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Swordsmyth
09-04-2018, 01:38 PM
A pact of five nation states dedicated to a global “collect it all” surveillance mission (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/15/crux-nsa-collect-it-all) has issued a memo calling on their governments to demand tech companies build backdoor access to their users’ encrypted data — or face measures to force companies to comply.
The international pact — the US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, known as the so-called “Five Eyes” group of nations — quietly issued the memo last week demanding that providers “create customized solutions, tailored to their individual system architectures that are capable of meeting lawful access requirements.”
This kind of backdoor access would allow each government access to encrypted call and message data on their citizens. If the companies don’t voluntarily allow access, the nations threatened to push through new legislation that would compel their help.
“Should governments continue to encounter impediments to lawful access to information necessary to aid the protection of the citizens of our countries, we may pursue technological, enforcement, legislative or other measures to achieve lawful access solutions,” read the memo (https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/about/national-security/five-country-ministerial-2018/access-evidence-encryption), issued by the Australian government on behalf of the pact.

More at: http://technologywatch.ca/mobility/five-eyes-governments-call-on-tech-giants-to-build-encryption-backdoors-or-else/

VIDEODROME
09-04-2018, 02:40 PM
I'm not sure if that can be done without creating an obvious flaw quickly exploited by hackers. Doesn't Encryption work based on a unique Key or Hash or something tied to a Password? Asking for a Backdoor assumes all data is scrambled in an identical way and I'm not sure that is true. Maybe someone else here understands this better?

I think all these politicians understand is they need a Password to login into Windows or maybe unlock a Zipped File or PDF and like typical users they don't grasp what a complicated demand this is.

Besides what systems to these governments use? Will they develop their own unique Federal systems or encryption standards or just use the same system they just demanded have a backdoor?

DamianTV
09-04-2018, 03:00 PM
The math on encryption is quite solid.

What isnt solid is the way many encryption programs handle all the data, which is where they will want the backdoors. Oh, are you encrypting something? Better auto-send that encryption key to the NSA.

Besides what could be more dangerous to the entire planet than two small business partners who want to negotiate how to do business with each other! Those are your REAL targets of encryption, not Terrorists. And who is going to have the resources and hardware to reveal the contents of everything encrypted? Why established businesses like Google and Amazon of course!

We were wrong. Its NOT a Walled Garden. Its a Chicken Coup.

Grandmastersexsay
09-04-2018, 04:22 PM
I'm not sure if that can be done without creating an obvious flaw quickly exploited by hackers.

It can't.

If something like this is shoved through, all in the name of "safety", we're looking at the largest data breach in history happening as a result. Do you know how many Americans use their phone for online banking and shopping?

timosman
09-04-2018, 04:43 PM
It can't.

If something like this is shoved through, all in the name of "safety", we're looking at the largest data breach in history happening as a result. Do you know how many Americans use their phone for online banking and shopping?

Don't worry. It will only be used by good guys.:cool:

Bern
09-04-2018, 07:34 PM
Well, that's some bullshit.