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goldenequity
10-15-2018, 07:33 AM
:eek::upsidedown::sleeping:

The Intercept‏@theintercept · 18 min.
Elizabeth Warren reveals DNA evidence of Native American ancestry, rebuking Trump
https://interc.pt/2OufvST

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https://twitter.com/elizabethforma/status/1051820933982359553

donnay
10-15-2018, 07:46 AM
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Anti Federalist
10-15-2018, 07:55 AM
1/512 ???

LOL

By that standard, I'm Sitting fucking Bull.

jmdrake
10-15-2018, 08:02 AM
Rebunking? I've heard of de-bunking, but rebunking? Carry on.

Ender
10-15-2018, 08:57 AM
From the Intercept:


Linskey’s report, which features a more extensive interview with Bustamante, notes that the genetic expert estimated that Warren’s Native American ancestor appears in her family tree “in the range of 6-10 generations ago.” That would seem to fit the story that Warren’s parents told their children about their maternal great-great-great-grandmother.

However, the Globe report could also point to ways the story might soon be attacked by Warren’s political opponents, as they seek to cast doubt on the results. Bustamante was careful to say that his lab is “confident it is not an error” to say Warren has Native American ancestry, but the imprecision of genetic testing will no doubt soon be a subject of national debate should the senator run for the presidency.

As Linskey explains, Bustamante was also forced to use a creative method to identify Native American genetic material, which could give Trump supporters an opportunity to dispute the findings:

Detecting DNA for Native Americans is particularly tricky because there is an absence of Native American DNA available for comparison. This is in part because Native American leaders have asked tribal members not to participate in genetic databases.

“The tribes have felt they have been exploited,” explained Lawrence Brody, a senior investigator with the Medical Genomics and Metabolic Genetics Branch at the National Institutes of Health. “The amount of genetic data that is available from Native Americans is sparse.”

I'm no Warren fan, but as I have pointed out before, Indian DNA ancestry is tricky. My good friend, who is Tungva Indian, had his DNA done & it said he was 95% Ainu.

My great-great grandmother was Cherokee & I'm blonde/blue-eyed. Supposedly her tribe birthed a blonde ever so often. Some think it's
from the Lost Colonists who are thought to have merged with Indian tribes.

Madison320
10-15-2018, 09:01 AM
1/512 ???

LOL

By that standard, I'm Sitting $#@!ing Bull.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. I'd like to know what percentage of US citizens have an equal to or greater percent of indian dna compared to Warren, using the same criteria. I'll bet half the population has at least that much.

donnay
10-15-2018, 09:19 AM
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dannno
10-15-2018, 09:52 AM
1051852537987502082

Wow, not even 0.5%, 0.1%...

0.1% of $1 million is $1,000, soo....

Brian4Liberty
10-15-2018, 10:15 AM
It adds up fast when stating the percentage of a single individual in your ancestry.

1/1,024 at 10 generations back? Then it’s 1/2,048 at 11 generations.

timosman
10-15-2018, 10:18 AM
It adds up fast when stating the percentage of a single individual in your ancestry.

1/1,024 at 10 generations back? Then it’s 1/2,048 at 11 generations.

Do both parents always contribute 50% of the gene material to an offspring or is it more of a probability function?

goldenequity
10-15-2018, 10:21 AM
"Math Correction" Confirms Warren Could Be 0.09% Native American
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-15/elizabeth-warren-releases-dna-results-proving-she-part-native-american
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/styles/teaser_desktop_1x/public/2018-10/warren.jpg

AZJoe
10-15-2018, 10:24 AM
The way Warren handled this is still rather suspicious.

After delaying a DNA test for years, it is a bit suspect that that she refused one of the readily publicly available DNA tests such as 23andme, or ancestry.com, but rather handpicked a specially selected Stanford professor.

And even his exclusive test only alleges likely ancestor 6 to 10 generations ago, which equates to between 1/64th (1.5%) to 1/1024th (.1%) ancestry if the results are accurate.

milgram
10-15-2018, 10:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKxtXzAgGew

oyarde
10-15-2018, 10:36 AM
.080 may get you a DUI some places but it does not get you an Indian.

Brian4Liberty
10-15-2018, 10:45 AM
Do both parents always contribute 50% of the gene material to an offspring or is it more of a probability function?

Basically 50/50, except for mitochondrial DNA which always comes from the mother.

How much you get from an individual in your past family tree is random. So many generations back, and you may not have any DNA from an ancestor, unless it’s the mitochondrial DNA from the direct mother line.

Ender
10-15-2018, 10:56 AM
The way Warren handled this is still rather suspicious.

After delaying a DNA test for years, it is a bit suspect that that she refused one of the readily publicly available DNA tests such as 23andme, or ancestry.com, but rather handpicked a specially selected Stanford professor.

And even his exclusive test only alleges likely ancestor 6 to 10 generations ago, which equates to between 1/64th (1.5%) to 1/1024th (.1%) ancestry if the results are accurate.

Indian DNA is difficult.


Detecting DNA for Native Americans is particularly tricky because there is an absence of Native American DNA available for comparison. This is in part because Native American leaders have asked tribal members not to participate in genetic databases.

“The tribes have felt they have been exploited,” explained Lawrence Brody, a senior investigator with the Medical Genomics and Metabolic Genetics Branch at the National Institutes of Health. “The amount of genetic data that is available from Native Americans is sparse.”

Like I said above- my Tungva Indian friend, who is definitely Indian, had his DNA come back as 95% Ainu. Blew him away.

Todd
10-15-2018, 11:05 AM
If that counts as being Indian then we all are.

oyarde
10-15-2018, 11:08 AM
If that counts as being Indian then we all are.

Except Danke , who has been determined to be somalian pirate .

donnay
10-15-2018, 11:12 AM
If that counts as being Indian then we all are.

#Believewomen Harvard hired her as a "woman of color."

Brian4Liberty
10-15-2018, 11:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKxtXzAgGew

Yeah, that’s about it. This whole DNA Ancestry craze is about politics.

It’s not terribly accurate.

timosman
10-15-2018, 11:20 AM
Basically 50/50, except for mitochondrial DNA which always comes from the mother.

How much you get from an individual in your past family tree is random. So many generations back, and you may not have any DNA from an ancestor, unless it’s the mitochondrial DNA from the direct mother line.

It is not that simple. If you assume genes from a gene pair are selected randomly you can see a situation where a parent chooses always one of their parents' genes when passing them to a child. This means a grandchild can have 0-50% of its grandparent genes. Although the most likely outcome is 25% it is not the only possibility.

ThePaleoLibertarian
10-15-2018, 11:38 AM
The test showed her to be maybe 0.1 percent red man! ...Or Mexican. Which is pretty much the same thing, right? She sure owned the Blumpf on this one!

ThePaleoLibertarian
10-15-2018, 12:08 PM
Detecting DNA for Native Americans is particularly tricky because there is an absence of Native American DNA available for comparison. This is in part because Native American leaders have asked tribal members not to participate in genetic databases.
This seems foolhardy. They're guaranteeing that thousands of people won't discover their Indian heritage. Maybe that's the point.

ThePaleoLibertarian
10-15-2018, 12:13 PM
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Holy shit :tears:

I'm sorry, but this piddling 1/1024 Native ancestry does not wash at all, compared to the kind of BS she's been spouting for decades. "Part Cherokee and part Delaware" my ass.

AZJoe
10-15-2018, 12:28 PM
Indian DNA is difficult.
Like I said above- my Tungva Indian friend, who is definitely Indian, had his DNA come back as 95% Ainu. Blew him away.

If you are blown away by that, you'll be even more blown away by this. My definitely Yaqui friend had his DNA come back 99.8% native American.

Not sure what point your trying to make re Warren. So your friend is Ainu ancestry. So what? Trying to say if Warren's DNA results had been Ainu then she could have been Native American? Warren's published test doesn't show her to be Ainu either. Heck if her DNA results had been native American , in that case she could have been native American too.

These sophomoric non sequiturs don't make Warren any more native American ancestry. Nor does it change her spectacle of touting she is native American and she will prove it by finding someone she can hire to say she has some tiny remote native american DNA ancestry - between 1/64th (1.5%) to 1/1024th (.1%) ancestry based on the Stanford professor's comparisons to DNA from Mexico, Columbia and Peru.

And it also doesn't change the very suspicious way Warren handled her DNA claim. (Delaying a DNA test for years, refusing one of the readily publicly available DNA tests such as 23andme, or ancestry.com, using a handpicked specially selected Stanford professor).

spudea
10-15-2018, 12:34 PM
This is truly shameful. In a less PC time, and a neutral media environment, a person who is 1/64 native American at best and claiming to be Cherokee as part of their identity, would be correctly labeled clinically insane.

luctor-et-emergo
10-15-2018, 12:48 PM
I'm a Germanian with green eyes. My family on both sides has lived here for at least 400years, one side likely at least double that.

If I claim any kind of native shit, I'm probably a racist. :eek:

Ender
10-15-2018, 12:56 PM
If you are blown away by that, you'll be even more blown away by this. My definitely Yaqui friend had his DNA come back 99.8% native American.

Not sure what point your trying to make re Warren. So your friend is Ainu ancestry. So what? Trying to say if Warren's DNA results had been Ainu then she could have been Native American? Warren's published test doesn't show her to be Ainu either. Heck if her DNA results had been native American , in that case she could have been native American too.

These sophomoric non sequiturs don't make Warren any more native American ancestry. Nor does it change her spectacle of touting she is native American and she will prove it by finding someone she can hire to say she has some tiny remote native american DNA ancestry - between 1/64th (1.5%) to 1/1024th (.1%) ancestry based on the Standford's professor's comparisons to DNA from Mexico, Columbia and Peru.

And it also doesn't change the very suspicious way Warren handled her DNA claim. (Delaying a DNA test for years, refusing one of the readily publicly available DNA tests such as 23andme, or ancestry.com, using a handpicked specially selected Stanford professor).

I guess I can understand her claim a bit as I grew up with the same kind of stories about our Cherokee heritage. I believed my family and haven't gone through the DNA stuff.

Warren's bad Indian thing was started by a political opponent- which always makes me a bit suspicious; everyone in her education/job history have said it was never an issue.

Like I said- I'm no Warren fan but this has always seemed blown waaaay outta proportion.

Ender
10-15-2018, 12:58 PM
This is truly shameful. In a less PC time, and a neutral media environment, a person who is 1/64 native American at best and claiming to be Cherokee as part of their identity, would be correctly labeled clinically insane.

In the US you are considered legally black with 1 drop of negro blood in your history.

Just sayin'.

EBounding
10-15-2018, 01:03 PM
Talk about Pyrrhic victories....

oyarde
10-15-2018, 01:46 PM
This is truly shameful. In a less PC time, and a neutral media environment, a person who is 1/64 native American at best and claiming to be Cherokee as part of their identity, would be correctly labeled clinically insane.

She is on my authority 100 percent insane .:directhit:

UWDude
10-15-2018, 02:00 PM
Despicable human and hypocrite
https://i.redd.it/8gy8je317es11.png

Swordsmyth
10-15-2018, 02:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCeLFECS5mc

UWDude
10-15-2018, 03:06 PM
I guess I can understand her claim a bit as I grew up with the same kind of stories about our Cherokee heritage. I believed my family and haven't gone through the DNA stuff.

Warren's bad Indian thing was started by a political opponent- which always makes me a bit suspicious; everyone in her education/job history have said it was never an issue.

Like I said- I'm no Warren fan but this has always seemed blown waaaay outta proportion.

Do you claim to be a native American?
You ever file for native scholarships?

Everybody has a little native blood in them. My grandma said we have native lineage.

Elizabeth Warren is not a Native American, in any way. She is a blue eyed, blonde haired, privileged white woman, who never saw a day of struggle in her life, and knows absolutely nothing about the struggle of native.

She's a god damned phony. And if she can tell whoppers like this, with a straight face, she obviously is one of those people that has lied to get everything.

oyarde
10-15-2018, 03:32 PM
I have never accepted scholarships or jobs based on race and would discourage all americans from participating in these barbaric , racist institutions like harvard .

Aratus
10-15-2018, 03:35 PM
I think "pay up or shut up" is her debate tactic.
She's assuming Hillary folds in 2020 and does
not up the ante in order to debate DJT all over
again. One of the Republicans had an attack ad
with the bumper sticker LIZ 4 PREZ and maybe
this is not the brightest idea. Most Democrats up
here expect her to POTUS run. Mr.Bernie does not
have things sewn up. She just positioned herself...

oyarde
10-15-2018, 04:02 PM
1/512 ???

LOL

By that standard, I'm Sitting fucking Bull.

She comes in at .10 mexican according to some professor and the avg american is .20 which means she is as she looks , whiter than a white person . You could actually get as much information as that from blood type .

Anti Federalist
10-15-2018, 04:09 PM
LOLOLOL...she and the Globe sure shot themselves in the foot on this one.

She's no more American Indian than Custer.

Chester Copperpot
10-15-2018, 04:12 PM
Do you claim to be a native American?
You ever file for native scholarships?

Everybody has a little native blood in them. My grandma said we have native lineage.

Elizabeth Warren is not a Native American, in any way. She is a blue eyed, blonde haired, privileged white woman, who never saw a day of struggle in her life, and knows absolutely nothing about the struggle of native.

She's a god damned phony. And if she can tell whoppers like this, with a straight face, she obviously is one of those people that has lied to get everything.
FWIW, if she was born in America then shes a native American... Just saying... Im a native american too.. but im not indian.

KEEF
10-15-2018, 04:16 PM
Do both parents always contribute 50% of the gene material to an offspring or is it more of a probability function?
Yes, parents always contribute 50% of their DNA, and yes it is a probability thing too. Think of it like this, you are 50% of your Dad, and he is 50% of his Dad. So you have a 25% probably of inheriting any one of your grandpa’s genes.

tommyrp12
10-15-2018, 04:33 PM
999846117721477122

phill4paul
10-15-2018, 04:33 PM
LOLOLOL...she and the Globe sure shot themselves in the foot on this one.

She's no more American Indian than Custer.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527447-Cherokee-Nation-has-someting-to-say-to-Liz-Warren-and-they-are-PISSED


Love watching these "special interests" goat-fuck each other.

:tears::tears::tears:

Ender
10-15-2018, 04:34 PM
999846117721477122

Pretty much.

tommyrp12
10-15-2018, 04:37 PM
Pretty much.

Didn't see the date I thought this was a response to Warren. I'm gonna leave it up though.

Anti Federalist
10-15-2018, 04:40 PM
999846117721477122

+rep

spudea
10-15-2018, 04:42 PM
Warren's bad Indian thing was started by a political opponent- which always makes me a bit suspicious; everyone in her education/job history have said it was never an issue.

I'm also ~1/64 and think it would be terribly absurd for me to list myself or tell people I'm native American, it would be outright delusional. Warren started this when she developed her own self hate. ITS OKAY TO BE WHITE.


It was Warren who made it all an issue. We don’t fully know how important Warren’s claims were in her career. There is, however, much evidence that her self-driven minority claims in the 1990s were helpful. Warren, who once maintained her family had “high cheekbones like all of the Indians do,” was listed as a “minority faculty member” by The University of Pennsylvania. She had the school switch her designation from white to Native American. Warren self-identified as a “minority” in the legal directory, and Harvard Law School preposterously listed her as one of the “women of color” the school had hired. On job applications, Warren was very specific in claiming that she had Cherokee and Delaware Indian ancestry.

When her supposed Native American heritage came under scrutiny during her first Senate bid, Warren presented a recipe she had published in her cousin’s cookbook as evidence of her background. It was signed “Elizabeth Warren — Cherokee.” Later we learned that even the recipe was taken verbatim from an article in The New York Times five years earlier.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/15/elizabeth-warrens-dna-test-proves-she-was-lying/

Schifference
10-15-2018, 04:48 PM
My grandfathers grandmother was full blooded indian. That made his mom 50%, he was 25%, my mother 12.5%, me 6.25%.

I was always told that was an insignificant amount.

Swordsmyth
10-15-2018, 04:51 PM
Since they used mexico, peru and columbia as the target they may have actually proved that she has spanish/portuguese ancestry.

Swordsmyth
10-15-2018, 05:14 PM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1051855643135467520

1051855643135467520

Swordsmyth
10-15-2018, 05:14 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/1539624806134.png?itok=CmM34r7k

Swordsmyth
10-15-2018, 05:17 PM
https://twitter.com/MeyersWarren/status/1051883594715557891

1051883594715557891

Swordsmyth
10-15-2018, 05:18 PM
https://twitter.com/MeyersWarren/status/1051925898394357761

1051925898394357761

Anti Globalist
10-15-2018, 05:18 PM
Warrens eating crow right now and I'm absolutely loving it. Please run in 2020 so we can bring this up throughout your whole campaign.

Swordsmyth
10-15-2018, 05:19 PM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1051839834409467905

1051839834409467905

Swordsmyth
10-15-2018, 05:21 PM
Warrens eating crow right now and I'm absolutely loving it. Please run in 2020 so we can bring this up throughout your whole campaign.

If she ate the right kind of Crow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crow_Nation) it would significantly increase how much Injun she had in her.

AZJoe
10-15-2018, 06:36 PM
1051843481013014528

So the average European American has twice as much native American DNA as Warren.

Brian4Liberty
10-15-2018, 07:03 PM
It is not that simple. If you assume genes from a gene pair are selected randomly you can see a situation where a parent chooses always one of their parents' genes when passing them to a child. This means a grandchild can have 0-50% of its grandparent genes. Although the most likely outcome is 25% it is not the only possibility.

Exactly. That’s where the randomness comes into play. It’s also why your ancestry can not possibly be completely told by DNA. The whole DNA/ancestry/location on the planet connection and these services is fraudulent.

As you point out, even though very highly improbable, in the most extreme possible example, a parent could contribute DNA to their child from only one of their parents. Thus, it would be theoretically, (but not realistically) possible for a person to have no genes at all from a grandparent. This does not mean that the grandparent is any less an ancestor. And of course the more generations you go back, the more likely that a person will have no genetic material from a legitimate ancestor.

And none of this takes into account the inevitable cross merging of family trees at some point in the past.

Swordsmyth
10-15-2018, 09:07 PM
https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1051848591885578240
1051848591885578240

specsaregood
10-15-2018, 09:19 PM
LOLOLOL...she and the Globe sure shot themselves in the foot on this one.

She's no more American Indian than Custer.

LOL, 23andme says i'm like 50x more Neanderthal than she is Native American. Maybe I should petition for protected status, my ancestors are extinct, killed off by those evil homosapiens!

nikcers
10-15-2018, 10:05 PM
It would be funny if she got a bone marrow transplant and then had her blood tested.

Swordsmyth
10-15-2018, 10:11 PM
LOL, 23andme says i'm like 50x more Neanderthal than she is Native American. Maybe I should petition for protected status, my ancestors are extinct, killed off by those evil homosapiens!
#WhitesAreAMinority

Anti Federalist
10-15-2018, 11:50 PM
Nicked from Disqus comments:


sebpersh Whiteroses • 2 hours ago
The only chance Warren has of possibly getting the Democratic Party nomination in 2020 is if she's not a white woman. It's why she'll ride her 1/1024th Peruvian ancestry as far as she can take it. She's too cowardly to stand in front of the leftist mob and tell them "it's about ideas and policies, not race" and so she'll continue to claim she's being victimized by President Trump and that she's really a Cherokee. Finally, Kamala Harris in a debate will call her out for it in a surprise moment of honesty, the spell will be broken and the Left will turn on Warren for cultural appropriation, demonize her for being too white, and Warren will go down in history as yet another example of somebody who was turned on by the very mob she helped create.

Ever since it was discovered that a majority of white women voted for President Trump in 2016, white women have been on the chopping block in the Democratic Party. The feeding frenzy as the mob of victim classes turns on another of its kind (they've long-since discarded gay men, which is why casual homophobic remarks about conservative males is suddenly so acceptable, and why they all defended the muslim shooter in Orlando), magnified by the recent vote by Susan Collins on the Kavanaugh confirmation. Frankly this turning on white women in the wake of 2016 is also why Feinstein tried to make herself the most extreme member of the Senate in her Kavanaugh smear, so she doesn't get bumped off in her Senate race against somebody higher up on the victim hierarchy.

Aratus
10-15-2018, 11:56 PM
She is younger than Hillary, brainier than Hillary and able to move
to her left and right on issues that can somewhat appeal to Bernie
people. She also is a political animal up here. She has to stonewall
Hillary as she takes up the fallen metaphoric banner of Woman's Lib
circa 1975. Expect the 2020 Democratic Primaries and Caucuses to
be brutal, bloody and ideologue driven. Hillary is very vulnerable!!!
Ms.Liz just secured a critical foothold inside the BLUE WAVE zoo!!!

Aratus
10-15-2018, 11:57 PM
Gentleman Mitt has very good Utah poll numbers...

Anti Federalist
10-15-2018, 11:58 PM
https://i.imgur.com/1xZfOWK.jpg

Swordsmyth
10-16-2018, 12:00 AM
Nicked from Disqus comments:

sebpersh Whiteroses • 2 hours ago
The only chance Warren has of possibly getting the Democratic Party nomination in 2020 is if she's not a white woman. It's why she'll ride her 1/1024th Peruvian ancestry as far as she can take it. She's too cowardly to stand in front of the leftist mob and tell them "it's about ideas and policies, not race" and so she'll continue to claim she's being victimized by President Trump and that she's really a Cherokee. Finally, Kamala Harris in a debate will call her out for it in a surprise moment of honesty, the spell will be broken and the Left will turn on Warren for cultural appropriation, demonize her for being too white, and Warren will go down in history as yet another example of somebody who was turned on by the very mob she helped create.

Ever since it was discovered that a majority of white women voted for President Trump in 2016, white women have been on the chopping block in the Democratic Party. The feeding frenzy as the mob of victim classes turns on another of its kind (they've long-since discarded gay men, which is why casual homophobic remarks about conservative males is suddenly so acceptable, and why they all defended the muslim shooter in Orlando), magnified by the recent vote by Susan Collins on the Kavanaugh confirmation. Frankly this turning on white women in the wake of 2016 is also why Feinstein tried to make herself the most extreme member of the Senate in her Kavanaugh smear, so she doesn't get bumped off in her Senate race against somebody higher up on the victim hierarchy.



Soon there will start to be collisions at those intersections.

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcrazycrashes.files.wordpress.com% 2F2007%2F10%2Finsame_multi_car_pile_up-1.jpg&f=1

Origanalist
10-16-2018, 06:04 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DplwHB1XgAEYjbu.jpg

DamianTV
10-16-2018, 06:10 AM
#WhitesAreAMinority

^^^
THAT

What are whites, only 5% of the worlds population?

shakey1
10-16-2018, 06:49 AM
Elizabeth Warren - YT

AZJoe
10-16-2018, 07:58 AM
In honor of her native American heritage, Elizabeth Warren should adopt a native American name that reflects her character. Some contenders:


Lie-a-watha
Faux-a-hontas
Spreading Bull
Quack Hawk
She-fool-ya

Anti Federalist
10-16-2018, 08:07 AM
^^^
THAT

What are whites, only 5% of the worlds population?

And the only ethnic group that needs "diversity".

Origanalist
10-16-2018, 08:59 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpoyqNXV4AAbrbI?format=jpg

Champ
10-16-2018, 09:12 AM
Apparently "Golden" Graham thinks he can beat Pocahontas's score.

Starts at 5:12


https://youtu.be/ptxP9GSg44s?t=312

AZJoe
10-16-2018, 09:14 AM
Hey, we live in the culture where make believe is the new reality, violently enforced by the heavy brutality of government.

If a man can simply identify himself a woman (or vice versa) and everyone else is forced to abide and accept and act accordingly under threat of government violence, why can’t Elizabeth Warren just pretend she is Cherokee. Why not force all the Cherokee nation and all the rest of the Cherokee to accept her lie.

Chester Copperpot
10-16-2018, 09:17 AM
My grandfathers grandmother was full blooded indian. That made his mom 50%, he was 25%, my mother 12.5%, me 6.25%.

I was always told that was an insignificant amount.

At 12.5% your mom and older ancestors should be free of all taxes.

oyarde
10-16-2018, 09:18 AM
^^^
THAT

What are whites, only 5% of the worlds population?
I have seen speculation that only about 10 percent of the population of my home state is 100 percent white european ancestry . So , everyone is a minority .

Chester Copperpot
10-16-2018, 09:22 AM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1051839834409467905

1051839834409467905
everytime i agree with ben shapiro i throw up in my mouth a little

Jamesiv1
10-16-2018, 09:27 AM
I identify as a cigar store wooden Indian. Does that count? Do I get some free stuff?

Madison320
10-16-2018, 09:57 AM
Hey, we live in the culture where make believe is the new reality, violently enforced by the heavy brutality of government.

If a man can simply identify himself a woman (or vice versa) and everyone else is forced to abide and accept and act accordingly under threat of government violence, why can’t Elizabeth Warren just pretend she is Cherokee. Why not force all the Cherokee nation and all the rest of the Cherokee to accept her lie.

This is the part that libertarians should be offended by. Specifically discrimination laws. If we had freedom of association (which is a subset of freedom in general), none of this stupid crap would matter.

Ender
10-16-2018, 09:57 AM
I'm also ~1/64 and think it would be terribly absurd for me to list myself or tell people I'm native American, it would be outright delusional. Warren started this when she developed her own self hate. ITS OKAY TO BE WHITE.



http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/15/elizabeth-warrens-dna-test-proves-she-was-lying/

I agree.

Madison320
10-16-2018, 09:58 AM
I guess I can understand her claim a bit as I grew up with the same kind of stories about our Cherokee heritage. I believed my family and haven't gone through the DNA stuff.

Warren's bad Indian thing was started by a political opponent- which always makes me a bit suspicious; everyone in her education/job history have said it was never an issue.

Like I said- I'm no Warren fan but this has always seemed blown waaaay outta proportion.

It makes your support for discrimination laws seem pretty silly, doesn't it?

Ender
10-16-2018, 10:01 AM
It makes your support for discrimination laws seem pretty silly, doesn't it?

I don't support ANY discrimination laws.

In fact I just +repped you for post #79.

Madison320
10-16-2018, 10:04 AM
I don't support ANY discrimination laws.

In fact I just +repped you for post #79.

You used to. Or at least you were not against them. Plus rep coming if you've changed your mind.

Ender
10-16-2018, 10:06 AM
You used to. Or at least you were not against them. Plus rep coming if you've changed your mind.

I have NEVER supported ANY discrimination laws- ever.

dude58677
10-16-2018, 10:11 AM
https://i.imgur.com/1xZfOWK.jpg

Lololololololololololol

shakey1
10-16-2018, 10:26 AM
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f7/51/9f/f7519f10a3bc1c3c9e86af9b029ecd67.jpg

Aratus
10-16-2018, 11:15 AM
Be fair! She isn't even a complete & total Democratic Socialist, only Bernie is! (Aratus looks ...up!)

Swordsmyth
10-16-2018, 05:56 PM
Elizabeth Warren’s national political career is over. And malignant narcissist that she is she keeps trying to score rhetorical points against Donald Trump, thinking if she can just get in a good one, she’ll stop being a laughing stock.
But, that’s not going to happen. She’s accumulating nicknames now at a rate that is faster than black men are leaving the Democrats.


Fauxcahontas

Lie-awatha

Last of the Fauxhicans

Fraudazuma

Fakeagawea

After being thoroughly rebuked by the Cherokee Nation for using her DNA results (which, by the way, make her more Aryan than Hitler) for cheap political purposes, Warren continues to debase herself stridently rallying her supporters to force Trump to pay up on his ‘bet’ with her that she is significantly Native American.
She went from possibly being of Cherokee origin to being the founding member of the Slapaho tribe.
Because, seriously, someone needs to slap some sense into her.
And if this incident proves anything it is that she’s surrounded by the worst political strategists this side of Hillary Clinton.
My dad used to say, “It is better to be thought an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.” Honestly that may be the longest sentence my dad ever spoke aloud.
It’s too bad Lizzie’s dad didn’t teach her that.
But, what’s truly awe-inspiring about this beginning of the Me Sioux Movement here is how unbelievably tone deaf Warren is to how things work in politics now.



Hyper-partisan liberal jackasses like Warren have been protected by our lying media for so long that it made them sloppy. She thought she would be able to run with her DNA results and have the media make Trump respond to her and she could remain relevant as a fighter coming into November 6th.
What she did was commit the biggest political own-goal since Rudy Guiliani attacked Ron Paul on 9/11 in 2008, thus sparking the political rebellion which is reaching its zenith today and ended Guiliani’s political career.
I say it all the time, power makes you stupid. It also makes you lazy. I used to think Guiliani’s mistake was the acme of political laziness and stupidity.
But, he’s got nothing over on Warren. At least he made it to the presidential debate stage.


She’s an Affirmative Action Welfare Queen, using a family anecdote about her mom’s black hair to help her get a job at Harvard. For her entire political career she has made a mockery not only of those she’s supposed to be the champion of, the disenfranchised minorities they believe are being suppressed by White Privilege, she mocks the very people who were actually disenfranchised by White European Colonialists.
Native Americans.
How none of Warren’s handlers or the dim-bulbs at the DNC didn’t see this coming is beyond me.
But, you know, stupid is as stupid does. And Elizabeth Warren may be the stupidest politician on the national stage in my lifetime.
Because if there is one thing Warren’s DNA results prove is that as a Yankee from Massachusetts she is more likely the descendant of someone who owes reparations to the Cherokee than she is an ancestor of one of the victims on the Trail of Tears.
Someone should start a GoFundMe for that. Spreading Bull’s Reparations Fund.
Moreover, this entire affair highlights just how bad everything has become for the Democrats.
They pushed identity politics beyond the bounds of absurdity. And now Warren thought, at the last minute, before the biggest election in the party’s history, one where they rightly are fighting for their lives, and she meme’s herself into irrelevancy.


Warren will ultimately be crucified by the very people who put her on a pedestal, the insane Cultural Marxists who will throw her under the bus now for being exactly the person they accuse every other white person in America of being.
Because Warren’s stupidity here will only energize Trump supporters to go to the polls to put their thumb on the scale hoping to launch Lizzie and the rest of their lynch mob into the ash bin of history.
Fitting end to one of the most embarrassing political figures of the century.


More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-16/mesioux-movement-morose-when-warren-woke-world-without-her

Swordsmyth
10-16-2018, 06:29 PM
A recently resurfaced article written by a prominent genealogist explains how Europeans and Americans who have trace amounts of Native American DNA could have Asian ancestors.
In a thorough 2014 article (https://dna-explained.com/2014/05/21/finding-native-american-ethnic-results-in-germanic-people/) on her website DNA Explained, genealogist Roberta Estes explains that through ancient migrations and more recent Asian invasions of Europe, many North Americans and Europeans who take popular DNA tests may register trace amounts of Native American DNA due to common genes between the two long separated populations.
Estes explains that the Huns arrived in Europe and conquered great swaths of it in starting in 370 AD. They were eventually followed to Europe from Asia by the Maygars in the 800s and 900s, another Asian population that would eventually settle in modern day Hungary.
Much earlier in history, it is widely accepted by experts that most Native American populations came to North America through three ancient migrations (https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/1207/12072012-native-american-migration) from Asia and Eastern Europe.


She explained that a hypothetical person of Hungarian or German descent could be a good candidate for this occurrence.

“Since both the Hungarians and some Germanic people descend from Asian populations, as do Native Americans,” she wrote, “It’s not unrealistic to expect that, as populations, they share a genetic connection.”
After running tests on her hypothetical half German, half Hungarian candidate, Estes received results suggesting that the person could be as much as 0.27 per cent Native American according to at least one publicly available DNA test, in genes Estes says would likely have belonged to a Hunnic or Maygar ancestor.

More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/dna-expert-trace-amounts-of-native-american-dna-could-actually-be-asian/

Swordsmyth
10-16-2018, 06:31 PM
The Native American hoax just keep getting worse for Sen. Elizabeth “Pocahontas” Warren (D-Mass.).
According to a 2012 report (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2012/05/08/elizabeth-warren-ancestor-trail-of-tears/) from Breitbart, Warren’s claimed Native ancestry ties her directly back to a great-great-great grandfather who rounded up Cherokee Indians into a a government-organized stockade called Ross’s Landing in Tennessee, which was where the infamous trail of tears began.

More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/flashback-pocahontas-ancestor-corralled-cherokees-for-trail-of-tears-according-to-report/

oyarde
10-16-2018, 06:34 PM
I identify as a cigar store wooden Indian. Does that count? Do I get some free stuff?

No you get a woodpecker .

Swordsmyth
10-16-2018, 06:41 PM
No you get a woodpecker .

Maybe he could get some wooden nickels?

oyarde
10-16-2018, 06:41 PM
I do think we need to consider a RPF chip in to isolate , capture and store Specs Neanderthal DNA in case we need it later .

Swordsmyth
10-16-2018, 06:53 PM
I do think we need to consider a RPF chip in to isolate , capture and store Specs Neanderthal DNA in case we need it later .
We should also consider taking some DNA from Danke in that case, he may have even more Neanderthal in him than Specs.

oyarde
10-16-2018, 06:58 PM
We should also consider taking some DNA from Danke in that case, he may have even more Neanderthal in him than Specs.

The somali warlords have denied me access already to Dankes DNA , they are hiding something.

106459
10-16-2018, 07:14 PM
I'm a little late to the party, but I found this image hilarious, lmfao.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dpo3jIoU4AAVahe.jpg

ThePaleoLibertarian
10-16-2018, 08:19 PM
She's finished and totally by her own hand. If she runs, she'll get marginal support, but I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't run at all after this.

enhanced_deficit
10-16-2018, 08:21 PM
I'm still not convinced that EW is being paid by neocons to play this trivial game with Trump to raise her stature as an alternate puppet.

Pauls' Revere
10-16-2018, 08:43 PM
In the US you are considered legally black with 1 drop of negro blood in your history.

Just sayin'.

Link?

Carlybee
10-16-2018, 10:40 PM
I have never accepted scholarships or jobs based on race and would discourage all americans from participating in these barbaric , racist institutions like harvard .


Me either and my grandma is on the Dawes Roll.

Aratus
10-16-2018, 11:01 PM
We should also consider taking some DNA from Danke in that case, he may have even more Neanderthal in him than Specs.

But NEANDERTALs are easily the brainier species, over the aeons
modern humans became shorter & more gracile since the ICE AGE.
NEANDERTALs had 1500 cc of brain matter, we tend to have 1200
to 1300 cc as mature adults. Do not make simplistic assumptions!!!

Aratus
10-16-2018, 11:08 PM
I'm still not convinced that EW is being paid by
neocons to play this trivial game with Trump
to raise her stature as an alternate puppet.

Is the game like one of cards, she folds to Ms.Hillary
if half successful in 2o20 but she wins big if it's a 100%
as in totally clever gambit? Does Mr. Bernie have to be
on the moral high ground to win at all over H.C + E.W?

nikcers
10-16-2018, 11:30 PM
But NEANDERTALs are easily the brainier species, over the aeons
modern humans became shorter & more gracile since the ICE AGE.
NEANDERTALs had 1500 cc of brain matter, we tend to have 1200
to 1300 cc as mature adults. Do not make simplistic assumptions!!!

Some research suggests that its not all junk dna and there are actual inherited traits.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8vYSiKE3E4

Ender
10-17-2018, 11:54 AM
Link?

Apparently the law was negated in the 1980s but here are a few links about the 1 drop rule.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jefferson/mixed/onedrop.html

http://www.encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/entry-detail.aspx?entryID=5365

https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/06/us/louisiana-repeals-black-blood-law.html

https://www.facebook.com/notes/greatest-africans-in-our-story/one-drop-rule-the-law-that-classifies-an-american-to-be-black-negro-or-now-afric/861546730524013

Philhelm
10-17-2018, 12:21 PM
1/512 ???

LOL

By that standard, I'm Sitting $#@!ing Bull.

Even Jim Crow laws wouldn't have applied.

specsaregood
10-17-2018, 12:24 PM
We should also consider taking some DNA from Danke in that case, he may have even more Neanderthal in him than Specs.

DW has almost as much as me. I tested with 311 Neanderthal variants, she with 304. It put us in the top 8% and 13% of all people tested on 23andme. With our kid, we are helping bringing back the bloodline.

Philhelm
10-17-2018, 03:26 PM
Like I said- I'm no Warren fan but this has always seemed blown waaaay outta proportion.

I disagree, since identity politics have gotten way out of control. Here we have a person from a political party that constantly harps on about race, cultural appropriation, etc. These are people that come up with articles about how we can't let white children dress up like non-white Disney characters. These people are demented and can go fuck themselves.

I expected Elizabeth Warrant to have a bullshit 1/32 or 1/64 Native American ancestry, but 1/1024th? Is she fucking kidding? She used her supposed Native ancestry to enrich herself, but she's a total fraud. My two daughters are blonde-haired, 1/4th Mexicans, so I think that for Halloween I'm going to put some bronzer on them and give them sombreros and thick, black mustaches. Anyone that complains about racism or appropriation can get fucked. It wouldn't be nearly as bad as Elizabeth Warrant and Pow Wow Chow.

specsaregood
10-17-2018, 04:06 PM
I disagree, since identity politics have gotten way out of control. Here we have a person from a political party that constantly harps on about race, cultural appropriation, etc. These are people that come up with articles about how we can't let white children dress up like non-white Disney characters. These people are demented and can go fuck themselves.

I expected Elizabeth Warrant to have a bullshit 1/32 or 1/64 Native American ancestry, but 1/1024th? Is she fucking kidding? She used her supposed Native ancestry to enrich herself, but she's a total fraud. My two daughters are blonde-haired, 1/4th Mexicans, so I think that for Halloween I'm going to put some bronzer on them and give them sombreros and thick, black mustaches. Anyone that complains about racism or appropriation can get fucked. It wouldn't be nearly as bad as Elizabeth Warrant and Pow Wow Chow.

My DNA profile also showed that I was .1% west African. I wish I would have known back then, I would have applied for some NAACP scholarships.

oyarde
10-17-2018, 04:48 PM
But NEANDERTALs are easily the brainier species, over the aeons
modern humans became shorter & more gracile since the ICE AGE.
NEANDERTALs had 1500 cc of brain matter, we tend to have 1200
to 1300 cc as mature adults. Do not make simplistic assumptions!!!

So Specs had an unfair advantage , that is why he is so smart .

Swordsmyth
10-17-2018, 06:32 PM
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/239333_image.jpg

Danke
10-17-2018, 06:36 PM
I disagree, since identity politics have gotten way out of control. Here we have a person from a political party that constantly harps on about race, cultural appropriation, etc. These are people that come up with articles about how we can't let white children dress up like non-white Disney characters. These people are demented and can go fuck themselves.

I expected Elizabeth Warrant to have a bullshit 1/32 or 1/64 Native American ancestry, but 1/1024th? Is she fucking kidding? She used her supposed Native ancestry to enrich herself, but she's a total fraud. My two daughters are blonde-haired, 1/4th Mexicans, so I think that for Halloween I'm going to put some bronzer on them and give them sombreros and thick, black mustaches. Anyone that complains about racism or appropriation can get fucked. It wouldn't be nearly as bad as Elizabeth Warrant and Pow Wow Chow.

That's gonna be tough someday when you have to break that to them.

Pauls' Revere
10-17-2018, 07:23 PM
Apparently the law was negated in the 1980s but here are a few links about the 1 drop rule.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jefferson/mixed/onedrop.html

http://www.encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/entry-detail.aspx?entryID=5365

https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/06/us/louisiana-repeals-black-blood-law.html

https://www.facebook.com/notes/greatest-africans-in-our-story/one-drop-rule-the-law-that-classifies-an-american-to-be-black-negro-or-now-afric/861546730524013

Thank you for the follow through. So, up until 1980 I was African-American?

Cleaner44
10-17-2018, 07:38 PM
So if we are to believe the story from Warren, her Grandfather was such a white supremacist that he didn't want his son to marry a woman with 1/512 non-pure-white blood. The real story is that Warren is the spawn of a Nazi!

Aratus
10-17-2018, 07:48 PM
So if we are to believe the story from Warren, her Grandfather was such a white supremacist that he didn't want his son to marry a woman with 1/512 non-pure-white blood. The real story is that Warren is the spawn of a Nazi!

If he did not carry a party card or heel click when wearing his fancy fantasy uniform, technically
he wasn't a classic 1930s era 5th column silver~shirted Nazi. Only the typical phobic racist bigot
of the era who might have bordered on eugenics fixated triple*K who'd do a Henry Ford pruning
of the branches of the family tree. Hillary had GOP parents who voted for AuH2O in 64, it is most
likely E.W's grandparents were bigoted & racist Dixiecrats, if they were that fussy about a drop of...

euphemia
10-17-2018, 08:20 PM
In the US you are considered legally black with 1 drop of negro blood in your history.

Just sayin'.

Yes. The first time I heard that was probably on a Phil Donahue show back in the 70s. I was like :confused:. And people want to talk about cultural appropriation when someone wears a sombrero to a party.

Danke
10-17-2018, 09:01 PM
Yes. The first time I heard that was probably on a Phil Donahue show back in the 70s. I was like :confused:. And people want to talk about cultural appropriation when someone wears a sombrero to a party.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/25/article-0-183CED2100000578-507_634x606.jpg

dannno
10-17-2018, 09:43 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/25/article-0-183CED2100000578-507_634x606.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0PEm5kJPRU

Ender
10-17-2018, 09:49 PM
Thank you for the follow through. So, up until 1980 I was African-American?

Same with my family. :speaknoevil:

tod evans
10-18-2018, 02:49 AM
We should also consider taking some DNA from Danke in that case, he may have even more Neanderthal in him than Specs.

Who is this "we" you speak of?

I'll have NOTHING to do with any of the Danke DNA spread far and wide!

Danke
10-18-2018, 03:04 AM
Who is this "we" you speak of?

I'll have NOTHING to do with any of the Danke DNA spread far and wide!

https://i.imgflip.com/117tqf.jpg

timosman
10-18-2018, 03:39 PM
https://twitter.com/jasoninthehouse/status/1052954434739757056
1052954434739757056

Swordsmyth
10-18-2018, 09:42 PM
A direct descendant of Pocahontas, the famed 17th-century Powhatan princess, is calling on Sen. Elizabeth Warren to apologize for wrongly claiming to be Native American — just for political gain.
Debbie White Dove Porreco, appearing on “Tucker Carlson Tonight" on Tuesday, derided the Massachusetts Democrat after Warren released results of a DNA test that showed she had between 1.5% and .09% Native American blood.
"It did prove that she wasn't the Cherokee Indian that she was claiming to be for so long," Porreco said. "I think she's guilty of claiming she's an American Indian but has no proof — and then [is] using it for applications for college and for political reasons."
"She needs to ... apologize to everybody for what she has done," Porreco said, adding that Native Americans "feel betrayed, they feel disappointed."

More at: https://www.dailywire.com/news/37255/pocahontas-descendant-lambastes-elizabeth-warren-joseph-curl

Philhelm
10-19-2018, 11:29 AM
If a "person of color" (POC) has 1/1024th white European ancestry, does that make the person white and no longer a POC? Or does this only work one way? There seems to be an inherent racism in leftist racial calculus.

CaptUSA
10-19-2018, 11:44 AM
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/239333_image.jpg

I just leased this Jeep. Guess what I'm naming it?

https://f8e623acecb375062b3c-5af0e703b581a04ced20a15d018f8d6f.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.c om/1C4PJMBX5KD125648/575b78a61079e8ac432ea16079e5a639.jpg

You know... because it's a white vehicle that came with a label saying it's a Cherokee Trailhawk. Liz.

Ender
10-19-2018, 01:01 PM
Again- I am NOT a Warren fan- that said:

The "Warren Indian BS" was started by a political opponent. HE claimed she had lied about being Indian for scholarships/jobs etc. This has been disputed by both the university and

The Globe did an extensive study of this.


The Globe closely reviewed the records, verified them where possible, and conducted more than 100 interviews with her colleagues and every person who had a role in hiring decisions about Warren who could be reached. In sum, it is clear that Warren was viewed as a white woman by the hiring committees at every institution that employed her.

Warren’s political enemies have long pushed a narrative that her unsubstantiated claims of Native American heritage turbocharged her legal career. But it is clear that Warren was viewed as a white woman by the hiring committees at every institution that employed her.
Among the records were some never examined before by a newspaper, including one key form that a University of Pennsylvania professor kept tucked away for three decades.

That previously undisclosed report reveals that the hiring committee at Penn, where Warren worked from 1987 to 1995, viewed her as a white female applicant. Moreover, the committee went to some pains to explain on this form why she was selected over several minorities to fill a faculty position.

I understand her family Indian affiliation as Indian stories have been passed down through my family, as well. Supposedly I am 1/16 Indian, but I look like Legolas and have never had my DNA done.

And, the main reason I bring this up is that we should be looking at politicians for their POVs and not let some stupid unsubstantiated carpe that came from an opponent, take up pages on the forum.

dannno
10-19-2018, 01:32 PM
Again- I am NOT a Warren fan- that said:

The "Warren Indian BS" was started by a political opponent. HE claimed she had lied about being Indian for scholarships/jobs etc. This has been disputed by both the university and

The Globe did an extensive study of this.



I understand her family Indian affiliation as Indian stories have been passed down through my family, as well. Supposedly I am 1/16 Indian, but I look like Legolas and have never had my DNA done.

And, the main reason I bring this up is that we should be looking at politicians for their POVs and not let some stupid unsubstantiated carpe that came from an opponent, take up pages on the forum.

Wow, thanks politifact for clearing that up..

I guess the only question that remains is why she then took the DNA test and came out to claim that it proved she was Native American..



"At some point after I was hired by them, I also provided that information to the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard,’’ she said in a statement issued by her campaign. "My Native American heritage is part of who I am, I’m proud of it, and I have been open about it.’’

-Elizabeth Warren



In 1984, a cousin in Oklahoma asked her to contribute recipes for a cookbook (https://web.archive.org/web/20121124092525/http://bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view.bg?articleid=1061132202) billed as "recipes passed down through the Five Tribes families." The book was entitled Pow Wow Chow.Warren sent five (http://www.weeklystandard.com/warren-contributed-recipes-to-pow-wow-chow-cookbook/article/645113), and under each one, listed herself as Elizabeth Warren, Cherokee.

Danke
10-19-2018, 02:04 PM
Again- I am NOT a Warren fan- that said:


https://i.imgflip.com/1sel5b.gif (https://imgflip.com/gif/1sel5b)

thoughtomator
10-19-2018, 02:16 PM
This woman is literally whiter than IVORY soap: 99.90% vs. 99.44%.

She's been riding the "Indian heritage" gravy train, and so has Harvard by using her in this way, and by any objective analysis it's a complete fraud.

She could possibly be the single whitest person in America, she is that white.

What this exposes is that the Left's ideology is straight up "white = bad". 1023 out of 1024 parts of this woman are white and she selects the 1024th part to identify with specifically because it's not white.

How much more racist an ideology could these people have?

Dr.3D
10-19-2018, 02:24 PM
Maybe she meant to imply she is a Trans-Native American.

Swordsmyth
10-19-2018, 04:33 PM
Again- I am NOT a Warren fan- that said:

The "Warren Indian BS" was started by a political opponent. HE claimed she had lied about being Indian for scholarships/jobs etc. This has been disputed by both the university and

The Globe did an extensive study of this.



I understand her family Indian affiliation as Indian stories have been passed down through my family, as well. Supposedly I am 1/16 Indian, but I look like Legolas and have never had my DNA done.

And, the main reason I bring this up is that we should be looking at politicians for their POVs and not let some stupid unsubstantiated carpe that came from an opponent, take up pages on the forum.
Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren released the results of a DNA test Monday that show she likely has a Native American ancestor between six and 10 generations back, but a Harvard Law School spokesman was calling her the school’s only Native American professor as early as Oct. 22, 1996, in a Harvard Crimson article.
“Although the conventional wisdom among students and faculty is that the Law School faculty includes no minority women, [spokesperson Mike] Chmura said Professor of Law Elizabeth Warren is Native American,” read the article (https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1996/10/22/survey-diversity-lacking-at-hls-pa/), which was titled “Survey: Diversity Lacking at HLS.”
Warren has identified herself as Cherokee in the past and Monday released the results of a DNA test (https://mk0elizabethwarh5ore.kinstacdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Bustamante_Report_2018.pdf) that shows she very likely had a Native American ancestor six to 10 generations ago.
She was identified as Harvard Law School’s one Native American professor in the 1996 article.


Warren grew up in Norman, Oklahoma. She has claimed her parents had to elope because of her mother’s Native American heritage (https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/15/kellyanne-conway-warren-dna-test/).
“As a kid, I never asked my mom about documentation when she talked about our Native American heritage,” Warren said in a 2012 campaign ad (https://youtu.be/4oIVinDXzOw), according to PolitiFact (https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/dec/01/facts-behind-elizabeth-warren-and-her-native-ameri/). “What kid would? But I knew my father’s family didn’t like that she was part Cherokee and part Delaware. So my parents had to elope.”

More at: https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/15/harvard-elizabeth-warren-native-american/

She has tried to profit from the claim for a long time, The Globe is whitewashing.

PierzStyx
10-19-2018, 04:47 PM
“The facts suggest that you absolutely have a Native American ancestor in your pedigree,” Bustamante replies.

*An* ancestor does not make one Native American. I've got some Cherokee in me. Am an Indian now? No. I am not. Furthe rif you go to teh Boston Globe and read the actual report it says she also has


95% European ancestry

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/10/15/read-results-warren-dna-test/mBPi8QxENhtHHTP2B1fFBO/story.html

In other words, Elizabeth Warren is a "fake Pocahontas" trying to play on a trivial amount of her ancestry to appear like a "diverse minority" in order to win political support from people in her party.

Anti Globalist
10-19-2018, 05:58 PM
I was gonna make a Cherokee jeep joke but it looks like I've been beaten to the punch.

ThePaleoLibertarian
10-19-2018, 07:45 PM
Again- I am NOT a Warren fan- that said:

The "Warren Indian BS" was started by a political opponent. HE claimed she had lied about being Indian for scholarships/jobs etc. This has been disputed by both the university and

The Globe did an extensive study of this.



I understand her family Indian affiliation as Indian stories have been passed down through my family, as well. Supposedly I am 1/16 Indian, but I look like Legolas and have never had my DNA done.

And, the main reason I bring this up is that we should be looking at politicians for their POVs and not let some stupid unsubstantiated carpe that came from an opponent, take up pages on the forum.
Elizabeth Warren:

1. Checked the Native box when at Harvard
2. Was referred to as the "first woman of color" in her department while at Harvard
3. Contributed to an Amerindian cookbook called -- I shit you not -- Pow Wow Chow where she referred to herself as Cherokee
4. Claimed her parents had to elope because her father's family didn't want him to marry Cherokee/Delaware woman

This spin is a bullshit narrative attempting to retcon what is clearly decades of a woman masquerading as something she was not. I don't doubt she would call herself white when it benefitted her, then flit back to being Cherokee or Delaware or whatever.

Swordsmyth
10-19-2018, 08:04 PM
Elizabeth Warren:

1. Checked the Native box when at Harvard
2. Was referred to as the "first woman of color" in her department while at Harvard
3. Contributed to an Amerindian cookbook called -- I $#@! you not -- Pow Wow Chow where she referred to herself as Cherokee
4. Claimed her parents had to elope because her father's family didn't want him to marry Cherokee/Delaware woman

This spin is a bull$#@! narrative attempting to retcon what is clearly decades of a woman masquerading as something she was not. I don't doubt she would call herself white when it benefitted her, then flit back to being Cherokee or Delaware or whatever.

When even Pierz gets it right and Ender gets it wrong what does that say about Ender?

Ender
10-19-2018, 10:49 PM
When even Pierz gets it right and Ender gets it wrong what does that say about Ender?

Whatever, Mr Name-Caller.

My point was why is this so newsworthy instead of all the real stuff that destroying liberty- like the lies about Iran?

Swordsmyth
10-19-2018, 10:51 PM
Whatever, Mr Name-Caller.

My point was why is this so newsworthy instead of all the real stuff that destroying liberty- like the lies about Iran?
Because we can walk and chew gum at the same time and Warren had been planning to run against Trump in 2020 to try to destroy liberty in many ways.

AZJoe
10-20-2018, 10:28 AM
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Danke
10-28-2018, 03:19 AM
6163

Aratus
10-28-2018, 03:26 AM
Duckies... Motivate me to cast a vote for the GOP guy up here, who is running
against her. I am so tempted to do a write in vote for myself just to confuse the
count. Promise me y'all will remind me to run against nice Mr.Ed Markey up here.

Aratus
10-28-2018, 03:28 AM
She is about to win her senate seat again.
Ed Markey is slightly more vulnerable. Their
voters often overlap. Motivate me. Be nice!

Aratus
10-28-2018, 03:30 AM
D.Trump has to get thru 2o19 before he can toy with revving up for 2o20 in full.
the Democrats may want wise Senator Mitt Romney to vote along with them all.

Aratus
10-28-2018, 03:32 AM
Sen. Mitch McConnell for the next two years is going to have to get to
JUNIOR SENATOR FLIPFLOP FLIPFLOP from Utah. Mitt is well liked, too.

Aratus
10-28-2018, 03:36 AM
Senator Mitt could hold DJT's fate in his hands.
if Mitt flipflops GOP on a particular day, DJT is
spared. He, not Pence runs in 2o20. If he is (D)
on a given near to identical day, he carries 3 to
5 or more Senators with him. Mitt = charismatic

Aratus
10-28-2018, 03:37 AM
Once again, flipflop flipflop flipflop
also is the sound of Mitt
trying to vote...

Aratus
10-28-2018, 03:43 AM
GOP

Swordsmyth
10-28-2018, 07:36 PM
6163
She shouldn't have flown over Oyarde's land.

Swordsmyth
10-28-2018, 07:37 PM
She is about to win her senate seat again.
Ed Markey is slightly more vulnerable. Their
voters often overlap. Motivate me. Be nice!
Do it for Oyarde.

Danke
10-28-2018, 07:51 PM
She shouldn't have flown over Oyarde's land.
oyarde's reservation is big and hard to avoid,

oyarde
10-28-2018, 07:58 PM
I claim my air space so unless someone has pre negotiated safe passage with a security deposit to me they are trespassers and deadbeats .

Swordsmyth
10-28-2018, 08:03 PM
@oyarde (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=27246)'s reservation is big and hard to avoid,
How many of his arrows have you had to remove from your planes?

Danke
10-28-2018, 08:10 PM
How many of his arrows have had to remove from your planes?


I use standoff weapons.

Aratus
10-28-2018, 09:23 PM
:) now for my daily threadbump that ties into things said here!

oyarde
10-28-2018, 09:35 PM
oyarde's reservation is big and hard to avoid,

Once my Great Coup is complete and I retake all my Ancestoral lands my territory will be vast and there will be no more taxes , only tolls on undesireables like people from Illinois and airplanes that wish to pass through. These tolls will fund the new , lean and limited public provided services , I will be a most beloved dictator by all in my empire .

AZJoe
01-03-2019, 03:47 PM
1080858959404240896

Anti Globalist
01-04-2019, 09:10 AM
Warren is wasting her time running for POTUS. As far as I’m concerned Trump already put her to bed. Maybe try running in 2024 where you’ll face someone thats not Trump.

shakey1
01-04-2019, 09:14 AM
Just another neoliberal POS.

Danke
01-04-2019, 09:57 AM
6306

6307

6311

Danke
01-04-2019, 10:02 AM
6308

6309

AZJoe
03-20-2019, 09:39 PM
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