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timosman
10-10-2018, 10:19 PM
https://kotaku.com/how-the-npc-meme-tries-to-dehumanize-sjws-1829552261


From time to time, and especially if you’re a fan of science fiction, you may have had the thought that nobody around you is actually real. That sentiment has taken root in anti-progressive parts of the internet as a dehumanizing meme, and it borrows some familiar gaming terminology.

About a month ago, a meme along those lines took root on 4chan and among anti-progressive online communities. It’s called the NPC meme and it goes like this: Out there in the world, there are literal NPCs—the term for non-playable characters in video games—who have no internality whatsoever. There are some giveaways, of course. They spit out canned lines—“Good weather today, huh?”—and flock to normie trends (are Ugg boots still a thing?) and, for the most part, share the same uncritical worldview. The classic melancholy meme Wojak, a sad man crudely drawn in Microsoft paint, has now received the NPC treatment with NPC Wojak:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/cn0jxepzvpli1anhtxa3.jpg

Part crackpot social theory and part elementary school insult, the NPC meme originated from a deeply comical medley of bogus physics and stupid religion found on the messaging board 4Chan. Originally posted in 2016, it resurfaced last month. “I have a theory that there are only a fixed quantity of souls on planet Earth that cycle continuously through reincarnation,” a 4Chan poster wrote. “However, since the human growth rate is so severe, the soulless extra walking flesh piles around us are NPC’s [sic], or ultimate normalfags, who autonomously follow group think and social trends in order to appear convingly human.” NPCs aren’t even worthy of a classic wake up, sheeple. They can’t!

Here’s where things get interesting. Around the time a lot of us were assigned to read The Catcher in the Rye in middle school, it was normal to have edgelord thoughts about phonies or being one of the few who is capital-A awake. The NPC meme takes things a step further into a political zone where mass outcry against, say, serial harassers, racial injustice, or Trumpian ideas is dismissed as not just inherently uncritical but prima facie evidence of a lack of human consciousness.

NPCs, the poster continued, “say the same shit,” including “SPORTSBALL,” “THE NEW ADELE SONG XD OMG” and “JUST BE YOURSELF.” The poster also cites a political example: “TRUMP IS HITLER,” adding:


“If you get in a discussion with them it’s always the same buzzwords and hackneyed arguments. They’re the kind of people who make a show of discomfort when you break the status quo like by breaking the normie barrier to invoke a real discussion. it’s like in a vidya [game] when you accidentally talk to somebody twice and they give you the exact same lines word for word once more.”

Essentially, some large portion of society (normies, pop-culture fanatics, and Trump-haters, among others) who speak in cliches are, in fact, NPCs with no internality, agency, or capacity for critical thought. Like townies in Pokemon idly parked outside the same house day and night, constantly ready with the same contrived one-liners, these IRL NPCs aren’t thinking for themselves. They can’t.

The two-year-old 4Chan post, despite its laughable premise, fueled a meme last month that has some scary implications. “How to tell when someone is an NPC,” wrote anti-SJW alt-right journalist Ian Miles Cheong on Twitter last month. (Update—8:15 pm: Cheong returned a request for comment to note that he does not consider himself to be alt-right). “Logic and facts in an argument do nothing to change their mind and only cause them to just repeat themselves ad infinitum. Like a limited dialogue script that loops on itself in a video game.” In the last month, Cheong has referred to several people as NPCs: An individual who insisted that the “okay” hand symbol, which has been misconstrued as a white supremacy symbol, is racist and using it is fireable; someone who might “read bell hooks in college to impress a girl in gender studies elective class”; people who “misuse the word ‘trauma’ to refer to any mildly uncomfortable experience”; and, ironically, a former New Yorker fact-checker who claimed on Twitter that “the vast majority of men simply do not consider women to be full human beings.”

In some corners of the internet, NPC is beginning to replace the term “SJW.” According to ex-World of Warcraft dev Mark Kern, NPCs have the following qualities: “Incapable of independent thought. Wants everything done for them. (Quests) Constantly needing coddling (escort quests).” He published his checklist after another developer accused him of being a “right wing hack.” The tweet evidently was meant to compare so-called SJWs to these NPCs.

It’s a now-common refrain on Reddit, with posts on /r/The_Donald saying, “The Left is just a meme of lunacy come to life. They’re just NPCs in the game of life” or, in reference to economic experts widely condemning tariffs, “here we are with one of the best economies in US history. Only brainwashed NPCs believe what ‘experts’ say when those claims are contradicted by reality!.”

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/sheeple.png

What makes this marginal, stale meme built on edgelord logic worth half a thought is what the idea of an NPC speaks to. NPCs have no agency; NPCs don’t think for themselves; NPCs don’t perceive, process, or understand; NPCs arrive at the same worldview not because it’s authentic to their experiences, but automatically. As a descriptor, it suggests that those to whom it applies aren’t even human, but are rather, functionally, robots, or clusters of computer code. That this has resonated as widely as it has is funny, but also a little scary.

It’s one thing to claim that a person’s strongly-held views are informed by nothing at all, but entirely another to imply that they’re completely on auto-pilot. That is dehumanization, a way of reconceiving your enemies as objects, pawns, strawmen, tools. At best, dismissing large swaths of people you disagree with this way betrays a lack of empathy for people whose experiences differ from yours, and an unwillingness to consider that if a vast number of people happen to agree over something, it may be good to examine why; at best, it is a great utility for spreading bogus conspiracy theories.

But who among us can say they’ve never mashed “A” as a some expository NPC rambled on, wishing all the while they had the option to silence them or worse?

Swordsmyth
10-10-2018, 10:31 PM
It is ridiculous (and obviously intended to be) but if they don't want to be mistaken for NPCs they should stop acting like NPCs.

thoughtomator
10-10-2018, 10:42 PM
There's no need to dehumanize SJWs. Communists aren't human to begin with.

Swordsmyth
10-11-2018, 12:05 AM
There's no need to dehumanize SJWs. Communists aren't human to begin with.

They have dehumanized themselves, it's not our fault if we notice.

eleganz
10-11-2018, 12:23 AM
https://i.redd.it/bxsoo62ulhr11.png

nikcers
10-11-2018, 12:42 AM
Oh no, not me
We never lost control
You're face to face
With the man who sold the world


https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/cn0jxepzvpli1anhtxa3.jpg

Golding
10-11-2018, 01:05 AM
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timosman
10-12-2018, 10:45 PM
https://twitter.com/SharzinL/status/1050758539516370944

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpULPXzU0AAXfC2.jpg

ThePaleoLibertarian
10-12-2018, 10:58 PM
NPCs are very real, or at least the meme gets at a very important truth. There are millions of people who have no real, rich, internal monologue. Whose taste in music is decided by the top 40, who see every Marvel film on opening weekend, who believe all the safe political opinions pre-packaged by Hollywood and the MSM and who take copious amounts of selfies. "NPC" is pretty nice compared to what they really are.

idiom
10-12-2018, 11:30 PM
NPCs are very real, or at least the meme gets at a very important truth. There are millions of people who have no real, rich, internal monologue. Whose taste in music is decided by the top 40, who see every Marvel film on opening weekend, who believe all the safe political opinions pre-packaged by Hollywood and the MSM and who take copious amounts of selfies. "NPC" is pretty nice compared to what they really are.

Hey, Marvel films kick ass.

But yesh, there are people who become ideologically possessed. Everything they say is straight from a text book, whether Rand, Mises, Marx, or Sarte, they have an uncritical worldview and an answer for everything.

r3volution 3.0
10-12-2018, 11:52 PM
If you tell people that they have a right to an opinion on everything (indeed, a responsibility to have an opinion on everything), you can be sure that they'll adopt one. Even if they know nothing about the subject and have to grab an opinion at random off the shelf, no matter; they'll only defend that opinion all the more violently, in an attempt to prevent anyone from discovering their shame. This is the cause of the militant stupidity that dominates politics (and not only among the SJWs, I might add). If theoretical physics were organized in the same way, you'd see illiterates venomously hurling slogans about Quantum Mechanics at one another. It's not really the people, it's that they're being asked (practically ordered) to participate in things beyond their understanding. If you asked them, and they could reply honestly, I think you'd find that the vast majority would happily return to being spectators in these matters, and go about their lives focusing on the things that they actually care about.

Swordsmyth
10-12-2018, 11:58 PM
If you tell people that they have a right to an opinion on everything (indeed, a responsibility to have an opinion on everything), you can be sure that they'll adopt one. Even if they know nothing about the subject and have to grab an opinion at random off the shelf, no matter; they'll only defend that opinion all the more violently, in an attempt to prevent anyone from discovering their shame. This is the cause of the militant stupidity that dominates politics (and not only among the SJWs, I might add). If theoretical physics were organized in the same way, you'd see illiterates venomously hurling slogans about Quantum Mechanics at one another. It's not really the people, it's that they're being asked (practically ordered) to participate in things beyond their understanding. If you asked them, and they could reply honestly, I think you'd find that the vast majority would happily return to being spectators in these matters, and go about their lives focusing on the things that they actually care about.

Which is why there is nothing worse than a non-partisan get out the vote drive.

UWDude
10-13-2018, 12:03 AM
If you tell people that they have a right to an opinion on everything (indeed, a responsibility to have an opinion on everything), you can be sure that they'll adopt one. Even if they know nothing about the subject and have to grab an opinion at random off the shelf, no matter; they'll only defend that opinion all the more violently, in an attempt to prevent anyone from discovering their shame. This is the cause of the militant stupidity that dominates politics (and not only among the SJWs, I might add). If theoretical physics were organized in the same way, you'd see illiterates venomously hurling slogans about Quantum Mechanics at one another. It's not really the people, it's that they're being asked (practically ordered) to participate in things beyond their understanding. If you asked them, and they could reply honestly, I think you'd find that the vast majority would happily return to being spectators in these matters, and go about their lives focusing on the things that they actually care about.

That is some pretty amazing insight after 13,906 posts of useless garbage.

r3volution 3.0
10-13-2018, 12:03 AM
Which is why there is nothing worse than a non-partisan get out the vote drive.

Yes, a practical joke at the expense of the general public.

And then there's mandatory voting...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg/300px-Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg

kpitcher
10-13-2018, 05:44 AM
NPCs sound better than sheeple

From an Epistemological Solipsism viewpoint they may be on to something. Although I'd really hope if everything else was a figment of my mind that I'd have a more entertaining viewpoint.

https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/man-comes-haunting-realization-npc/

timosman
10-13-2018, 09:11 PM
https://twitter.com/resist12359914/status/1051304429545230336

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timosman
10-14-2018, 01:34 AM
https://twitter.com/npc0100482/status/1051311095749591045

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timosman
10-15-2018, 03:43 AM
https://vgy.me/NNiGL9.jpg

AZJoe
10-15-2018, 06:21 AM
https://www.redstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Untitled-1-18.jpg

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/411/346/b8e.jpg

Swordsmyth
10-15-2018, 07:05 PM
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/44052499_332668014133109_4224592233925443584_n.jpg

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https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1051176614757711872
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https://twitter.com/Coldsteel118/status/1050898630067068928
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Origanalist
10-15-2018, 08:38 PM
This meme is golden.

parocks
10-16-2018, 01:57 PM
If you tell people that they have a right to an opinion on everything (indeed, a responsibility to have an opinion on everything), you can be sure that they'll adopt one. Even if they know nothing about the subject and have to grab an opinion at random off the shelf, no matter; they'll only defend that opinion all the more violently, in an attempt to prevent anyone from discovering their shame. This is the cause of the militant stupidity that dominates politics (and not only among the SJWs, I might add). If theoretical physics were organized in the same way, you'd see illiterates venomously hurling slogans about Quantum Mechanics at one another. It's not really the people, it's that they're being asked (practically ordered) to participate in things beyond their understanding. If you asked them, and they could reply honestly, I think you'd find that the vast majority would happily return to being spectators in these matters, and go about their lives focusing on the things that they actually care about.

I can't remember exactly when this started, but I remember sometime around 5 years ago, 5-10, when msm really started pushing hard the idea that teenaged girls really really needed to have opinions, and that everyone really really needed to listen to their opinions. Now (((they))) knew full well that teenage girls did really not actually have opinions on so many things, but (((they))) knew that, if forced to have opinions, the teenage girls would get their opinions from (((them))).

The Gold Standard
10-16-2018, 01:59 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DppiU0xWsAE9Z02.jpg

r3volution 3.0
10-16-2018, 02:06 PM
I can't remember exactly when this started, but I remember sometime around 5 years ago, 5-10, when msm really started pushing hard the idea that teenaged girls really really needed to have opinions, and that everyone really really needed to listen to their opinions. Now (((they))) knew full well that teenage girls did really not actually have opinions on so many things, but (((they))) knew that, if forced to have opinions, the teenage girls would get their opinions from (((them))).

LOL, can you imagine if the whole political class and media consisted of teenage girls yelling at each other?

...o wait

:eek:

parocks
10-16-2018, 03:04 PM
LOL, can you imagine if the whole political class and media consisted of teenage girls yelling at each other?

...o wait

:eek:


He touched my booby in high school, so no S Ct for him.

AZJoe
10-16-2018, 08:06 PM
http://iroots.org/wp-content/uploads/1539571076929-e1539735074493.jpg

AZJoe
10-16-2018, 08:08 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DppdncCUYAU_wwv.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DphS4QvU0AEKzjx.jpg

AZJoe
10-16-2018, 08:08 PM
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AuH20
10-16-2018, 08:47 PM
The left is a virtual hivemind. The NPC label fits well. Sure, we have drones on the right, but not to the degree of the left, which is almost built on a cult-like conformity to madness.

dannno
10-16-2018, 09:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0aienuCBdg

Swordsmyth
10-16-2018, 09:54 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/1539496153986.png

The Gold Standard
10-17-2018, 09:25 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dpr2YBWW0AAoI7v.jpg

devil21
10-17-2018, 11:19 AM
Yay! More divide and conquer memes for the idiots that can't piece together original thoughts and analysis. We didn't have enough of that already.


Now for a word from our sponsors. This new meme is brought to you by your generous donations to deep state operatives who spend their waking hours trying to find new ways to keep the slaves angry at each other.

wizardwatson
10-17-2018, 11:29 AM
NPC...it's a figure of speech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5A5Mb__fiA

AZJoe
10-17-2018, 12:37 PM
They Live, an NPC documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=155&v=IH-19md1S3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=155&v=IH-19md1S3A

AZJoe
10-17-2018, 12:41 PM
Triggered NPC makes clear that if one is to dehumanize others, they must do so with labels such as "fascist", "enemy of your own species", "complete shitbag", and "caucasian as fuck"

1040610105505402881

AZJoe
10-17-2018, 12:44 PM
Twitter Execs get triggered and ban NPC meme from Twitter. From NYT-


Over the weekend, Twitter responded by suspending about 1,500 accounts associated with the NPC trolling campaign. The accounts violated Twitter’s rules against “intentionally misleading election-related content,” according to a person familiar with the company’s enforcement process. The person, who would speak only anonymously, was not authorized to discuss the decision. -NYT (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/16/us/politics/npc-twitter-ban.html)

As ZH (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-16/4chan-sparks-mass-triggering-npc-meme-twitter-responds-ban-hammer) points out, "There is precisely zero evidence that the accounts were spreading "intentionally misleading election-related content," so we're just going to have to take Twitter's word for it."

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Anti Federalist
10-17-2018, 01:04 PM
Triggered NPC makes clear that if one is to dehumanize others, they must do so with labels such as "fascist", "enemy of your own species", "complete shitbag", and "caucasian as fuck"

1040610105505402881

Says an NPC.

LOL

This meme delivers, now that I fully understand it.

That fact that it triggers the Idiocracy is an added bonus.

Swordsmyth
10-17-2018, 02:36 PM
Yay! More divide and conquer memes for the idiots that can't piece together original thoughts and analysis. We didn't have enough of that already.


Now for a word from our sponsors. This new meme is brought to you by your generous donations to deep state operatives who spend their waking hours trying to find new ways to keep the slaves angry at each other.
Just what I would expect an anarchist NPC to say.

devil21
10-17-2018, 05:51 PM
Just what I would expect an anarchist NPC to say.

Speaking of someone with no original thoughts...

It's hilarious to me that some of y'all harp on the "triggering" meme yet are just as easily triggered yourselves. I haven't wasted my time figuring out what "NPC" means exactly but if I'm not "playable" then that's a great compliment!

dannno
10-17-2018, 05:53 PM
I haven't wasted my time figuring out what "NPC" means exactly but if I'm not "playable" then that's a great compliment!

It means your thoughts are predictable and pre-programmed.

Swordsmyth
10-17-2018, 05:55 PM
Speaking of someone with no original thoughts...

It's hilarious to me that some of y'all harp on the "triggering" meme yet are just as easily triggered yourselves. I haven't wasted my time figuring out what "NPC" means exactly but if I'm not "playable" then that's a great compliment!

So you are admitting that you attacked a meme without even understanding what it means?

devil21
10-17-2018, 05:57 PM
It means your thoughts are predictable and pre-programmed.

ROFL! Wow, the irony is too much. Holy smokes! I don't even know where to start on that.


So you are admitting that you attacked a meme without even understanding what it means?

Yep! If it comes from a chan, it's for morons and should be treated as such.

Swordsmyth
10-17-2018, 05:59 PM
Yep! If it comes from a chan, it's for morons and should be treated as such.
More NPC babble.

devil21
10-17-2018, 06:38 PM
More NPC babble.

Are you a 19 year old living in your mom's basement whose life revolves around video games? If not, start acting like an adult, ok? I'm embarrassed for you that a video game meme is something you take seriously.

Swordsmyth
10-17-2018, 06:43 PM
Are you a 19 year old living in your mom's basement whose life revolves around video games? If not, start acting like an adult, ok? I'm embarrassed for you that a video game meme is something you take seriously.
You are the one who took it so seriously that you claimed it was part of an evil conspiracy without even understanding it, it's just good clean fun to me.

Swordsmyth
10-17-2018, 06:46 PM
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/MSNPCalexjones2.jpg

https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/betolivesmatter.jpg

https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/1539585446802m.jpg

AZJoe
10-17-2018, 07:10 PM
Yay! More divide and conquer memes for the idiots that can't piece together original thoughts and analysis. We didn't have enough of that already.
Now for a word from our sponsors. This new meme is brought to you by your generous donations to deep state operatives who spend their waking hours trying to find new ways to keep the slaves angry at each other.

Exactly. Come on folks. Don’t want someone [not naming devil21] to get triggered here. You absolutely should not use creative memes that quickly and simply expose mindless mass thought conformity.

Instead, "spend your waking hours" with such "original thoughts and analysis" as calling anyone exposing the mindless mass thought conformity "idiots that can't piece together original thoughts and analysis". That's the way to unify people, and wake people up to media programmed statists reciting mindless mantras of thought conformity.

Danke
10-17-2018, 07:14 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/1539496153986.png


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Swordsmyth again.

devil21
10-17-2018, 07:39 PM
Exactly. Come on folks. Don’t want someone [not naming devil21] to get triggered here. You absolutely should not use creative memes that quickly and simply expose mindless mass thought conformity.

Instead, "spend your waking hours" with such "original thoughts and analysis" as calling anyone exposing the mindless mass thought conformity "idiots that can't piece together original thoughts and analysis". That's the way to unify people, and wake people up to media programmed statists reciting mindless mantras of thought conformity.

Sorry but if you're taking cues from chans, you're doing everything except thinking for yourself. Reciting nonsense like this is the very definition of being neuro-linguistic programmed by outside forces.


You are the one who took it so seriously that you claimed it was part of an evil conspiracy without even understanding it, it's just good clean fun to me.

The fact that it's you, dannno, and Osama pushing this tells me all I need to know about where it originated from and the purpose of it. More divide and conquer nonsense from the posters that spend ALL of their posting time regurgitating Fox News talking points, yet claiming it's the other guys that are programmed script reciters. Oy vey.

Swordsmyth
10-17-2018, 07:46 PM
Sorry but if you're taking cues from chans, you're doing everything except thinking for yourself. Reciting nonsense like this is the very definition of being neuro-linguistic programmed by outside forces.



The fact that it's you, dannno, and Osama pushing this tells me all I need to know about where it originated from and the purpose of it. More divide and conquer nonsense from the posters that spend ALL of their posting time regurgitating Fox News talking points, yet claiming it's the other guys that are programmed script reciters. Oy vey.
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/1539585446802m.jpg

https://www.redstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Untitled-1-18.jpg

devil21
10-17-2018, 07:50 PM
LOL, keep posting other people's pictures so we can see how "not programmed" you are.

Swordsmyth
10-17-2018, 08:03 PM
LOL, keep posting other people's pictures so we can see how "not programmed" you are.

LOL

You are desperate.

devil21
10-18-2018, 01:40 AM
LOL

You are desperate.

I'm not the one that posts propaganda on the internet for a living. Try finding something productive and positive to do with your life instead of being a paid spreader of disinfo and division for rich people that don't care about you.

thoughtomator
10-18-2018, 02:01 AM
context appropriate NPC meme is context appropriate

https://files.gab.com/file/files-gab/image/bb-5bc150ec1709b.jpeg

thoughtomator
10-18-2018, 02:16 AM
ROFL! Wow, the irony is too much. Holy smokes! I don't even know where to start on that.

Yep! If it comes from a chan, it's for morons and should be treated as such.

The NPC meme is a Turing test, and needless to say you've failed it in the most hilarious manner.

devil21
10-18-2018, 02:21 AM
The NPC meme is a Turing test, and needless to say you've failed it in the most hilarious manner.

You got me. Immature nonsense does indeed trigger me. I'm tired of the constant devolution to the lowest denominator that makes up "politics" these days. I feel like I'm surrounded by children.

thoughtomator
10-18-2018, 02:24 AM
You got me. Immature nonsense does indeed trigger me. I'm tired of the constant devolution to the lowest denominator that makes up "politics" these days. I feel like I'm surrounded by children.

What you are is an output stream indistinguishable from one which could be generated by a computer.

devil21
10-18-2018, 02:30 AM
What you are is an output stream indistinguishable from one which could be generated by a computer.

Seriously, grow up shill.

VIDEODROME
10-18-2018, 03:07 AM
Aren't most online multiplayer games populated by trash talking assholes? What does that say about the poor NPCs versus the actual player characters?

Maybe the NPCs are cursed to mediocrity even if playing supportive background roles, while the Player Characters are there to cause chaos and destroy things.

https://media.giphy.com/media/AdKWgKn3D7Fbq/giphy.gif

thoughtomator
10-18-2018, 03:15 AM
Aren't most online multiplayer games populated by trash talking $#@!s?

You mean, like RPF?

Swordsmyth
10-18-2018, 12:59 PM
I'm not the one that posts propaganda on the internet for a living. Try finding something productive and positive to do with your life instead of being a paid spreader of disinfo and division for rich people that don't care about you.
I'm not paid and you are trying to distract from the fact that you are making a fool of yourself in this thread.

devil21
10-18-2018, 01:02 PM
I'm not paid and you are trying to distract from the fact that you are making a fool of yourself in this thread.

3pm ET shift starting, eh?

Swordsmyth
10-18-2018, 01:04 PM
3pm ET shift starting, eh?
LOL

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

tommyrp12
10-18-2018, 02:52 PM
1052723637462204418

Swordsmyth
10-18-2018, 03:13 PM
1052723637462204418

LOL

Anti Federalist
10-18-2018, 05:58 PM
1052723637462204418

He's got a picture of Stalin...in his mother's basement...wearing a pussy hat.

Is this real?

Anti Federalist
10-18-2018, 06:04 PM
I traveled through airports today.

I saw this face on moiling mob doing the compliance shuffle.

"It is keeping us safe".

Danke
10-18-2018, 06:07 PM
I traveled through airports today.

I saw this face on moiling mob doing the compliance shuffle.

"It is keeping us safe".


Are you a "Trusted Traveler?"

Jamesiv1
10-18-2018, 06:22 PM
1052723637462204418
Could be the adroit work of 4Chan

Remember what they did to Shia Lebeouf?

lol

Anti Federalist
10-18-2018, 06:27 PM
Are you a "Trusted Traveler?"

No...even though I should be since I have TWIC and they share the same databases.

I won't pay the bribe, as a matter of principle.

Danke
10-18-2018, 06:30 PM
No...even though I should be since I have TWIC and they share the same databases.

I won't pay the bribe, as a matter of principle.


Good , saves me from making any calls tonight.

r3volution 3.0
10-18-2018, 06:48 PM
IF{Confused=TRUE},
RunProgram{IndividualResponse.44dChess}

IF{Confused=TRUE},
RunProgram{IndividualResponse.Racist}

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Danke
10-18-2018, 06:49 PM
No...even though I should be since I have TWIC and they share the same databases.

I won't pay the bribe, as a matter of principle.

Global Entry is paid for by my company.

tommyrp12
10-18-2018, 07:39 PM
He's got a picture of Stalin...in his mother's basement...wearing a pussy hat.

Is this real?

It's a satire account.

Swordsmyth
10-18-2018, 07:49 PM
It's a satire account.

That was what I figured but it is hard to tell these days.

specsaregood
10-18-2018, 08:05 PM
Are you a "Trusted Traveler?"

In your expert opinion, which American airport has the smelliest travelers?

Danke
10-18-2018, 08:11 PM
In your expert opinion, which American airport has the smelliest travelers?


Laguardia.


But when I flew from London to Delhi and back, we would lock out the restroom closest to the cockpit for crew use only.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozKLHFxAvAo

Anti Federalist
10-18-2018, 08:24 PM
It's a satire account.

LOL...OK...I'm relieved I suppose, but yah, hard to tell these days.

timosman
10-18-2018, 08:28 PM
LOL...OK...I'm relieved I suppose, but yah, hard to tell these days.

Have faith, brother. :D

Anti Federalist
10-18-2018, 08:32 PM
Laguardia.


But when I flew from London to Delhi and back, we would lock out the restroom closest to the cockpit for crew use only.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozKLHFxAvAo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_33YgkoLaE

thoughtomator
10-18-2018, 09:05 PM
One great thing about this meme is how easily it flows into other memes, so this is compound high-grade snowflake detonation material.

https://files.gab.com/file/files-gab/image/bb-5bc1a4a88f691.jpeg

thoughtomator
10-18-2018, 09:09 PM
https://i.imgur.com/DnjEY6h.jpg

Swordsmyth
10-18-2018, 09:22 PM
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/npcinfo.jpg

https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/NPC-Antifa.jpg

Anti Federalist
10-19-2018, 05:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEpUUU0e-Q0

Swordsmyth
10-20-2018, 07:40 PM
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/NPCMemeEntry_4.jpg

Danke
10-20-2018, 07:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEpUUU0e-Q0


Don’t know how to post a twitter:

https://twitter.com/statuses/1053119079584858112

Valli6
10-21-2018, 10:08 AM
Don’t know how to post a twitter:
https://twitter.com/statuses/1053119079584858112
Instead of posting the whole url, just post the number that appears within it. Highlight this number then click on the twitter icon in the formatting options.
https://twitter.com/statuses/1053119079584858112

(Supposedly, some devices can't view a tweet posted this way, so it's polite to also post the url to the tweet.)

timosman
10-21-2018, 10:09 AM
Instead of posting the whole url, just post the number that appears within it. Highlight this number then click on the twitter icon in the formatting options.
https://twitter.com/statuses/1053119079584858112

too hard for a computer to parse this. we need humans to do the manual labor. :cool:

nikcers
10-21-2018, 10:11 AM
Don’t know how to post a twitter:

https://twitter.com/statuses/1053119079584858112

OH GOD someone do one with Tucker Carlson please. He fell off the wagon with his recent comments about freedom.

ThePaleoLibertarian
10-21-2018, 02:39 PM
LOL, keep posting other people's pictures so we can see how "not programmed" you are.
Do you know what memes are?

devil21
10-21-2018, 09:09 PM
Do you know what memes are?

There's many different "types" and they each have their purpose. This one seems to be the latest attempt to ridicule others and the thread title covers it pretty well. It's a really dumb one, though, because it shows how scripted and programmed both the meme'r and the meme'e are. Fortunately it doesn't appear to be catching on and the attempts to use it on the net where I visit are quite forced.

ThePaleoLibertarian
10-22-2018, 05:59 AM
There's many different "types" and they each have their purpose. This one seems to be the latest attempt to ridicule others and the thread title covers it pretty well. It's a really dumb one, though, because it shows how scripted and programmed both the meme'r and the meme'e are. Fortunately it doesn't appear to be catching on and the attempts to use it on the net where I visit are quite forced.
So, evidently not. The NPC meme is probably the biggest meme to come out of 4chan this year and is so popular trolls are going to left wing rallies with NPC maks and signs. Your take is hilariously wrong and idiotic. Seems like you're some boomer trying to understand the internet, but you're unable to, so you just synthesize it with whatever mid-20th Century conspiracy of which the architecture of your mind consists.

devil21
10-22-2018, 08:02 AM
So, evidently not. The NPC meme is probably the biggest meme to come out of 4chan this year and is so popular trolls are going to left wing rallies with NPC maks and signs. Your take is hilariously wrong and idiotic. Seems like you're some boomer trying to understand the internet, but you're unable to, so you just synthesize it with whatever mid-20th Century conspiracy of which the architecture of your mind consists.

Well, I did say originally that it's nonsense for kids that live in mom's basement whose lives revolve around video games. Neither apply to me so you got me there. Enjoy your meme and stay off my lawn.

ThePaleoLibertarian
10-22-2018, 08:19 AM
Well, I did say originally that it's nonsense for kids that live in mom's basement whose lives revolve around video games. Neither apply to me so you got me there. Enjoy your meme and stay off my lawn.
Memes are modern comedy. One of the biggest mistakes the left made was abdicating memetics to the right because they were afraid comedy memes on the internet were "racist". Most libertarian memes are boomer-tier, so it would be nice if the liberty movement could actually make some progress on this kind of thing.

devil21
10-22-2018, 08:23 AM
Memes are modern comedy. One of the biggest mistakes the left made was abdicating memetics to the right because they were afraid comedy memes on the internet were "racist". Most libertarian memes are boomer-tier, so it would be nice if the liberty movement could actually make some progress on this kind of thing.

I'm quite happy that real libertarians aren't participating in anything that "dehumanizes" others. People seeking to do that are people we probably shouldn't be throwing our lot in with.

ThePaleoLibertarian
10-22-2018, 08:33 AM
I'm quite happy that real libertarians aren't participating in anything that "dehumanizes" others. People seeking to do that are people we probably shouldn't be throwing our lot in with.
The idea that the NPC meme dehumanizes people is a hysterical screed by the left who want to neuter and effective piece of propaganda. They're not worried they're being dehumanized, they're worried that the right has a memetic tool which actually reveals something true about their activists' psychology.

dannno
10-22-2018, 08:53 AM
https://i0.wp.com/71republic.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Screenshot_20181016-073858_2-1.png?resize=925%2C715&ssl=1

devil21
10-22-2018, 09:26 AM
The idea that the NPC meme dehumanizes people is a hysterical screed by the left who want to neuter and effective piece of propaganda. They're not worried they're being dehumanized, they're worried that the right has a memetic tool which actually reveals something true about their activists' psychology.

And this is why I think it's dumb. As if the tards on the right are any less scripted than the tards on the left. Both are fed their scripts by controlled opposition on each side.

ThePaleoLibertarian
10-22-2018, 09:50 AM
And this is why I think it's dumb. As if the tards on the right are any less scripted than the tards on the left. Both are fed their scripts by controlled opposition on each side.There's certainly a lot of scripting on the right, both the more mainstream GOP and the supposedly free-thinking alt-right. But there is far less scripting than on the right than on the left for one simple reason; the left owns all the cultural institutions. They own every entertainment company, every tech company in SF, the academy, every politically vocal actor and pop star. They own it all. To be on the right, even if it is a wishy-washy Conservatism Inc. kind of right, is to oppose the narratives fed to you by every major cultural institution the US has.

devil21
10-22-2018, 09:59 AM
There's certainly a lot of scripting on the right, both the more mainstream GOP and the supposedly free-thinking alt-right. But there is far less scripting than on the right than on the left for one simple reason; the left owns all the cultural institutions. They own every entertainment company, every tech company in SF, the academy, every politically vocal actor and pop star. They own it all. To be on the right, even if it is a wishy-washy Conservatism Inc. kind of right, is to oppose the narratives fed to you by every major cultural institution the US has.

I'd argue that what you're referring to about institutional cultural indoctrination isn't fed by the "left" but rather is fed by NWO proponents that seek to establish a chinese style surveillance culture behind a european facade. The "left" is just the chosen vehicle for that transformation, not the origin of it, since young people believe the "left" is fashionable and they are easily led around by trends, as we all were at that age. The institutions, media/pop, tech, etc are not "left". They are NWO.

ThePaleoLibertarian
10-22-2018, 10:10 AM
I'd argue that what you're referring to about institutional cultural indoctrination isn't fed by the "left" but rather is fed by NWO proponents that seek to establish a chinese style surveillance culture behind a european facade. The "left" is just the chosen vehicle for that transformation, not the origin of it, since young people believe the "left" is fashionable and they are easily led around by trends, as we all were at that age. The institutions, media/pop, tech, etc are not "left". They are NWO.
These institutions are absolutely left. Anyone who disagrees hasn't had much interaction with them. To say the academy is anything other than left shows severe ignorance, and most of them oppose the surveillance state since they say it would be used mostly against "POC".

Academia creates the narratives which are fed into the media, which then rapidly become social norms. The alliance of the academy and media is what reactionaries like me call The Cathedral.

Here's a diagram:
https://i0.wp.com/www.xenosystems.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Cathedral1.png

dannno
10-22-2018, 10:13 AM
There's certainly a lot of scripting on the right, both the more mainstream GOP and the supposedly free-thinking alt-right. But there is far less scripting than on the right than on the left for one simple reason; the left owns all the cultural institutions. They own every entertainment company, every tech company in SF, the academy, every politically vocal actor and pop star. They own it all. To be on the right, even if it is a wishy-washy Conservatism Inc. kind of right, is to oppose the narratives fed to you by every major cultural institution the US has.

You forgot schools and Universities.

ThePaleoLibertarian
10-22-2018, 10:15 AM
You forgot schools and Universities.
That's included in "the academy".

dannno
10-22-2018, 10:21 AM
That's included in "the academy".

Ohh

https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/oscars-academy-awards-icarus-documentary-winner.jpg

shakey1
10-22-2018, 12:23 PM
https://media.breitbart.com/media/2018/10/NPC-7-msnbc-msnpc.jpg

jct74
10-22-2018, 03:15 PM
https://i.redd.it/fe1np8nw2rt11.jpg

devil21
10-22-2018, 04:29 PM
These institutions are absolutely left. Anyone who disagrees hasn't had much interaction with them. To say the academy is anything other than left shows severe ignorance, and most of them oppose the surveillance state since they say it would be used mostly against "POC".

Academia creates the narratives which are fed into the media, which then rapidly become social norms. The alliance of the academy and media is what reactionaries like me call The Cathedral.

Here's a diagram:
https://i0.wp.com/www.xenosystems.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Cathedral1.png

The foot soldiers are left. Those pulling their strings are not political, at least in the left v. right sense that the average person identifies with. The left is a vehicle, a means to an end, it is not the end itself.

RJ Liberty
10-22-2018, 05:15 PM
the left owns all the cultural institutions. They own every entertainment company, every tech company in SF, the academy, every politically vocal actor and pop star. They own it all.

This is simply not true. Fox News, Sinclair Broadcasting (owner of 193 local TV stations), The Wall Street Journal, The Blaze, the Las Vegas Review-Journal, the New York Observer, the (Jacksonville) Florida Times-Union, Clear Channel Inc (owner of 855 local radio stations), etc, all are conservative media outlets.

And as far as celebrities go, Roseanne Barr, Tim Allen, Jessica Simpson, Hank Williams Jr, Gary Sinise, LeAnn Rimes, Elizabeth Hasselbeck, Dale Earnhardt Jr, Larry the Cable Guy, Ahhhnold, Ted Nugent, Fred Thompson, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Nolan Ryan, Loretta Lynn, Dennis Miller, Jeff Foxworthy, Mel Gibson, Tim Tebow, Stacey Dash, Patricia Heaton, Pat Sajak, Kelsey Grammer, and many, many other celebs are noted conservatives.

dannno
10-22-2018, 05:21 PM
This is simply not true. Fox News, Sinclair Broadcasting (owner of 193 local TV stations), The Wall Street Journal, The Blaze, the Las Vegas Review-Journal, the New York Observer, the (Jacksonville) Florida Times-Union, Clear Channel Inc (owner of 855 local radio stations), etc, all are conservative media outlets.

And as far as celebrities go, Roseanne Barr, Tim Allen, Jessica Simpson, Hank Williams Jr, Gary Sinise, LeAnn Rimes, Elizabeth Hasselbeck, Dale Earnhardt Jr, Larry the Cable Guy, Ahhhnold, Ted Nugent, Fred Thompson, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Nolan Ryan, Loretta Lynn, Dennis Miller, Jeff Foxworthy, Mel Gibson, Tim Tebow, Stacey Dash, Patricia Heaton, Pat Sajak, Kelsey Grammer, and many, many other celebs are noted conservatives.


Um, ok, you are wrong for several reasons.

Independent media like The Blaze doesn't count, even though The Blaze I would consider controlled opposition. Fox News is also somewhat controlled opposition. The Wall Street Journal is controlled opposition as well.

As far as Hollywood, you have gotta be smoking crack.. the people in your list literally complain all god damn day about how almost everybody in Hollywood is liberal and how difficult it is for them to work in Hollywood as a conservative.

If you are trying to make the argument that 5% or 10% of the cultural institutions are conservative, that's fine, but it is nowhere near 50/50.

devil21
10-22-2018, 05:28 PM
This is simply not true. Fox News, Sinclair Broadcasting (owner of 193 local TV stations), The Wall Street Journal, The Blaze, the Las Vegas Review-Journal, the New York Observer, the (Jacksonville) Florida Times-Union, Clear Channel Inc (owner of 855 local radio stations), etc, all are conservative media outlets.

Controlled opposition. What do they all have in common? They love Israel. Just like the left outlets do.



And as far as celebrities go, Roseanne Barr, Tim Allen, Jessica Simpson, Hank Williams Jr, Gary Sinise, LeAnn Rimes, Elizabeth Hasselbeck, Dale Earnhardt Jr, Larry the Cable Guy, Ahhhnold, Ted Nugent, Fred Thompson, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Nolan Ryan, Loretta Lynn, Dennis Miller, Jeff Foxworthy, Mel Gibson, Tim Tebow, Stacey Dash, Patricia Heaton, Pat Sajak, Kelsey Grammer, and many, many other celebs are noted conservatives.

Fwiw, Roseanne is an admitted socialist. Don't confuse the tv character with the real person. That's something you have to do with every "character" in media, discern what is public character and what is private person.

thoughtomator
10-22-2018, 05:32 PM
Holy shit, the script is still running and STILL lacks any sense of self awareness. Alan Turing, eat your heart out!

RJ Liberty
10-22-2018, 05:35 PM
Um, ok, you are wrong for several reasons.

No, I'm not. TPC stated that "all" of the media and "every politically vocal actor and pop star" were on the Left. That's simply not accurate.




If you are trying to make the argument that 5% or 10% of the cultural institutions are conservative, that's fine, but it is nowhere near 50/50.

Dannno, please don't make up numbers. I didn't say anything about 50/50, so your post telling me I'm wrong, because it's "nowhere near 50/50" is dumb. I didn't say anything about 50/50; only you did. You're attacking something I didn't say.

I said the untruth that the Left owns the media, the celebs, and all the institutions is untrue. And it is.

UWDude
10-22-2018, 05:38 PM
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/1539585446802m.jpg

this one is epic.
Right wing propaganda.
but epic.

UWDude
10-22-2018, 05:40 PM
Fwiw, Roseanne is an admitted socialist.

FWIW, there is something wrong with every single one of the 6,894,793,251 people on the planet today, with the exception of devil21. That is why we should listen to him about everything.

RJ Liberty
10-22-2018, 05:58 PM
Controlled opposition. What do they all have in common? They love Israel. Just like the left outlets do.

You ain't wrong about controlled opposition. The gov has been playing a game of Demosthenes/Locke for at least three decades.



Fwiw, Roseanne is an admitted socialist. Don't confuse the tv character with the real person. That's something you have to do with every "character" in media, discern what is public character and what is private person.

Roseanne used to be a socialist, but her current Twitter feed has nothing to do with socialism. She says she's walked away from the Left:

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Swordsmyth
10-22-2018, 05:58 PM
FWIW, there is something wrong with every single one of the 6,894,793,251 people on the planet today, with the exception of devil21. That is why we should listen to him about everything.
Yes, I always find satanists to be reliable life guides.:sarcasm:

ThePaleoLibertarian
10-22-2018, 06:50 PM
This is simply not true. Fox News, Sinclair Broadcasting (owner of 193 local TV stations), The Wall Street Journal, The Blaze, the Las Vegas Review-Journal, the New York Observer, the (Jacksonville) Florida Times-Union, Clear Channel Inc (owner of 855 local radio stations), etc, all are conservative media outlets.
I said "entertainment company" Those are mostly all news corps or newspapers. I'm talking about the people who make the movies and the TV dramas and sitcoms. Very little of it is made by or for conservatives. Last Man Standing, a conservative-leaning half-hour sitcom was canceled by ABC, despite being very popular. It has since been revived by Fox.


And as far as celebrities go, Roseanne Barr, Tim Allen, Jessica Simpson, Hank Williams Jr, Gary Sinise, LeAnn Rimes, Elizabeth Hasselbeck, Dale Earnhardt Jr, Larry the Cable Guy, Ahhhnold, Ted Nugent, Fred Thompson, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Nolan Ryan, Loretta Lynn, Dennis Miller, Jeff Foxworthy, Mel Gibson, Tim Tebow, Stacey Dash, Patricia Heaton, Pat Sajak, Kelsey Grammer, and many, many other celebs are noted conservatives.
Perhaps I should have said "vocal movie stars" instead. Obviously, some entertainers are going to be right-leaning, but I'm talking about relevant culturally. None of those people are movie stars or pop stars. There is at least one A-list actor out there, who is a household name who is very conservative. What's his name? I don't know and neither do you. Because he's not open about it. If he was, it would be career suicide.

Krugminator2
10-22-2018, 07:03 PM
This is simply not true. Fox News, Sinclair Broadcasting (owner of 193 local TV stations), The Wall Street Journal, The Blaze, the Las Vegas Review-Journal, the New York Observer, the (Jacksonville) Florida Times-Union, Clear Channel Inc (owner of 855 local radio stations), etc, all are conservative media outlets.

And as far as celebrities go, Roseanne Barr, Tim Allen, Jessica Simpson, Hank Williams Jr, Gary Sinise, LeAnn Rimes, Elizabeth Hasselbeck, Dale Earnhardt Jr, Larry the Cable Guy, Ahhhnold, Ted Nugent, Fred Thompson, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Nolan Ryan, Loretta Lynn, Dennis Miller, Jeff Foxworthy, Mel Gibson, Tim Tebow, Stacey Dash, Patricia Heaton, Pat Sajak, Kelsey Grammer, and many, many other celebs are noted conservatives.

So here's the thing. What you posted is either dishonest or really not bright. I don't even know what the New York Observer is. The Blaze is going bankrupt. Yeah you have a few major news outlets. WSJ and Fox and some local stations. That isn't exactly ABC NBC CBS New York Times, Washington Post, CNN MSNBC. In fact there is no point in trying to name them all.

Here is how the media votes (or at least did in the past) https://archive.mrc.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3.asp

89 percent of Washington-based reporters said they voted for Bill Clinton in 1992. Only seven percent voted for George Bush, with two percent choosing Ross Perot



There are humanities departments at universities with ZERO conservatives on the faculty. Most university department outside of business and hard sciences have more openly identified Marxists (actual Marxists) than people on the political right.

And the celebrity list is really the most ridiculous. It is cool that Nolan Ryan is a Republican. He was famous when I was six. But I mean I would bet A list movie stars are 9 to 1 Democrat to Republican (or more). Even on your list... Fred Thompson is dead. Jessica Simpson???? She was famous ten years ago? Roseanne is a Green Party socialist who supports Trump. Arnold Swartzenegger hasn't even been a moderate Republican since his first term as Governor. Okay Tim Allen and Mel Gibson and Vince Vaughn are Republicans. Great.

You want to know which celebrities are Democrats? Every other one not your. I get it. You can find some aging hee haw hick country singer or the Duck Dynasty guy or the Pawn Stars guy or a minor Saturday Night Live cast member from the 80s will be on a list of Republicans. Not exactly Taylor Swift or Robert De Niro.

RJ Liberty
10-22-2018, 07:19 PM
I said "entertainment company" Those are mostly all news corps or newspapers.

No, 2,000 TV and radio stations are not news corporations or newspapers. They are part of the entertainment industry: they are the stations that decide what gets aired in people's homes and in their vehicles.



I'm talking about the people who make the movies and the TV dramas and sitcoms. Very little of it is made by or for conservatives. Last Man Standing, a conservative-leaning half-hour sitcom was canceled by ABC, despite being very popular. It has since been revived by Fox.

I am a big Tim Allen fan, from back in his Home Improvement days, but despite what he says, LMS's cancellation had nothing to do with his conservative leanings: the show went from over 13 million viewers in the first episode, to 6 million in the last ABC episode. It had already had a good six-year run. The idea that Tim Allen was silenced because of his politics is silly, because they gave him a voice for six years.



Perhaps I should have said "vocal movie stars" instead. Obviously, some entertainers are going to be right-leaning, but I'm talking about relevant culturally. None of those people are movie stars or pop stars. There is at least one A-list actor out there, who is a household name who is very conservative. What's his name? I don't know and neither do you. Because he's not open about it. If he was, it would be career suicide.

There are plenty of A-listers on this list (https://www.ranker.com/list/actors-republican-actor-and-conservative-actors-list/famous-conservatives). It's clear just from that list that it's not political suicide to be conservative in Hollywood unless you start calling black people ******* or apes.

devil21
10-22-2018, 07:48 PM
FWIW, there is something wrong with every single one of the 6,894,793,251 people on the planet today, with the exception of devil21. That is why we should listen to him about everything.

Are you ok? Do you need to sit down or something?

You do realize the real person Roseanne Arnold/Barr has a long history of supporting socialist policies and being a Green Party and PRP (though the PRP shares some commonality with libertarians) party member, yes? She even ran for their Presidential nomination in 2012! Not sure what that has to do with me or why you're attacking me personally.


Yes, I always find satanists to be reliable life guides.:sarcasm:

Wow. You're gettin' kinda desperate with the labels these days.

devil21
10-22-2018, 07:54 PM
You ain't wrong about controlled opposition. The gov has been playing a game of Demosthenes/Locke for at least three decades.



Roseanne used to be a socialist, but her current Twitter feed has nothing to do with socialism. She says she's walked away from the Left:

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I looked at her Twitter but don't see any mention of what she's walking toward. I do see a lot of ads for her paid special with some rabbi, however.

Swordsmyth
10-22-2018, 07:54 PM
Wow. You're gettin' kinda desperate with the labels these days.
Am I?:


Well, some think the God of the bible is the bad one. Makes ya wonder sometimes whether it's not true.


You exposed yourself when you thought you had a chance to lure someone off the straight and narrow.

ThePaleoLibertarian
10-22-2018, 07:58 PM
No, 2,000 TV and radio stations are not news corporations or newspapers. They are part of the entertainment industry: they are the stations that decide what gets aired in people's homes and in their vehicles.
They don't produce the programs. That's where the cultural power really is. And in reality, they have very little control over what they get to show, especially on TV. If I'm some conservative owner of an ABC affiliate, I don't get to say a damn thing when the network puts on a show about trans lesbians raising an adopted son. The days of local channels having a real say in what gets shown are largely a thing of the past. Arizona has a couple of unaffiliated local networks, but I think they're the only ones/




I am a big Tim Allen fan, from back in his Home Improvement days, but despite what he says, LMS's cancellation had nothing to do with his conservative leanings: the show went from over 13 million viewers in the first episode, to 6 million in the last ABC episode. It had already had a good six-year run. The idea that Tim Allen was silenced because of his politics is silly, because they gave him a voice for six years.
The show was still quite good ratings-wise, compared to other ABC shows that are still on the air, though. And it wasn't just his conservative politics. Right before the cancellation, they did an episode where Tim's character decries PC America and college snowflakes. Then the show is axed.




There are plenty of A-listers on this list (https://www.ranker.com/list/actors-republican-actor-and-conservative-actors-list/famous-conservatives). It's clear just from that list that it's not political suicide to be conservative in Hollywood unless you start calling black people ******* or apes.
There are two still living A-listers on that list, from what I can tell. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Clint Eastwood, both of whom are Hollywood legends who came up in a different time when Hollywood was at least somewhat less political (especially Clint). Where is the young, up-and-coming actor who's a conservative? There must be at least one; they're not all progressives. As I said, he's out there, but he doesn't talk about his politics. It would ruin him.

devil21
10-22-2018, 08:01 PM
Am I:

You exposed yourself when you thought you had a chance to lure someone off the straight and narrow.

Being knowledgeable about various religious doctrines makes me a satanist? Along with my handle? LOL ok. But it's funny you say that since the libertarian torch, the torch of the Statue of Liberty, is the light of Lucifer. Oh noes! We're all satanists now!

RJ Liberty
10-22-2018, 08:06 PM
Are you ok? Do you need to sit down or something?

You do realize the real person Roseanne Arnold/Barr has a long history of supporting socialist policies and being a Green Party and PRP (though the PRP shares some commonality with libertarians) party member, yes? She even ran for their Presidential nomination in 2012! Not sure what that has to do with me or why you're attacking me personally.



Don't sweat it, Devil21. I learned on online forums years ago (and you probably have, too) that personal attacks are just what people do when they run out of arguments. It's just human nature.


The Walk Away campaign (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAg_kx3y8Og) aims to pull people out of the Democratic Party (a great goal, IMO). But Roseanne (the actress, not just the character) went much further: she didn't just walk away, she campaigned for Trump.

UWDude
10-22-2018, 08:07 PM
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Are you ok?

You do realize

you're attacking me personally.



Wow. You're gettin' kinda desperate with the labels these days.}

Swordsmyth
10-22-2018, 08:14 PM
Being knowledgeable about various religious doctrines makes me a satanist? Along with my handle? LOL ok.
The context of that quote was clear, you were trying to proselytize and lure someone to the darkside.


But it's funny you say that since the libertarian torch, the torch of the Statue of Liberty, is the light of Lucifer. Oh noes! We're all satanists now!
It never was "the libertarian torch", the statue was always part of the Luciferian progressive movement.

devil21
10-22-2018, 08:22 PM
Don't sweat it, Devil21. I learned on online forums years ago (and you probably have, too) that personal attacks are just what people do when they run out of arguments. It's just human nature.

I didn't even engage with UWDude so it's kinda bizarre.



The Walk Away campaign (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAg_kx3y8Og) aims to pull people out of the Democratic Party (a great goal, IMO). But Roseanne (the actress, not just the character) went much further: she didn't just walk away, she campaigned for Trump.

I've learned not to take celebrities at face value. Their brand is what they care about the most and marketing their brands takes priority over everything else. Roseanne herself stated she voted for Trump to shake up the status quo, not because she supported his policies. I don't hate her or anything, she even talked about Pizzagate. But her history is impossible to ignore and like most celebrities, maintaining relevance of their brand is paramount.

Just some food for thought:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/29/business/media/roseanne-ratings-trump.html

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The context of that quote was clear, you were trying to proselytize and lure someone to the darkside.

lol.....sooooo appropriate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAekiKe1IWM

RJ Liberty
10-22-2018, 08:46 PM
They don't produce the programs.

The local TV stations actually all produce the local content, which is what is aired the majority of the day. Broadcast TV stations in the US are forbidden from airing a network's broadcast 24/7.



That's where the cultural power really is. And in reality, they have very little control over what they get to show, especially on TV. If I'm some conservative owner of an ABC affiliate, I don't get to say a damn thing when the network puts on a show about trans lesbians raising an adopted son.

Actually, local stations have the power to veto what airs on their stations. This is why stations will pre-empt a show they don't like. You may remember 57 (of 200) ABC affiliates pre-empting NYPD Blue in the 1990s and early 2000s.

But that's the thing: even though station owners can choose to not air something, they usually will air it anyway... because it makes them money. The local stations, owned by Sinclair, are partnered with the Big Four television networks, and will mostly air whatever the broadcast networks want. It shows what bull541t this right/left "they control the media!" garbage actually is. Sinclair is conservative; ABC, NBC, and CBS are liberal. And they are partners.




Arizona has a couple of unaffiliated local networks, but I think they're the only ones

Nah, there's a ton of independent TV stations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_independent_television_stations_in_the_U.S .). (None in my area because I live in the sticks, but in bigger areas).





The show was still quite good ratings-wise, compared to other ABC shows that are still on the air, though. And it wasn't just his conservative politics. Right before the cancellation, they did an episode where Tim's character decries PC America and college snowflakes. Then the show is axed.

Shows get more expensive the longer they are on the air, as their stars make more and more money. If ABC wanted to silence Tim Allen, they could easily have done so in 2014, when the producers did an episode about Mike and his wife being attacked by liberals for having a conservative blog, exposing the truth about "tolerance" from so-called liberals. They could have done so again in spring 2016 during the debate episode, or during any of the other 100+ episodes where they discussed conservative topics.





There are two still living A-listers on that list, from what I can tell. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Clint Eastwood, both of whom are Hollywood legends who came up in a different time when Hollywood was at least somewhat less political (especially Clint). Where is the young, up-and-coming actor who's a conservative? There must be at least one; they're not all progressives. As I said, he's out there, but he doesn't talk about his politics. It would ruin him.

The only things that ruins celebrities' careers are public racist rants, like the Mel Gibson and Michael Richards incidents. Those take years to recover from. But simply being a conservative doesn't ruin a celeb's career in Hollywood, or we wouldn't have Clint Eastwood, Chuck Norris, Adam Sandler, Sly Stallone, Adam Baldwin, etc.

RJ Liberty
10-22-2018, 09:15 PM
I didn't even engage with UWDude so it's kinda bizarre.

It is odd, but IMO less odd than someone calling someone a "satanist" because their RPF username is "devil". Is Duke University full of devil worshippers? Is Arizona State University? Should I avoid deviled eggs due to their evil influence? :tears:




I've learned not to take celebrities at face value. Their brand is what they care about the most and marketing their brands takes priority over everything else. Roseanne herself stated she voted for Trump to shake up the status quo, not because she supported his policies. I don't hate her or anything, she even talked about Pizzagate. But her history is impossible to ignore and like most celebrities, maintaining relevance of their brand is paramount.

Just some food for thought:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/29/business/media/roseanne-ratings-trump.html

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That article posits the theory that Roseanne pulled to the right to get viewers. But on Twitter, Roseanne was actually criticizing leftists like Obama, Valerie Jarrett, etc, during the summer, when that couldn't possibly have boosted the show's ratings. After she was fired by ABC for the "ape" comment, she could have apologized for any of her alt-right tweets, but she's been pretty defiant: "I thought the bitch was white" is hardly a socialist, PC response.

Roseanne, in the 1990s, was a populist voice for the working man (and woman); one of the few celebrities who was speaking about income inequality at that time. It's no surprise to me that she is now critical of billionaires on the left; it did surprise me when she started actively campaigning for billionaires on the right.

timosman
10-23-2018, 11:05 AM
https://www.dsausa.org/about-us/structure/


DSA’s primary political leadership is the National Political Committee (NPC), a sixteen-person body which functions as the board of directors of DSA and is elected every two years by the delegates to DSA’s National Convention. Every DSA chapter is entitled to send a certain number of delegates to the National Convention, based upon the chapter’s size. There are also “at-large” delegates to represent areas where there are no active chapters.

The DSA Constitution:

requires that eight slots of the NPC be reserved for women, and that at least five of the NPC slots be reserved for people of color.
gives the NPC the power to charter DSA locals and commissions, as well as DSA’s Youth Section.
The NPC:

guides and leads the implementation of DSA’s major political and organizational goals, which are broadly defined every two years by the delegates to the National Convention
gives instructions to the national staff about how to carry forward DSA’s day-to-day work.
creates task forces and committees to guide particular areas of DSA’s political work.
conducts long weekend meetings four times each year.
elects five of its members to serve on the Steering Committee (SC). The SC can be emailed at sc(at)dsausa.org.
National Political Committee Members, 2017-2019

Contact the NPC at: npc(at)dsausa.org

Swordsmyth
10-23-2018, 07:57 PM
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/npc-sunglasses.jpg

timosman
10-27-2018, 04:55 PM
https://vgy.me/Cfil3g.jpg

dannno
02-08-2019, 12:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8Gqjs9UqGk

Swordsmyth
02-18-2019, 07:33 PM
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/johnoliver.jpg

Swordsmyth
02-18-2019, 07:35 PM
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/billmaherNPC.jpg

RJB
02-18-2019, 07:50 PM
That is pretty shallow. The rabbit hole goes much deeper than just that "orange man bad." Also, Red hat racist, too.


https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/johnoliver.jpg

jkr
02-18-2019, 07:59 PM
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/johnoliver.jpg

:heart:SO MUCH!

acptulsa
02-18-2019, 09:24 PM
That is pretty shallow. The rabbit hole goes much deeper than just that "orange man bad." Also, Red hat racist, too.

That's the sad part. When both sides set out to dehumanize the other side, they dehumanize themselves.

It never fails.

Danke
09-06-2019, 12:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEpUUU0e-Q0

bump