the Facebook website, separate to the main news feed, and are said to be chosen to “help people discover current content that is both popular in the world and meaningful to them”.

Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News (https://gizmodo.com/former-facebook-workers-we-routinely-suppressed-conser-1775461006)

Facebook workers routinely suppressed news stories of interest to conservative readers from the social network’s influential “trending” news section, according to a former journalist who worked on the project. This individual says that workers prevented stories about the right-wing CPAC gathering, Mitt Romney, Rand Paul, and other conservative topics from appearing in the highly-influential section, even though they were organically trending among the site’s users.

nikcers
06-12-2019, 08:47 AM
1138434112040165379

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cliff_Sims/status/1138434112040165379

r3volution 3.0
06-12-2019, 12:16 PM
They mentioned all types of people at the time,

So he did mention Rand, good to know.

But you didn't answer my question about why a federally regulated FB would be better.

jmdrake
06-12-2019, 01:04 PM
What happened to Tucker? He sounds like a nutjob in this video and seems to have abandoned his libertarian principles.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDvQsfQvS4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDvQsfQvS4Y

This guy could have trumped Tucker with just one statistic. Since the legalization of recreational marijuana in Colorado, teen use of marijuana has gone DOWN (https://time.com/4378142/colorado-teen-marijuana-lower-after-legalization/)! There is a simple reason for that. Illegal pushers will sell to anyone. Dispensaries won't see to teens because they don't lose their license.