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Marenco
09-20-2018, 01:28 AM
Forget Putin, Trump is Acting in Every Way Like Netanyahu’s Manchurian Candidate

WASHINGTON — (Analysis) In the months leading up to the 25th anniversary of the Oslo Accords, the U.S. has colluded with Israel in a string of policies and decisions that completely undermine the legitimacy of the agreement, not to mention Palestinian claims to justice, freedom and ultimately peace. As these policies unfold, one cannot help recalling the words of the great Palestinian writer Ghassan Kanafani, who said that talking with the Israelis is “a conversation between the sword and the neck.”

There is a clear common thread that binds several of the U.S. policies enacted by President Donald Trump since last December. Moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem; pulling out of the Iran agreement; defunding UNRWA, and closing the PLO mission in D.C. all satisfy the objectives of the Israeli government while not benefiting the United States in the least. One might imagine that the United States is executing Israel’s policy, reading as it were from a menu that was provided by Benjamin Netanyahu. In fact, the Trump administration is every Israeli prime minister’s dream.

Jerusalem

Moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem was reckless, dangerous and absurd. The occupation and annexation of Jerusalem by Israel was in violation of UN resolution 181 from November 1947, which states in “Part III, City of Jerusalem” that:

The City of Jerusalem shall be established as a corpus separatum under a special international regime and shall be administered by the United Nations. The Trusteeship Council shall be designated to discharge the responsibilities of the Administering Authority on behalf of the United Nations.”

Resolution 194 from December 1948 — in other words, more than a year after Resolution 181 was passed and the eastern half of Jerusalem was occupied and subjected to a total full ethnic cleansing, where not one Palestinian was permitted to remain — reiterates this:

8 | Resolves that, in view of its association with three world religions, the Jerusalem area, including the present municipality of Jerusalem plus the surrounding villages and towns, the most eastern of which shall be Abu Dis; the most southern, Bethlehem; the most western, Ein Karim (including also the built-up area of Motsa); and the most northern, Shu’fat, should be accorded special and separate treatment from the rest of Palestine and should be placed under effective United Nations control …

For this reason all diplomatic missions to Israel are situated in Tel Aviv and not Jerusalem. The diplomatic missions in Jerusalem mostly pre-date the establishment of the State of Israel and are considered sovereign and independent of their countries’ embassies in Tel Aviv. Even the U.S. consulate until recently reported directly to Washington, and the consul general was in fact an ambassador. This was not unlike placing the U.S. embassy to France in Berlin and — according to sources I spoke to at the U.S. consulate in Jerusalem — now that the ambassador’s office was moved to Jerusalem, the place is in a state of confusion and it is not at all clear who is responsible for what.

In addition to all of the above, the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital city of Israel legitimizes the crime of ethnic cleansing and destruction which Israel has perpetrated in Jerusalem since 1948. This move did not benefit the U.S. in any way but it boosted Benjamin Netanyahu’s political power, and can be viewed as nothing less than a personal political gift from the president of the United States to Netanyahu.

Iran Deal

Israel, and Netanyahu, in particular, have been against the nuclear deal with Iran from the very beginning. Needing a diversion from its own war crimes and violations of international law, Israel has for many years pointed to Iran as a threat to itself and the rest of the world. This was a point of serious disagreement between the Obama administration and Israel and then Donald Trump put the disagreement to rest and the U.S. withdrew from the agreement.

According to a piece in Rand.com, Trump withdrew the U.S. from the agreement “despite a lack of evidence that Iran is violating the agreement. To the contrary, the International Atomic Energy Agency has verified Iran’s compliance numerous times.” The article continues by saying, “the implications of this decision could be disastrous for the Middle East under any conceivable scenario.”

A piece in the British Independent bluntly claims that:

''The president’s foreign policy has so far been marked by a significant ratcheting of tensions with Iran, driven by his administration’s noted friendliness towards Israel, which opposes the [Iran nuclear] deal.”

A piece in the British Independent bluntly claims that:

The president’s foreign policy has so far been marked by a significant ratcheting of tensions with Iran, driven by his administration’s noted friendliness towards Israel, which opposes the [Iran nuclear] deal.”

According to a report from August 2018 by the IAEA, the International Atomic Energy Agency:

“Since Implementation Day, the Agency has been verifying and monitoring the implementation by Iran of its nuclear-related commitments under the JCPOA.” The report states that among other things:

Since 16 January, 2016 [JCPOA Implementation Day], the Agency has verified and monitored Iran’s implementation of its nuclear-related commitments in accordance with the modalities set out in the JCPOA.”

The report states clearly that Iran was and continues to be compliant in all areas of the agreement. All the other countries that are signatories to the agreement remain committed to it, and they all insisted that a U.S. withdrawal was a mistake. Only one person insisted the U.S. must withdraw, and that is Benjamin Netanyahu, and he is the one person whose claims President Trump decided to accept. Once again, the United States had nothing to gain and everything to lose from the withdrawal and once again Netanyahu personally gained political strength as the sole voice to which the president of the United States listens.

UNRWA

The United States can see no benefit whatsoever in denying UNRWA funding; yet this is what the Trump administration decided to do. The very agency responsible for providing relief, albeit inadequate, to the refugees of Palestine was receiving $300 million per year, which is a drop in the bucket in terms of relief and of course in terms of the U.S. government’s total budget. In an open letter to Palestine refugees and UNRWA staff, dated September 1, 2018, Pierre Krähenbühl, UNRWA Commissioner-General, writes,

The need for humanitarian action … in the case of Palestine refugees, was caused by forced displacement, dispossession, loss of homes and livelihoods, as well as by statelessness and occupation. … [T]he undeniable fact remains that they have rights under international law and represent a community of 5.4 million men, women and children who cannot simply be wished away.”

“The attempt to make UNRWA somehow responsible for perpetuating the crisis is disingenuous at best,” the commissioner said, responding to claims made by Netanyahu that “UNRWA is an organization that perpetuates the problem of the Palestinian refugees.” Netanyahu also stated that UNRWA “perpetuates the narrative of the so-called ‘right of return,’” which the state of Israel fears — and therefore, according to Netanyahu, “UNRWA must disappear.”

According to The New York Times, this move was pushed hard by Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law, “as part of a plan to compel Palestinian politicians to drop demands for many of those refugees to return.” The right of the refugees to return is enshrined in UN Resolution 194, and one wonders why the U.S. should object to Palestinian demand for return of the refugees to their homes? Once again this is a gift to Netanyahu, who wants to see the refugee issue disappear.

PLO Mission

A product of the Oslo Accords, the PLO mission in Washington is the de-facto embassy of Palestine, the face and the voice of the Palestinian Authority in the U.S. Now, almost exactly on the 25th anniversary of the signing of the Accords, the Trump administration announces the closing of the mission. It could have come as no surprise when Netanyahu, who fiercely opposed the Accords, applauded the U.S. administration decision. This was yet one more insignificant step for the U.S., and one giant gift to Benjamin Netanyahu.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/forget-putin-trump-is-the-perfect-manchurian-candidate-for-netanyahu/249393/

timosman
09-20-2018, 03:07 AM
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Influenza
09-20-2018, 07:19 AM
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why do you retards constantly distract from the actual topic by posting fake news? Valerie Jarrett has no "Muslim Brotherhood" connection. Racist conspiracy mongers like you made that shit up just because she was born to 2 Americans living in Iran (which ironically has nothing at all to do with the Muslim Brotherhood.) There's no evidence for Huma abedin either, but at least she's muslim and speaks arabic, so it's plausible, unlike Jarrett.

But on topic: DJT has been firmly in the palm of Israel ever since he went off script momentarily in the 2016 Campaign when he said he would be "neutral" on the Israel vs palestine issue. Ever since then he has done and said every single thing Netanyahu would want him to do and say.

jkr
09-20-2018, 08:09 AM
WELL

YEAH...

Ender
09-20-2018, 10:13 AM
But on topic: DJT has been firmly in the palm of Israel ever since he went off script momentarily in the 2016 Campaign when he said he would be "neutral" on the Israel vs palestine issue. Ever since then he has done and said every single thing Netanyahu would want him to do and say.

I knew Trump was working with Israel when he gave his "statesman " speech in his campaign & said what a terrible thing the Iran deal was; when he cancelled it, it simply confirmed that Trump was a neocon in Israel's pocket.

And +rep to Marenco for the OP.

Brian4Liberty
09-20-2018, 10:30 AM
Shocked! Shocked to find that the Trump Adminstration Middle East policy is dictated by Netanyahu (and a certain Saudi Prince).

Trump delegated Middle East policy to Jared Kushner. Bibi Netanyahu used to stay at Jared’s house and sleep in his bed. The metaphor in this case is both symbolic and literal.

Is it appropriate to have policy in the US determined by someone so enamored with certain foreign interests? George Washington would say it is a very bad idea.

From George Washington’s Farewell Address:


Observe good faith and justice towards all nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all. Religion and morality enjoin this conduct; and can it be, that good policy does not equally enjoin it - It will be worthy of a free, enlightened, and at no distant period, a great nation, to give to mankind the magnanimous and too novel example of a people always guided by an exalted justice and benevolence. Who can doubt that, in the course of time and things, the fruits of such a plan would richly repay any temporary advantages which might be lost by a steady adherence to it ? Can it be that Providence has not connected the permanent felicity of a nation with its virtue ? The experiment, at least, is recommended by every sentiment which ennobles human nature. Alas! is it rendered impossible by its vices?

In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. Hence, frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests. The nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, has been the victim.

So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.

As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. Such an attachment of a small or weak towards a great and powerful nation dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.

shakey1
09-20-2018, 10:30 AM
I knew Trump was working with Israel when he gave his "statesman " speech in his campaign & said what a terrible thing the Iran deal was; when he cancelled it, it simply confirmed that Trump was a neocon in Israel's pocket.

And +rep to @Marenco (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=25948) for the OP.

Yeah, unfortunate, but predictable.

James_Madison_Lives
09-20-2018, 12:08 PM
Netanyahu wanted Hillary, because she would have overthrown Assad by now and maybe even attacked Iran. Trump is making a lot of pro-Zionist noise but his Manchurian programming is old and unreliable. It is unknown if he'll pull the trigger for WWIII so Israel can gloat and stand atop all our ashes. That's why they are forcing him out.

devil21
09-20-2018, 01:31 PM
Netanyahu wanted Hillary, because she would have overthrown Assad by now and maybe even attacked Iran. Trump is making a lot of pro-Zionist noise but his Manchurian programming is old and unreliable. It is unknown if he'll pull the trigger for WWIII so Israel can gloat and stand atop all our ashes. That's why they are forcing him out.

Do you really still think there's a dime's worth of difference between Hillary and Trump? The only difference is how the same policies are marketed to people. For example, Trump's tax cuts would have been implemented by Clinton also. Trump's were marketed as a "boon to middle income families". Hillary's would have been marketed as a "dividend to the working class". It's all the same.

timosman
09-20-2018, 01:52 PM
Do you really still think there's a dime's worth of difference between Hillary and Trump? The only difference is how the same policies are marketed to people. For example, Trump's tax cuts would have been implemented by Clinton also. Trump's were marketed as a "boon to middle income families". Hillary's would have been marketed as a "dividend to the working class". It's all the same.

Cool story. :cool:

James_Madison_Lives
09-20-2018, 02:13 PM
Do you really still think there's a dime's worth of difference between Hillary and Trump? The only difference is how the same policies are marketed to people. For example, Trump's tax cuts would have been implemented by Clinton also. Trump's were marketed as a "boon to middle income families". Hillary's would have been marketed as a "dividend to the working class". It's all the same.

Yes. Not much but some. Hillary would have put ground troops into Syria by now, and maybe bombed Iran. She had every department and media locked up, and the FEMA and NDAA military detention ready to go. We might have had a nuclear exchange with Russia and all dissidents including Paulers rounded up. It is what Israel wants and Hillary was ready to go. Her thirst for blood knows no end, her master satan requires it.

Trump has already done plenty of killing with drones, but I have seen him take glee in no man's death. Hillary revels in death. Looked at how she laughed, below, at Gaddafi. She is a genuine sociopath. We dodged a bullet. God help us had she won. Trump is a novice, perhaps a puppet, but still a novice. Hillary was a pro. There would have been no opposing her.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=FmIRYvJQeHM

devil21
09-20-2018, 02:55 PM
Yes. Not much but some. Hillary would have put ground troops into Syria by now, and maybe bombed Iran. She had every department and media locked up, and the FEMA and NDAA military detention ready to go. We might have had a nuclear exchange with Russia and all dissidents including Paulers rounded up. It is what Israel wants and Hillary was ready to go. Her thirst for blood knows no end, her master satan requires it.

Trump has already done plenty of killing with drones, but I have seen him take glee in no man's death. Hillary revels in death. Looked at how she laughed, below, at Gaddafi. She is a genuine sociopath. We dodged a bullet. God help us had she won. Trump is a novice, perhaps a puppet, but still a novice. Hillary was a pro. There would have been no opposing her.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=FmIRYvJQeHM

I disagree that anything would have been done any differently by now. Only different marketing of the same policies. Why? Because it's all scripted in accordance with biblical prophecy, since the Vatican runs this joint and wrote the modern bible in the first place. You have to understand the philosophy/mindset of the people we are talking about. If you don't understand that then you'll always be left guessing. I'd even go as far as to say that Trump was the selected president and Hillary was just playing her part in the script. What she "would have done" is irrelevant because she was never an actual option. Trump didn't win the popular vote yet still became President. Anyway, ymmv, believe what you wish.

As William Cooper said, "What you believe doesn't matter. If they believe it and they are in power, it will affect you."

timosman
09-20-2018, 03:04 PM
I disagree that anything would have been done any differently by now. Only different marketing of the same policies. Why? Because it's all scripted in accordance with biblical prophecy, since the Vatican runs this joint and wrote the modern bible in the first place. You have to understand the philosophy/mindset of the people we are talking about. If you don't understand that then you'll always be left guessing. I'd even go as far as to say that Trump was the selected president and Hillary was just playing her part in the script. What she "would have done" is irrelevant because she was never an actual option. Trump didn't win the popular vote yet still became President. Anyway, ymmv, believe what you wish.

As William Cooper said, "What you believe doesn't matter. If they believe it and they are in power, it will affect you."

Cool story. :cool:

James_Madison_Lives
09-20-2018, 03:07 PM
I disagree that anything would have been done any differently by now. Only different marketing of the same policies. Why? Because it's all scripted in accordance with biblical prophecy, since the Vatican runs this joint and wrote the modern bible in the first place. You have to understand the philosophy/mindset of the people we are talking about. If you don't understand that then you'll always be left guessing. I'd even go as far as to say that Trump was the selected president and Hillary was just playing her part in the script. What she "would have done" is irrelevant because she was never an actual option. Trump didn't win the popular vote yet still became President. Anyway, ymmv, believe what you wish.

As William Cooper said, "What you believe doesn't matter. If they believe it and they are in power, it will affect you."

Anyone can see the cards were stacked five different ways for Hillary. Trump was an accident.

devil21
09-20-2018, 03:10 PM
^^^^^
That's the second time today that Osama has posted that after I provided an informed reply on a topic. I must be over the target today.



Anyone can see the cards were stacked five different ways for Hillary. Trump was an accident.

You go right ahead and believe that. It's not like Comey, a Vatican operative, torpedoed Hillary's "campaign" right before the election. Or the high production value fake news viral videos about Hillary being arrested or being sick. Or similar things to provide a plausible explanation of why Trump won, despite his overall tepid (and completely manufactured) following and more than 50% of the population not voting and him not even winning the popular vote.

Swordsmyth
09-20-2018, 05:19 PM
Do you really still think there's a dime's worth of difference between Hillary and Trump? The only difference is how the same policies are marketed to people. For example, Trump's tax cuts would have been implemented by Clinton also. Trump's were marketed as a "boon to middle income families". Hillary's would have been marketed as a "dividend to the working class". It's all the same.

:rolleyes:

Swordsmyth
09-20-2018, 05:21 PM
^^^^^
That's the second time today that Osama has posted that after I provided an informed reply on a topic. I must be over the target today.




You go right ahead and believe that. It's not like Comey, a Vatican operative, torpedoed Hillary's "campaign" right before the election. Or the high production value fake news viral videos about Hillary being arrested or being sick. Or similar things to provide a plausible explanation of why Trump won, despite his overall tepid (and completely manufactured) following and more than 50% of the population not voting and him not even winning the popular vote.
For a supposed conspiracy theorist you sure swallow a lot of MSM talking points at face value.

devil21
09-20-2018, 08:07 PM
For a supposed conspiracy theorist you sure swallow a lot of MSM talking points at face value.

That's some impressive irony you displayed, seeing how you post practically nothing but Fox News approved talking points.

For the record, I witnessed the manufactured appeal of Trump on various right leaning forums and websites. It was obvious to seasoned internet users that his support was being created via massive amounts of propaganda.

Ender
09-21-2018, 11:16 AM
That's some impressive irony you displayed, seeing how you post practically nothing but Fox News approved talking points.

For the record, I witnessed the manufactured appeal of Trump on various right leaning forums and websites. It was obvious to seasoned internet users that his support was being created via massive amounts of propaganda.

Exactly what I've been saying from the start of Trump's campaign.

timosman
09-21-2018, 11:26 AM
Exactly what I've been saying from the start of Trump's campaign.

Do you happen to be an open borders supporter? :cool:

Ender
09-21-2018, 12:28 PM
Do you happen to be an open borders supporter? :cool:

Do you happen to be a troll? :cool:

TheTexan
09-21-2018, 12:34 PM
... Palestinian claims to ...

I stopped reading here. Palestinians don't have a claim to anything, because Palestine isn't even a country.

Ender
09-22-2018, 12:54 PM
I stopped reading here. Palestinians don't have a claim to anything, because Palestine isn't even a country.

Ah yes, because the west won't allow it. Silly Palestinians.

enhanced_deficit
03-09-2019, 01:04 AM
Even so, Russian media is crossing the line if this is confirmed s non-fakenews:

Russian experts label Trump 'CLOWN' after failed North Korea nuclear summit with Kim Jong

RUSSIAN experts branded Donald Trump a “clown” after the US President's disastrous Vietnam summit with North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un.

Mar 8, 2019
Trump Kim Summit: 'No agreement was reached' says Trump

Vladimir Putin’s state-run media praised the brutal North Korean leader following failed negotiations on denuclearisation, but was left ridiculing Mr Trump. The US president failed to win concessions from Kim Jong-un over scrapping nuclear weapons during this week’s Hanoi summit. Yesterday, South Korean intelligence agencies said they had detected signs North Korea is ramping a missile launch site it was dismantling dismantle after the first summit with Mr Trump in 2018.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1097731/donald-trump-clown-kim-jong-un-nuclear-summit-failed-russia

AZJoe
05-02-2019, 06:43 AM
Wow even Eliz Warren is dropping Netanyahu

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enhanced_deficit
05-02-2019, 10:53 PM
Forget Putin, Trump is Acting in Every Way Like Netanyahu’s Manchurian Candidate

https://www.mintpressnews.com/forget-putin-trump-is-the-perfect-manchurian-candidate-for-netanyahu/249393/


What is somewhat conserning is that both libertarians and liberals seem to be aligning on this view while GOP-MAGA wing is standing aloof in the opposite corner with our closest ally, this could become a dangerous alliance if such convergence continued through 2020 isolating current GOP.

Flood Of Condemnations Of NYT For Antisemitic Trump Cartoon (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?533964-Flood-Of-Condemnations-Of-NYT-For-Antisemitic-Trump-Cartoon&)
https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIF.DaTpwXQvMLP73C8aDrvOog&w=241&h=162&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7