President Trump says Defense Secretary Mattis is 'sort of a Democrat' and may leave

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/10/14/donald-trump-jim-mattis-defense-secretary/1640214002/


WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump described his defense secretary as "sort of a Democrat" and said he may leave the administration after the midterm elections in an interview airing on "60 Minutes" Sunday.

"He may leave," Trump said of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, according to an interview excerpt released by CBS News. "I mean, at some point, everybody leaves. Everybody. People leave. That's Washington."

The New York Times reported last month that Trump may have soured on Mattis. In addition to thinking that Mattis is a Democrat at heart, The Times said, Trump doesn't like being unfavorably compared to Mattis.

For his part, the defense secretary has said Trump acts as if he has the understanding of a fifth- or sixth-grader, according to Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward's recently published book "Fear."

Asked if he wants Mattis gone, Trump told 60 Minutes that he has a "very good relationship" with the defense secretary, whom he called a "good guy."

But, Trump said, "it could be" that Mattis is leaving.

"I think he's sort of a Democrat, if you want to know the truth," Trump said.

After his first year in office, Trump's administration already had the highest rate of turnover among White House staff in decades, according to the Brookings Institution.

The latest high-profile figure to announce her departure was Nikki Haley, Trump's ambassador to the United Nations, who is stepping down at the end of the year.

[CaptUSA]

Well, so, Trump’s sort of a Democrat, too. So there’s that.

[TheCount]

Well, so, Trump’s sort of a Democrat, too. So there’s that.

A different flavor of democrat, evidently.

When the SecDef is less of a hawk than the President... well... that's probably not a good sign.

[Swordsmyth]

When the SecDef is less of a hawk than the President... well... that's probably not a good sign.
LOL, Mattis is one of the people who gets in the way of Trump pulling the troops out of Afghanistan and Syria etc.

We will have to see if he actually leaves and who replaces him but this could be very good.

[TheCount]

LOL, Mattis is one of the people who gets in the way of Trump pulling the troops out of Afghanistan and Syria etc.

That's just some fantasy bullshit that Trumpkins make up to make themselves feel better, like how Ivanka and Ronald McDonald forced Trump into cruise missile strikes on Syria.

[enhanced_deficit]

Well, so, Trump’s sort of a Democrat, too. So there’s that.

Just cuz he sort of funded Obama's Chief of Staff's election campaign makes him of sort of democrat?
Tough crowd here.

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-HA817_Rahm_G_20150219182119.jpg

Trump donated $50,000 to Rahm Emanuel’s 2010 Chicago mayoral campaign.
https://variety.com/2017/biz/news/ari-emanuel-wme-trump-political-action-committee-1201981545/

That was soon after Rahm served as Obama White House Chief of Staff.

[milgram]

Is this fantasy bullshit? If so please provide a truthful refutation.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/could-trump-take-down-the-american-empire/#


Trump had entered the White House with a clear commitment to ending U.S. military interventions, based on a worldview in which fighting wars in the pursuit of military dominance has no place. In the last speech of his “victory tour” in December 2016, Trump vowed, “We will stop racing to topple foreign regimes that we knew nothing about, that we shouldn’t be involved with.” Instead of investing in wars, he said, he would invest in rebuilding America’s crumbling infrastructure.

In a meeting with his national security team in the summer of 2017, in which Secretary of Defense James Mattis recommended new military measures against Islamic State affiliates in North Africa, Trump expressed his frustration with the unending wars. “You guys want me to send troops everywhere,” Trump said, according to a Washington Post report. “What’s the justification?”

Mattis replied, “Sir, we’re doing it to prevent a bomb from going off in Times Square,” to which Trump angrily retorted that the same argument could be made about virtually any country on the planet.
...
Mattis used the standard Bush and Obama administration rhetoric of globalism, according to the meeting notes provided to Woodward. He asserted that the “rules-based, international democratic order”—the term used to describe the global structure of U.S. military and military power—had brought security and prosperity. Tillerson, ignoring decades of U.S. destabilizing wars in Southeast Asia and the Middle East, chimed in, saying, “This is what has kept the peace for 70 years.”

Trump said nothing, according to Woodward’s account, but simply shook his head in disagreement. He eventually steered the discussion to an issue that was particularly irritating to him: U.S. military and economic relations with South Korea. “We spend $3.5 billion a year to have troops in South Korea,” Trump complained. “I don’t know why they’re there. … Let’s bring them all home!”
...
Mattis portrayed the troop presence in South Korea as a great security bargain. “Forward-positioned troops provide the least costly means of achieving our security objectives,” he said, “and withdrawal would lead our allies to lose all confidence in us.” The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Joseph Dunford, argued that South Korea was reimbursing the United States $800 million a year out of the total cost of $2 billion, thus subsidizing the United States for something it would do in its own interests anyway.

But such arguments made no impression on Trump, who saw no value in having troops abroad at a time when the United States itself was crumbling. “We have [spent] $7 trillion in the Middle East,” Trump said at the end of the meeting. “We can’t even muster $1 trillion for domestic infrastructure.”

[enhanced_deficit]

LOL, Mattis is one of the people who gets in the way of Trump pulling the troops out of Afghanistan and Syria etc.

We will have to see if he actually leaves and who replaces him but this could be very good.


I thought Bolton and Pompoeo were getting in the way of ending foreign interventions and starting new tensions with Iran/Syria?


This is amazing 5-D chess when so many best people MAGA has surroundied him self with keep getting im his way.

Looking at all the people who have left or rumored to be leaving soon, perhaps everyone in the best crowd is in his way... other than widely respected senior advisors and anti-nepotism champions Kushner and Ivanka.

[homahr]

Mattis' irrational hatred of Iran is highly amusing. It's like hating the guy who slept with your wife when he didn't know that she was a married woman.

[Zippyjuan]

Is this fantasy bull$#@!? If so please provide a truthful refutation.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/could-trump-take-down-the-american-empire/#

Yeah, Trump was totally against any military actions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_35yJpVyAA

[Influenza]

LOL, Mattis is one of the people who gets in the way of Trump pulling the troops out of Afghanistan and Syria etc.

We will have to see if he actually leaves and who replaces him but this could be very good.
Marianas trench IQ

[jmdrake]

Yeah, Trump was totally against any military actions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_35yJpVyAA

Being non-interventionist != being totally against any military actions ever. Ron Paul supported going after Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Bombing daesh, a terrorist regime with no legitimacy, is no different. And note I'm not a Trump fan. The truth is that Obama was leaving daesh alone and going after Assad. Horrible, horrible strategy if you are actually against Islamic terrorism.

[Jamesiv1]

It displeases the MAGA for inner circle members to be crypto-democrats.

[dannno]

When the SecDef is less of a hawk than the President... well... that's probably not a good sign.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/50eb9ea3216d6beea4b19cd1c525d50a/tenor.gif?itemid=5516039

[Swordsmyth]

Marianas trench IQ

And still higher than yours even if you are right.

[oyarde]

I am more interested to here opinions on what " sort of a democrat " means . When I was a kid that could mean they could not read well and belonged to the KKK , participated in incest etc These days it is probably more modern , support killing babies , welfare etc

[Swordsmyth]

I am more interested to here opinions on what " sort of a democrat " means . When I was a kid that could mean they could not read well and belonged to the KKK , participated in incest etc These days it is probably more modern , support killing babies , welfare etc
He has refused to implement Trump's Tranny ban in the military for one thing.

[oyarde]

He has refused to implement Trump's Tranny ban in the military for one thing.

A Marine General refusing a tranny ban ? Yep , a future dem primary candidate for president with an Anti american greatness plan.

[enhanced_deficit]

It displeases the MAGA for inner circle members to be crypto-democrats.

Are you referring to inner-most Jarvanka circle?

If so, conservative base rock star Steve Bannon disapproves.

[TheCount]

Is this fantasy bullshit? If so please provide a truthful refutation.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/could-trump-take-down-the-american-empire/#


Here's where the fantasy comes in:

Do you believe everything else that was alleged in Bob Woodward's book, or just this one thing?

[r3volution 3.0]

Trump had entered the White House with a clear commitment to ending U.S. military interventions, based on a worldview in which fighting wars in the pursuit of military dominance has no place.

Is this fantasy bullshit? If so please provide a truthful refutation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTqoz0RYvVM


That's just some fantasy bullshit that Trumpkins make up to make themselves feel better, like how Ivanka and Ronald McDonald forced Trump into cruise missile strikes on Syria.

https://i.imgflip.com/2k6tuc.jpg

[Swordsmyth]

https://i.imgflip.com/2k6tuc.jpg

Nice selfie.

[enhanced_deficit]

Kelly may also be on the exit list.


Kelly questions what Kushner, Ivanka Trump do all day: report



https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376726-kelly-questions-what-kushner-ivanka-trump-do-all-day-report

[milgram]

Here's where the fantasy comes in:

Do you believe everything else that was alleged in Bob Woodward's book, or just this one thing?

Trying to weasel out of it now? I haven't read Bob Woodward's book. I have read this article. Those exchanges do not conflict with anything else I have seen.
It could be accurate or it could be bullshit, but what I believe is irrelevant to the facts. Go ahead and provide those facts. If that part of the book is inaccurate, I want to know about it. You made the claim that Trump was more of a hawk than Mattis.

[Ender]

Trying to weasel out of it now? I haven't read Bob Woodward's book. I have read this article. Those exchanges do not conflict with anything else I have seen.
It could be accurate or it could be bull$#@!, but what I believe is irrelevant to the facts. Go ahead and provide those facts. If that part of the book is inaccurate, I want to know about it. You made the claim that Trump was more of a hawk than Mattis.

It was obvious to me that Trump was a hawk with his rhetoric against Iran in the primaries & then canceling the Iran Deal- and now calling Iran the biggest terrorist threat in the ME.

[Aratus]

Irregardless of whether it's a RED, BLUE or PURPLE wave,
D.Trump is going to fire 5 d.c people in a bigly way in NOV!

[TheCount]

Trying to weasel out of it now? I haven't read Bob Woodward's book. I have read this article. Those exchanges do not conflict with anything else I have seen.
It could be accurate or it could be bullshit, but what I believe is irrelevant to the facts. Go ahead and provide those facts. If that part of the book is inaccurate, I want to know about it. You made the claim that Trump was more of a hawk than Mattis.

What you believe is actually quite relevant. There are other anonymously sourced things in that same book which portray Trump as more of a hawk than Mattis. Which will you choose to believe?


Trump talking about invading Venezuela (which he suggested in public (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-im-not-going-to-rule-out-a-military-option-for-venezuela-2017-8))?


Donald Trump (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/donaldtrump) repeatedly raised the possibility of invading Venezuela in talks with his top aides at the White House, according to a new report.Trump brought up the subject of an invasion in public in August last year, saying: “We have many options for Venezuela (https://www.theguardian.com/world/venezuela), including a possible military option, if necessary.” But the president’s musings about the possibility of a US invasion were more extensive and persistent than that public declaration, according to the Associated Press.

The previous day Trump reportedly took his top officials by surprise in an Oval Office meeting, asking why the US could not intervene to remove the government of Nicolás Maduro on the grounds that Venezuela’s political and economic unraveling represented a threat to the region.

Quoting an unnamed senior administration official, the AP report said the suggestion stunned those present at the meeting, which included the then national security adviser, HR McMaster, and secretary of state, Rex Tillerson. Both have since left the administration.

The administration officials are said to have taken turns in trying to talk him out of the idea, pointing out that any such military action would alienate Latin American allies who had supported the US policy of punitive sanctions on the Maduro regime.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/04/trump-suggested-invading-venezuela-report


Trump talking about assassinating Assad?


Woodward also claims that when Trump called up Mattis and suggested the United States “fucking kill” Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for using chemical weapons against civilians in 2017, Mattis played along but then hung up the phone and told an aide, “We’re not going to do any of that,” and instead drew up plans for more limited air strikes that Trump ultimately authorized.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/09/mattis-woodward-trump/569350/


Or other anonymously sourced things:


Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump quashed Defense Secretary James Mattis' suggestion to obtain congressional authorization ahead of last week's strikes in Syria, military and administration officials told The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/us/politics/jim-mattis-trump-syria-attack.html).

According to the Times report, the officials said Trump's choice to override Mattis' guidance to get congressional approval for the strikes was because he wanted his tweets to be supported by action, despite warnings that not erring on the side of caution could precipitate a larger dispute with Russia.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/17/politics/trump-mattis-syria-strike/index.html


Then there are provable things said in public like about the Iran deal:


Defense Secretary James Mattis (https://thehill.com/people/james-mattis) on Thursday praised certain parts of the Iran nuclear deal, as President Trump (https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) repeatedly bashed the multination agreement this week and and threatened to pull the United States out of it.

...

Mattis has said in the past that the deal, known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, isn’t perfect, but that staying in it would be in America's national security interest.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/385094-mattis-defends-iran-deal-as-trump-considers-withdrawal

[milgram]

What you believe is actually quite relevant. There are other anonymously sourced things in that same book which portray Trump as more of a hawk than Mattis. Which will you choose to believe?

Trump could more of a hawk than Mattis on some issues. It sounds like he is. I have never said otherwise.

The specific issue is his position on troop withdrawl. You called it fantasy bullshit. Your position contradicts available reporting so I would like to hear why you are so sure of yourself. Revealingly you want to talk about everything else. To refresh your memory:



LOL, Mattis is one of the people who gets in the way of Trump pulling the troops out of Afghanistan and Syria etc.
That's just some fantasy bullshit that Trumpkins make up to make themselves feel better, like how Ivanka and Ronald McDonald forced Trump into cruise missile strikes on Syria.

Since I have asked for substantiation multiples times to no avail, it appears that you make glib comments but cannot back them up.

[homahr]

Not sure if Trump is actually 100% for 'troop withdrawal' from Syria/Afghanistan. He has made statement alluding to this when it comes to Syria. In Afghanistan, there are negotiations that may result in some troop pullout: Afghan Taliban officials: 'US agrees to discuss troops pullout' (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/10/afghan-taliban-officials-agrees-discuss-troops-pullout-181013134957130.html) but that is a Taliban statement, not a Trump statement.

Facts on the ground in Syria say otherwise: US troops will be in Syria for generations since Iran will never leave because if they do; a genocide of Christians and Shias will occur, Iran being Shia will not allow that to happen. Iran is also very protective of their Shia shrines in both Iraq and Syria. American and israeli supported Sunni terrorists want a genocide of Shias and Christians as well as the destruction of churches and Shia shrines. The US/israel/west with their non-recognition of the legitimate Syrian government headed by Bashar Assad is indirectly supporting the genocide of Christians in Syria.

[dannno]

Not sure if Trump is actually 100% for 'troop withdrawal' from Syria/Afghanistan. He has made statement alluding to this when it comes to Syria. In Afghanistan, there are negotiations that may result in some troop pullout: Afghan Taliban officials: 'US agrees to discuss troops pullout' (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/10/afghan-taliban-officials-agrees-discuss-troops-pullout-181013134957130.html) but that is a Taliban statement, not a Trump statement.

Facts on the ground in Syria say otherwise: US troops will be in Syria for generations since Iran will never leave because if they do; a genocide of Christians and Shias will occur, Iran being Shia will not allow that to happen. Iran is also very protective of their Shia shrines in both Iraq and Syria. American and israeli supported Sunni terrorists want a genocide of Shias and Christians as well as the destruction of churches and Shia shrines. The US/israel/west with their non-recognition of the legitimate Syrian government headed by Bashar Assad is indirectly supporting the genocide of Christians in Syria.


April 4, 2018

WASHINGTON — President Trump has instructed his military commanders to quickly wrap up the American military operation in Syria so that he can bring troops home within a few months, senior administration officials said on Wednesday. He dropped his insistence on an immediate withdrawal, they said, after commanders told him they needed time to complete their mission.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/world/middleeast/trump-syria-troops.html


289807790178959360


President Trump has ordered the Pentagon to prepare options for drawing down American troops in South Korea

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/03/world/asia/trump-troops-south-korea.html



Trump was reportedly surprised by the number of US troops stationed in Germany and expressed interest in pulling some of them out

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-troops-pulling-out-of-germany-trump-plans-study-2018-6

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/full-texts-of-donald-trumps-speech-on-south-asia-policy/article19538424.ece

Trump's own words:


My original instinct was to pull out -- and, historically, I like following my instincts. But all my life I've heard that decisions are much different when you sit behind the desk in the Oval Office; in other words, when you're President of the United States. So I studied Afghanistan in great detail and from every conceivable angle. After many meetings, over many months, we held our final meeting last Friday at Camp David, with my Cabinet and generals, to complete our strategy. I arrived at three fundamental conclusions about America’s core interests in Afghanistan.

First, our nation must seek an honorable and enduring outcome worthy of the tremendous sacrifices that have been made, especially the sacrifices of lives. The men and women who serve our nation in combat deserve a plan for victory. They deserve the tools they need, and the trust they have earned, to fight and to win.

Second, the consequences of a rapid exit are both predictable and unacceptable. 9/11, the worst terrorist attack in our history, was planned and directed from Afghanistan because that country was ruled by a government that gave comfort and shelter to terrorists. A hasty withdrawal would create a vacuum that terrorists, including ISIS and al Qaeda, would instantly fill, just as happened before September 11th.

And, as we know, in 2011, America hastily and mistakenly withdrew from Iraq. As a result, our hard-won gains slipped back into the hands of terrorist enemies. Our soldiers watched as cities they had fought for, and bled to liberate, and won, were occupied by a terrorist group called ISIS. The vacuum we created by leaving too soon gave safe haven for ISIS to spread, to grow, recruit, and launch attacks. We cannot repeat in Afghanistan the mistake our leaders made in Iraq.

Third and finally, I concluded that the security threats we face in Afghanistan and the broader region are immense. Today, 20 U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organizations are active in Afghanistan and Pakistan -- the highest concentration in any region anywhere in the world.


Conditions on the ground -- not arbitrary timetables -- will guide our strategy from now on. America’s enemies must never know our plans or believe they can wait us out. I will not say when we are going to attack, but attack we will.

Another fundamental pillar of our new strategy is the integration of all instruments of American power -- diplomatic, economic, and military -- toward a successful outcome.

Someday, after an effective military effort, perhaps it will be possible to have a political settlement that includes elements of the Taliban in Afghanistan, but nobody knows if or when that will ever happen. America will continue its support for the Afghan government and the Afghan military as they confront the Taliban in the field.


I have already lifted restrictions the previous administration placed on our warfighters that prevented the Secretary of Defense and our commanders in the field from fully and swiftly waging battle against the enemy. Micromanagement from Washington, D.C. does not win battles. They are won in the field drawing upon the judgment and expertise of wartime commanders and frontline soldiers acting in real time, with real authority, and with a clear mission to defeat the enemy.


When America commits its warriors to battle, we must ensure they have every weapon to apply swift, decisive, and overwhelming force.

Our troops will fight to win. We will fight to win. From now on, victory will have a clear definition: attacking our enemies, obliterating ISIS, crushing al Qaeda, preventing the Taliban from taking over Afghanistan, and stopping mass terror attacks against America before they emerge.

But Trump does change his position on things often.

[Influenza]

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/full-texts-of-donald-trumps-speech-on-south-asia-policy/article19538424.ece

Trump's own words:
You see, us rational folks ignore the things that Trump says that we don't like, and only pay attention to the things we do like.
(dannno ur IQ is almost certainly <80)

[homahr]

He dropped his insistence on an immediate withdrawal, they said, after commanders told him they needed time to complete their mission.

that could take a while if the mission is to make sure Iranian forces leave which will never happen. Iranian forces are also in Iraq in large numbers and that is where the US has a bigger presence than in Syria.

[dannno]

that could take a while if the mission is to make sure Iranian forces leave which will never happen. Iranian forces are also in Iraq in large numbers and that is where the US has a bigger presence than in Syria.

It will take forever if he listens to the same people forever. But he won't. At some point he will say something like, "hey look guys, I gave you the time you said you needed, and you failed. It's time to end this, the American people cannot afford to have these wars go on forever."

[TheCount]

Trump could more of a hawk than Mattis on some issues. It sounds like he is. I have never said otherwise.

Sweet.


The specific issue is his position on troop withdrawl. You called it fantasy bullshit. Your position contradicts available reporting so I would like to hear why you are so sure of yourself. Revealingly you want to talk about everything else. To refresh your memory:

No one knows whether that is true or not except the people in that room. Those people, by the way, have a lot to gain by continuing the meme of the mythical non-interventionist Trump. Everything that his base hates is always announced with a coincidental leak of oh well he wanted to not do it but he had to, guys, the mean Deep State made him. But next time, pinkie swear, he won't! Next time will be different!

As a result, I don't believe any of this, as I said, fantasy bullshit. He is the President, and he has not withdrawn troops from Afghanistan or Syria despite multiple, multiple claims of such by the fervent faithful. If he does want to pull out troops, obviously he doesn't feel that strongly about it.

[dannno]

Those people, by the way, have a lot to gain by continuing the meme of the mythical non-interventionist Trump.

https://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/system/images/photo_albums/willy-wonka-memeish/large/charlie-meme-16.jpg?1384968217

[TheCount]

https://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/system/images/photo_albums/willy-wonka-memeish/large/charlie-meme-16.jpg?1384968217


No, no, what happened was they brought him the bill, he was like wtf is this shit, they were like "OH we need to pass this ASAP btw or the govt shuts down..." Then Trump says, "I'm not signing this crap, I heard on the news it included a tunnel from NY to NJ.." So he threatened to veto it, then they said, "Oh, you MUST sign it, it has all this great military stuff in it, don't you like the military? You don't want to shut down the military do you? Think about the vets!! You've gotta sign it!!!!"

Then Trump was probably like, "Alright, well I hope there is nothing else really egregious I should know about in there, is there?"

"Oh no, Mr. President, all completely normal stuff, we promise!!"


Of course Trump didn't have time to read it, but when he finds out they put this stink bomb in there, he will be way more pissed than he was about a tunnel from NY to NJ...

Fantasy bullshit.

[dannno]

Fail.

Try again.

[TheCount]

Fail.

Try again.


Donald Trump’s son Eric Trump told the Telegraph he’s “sure” his sister, Ivanka Trump, played a role in the president of the United States deciding to attack a Syrian air base.

http://video.newsserve.net/v/20170409/1704091538-Ivanka-May-Have-Convinced-Trump-To-Bomb-Syria.jpg

Fantasy bullshit.

[TheCount]

The reason they kicked him out now is because they are about to hold a debate at Camp David on the Afghanistan surge to try and convince Trump, because apparently Trump is not convinced that we should escalate the war in Afghanistan.

The debate is all pre-scripted, and they didn't want Bannon there mucking up their script. Because Bannon is against the Surge.

So Bannon is against the surge, Trump is against the surge.. Hillary is for the surge, all of the neocons and deep state are for the surge, and this is who is benefiting right now.


Fantasy bullshit. There's always an excuse. It's always someone else's fault, never Trump's.



Surge in Afghanistan is underway; 14,000 US troops now in country

WASHINGTON — There are now approximately 14,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, according to Lt. Gen. Kenneth F. McKenzie Jr., the Joint Staff Director.

The new estimate of U.S. forces in Afghanistan is about 3,000 higher than the 11,000 previously reported by the Pentagon earlier this year.

The number reflects the arrival of several thousand more troops as part of the Trump administration’s new South Asia strategy which is expected to raise U.S. troop levels in the region by just over 3,500 troops.


https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2017/11/16/trump-surge-in-afghanistan-is-underway-as-14000-us-troops-are-now-in-afghanistan/

[dannno]

Fantasy bullshit. There's always an excuse. It's always someone else's fault, never Trump's.




https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2017/11/16/trump-surge-in-afghanistan-is-underway-as-14000-us-troops-are-now-in-afghanistan/

I asked what they had to gain.

[TheCount]

I asked what they had to gain.

It's a Trumpsplanation of why poor poor Trump really didn't want to send more troops to Afghanistan, really, he wanted to withdraw them and end all wars everywhere and buy everyone ponies. But then Pence made him fire Bannon and then there weren't enough people around to hold his hand at Camp David and use their non-interventionist Care Bear Stare to defeat the mean deep state. And so Trump had to agree to a surge in Afghanistan.


Mike Pence strikes :rolleyes:

Fantasy bullshit.


Just like how Trump wanted to shrink the government but the mean deep state wouldn't let him and so he had to make it bigger instead:


Trump's only option would have been to make an agreement with the deep state to let him reduce the rate of growth for a couple years, but then in return he has to help them start another big war.


Fantasy bullshit.


At least half of your Trump posts read like a battered wife explaining why her black eye isn't her husband's fault.