Trouble for Trump: Disapproval at a high, 63% back Mueller

[Zippyjuan]

His popularity even declined among Republicans in the latest poll. 45% say corruption has increased under Trump while 13% say it has decreased.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trouble-trump-disapproval-high-63-back-mueller-half/story?id=57507081


Disapproval of Donald Trump is at a new high, support for the Mueller investigation is broad and half of Americans in a new ABC News/Washington Post poll favor Congress initiating impeachment proceedings against the president.

Sixty percent in the national survey disapprove of Trump’s performance in office, numerically the highest of his presidency, albeit by a single point; that includes 53 percent who disapprove strongly, more than half for the first time. Thirty-six percent approve, matching his low.

The results come a week after Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, was convicted of fraud, and his former longtime personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, pleaded guilty to eight felonies, including illegal campaign finance actions that he said Trump directed.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/Trump_and_the_Investigation_Poll-0830181_hpEmbed_3x2_608.jpg

Trump’s average approval rating since taking office is the lowest for any president in modern polling since the 1940s. One factor: Contrary to his “drain the swamp” rhetoric, 45 percent say corruption in Washington has increased under Trump, while just 13 percent say it’s declined.


Approval, Groups

The president’s approval rating is highly partisan, but with relative challenges for Trump across the board. His job rating matches his low among Republicans (78 percent approve) and Democrats (6 percent) alike. It’s 35 percent among independents.

He’s at new lows among college-educated Americans (albeit just by a point; 29 percent approve), moderates (24 percent) and blacks (3 percent, with a nearly unanimous 93 percent disapproving).

The single biggest shift is among college-educated white women – just 23 percent now approve of Trump, down 17 points from the peak in April 2017, with disapproval up 20 points, from 55 percent then to 75 percent now. Still, even among non-college white men, a core Trump group, his approval is down 15 points, from 70 percent just this spring to 55 percent today.

More at link.

[phill4paul]

Yawn.

[timosman]

Yawn.

Putting Hillary in jail would definitely make things more exciting. He used me to improve his ratings. :cool:

[Swordsmyth]

Hitlery was 90% likely to win.

[fedupinmo]

Another box of truth from the All Bolshevic Channel?

[AuH20]

He would have never been elected if these numbers were real.

[timosman]

He would have never been elected if these numbers were real.

Maybe he wasn't? Can you trust your own mind? :D

[spudea]

His approval was actually approaching highs, Rasmussen had him at 50% approval recently, so the MSM needed a garbage poll to reinforce their narrative that the past couple weeks have hurt him.

[dude58677]

LOL, you still believe in polls. This just proves how little you know about the 2016 election.

[Aratus]

2020 looms. Bernie wants to run. Hillary is thinking about it.
The Donald already created a campaign organization for 2020.
You think sucky poll numbers are going to hold him back???

[Aratus]

In order for him NOT to run, he'd have to be impeached, convicted and then NOT PARDONED
so that if he has to face a court trial or two, he will actually sit in a jail cell, if found guilty. This
assumes that he does not try to get elected again from the same said jail cell I feel he will not
see, ever.... because POTUS PENCE will be under pressure to give him a federal pardon. Nixon
gave it all up, he simply retired as his phlebitis flared up. His health was lousy, and he knew it.

[RonZeplin]

2020 looms. Bernie wants to run. Hillary is thinking about it.
The Donald already created a campaign organization for 2020.
You think sucky poll numbers are going to hold him back???

Trump has the best chance of losing, so the GOP will go with him 100%. They're sick of trying to make up multidimensional chess excuses for him. :directhit:

Blame it on the Democrats is much easier.

[milgram]

Mueller will run as a Democrat and win the presidency. Screencap this.

[timosman]

Mueller will run as a Democrat and win the presidency. Screencap this.

When is he going to announce?:confused:

[Aratus]

Mueller will run as a Democrat and win the presidency. Screencap this.

Do not rule this out. The Left Wing papers are praising his job skills.
Mueller(D) or Trump(R) is an interesting choice. I hope Rand is the VEEP
on the next GOP ticket, Harding/Coolidge smucked Cox/Roosevelt. Both
veeps on the fall tickets became presidents. 2020 could do a likewise.

[Swordsmyth]

Trump has the best chance of losing, so the GOP will go with him 100%. They're sick of trying to make up multidimensional chess excuses for him. :directhit:

Blame it on the Democrats is much easier.

LOL

[Swordsmyth]

Mueller will run as a Democrat and win the presidency. Screencap this.

LOL

[angelatc]

Yawn.

I think we can assume that Zippy's unfavorable ratings exceed Trump's. But Zippy carries on, meaning we can assume he does not care about his approval ratings.

Therefore, I suppose he also understands that Trump probably does not, either.

Which means he's trolling us.

[oyarde]

His popularity even declined among Republicans in the latest poll. 45% say corruption has increased under Trump while 13% say it has decreased.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trouble-trump-disapproval-high-63-back-mueller-half/story?id=57507081





More at link.

It really makes no sense . Mueller is certainly corrupt so if the poll is just saying 6 /10 's of america is challenged , well we all already knew that .

[phill4paul]

I think we can assume that Zippy's unfavorable ratings exceed Trump's. But Zippy carries on, meaning we can assume he does not care about his approval ratings.

Therefore, I suppose he also understands that Trump probably does not, either.

Which means he's trolling us.

Yeah, but he has a 72.333% approval ratings with his co-workers. So, that is what drives him.

[Danke]

I think we can assume that Zippy's unfavorable ratings exceed Trump's. But Zippy carries on, meaning we can assume he does not care about his approval ratings.

Therefore, I suppose he also understands that Trump probably does not, either.

Which means he's trolling us.

https://media.tenor.com/images/431a41d27509c8c5a2b81231581c95e2/tenor.gif

[Working Poor]

says ABC and Zippy

[Zippyjuan]

LOL, you still believe in polls. This just proves how little you know about the 2016 election.

You mean the one where Trump DID lose the popular vote?

[Swordsmyth]

You mean the one where Trump DID lose the popular vote?

In certain states, thanks to voter fraud, the state by state polls claimed Hitlery would win the EC by a wide margin.

[nobody's_hero]

yay polls.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqEddipbpkw

[Danke]

You mean the one where Trump DID lose the popular vote?


If only legitimate voters were counted, he won that too.

[timosman]

You mean the one where Trump DID lose the popular vote?

Same one. :cool:

[Aratus]

You mean the one where Trump DID lose the popular vote?

Point to Zippy. Law = Electoral College

Hence why this is retred of 1876 & 2000.

[Aratus]

This is also why I talk about 1868,1974 and 1999
Let alone DNA testing and Ms.Monica's dress spots.

[dude58677]

You mean the one where Trump DID lose the popular vote?

The Electoral College kept a tyrant out of the White House.

[Aratus]

The Electoral College kept a tyrant out of the White House.

THEN IT PLACED A TOTALITARIAN DESPOT IN IT AS THE LESSER
OF TWO EVILs. Empress Hillary could have been impeached after her
first year. It's taking the Democrats longer to unthrown HERR TRUMP.

[Aratus]

In 2016 the public at large was voting for POTUS Kaine or PRESIDENT Pence. Period.

[Aratus]

Right now, we are within a year or a year and a half of Mike Pence as our president.

[Swordsmyth]

THEN IT PLACED A TOTALITARIAN DESPOT IN IT AS THE LESSER
OF TWO EVILs. Empress Hillary could have been impeached after her
first year.
Even if that happened her replacement would have been worse than Trump


It's taking the Democrats longer to unthrown HERR TRUMP.
Thank heaven.

[Swordsmyth]

In 2016 the public at large was voting for POTUS Kaine or PRESIDENT Pence. Period.

Not really, neither of those two is inspirational at all, voters were either for or against Trump

[Swordsmyth]

Right now, we are within a year or a year and a half of Mike Pence as our president.

Pence will never be president.

[Aratus]

Even if that happened her replacement would have been worse than Trump


Thank heaven.
They have yet to articulate out a unified strategy as to what
to do with him on the days when he is more "fundie" than
if somebody put a lot of starch in the wash that has Mitt
Romney's sincere underwear in it that he wears religiously
And cleanly. They at times do not realize how much they
need the moderate/centrist/neocons who vote BUSH to flip.

[Aratus]

Pence will never be president.

Each time Donald f#cks up a public appearance,
Ole Mike Pence goes to it and acts dignified. Just
watch what he does. He does and doesn't want
the job, but he thinks Trump is too sinful to last.
Pence forgets what Clinton's private life was like.

[timosman]

They have yet to articulate out a unified strategy as to what
to do with him on the days when he is more "fundie" than
if somebody put a lot of starch in the wash that has Mitt
Romney's sincere underwear in it that he wears religiously
And cleanly. They at times do not realize how much they
need the moderate/centrist/neocons who vote BUSH to flip.

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/storyimage/CN/20180705/OPINION/180709974/AR/0/AR-180709974.jpg

[Aratus]

Not really, neither of those two is inspirational at all, voters were either for or against Trump

Or alternatively, they framed the contest as being for or against
EMPRESS HILLARY, mate to KYNGE WILLIAM (Jefferson) BLYTHE.

[Swordsmyth]

Or alternatively, they framed the contest as being for or against
EMPRESS HILLARY, mate to KYNGE WILLIAM (Jefferson) BLYTHE.
Nobody was for Hitlery, a few were against her without being for Trump.

[Aratus]

Nobody was for Hitlery, a few were against her without being for Trump.

Half the Democrats wanted Bernie but the rest of 'em actually did like her.
When Trump looked less bellicose and threatening, Bernie people sat out
the election too often, her numbers slip behind Obama's slightly. Curiously.

[Aratus]

Personally, there are days when I think Trump's core cult group is bigger and more fanatical
than hers, but she too has a BIGLY cult group that is almost as politically effective as Bernie's.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

I don't buy news organization polls. No, not Fox either. I'll believe this when Pew or Rasmussen back it up.

[Swordsmyth]

I don't buy news organization polls. No, not Fox either. I'll believe this when Pew or Rasmussen back it up.

I wouldn't be so sure even then.

[Aratus]

True... An outsider would think by now Elizabeth Warren would find being re-elected to be difficult.
But it's not for her. I would be more surprised at her loosing this November than I was in '16 when
msHillary lost. I live here. I want to take on ED MARKEY. The easier task. I can debate this all again.

[Zippyjuan]

I don't buy news organization polls. No, not Fox either. I'll believe this when Pew or Rasmussen back it up.

Pew has Trump's approval rating within the Republican party falling from a high of 90% to 84% and his overall approval at 39% (June was the latest poll of theirs I could find). http://www.people-press.org/2018/06/20/1-views-of-donald-trump/

[dude58677]

Pew has Trump's approval rating within the Republican party falling from a high of 90% to 84% and his overall approval at 39% (June was the latest poll of theirs I could find). http://www.people-press.org/2018/06/20/1-views-of-donald-trump/

Once again, you’ve learned NOTHING from the 2016 election.

[AuH20]

So freaking funny. Shameless people 'conducting' these polls.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/brad-parscale-calls-out-abc-for-latest-junk-poll-with-only-25-gop-participation/

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[Zippyjuan]

So freaking funny. Shameless people 'conducting' these polls.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/brad-parscale-calls-out-abc-for-latest-junk-poll-with-only-25-gop-participation/

1035547616086515714

Don't like poll results, it must be fake.

Obviously somebody who does not understand polling. Polls are weighted. You don't get exactly the same portion of all groups participating in a poll as those found in the general population so you weight them. If 30% of the population is Republican then the Republican responders to your poll count as 30% of the final poll results. It does not matter if 25% of the participants were Republican. The poll was also only 33% Democrats.

The "biased question":


Do you approve or disapprove of the way Donald Trump is handling his job as
president? Do you feel that way strongly or somewhat?

Other polls (besides Rasmussen which gives Trump a 48% favorable rating) have all given similar results.

[devil21]

Remember kiddies, polls are used to form opinion, not report it.

[Origanalist]

Remember kiddies, polls are used to form opinion, not report it.

/ thread.

[dude58677]

Don't like poll results, it must be fake.

Obviously somebody who does not understand polling. Polls are weighted. You don't get exactly the same portion of all groups participating in a poll as those found in the general population so you weight them. If 30% of the population is Republican then the Republican responders to your poll count as 30% of the final poll results. It does not matter if 25% of the participants were Republican. The poll was also only 33% Democrats.

The "biased question":





Other polls (besides Rasmussen which gives Trump a 48% favorable rating) have all given similar results.

You said that before Hillary lost the election.

[eleganz]

Is zip a socialist or something? I know libertarians that don't like Trump but don't actually suffer from TDS

[Swordsmyth]

Is zip a socialist or something?

Yes and the "Or something" options are all worse.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZHgXWxZDbg&t=16s

Food for thought. This guy predicted 48 states correctly, as I recall.

[UWDude]

Pence will never be president.

I know exactly what you mean.
Dead trump, = dead count, dead zippy, dead sleepy todd.
No President Pence, no peace.

[Swordsmyth]

I know exactly what you mean.
Dead trump, = dead count, dead zippy, dead sleepy todd.
No President Pence, no peace.
Aside from that scenario they would still never kill or impeach Trump without dealing with Pence first or at the same time, the plan would be to make Pelosi President after making her Speaker of the House.

[timosman]

Aside from that scenario they would still never kill or impeach Trump without dealing with Pence first or at the same time, the plan would be to make Pelosi President after making her Speaker of the House.

We should be paying closer attention to Nancy. :cool:

[Swordsmyth]

We should be paying closer attention to Nancy. :cool:
I try but it makes my head hurt.

[Aratus]

Remember kiddies, polls are used to form opinion, not report it.

Experts loop them, the numbers generated influence public opinion,
which then influences the next set of poll numbers, even so, inside
this mix of madness, his approval ratings are dropping. He has limits.

[Aratus]

We should be paying closer attention to Nancy. :cool:


I try but it makes my head hurt.

We may be stuck with POTUS Pence mansplaining things to Speaker Nancy
as she womansplains things back to him. Picture Jerry Ford going "fundie"...

[Aratus]

Not unless Pence is given the boot first for some strange reason will you see an effort
in both parties to hardscrabble for the Speaker position. Paul Ryan runs a risk if Pence
and Trump quit near X-mas of having to be sworn in. Go figure. Ms.Nancy =\= shoe-in