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osan
10-18-2018, 12:43 PM
I know there are many who refuse to vote because they don't want to be seen as participating in the tyrannical system. I fully empathize with this and agree, in principle.

I would love to live sufficient thousands of years to see humanity evolve into proper anarchists, where men respected one another, etc. That, I am sad to say, is unlikely.

That means we are left with what we have - a wholly screwed up "system". Given this, is holding to one's principles as he sits idly by watching the rest make all the decisions for him a wise course to take? I say no. While I fully endorse work toward better circumstances, the here-and-now reality that has been foisted upon us is equally important.

Some say that voting makes no difference at the individual level. While that can be argued as so, it can also be argued as nonsense. Place enough grains of sand in the bags and the camel's back breaks. This is observable reality.

Some further say that there is nothing "good" for which to vote. That may also be true, or not, depending on how one chooses to look at it. Regardless, even if all we have to vote for is a lesser evil, I say vote for it, lest the greater evil be foisted upon us. Does this not make some basic sense? I say it does.

So I am going to ask everyone here to say "fuck it" and go out and vote this November. If you love me, and you should because I am so damned impossibly lovable, then please do as I ask. I would suggest you vote Republican down the line. Why? Because as evil as some of those bastards are, they are several quanta less so than their Democrat counterparts. If we cannot vote in the good, we can at least deny the more evil access to the power that would be used to put the gronk on us with ever greater pinch.

I'm dead serious about this. You really have nothing to lose. Go vote, preferably R, and keep those commie bastards out of power.

The Rs are nothing to write home about, but at least they listen every once in a while, which is that much more than you will ever get from the left.

Please?

Thanks.

ETA: It now appears the Democrats may win the House. I would strongly suggest you all do your best to convince friends to get the hell out and do what is needed to stop this. We are no longer in a philosophical exercise. This is real-deal political warfare and you will choose one way or another - proactively or through the default of inaction.

As Dr. Paul is oft quoted, let it not be said we did nothing.

youngbuck
10-19-2018, 03:52 AM
I agree with you, same sentiment, and am encouraging other liberty minded folks to vote.

CaptUSA
10-19-2018, 05:20 AM
I would have never had guessed it... osan is Taylor Swift! :astonished:;):D


Seriously, though. I generally cast my lots. I don't expect it to accomplish much and I go about living my life. But I don't care about any parties - that's where they get you. Here's my method: Are there any liberty candidates? Cast a piece of sand for them. No liberty folks? Are there any incumbents? Cast a vote for their opponent. Running unopposed? Leave it blank. Is there a write-in line?? RON PAUL.

osan
10-19-2018, 05:45 AM
I would have never had guessed it... osan is Taylor Swift! :astonished:;):D


Seriously, though. I generally cast my lots. I don't expect it to accomplish much and I go about living my life. But I don't care about any parties - that's where they get you. Here's my method: Are there any liberty candidates? Cast a piece of sand for them. No liberty folks? Are there any incumbents? Cast a vote for their opponent. Running unopposed? Leave it blank. Is there a write-in line?? RON PAUL.

I would call that all good in "normal" times.

This time, however, I think things are so obviously bad (whether it's organic or all theater designed to corral us in a direction, I cannot say), that defending against what I see as the venomous ire of the "left" is perhaps a good idea at this point. I could be wrong, but what if I am not?

CaptUSA
10-19-2018, 05:55 AM
I would call that all good in "normal" times.

Lol. These are ALL normal times. Parties dividing, government growing, liberty receding... Been going on since I've been alive. The only thing "new" is the volume has been turned up thanks to the media's drive for ratings and need to compete against "social" media. Turn off the radio, TV, and computer and things pretty much look the same as always.

I vote against government - not the party. The parties are just a battle of who gets to control the power. I have no interest in their games.

Fear not, though... If it matters to you, my Senate and Representative incumbents are democrats.

jkr
10-19-2018, 07:42 AM
WIFE wont vote for repub senator in ohio because "they trying to pass a law disallowing pre existing conditions" and she is a breast cancer survivor


so that sucks

never mind CHARADE brown is a traitor with no fidelity to the constitution, she thinks the R's will kill her.

that is what were dealing with.

TheTexan
10-19-2018, 09:12 AM
This is a Great thread :cool:

The only way our oppressors will ever stop is if we get out there and vote!! Let's show them what we're made of this November :cool:

If you sit home this November not voting, I have to call you a coward. Afraid to make the hard choices, afraid to do what has to be done.

Get out there and vote like a man :cool:

TheTexan
10-19-2018, 09:25 AM
Be sure to also write "please" and "thank you" on your ballot for good luck!

timosman
10-19-2018, 09:30 AM
Be sure to also write "please" and "thank you" on your ballot for good luck!

-rep as this may invalidate the ballot. :D

jllundqu
10-19-2018, 11:03 AM
I know there are many who refuse to vote because they don't want to be seen as participating in the tyrannical system. I fully empathize with this and agree, in principle.

I would love to live sufficient thousands of years to see humanity evolve into proper anarchists, where men respected one another, etc. That, I am sad to say, is unlikely.

That means we are left with what we have - a wholly screwed up "system". Given this, is holding to one's principles as he sits idly by watching the rest make all the decisions for him a wise course to take? I say no. While I fully endorse work toward better circumstances, the here-and-now reality that has been foisted upon us is equally important.

Some say that voting makes no difference at the individual level. While that can be argued as so, it can also be argued as nonsense. Place enough grains of sand in the bags and the camel's back breaks. This is observable reality.

Some further say that there is nothing "good" for which to vote. That may also be true, or not, depending on how one chooses to look at it. Regardless, even if all we have to vote for is a lesser evil, I say vote for it, lest the greater evil be foisted upon us. Does this not make some basic sense? I say it does.

So I am going to ask everyone here to say "fuck it" and go out and vote this November. If you love me, and you should because I am so damned impossibly lovable, then please do as I ask. I would suggest you vote Republican down the line. Why? Because as evil as some of those bastards are, they are several quanta less so than their Democrat counterparts. If we cannot vote in the good, we can at least deny the more evil access to the power that would be used to put the gronk on us with ever greater pinch.

I'm dead serious about this. You really have nothing to lose. Go vote, preferably R, and keep those commie bastards out of power.

The Rs are nothing to write home about, but at least they listen every once in a while, which is that much more than you will ever get from the left.

Please?

Thanks.

Allow me to posit another theory.

What will move us toward more human freedom... truly? I am a firm believer that we need nothing short of some serious hard times for the ball to be moved even in inch in that direction. Therefore it follows that whatever will bring us closer to 'hard times' would be the most appropriate remedy to the current predicament, no? I say let the Ocasio Corez's and the Bernies and Antifa wield the levers of power for a while... I'm here in flyover country and we've been WAITING for such an event... this will end up with one of several likely scenarios: 1) Secession/Peaceful dissolution, 2) Civil Conflict 3) Fill in the blank.... I think any outcome is better than preserving the status quo.

To summarize: Let them come.

Jamesiv1
10-19-2018, 11:55 AM
Die hard. Vote harder.

timosman
10-19-2018, 11:57 AM
Allow me to posit another theory.

What will move us toward more human freedom... truly? I am a firm believer that we need nothing short of some serious hard times for the ball to be moved even in inch in that direction. Therefore it follows that whatever will bring us closer to 'hard times' would be the most appropriate remedy to the current predicament, no? I say let the Ocasio Corez's and the Bernies and Antifa wield the levers of power for a while... I'm here in flyover country and we've been WAITING for such an event... this will end up with one of several likely scenarios: 1) Secession/Peaceful dissolution, 2) Civil Conflict 3) Fill in the blank.... I think any outcome is better than preserving the status quo.

To summarize: Let them come.

8 years of Obama wasn't enough for you? :confused:

Swordsmyth
10-19-2018, 05:55 PM
WIFE wont vote for repub senator in ohio because "they trying to pass a law disallowing pre existing conditions" and she is a breast cancer survivor


so that sucks

never mind CHARADE brown is a traitor with no fidelity to the constitution, she thinks the R's will kill her.

that is what were dealing with.

You need to point out all the ways the Demoncrats want to kill her, start with death panels.

phill4paul
10-19-2018, 05:58 PM
Everything is pre-ordained and votes don't matter so I'm doing a straight RED ticket. It really doesn't matter, right? So what the fuck?

Anti Federalist
10-19-2018, 06:29 PM
Everything is pre-ordained and votes don't matter so I'm doing a straight RED ticket. It really doesn't matter, right? So what the fuck?

Just did the same thing on an absentee ballot this very afternoon, for the first time in, decades, IIRC.

Obviously "our" side, while having all the weapons, are clearly afraid to actually do anything with them in the face of gale force winds of tyranny, and since carefully husbanded and guarded weapons are no weapons at all, this move is the only self defense move I can think of.

Danke
10-19-2018, 06:34 PM
Gun restrictions have eased over the recent years because of Republicans.

TheTexan
10-19-2018, 06:52 PM
Just did the same thing on an absentee ballot this very afternoon

Nice! +rep

phill4paul
10-19-2018, 07:09 PM
Just did the same thing on an absentee ballot this very afternoon, for the first time in, decades, IIRC.

Obviously "our" side, while having all the weapons, are clearly afraid to actually do anything with them in the face of gale force winds of tyranny, and since carefully husbanded and guarded weapons are no weapons at all, this move is the only self defense move I can think of.

If'n as many say hear it don't matter, or that you should do one or the other for strategical purposes, then I'll cast my lot. Who cares, right? Doesn't matter. The voting machines are controlled by Israelis' and the Bilderburg pick the candidates. Will I take my 91 year old dad and 87 year old mom out to early vote? Yes. Yes, I will. I'm giddy about it. But, in the end, we will have much fun, go out and eat after, and call it a good day.

osan
10-19-2018, 07:16 PM
Allow me to posit another theory.

What will move us toward more human freedom... truly? I am a firm believer that we need nothing short of some serious hard times for the ball to be moved even in inch in that direction. Therefore it follows that whatever will bring us closer to 'hard times' would be the most appropriate remedy to the current predicament, no? I say let the Ocasio Corez's and the Bernies and Antifa wield the levers of power for a while... I'm here in flyover country and we've been WAITING for such an event... this will end up with one of several likely scenarios: 1) Secession/Peaceful dissolution, 2) Civil Conflict 3) Fill in the blank.... I think any outcome is better than preserving the status quo.

To summarize: Let them come.

Defeating them in November is, I suspect, more likely to drive the "left" to the extremes needed to get the rest of us out of complacency. I could be mistaken, but putting those cockroach wannabes back into power is likely not the good path forward. I understand your approach, but do not think it would work as you believe. We had eight years of Obama and his horde of vile dullard criminals in power. What did Americans do? Nothing. It is not the way. Defeating them, thus driving them to such rage that they fire the first shot so that we can fire the last, all the while denying them access to their means of putting the screws to decent people.

I no longer see any reasonable likelihood that we are able to resolve these deep divisions without bloodshed. The "left" is marching on the sovereign rights of everyone who is not them, openly stating their intentions to the world as to what they will do with those unaligned with them. Therefore, I say feed their bitter hatred until they attack so that we may, in defense of what decency remains to us, destroy them once and hopefully for all. I know this is all very dramatic sounding, but the choice seems clear: eliminate them or capitulate to them. Firing the first shot is not the way for "us", so they must be given the incentive to do so, that we may fire the last.

Rather that those of the "leftish" persuasion got some sense, but this is highly unlikely. Therefore, they should be destroyed for they represent a very real existential threat to the shred-remnants of human freedom.

osan
10-19-2018, 07:30 PM
Everything is pre-ordained and votes don't matter so I'm doing a straight RED ticket. It really doesn't matter, right? So what the fuck?

But what if they are not preordained?

Likely? Perhaps not. But consider this: if they are not, your actions contribute to what seems clearly a lesser evil. If they are, you've lost nothing but a few minutes of your time.

I believe that slim chance renders the effort worth the while. If Democrats regain one or both houses, bet your ass they will wage a campaign of retribution on the rest of us. Their bitter hatred is their weakness and is no joke. Granting them access to the levers of state would be madness. Setting them upon the American people would drive us to either fire the first shot or capitulate. Either way, we lose. Keep them outside in the cold, drive their hatred beyond their weak-tea limits so they make first move.

phill4paul
10-19-2018, 07:35 PM
But what if they are not preordained?

Likely? Perhaps not. But consider this: if they are not, your actions contribute to what seems clearly a lesser evil. If they are, you've lost nothing but a few minutes of your time.

I believe that slim chance renders the effort worth the while. If Democrats regain one or both houses, bet your ass they will wage a campaign of retribution on the rest of us. Their bitter hatred is their weakness and is no joke. Granting them access to the levers of state would be madness. Setting them upon the American people would drive us to either fire the first shot or capitulate. Either way, we lose. Keep them outside in the cold, drive their hatred beyond their weak-tea limits so they make first move.

Don't give a shit one way or the other. Strife is forth-coming. And since "voting doesn't matter" that which I vote for shouldn't concern anyone.

osan
10-19-2018, 08:24 PM
Obviously "our" side, while having all the weapons, are clearly afraid to actually do anything with them in the face of gale force winds of tyranny, and since carefully husbanded and guarded weapons are no weapons at all, this move is the only self defense move I can think of.

One step at a time, pal. I believe the issue between the so-called "left" and everyone else must first be settled. I believe they need to be put in their places because they have no intentions of ever respecting those who do not align with them unquestioningly. This is pretty serious shit and it is very immediate. The rest must wait until this matter is cleared up. Think of it as political triage or a sort, identifying and acting upon priorities. Treat the more immediate threat first, then move on.

I would also point out that if the left goes apey, and it's likely they will not in sufficiency to be corrected as I deem necessary to make a deep change in the fabric of American cultural attitudes, some number of Americans that have been heretofore reticent to employ their arms as you note may come around to a better attitude as a matter of necessity in defense of themselves. They may not. My hope is anorexic and at the edge of death, but until it dies, I will hang on to it.

Ideally, they left makes serious war on us and we correct them in great numbers. I dare not hope too strongly for such an outcome that is so necessary as a first step in cleaning the political gene pool. Shame on us all and our forbears as well for having allowed things to come to this miserable pass, but here we are and if we are serious about a better future, this is the bitter we must eat. In. My. Opinion.

Reason and decency have been abandoned by a proportion of the American people far too great to be simply accepted and ignored as statistical "noise". Not only are the lefties, or whatever you wish to call them, irrational and largely disgusting as human beings, more importantly they are dangerous and openly stating their intentions to do great harm to the entire nation. If that is not sufficient for deep and non-equivocating correction, then what is, assuming they initiate violence?

We're probably doomed to a socialist future of pure hell, but you never know. It ain't over 'til it's over. The American people may surprise us.

Anti Federalist
10-19-2018, 08:40 PM
But what if they are not preordained?

Likely? Perhaps not. But consider this: if they are not, your actions contribute to what seems clearly a lesser evil. If they are, you've lost nothing but a few minutes of your time.

I believe that slim chance renders the effort worth the while. If Democrats regain one or both houses, bet your ass they will wage a campaign of retribution on the rest of us. Their bitter hatred is their weakness and is no joke. Granting them access to the levers of state would be madness. Setting them upon the American people would drive us to either fire the first shot or capitulate. Either way, we lose. Keep them outside in the cold, drive their hatred beyond their weak-tea limits so they make first move.

This.

Anti Federalist
10-19-2018, 08:41 PM
If'n as many say hear it don't matter, or that you should do one or the other for strategical purposes, then I'll cast my lot. Who cares, right? Doesn't matter. The voting machines are controlled by Israelis' and the Bilderburg pick the candidates. Will I take my 91 year old dad and 87 year old mom out to early vote? Yes. Yes, I will. I'm giddy about it. But, in the end, we will have much fun, go out and eat after, and call it a good day.

Sounds like a nice day out with mom and dad.

Tell them I said hello.

Swordsmyth
10-19-2018, 08:43 PM
Defeating them in November is, I suspect, more likely to drive the "left" to the extremes needed to get the rest of us out of complacency. I could be mistaken, but putting those cockroach wannabes back into power is likely not the good path forward. I understand your approach, but do not think it would work as you believe. We had eight years of Obama and his horde of vile dullard criminals in power. What did Americans do? Nothing. It is not the way. Defeating them, thus driving them to such rage that they fire the first shot so that we can fire the last, all the while denying them access to their means of putting the screws to decent people.

I no longer see any reasonable likelihood that we are able to resolve these deep divisions without bloodshed. The "left" is marching on the sovereign rights of everyone who is not them, openly stating their intentions to the world as to what they will do with those unaligned with them. Therefore, I say feed their bitter hatred until they attack so that we may, in defense of what decency remains to us, destroy them once and hopefully for all. I know this is all very dramatic sounding, but the choice seems clear: eliminate them or capitulate to them. Firing the first shot is not the way for "us", so they must be given the incentive to do so, that we may fire the last.

Rather that those of the "leftish" persuasion got some sense, but this is highly unlikely. Therefore, they should be destroyed for they represent a very real existential threat to the shred-remnants of human freedom.
I remember reading a quote from Jefferson Davis somewhere that in effect said that next time we should let them secede but I can't find it now.

We need them to fire the first shots so it is best to drive them to it through political victory if we can, our side starting the revolt would put us at a great disadvantage so that should only be our last resort.

If we gain enough power we should expel a few deep blue states until the rest secede or revolt.

Anti Federalist
10-19-2018, 08:46 PM
Reason and decency have been abandoned by a proportion of the American people far too great to be simply accepted and ignored as statistical "noise". Not only are the lefties, or whatever you wish to call them, irrational and largely disgusting as human beings, more importantly they are dangerous and openly stating their intentions to do great harm to the entire nation. If that is not sufficient for deep and non-equivocating correction, then what is, assuming they initiate violence?

Bolsheviks with Jacobin tendencies.

I have no doubt that, given the chance, they would happily rally around a modern day Robespierre and march off into the countryside and kill anybody that represents the "Old Order".

That's you and me.

osan
10-19-2018, 08:49 PM
Don't give a shit one way or the other. Strife is forth-coming. And since "voting doesn't matter" that which I vote for shouldn't concern anyone.

I'm not clear on what it is about which you do not give a shit.

TheTexan
10-19-2018, 09:28 PM
If we gain enough power we should expel a few deep blue states until the rest secede or revolt.

Let's just get a wall up first ok then we'll talk

TheTexan
10-19-2018, 09:30 PM
It warms my heart to see people here so passionate about voting

I think I'm making a difference here :cool:

Danke
10-19-2018, 09:36 PM
Best view of Texass:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/blob:http://www.ronpaulforums.com/b38a6aac-f381-4aea-acff-16837bbfe747

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/blob:http://www.ronpaulforums.com/dbed06ba-7fb1-4979-97d6-2190f3f1dca6

Danke
10-19-2018, 09:45 PM
http://www.connelly.com/bc/TX_rear2_400.jpg

osan
10-19-2018, 09:51 PM
Bolsheviks with Jacobin tendencies.

I have no doubt that, given the chance, they would happily rally around a modern day Robespierre and march off into the countryside and kill anybody that represents the "Old Order".

That's you and me.

Exactly, which is why I say deny them the capacity to employ the power of the state against us. It's the immediate threat that must be neutralized first, then go on to other issues. Let them go insane with bitterness and hatred so they abandon the last vestiges of intelligence and attack. That is all the pretext needed to cull their ranks and put them back in their places.

Or would we prefer to hand everything to them on a silver platter?

Things are very much more serious than many people see, much less understand and appreciate. Stopping them from getting in should be paramount. Folks need to set aside nonsense and impractical attitudes for at least this short while. There's really nothing to lose, whereas there's plenty of dire risks in not voting. I don't like the notion of voting in general. Those things to which voting is applied seem to me to be mostly anti-freedom in their basic nature. But this is the hand we have been dealt. Use the corrupted system to minimize or possibly even reverse the deterioration in our general circumstances at the hands of these devils. I see things as being so bad and teetering, that we need to cut the shit and start using that which is available to us.

TheTexan
10-19-2018, 11:14 PM
Exactly, which is why I say deny them the capacity to employ the power of the state against us. It's the immediate threat that must be neutralized first, then go on to other issues. Let them go insane with bitterness and hatred so they abandon the last vestiges of intelligence and attack. That is all the pretext needed to cull their ranks and put them back in their places.

Or would we prefer to hand everything to them on a silver platter?

Things are very much more serious than many people see, much less understand and appreciate. Stopping them from getting in should be paramount. Folks need to set aside nonsense and impractical attitudes for at least this short while. There's really nothing to lose, whereas there's plenty of dire risks in not voting. I don't like the notion of voting in general. Those things to which voting is applied seem to me to be mostly anti-freedom in their basic nature. But this is the hand we have been dealt. Use the corrupted system to minimize or possibly even reverse the deterioration in our general circumstances at the hands of these devils. I see things as being so bad and teetering, that we need to cut the shit and start using that which is available to us.

So now Osan is pro-voting and Matt Collins is anti-voting?

https://media.giphy.com/media/oaPcDncoLfgjK/giphy.webp


I see things as being so bad and teetering, that we need to cut the shit and start using that which is available to us.

I agree with this statement 100%

RonZeplin
10-20-2018, 02:05 AM
If we gain enough power we should expel a few deep blue states until the rest secede or revolt.

Expel New York, then deport Trump, Giuliani & Javanka. MAGA :100:

nobody's_hero
10-20-2018, 05:57 AM
I didn't vote in 2016 so I'm gonna ask the poll workers for 2 cards this year.




Of course, I'll probably have to tell them I'm a democrat to get them.

osan
10-20-2018, 06:45 AM
I didn't vote in 2016 so I'm gonna ask the poll workers for 2 cards this year.




Of course, I'll probably have to tell them I'm a democrat to get them.


Tell them you're a family of dead gypsies and you'll probably get a dozen.

phill4paul
10-20-2018, 08:10 AM
I'm not clear on what it is about which you do not give a shit.

Whether it is pre-ordained or whether it isn't.

jkr
10-20-2018, 08:32 AM
You need to point out all the ways the Demoncrats want to kill her, start with death panels.

Well, she hears that everyday.... thus the Enigma

jkr
10-20-2018, 08:35 AM
Let's just get a wall up first ok then we'll talk

They fly them in over the wall I've seen it personally

osan
10-20-2018, 09:07 AM
Whether it is pre-ordained or whether it isn't.

But do you care about the quality of your life?

If things are preordained, and I doubt they are in any fatalistic sense beyond our control, then we're probably all screwed to the barn door. But on assumption that we are indeed yet able to alter courses, why not make the effort?

I see no reason to just hand everything over to these dangerous, screaming, tantrum-pitching, ill-bred, mentally unstable brats. If they take the day in November, you may live to regret not having lifted a finger to stop them because when they have the mental advantage of having the imprimatur of the "state" behind them, there comes with that all manner of materially very real badness that they can then foist upon us, not the least of which is the military and police. They can wreck us economically as Obama made effort. There's nearly no end to the mischief they could get into - dangerous mischief.

Just imagine the antifa crowd being actively protected by Congress. Don't be too fast to laugh that off. Thirty years ago, how many people would have thought it possible that we as a people could degenerate into that which we now see everywhere?

If you're going to just give up, why go with half-measures? If the day comes I choose to surrender, I'm eating a 12 ga. lunch.

Hell, I will fight those bastard infants just for the thrill of pushing back against evil in refusal of their stocks in trade. I have no intention of simply allowing them to run roughshod over me and mine. I've lived long enough and have little to lose, most especially fear. Those people are so pugnacious, so repellant, I find myself spoiling for a chance to set them straight, so I'm not the guy with whom they want to play and I don't think that I am anywhere nearly being alone in this.

Buck up, pal - get good and pissed and stand to be counted.

Or not.

Your choice, as always.

phill4paul
10-20-2018, 09:50 AM
But do you care about the quality of your life?

If things are preordained, and I doubt they are in any fatalistic sense beyond our control, then we're probably all screwed to the barn door. But on assumption that we are indeed yet able to alter courses, why not make the effort?

I see no reason to just hand everything over to these dangerous, screaming, tantrum-pitching, ill-bred, mentally unstable brats. If they take the day in November, you may live to regret not having lifted a finger to stop them because when they have the mental advantage of having the imprimatur of the "state" behind them, there comes with that all manner of materially very real badness that they can then foist upon us, not the least of which is the military and police. They can wreck us economically as Obama made effort. There's nearly no end to the mischief they could get into - dangerous mischief.

Just imagine the antifa crowd being actively protected by Congress. Don't be too fast to laugh that off. Thirty years ago, how many people would have thought it possible that we as a people could degenerate into that which we now see everywhere?

If you're going to just give up, why go with half-measures? If the day comes I choose to surrender, I'm eating a 12 ga. lunch.

Hell, I will fight those bastard infants just for the thrill of pushing back against evil in refusal of their stocks in trade. I have no intention of simply allowing them to run roughshod over me and mine. I've lived long enough and have little to lose, most especially fear. Those people are so pugnacious, so repellant, I find myself spoiling for a chance to set them straight, so I'm not the guy with whom they want to play and I don't think that I am anywhere nearly being alone in this.

Buck up, pal - get good and pissed and stand to be counted.

Or not.

Your choice, as always.

I think we are talking past each other. Such is written communication sometimes. I fully intend to cast my lot to keep Democrats from gaining control.

Anti Federalist
10-20-2018, 10:35 AM
http://www.connelly.com/bc/TX_rear2_400.jpg

By far and away the best view of TexASS

TheTexan
10-20-2018, 10:46 AM
Best view of Texass:


By far and away the best view of TexASS

-rep

osan
10-20-2018, 11:04 AM
I think we are talking past each other. Such is written communication sometimes. I fully intend to cast my lot to keep Democrats from gaining control.

OK, then we are clear.

Good on you. :)

jllundqu
10-25-2018, 02:18 PM
I actually think we are on the cusp of something that has been due for some time now. Anything that leads to the conflict that has, as of yet, been postponed, will only lead to the dissolution of the union... whether that breakup is peaceful or violent is not knowable, though I think we can all reasonably deduce the likely outcome. I am hopeful! I am actually optimistic that the next few years could see REAL change in our country. Let them come.

euphemia
10-25-2018, 03:28 PM
Gun restrictions have eased over the recent years because of Republicans.

And even the anti-Trump Republicans don’t seem to be able to stand up to Trump. The balance of power in Congress is a really big deal. Trump is moving the ball in the right direction. Possession is everything.

Ender
10-26-2018, 11:09 AM
What if they gave an election and nobody came?



Please Remember Not to Vote!
By C. J. Hopkins
The Unz Review

Here’s my advice. You’re not going to like it.

Do not vote. For anyone. At all. Tell all your friends not to vote for anyone. Join the hundreds of millions of Americans who refuse to participate in the simulation of democracy. Take time off from work to vote, and then do not vote. Go see a movie, or have lunch with someone you haven’t seen in a while, or take a nice, long walk in the woods or something. Whatever you do, do not vote. Seriously. Please stop voting for these people. They’re not your friends. They mean you ill. They will shake your hand, kiss your baby, then sell you to the first pharmaceutical lobbyist, or military industrial lobbyist, or Israeli or Saudi Arabian lobbyist, that waltzes into their office with a check, or that threatens to turn their voters against them.

You probably think I’m kidding. I’m not. Do not vote in these midterm elections. Or in any other American elections. Not while the system remains as it is. If you really want to vote, move to Europe, where at least there are still parliamentary structures, and a decent variety of political parties, and some restrictions on campaign financing and advertising. All you’re doing when you vote in America is reifying a simulation of democracy, and so perpetuating the system as it is.

Oh, and while you’re at it, if you happen to work for any of those pharmaceutical companies, or any of those weapons manufacturers, or their suppliers, or for an investment bank, or a hedge fund, or private equity firm, or any other company, corporation, firm, consultancy, or department of government that is central to keeping the American political and economic system going as it is, quit your job and do something else. Seriously, go into the office today (or get up from your desk right now) and quit, and go find something else to do with the gift of your sentient life on this planet. I realize that might be a scary proposition, but that’s what it’s going to take to change things, a lot of people deciding they have had it and are not going to play the game anymore.

That’s pretty much all the advice I’ve got. Sorry … I told you weren’t going to like it.



Full article here:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/10/no_author/please-remember-not-to-vote/

Swordsmyth
10-26-2018, 12:50 PM
What if they gave an election and nobody came?



Full article here:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/10/no_author/please-remember-not-to-vote/

Yes, let's leave it up to all the sheeple who will vote no matter what.:sarcasm:

Anti Federalist
10-31-2018, 02:20 AM
Barbra Streisand May Move to Canada if Republicans Keep the House (https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/10/30/barbra-streisand-may-move-to-canada-if-republicans-keep-house/)

There.

Now everybody has a good reason to vote GOP.

Danke
10-31-2018, 02:27 AM
Barbra Streisand May Move to Canada if Republicans Keep the House (https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/10/30/barbra-streisand-may-move-to-canada-if-republicans-keep-house/)

There.

Now everybody has a good reason to vote GOP.

If the Repubs keep the house, will she keep her house in Malibu with the move to Canada?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Streisand_Estate.jpg



Barbra Streisand is urging her fans to be more energy efficient – but she’s not practicing what she preaches.
She still flies on fossil fuel-sucking private jets, roams the roads in gas-guzzling limos and SUVs, and vacations on big power boats.
She routinely keeps the central air conditioning blasting frigid air in her many homes – including her Manhattan penthouse – even when she’s thousands of miles away.
“She is someone who cannot be hot, not even for a minute,” says a Streisand confidant. “Maybe it’s menopause, but she refuses to sweat. She has her trainers over and it’s like 30 degrees in her house. She freaks if she walks into a warm room.”
A far cry from the energy-conservation advice on her Web site (www.barbrastreisand.com (http://www.barbrastreisand.com)), where she implores fellow Californians to turn their thermostats up to 78 degrees when they’re home, and 85 degrees when they’re out.
“She’d melt like the wicked witch in ‘The Wizard of Oz’ if her place was 78 degrees, much less 85,” our source noted.
When asked what, if any, of the energy-saving advice on the Streisand Web site was being followed by the conservation-crusading star, her spokesman told a reporter last week, “She never meant that it necessarily applied to her.”

CCTelander
10-31-2018, 05:07 AM
Barbra Streisand May Move to Canada if Republicans Keep the House (https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/10/30/barbra-streisand-may-move-to-canada-if-republicans-keep-house/)

There.

Now everybody has a good reason to vote GOP.


Since when do celebs ever keep these kinds of promises?

Anti Federalist
10-31-2018, 10:51 AM
Since when do celebs ever keep these kinds of promises?

Sadly, almost never.

CCTelander
10-31-2018, 11:14 AM
Sadly, almost never.


Very much like politicians that way.

heavenlyboy34
10-31-2018, 11:33 AM
Pity we can't all agree to vote en masse for imaginary candidates like I'm doing on my lonesome. That way we wouldn't have any politicians except in name and real people could get shit done in their lives.

TheTexan
10-31-2018, 03:12 PM
Pity we can't all agree to vote en masse for imaginary candidates like I'm doing on my lonesome. That way we wouldn't have any politicians except in name and real people could get shit done in their lives.

Imaginary candidate or not, thanks for voting!

Every vote, wasted or not, still counts towards voter participation metrics, which political scientists say is a key indicator of the legitimacy of any election :)

heavenlyboy34
10-31-2018, 03:28 PM
Imaginary candidate or not, thanks for voting!

Every vote, wasted or not, still counts towards voter participation metrics, which political scientists say is a key indicator of the legitimacy of any election :)
y/w! Let's pave the way for Vermin Supreme victory in 2020! :D <3

osan
10-31-2018, 05:12 PM
If the Repubs keep the house, will she keep her house in Malibu with the move to Canada?

i was kind of hoping it'd pledge suicide.

Canadians may be retards, but they've done nothing to deserve Streisand. Not even ISIS deserves that much torment.


“She is someone who cannot be hot, not even for a minute,”

Well, at least someone from her camp is willing to admit it publicly.


“Maybe it’s menopause

Oh YEAH... that's the ticket... except that it went through menopause sometime in the mid-fourteenth century... BC. That's right, the "Black Death" wasn't caused by fleas, but by its "life change"... if "life" can even be said to apply in that case, which I strongly doubt. I think perhaps it just opened its legs and 2/3 of Europe vanished in a cloud of unspeakable agony. Nobody ever speaks of the deforestation, water flowing uphill, and so forth.

Yeah, it really was that bad. Where do you think the Christians got all their notions about the devil? That's right.


but she refuses to sweat.

Just imagine the repercussions of it sweating - think "Alien" when they cut its first-cousin with the scalpel, releasing the juices that ate holes in the metal, damned near to the outer hull.

It'd be naked in an instant, resulting in endless cases of blindness in the best case and human combustion in the most likely. Then there's the damage to the planet itself as its liquid emanations melted their ways to the center of the earth, creating a black hole at the center, and we all know what follows right after that happens.


She has her trainers over and it’s like 30 degrees in her house. She freaks if she walks into a warm room.”

It is a sissy.

A deeply, tragically retarded sissy.
.

“She’d melt like the wicked witch in ‘The Wizard of Oz’ if her place was 78 degrees, much less 85,” our source noted.

My first impulse is to load it onto a Delta booster and fire it into the sun, but... well, the black hole thing. Better yet, Delta rocket pointed at a quasar at the edges of the observable universe. By the time it strikes something, giving birth to said black hole, the universe would likely be about ready to snuff it anyway.

I suspect this is the only safe way to dispose of it, by far the most singularly toxic mass in the universe, bar none.


When asked what, if any, of the energy-saving advice on the Streisand Web site was being followed by the conservation-crusading star, her spokesman told a reporter last week, “She never meant that it necessarily applied to her.”

And there you have the money shot, so to speak (no man would touch it even were his pole 10 miles long). Is it that horrific nose that makes it so ugly? The crossed eyes? NO! It's the left-grinding, too-stupid-to-be-aware-of-just-how-stupid-it-looks hypocrisy. That is what makes it the single most repellent entity of pure Eville™ in the universe. It makes plutonium appear as health food or a cuddly puppy with which to curl up for a nap. Perhaps it should be called "Streisandium".

osan
10-31-2018, 05:38 PM
Barbra Streisand May Move to Canada if Republicans Keep the House (https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/10/30/barbra-streisand-may-move-to-canada-if-republicans-keep-house/)

There.

Now everybody has a good reason to vote GOP.

I kinda feel sorry for the Canadians, despite being the repugnant little turds that they tend to be.

Then again, better them than us.