Trump blames Google for tweaking news against him, considers regulations

[kpitcher]

Google search results for “Trump News” shows only the viewing/reporting of Fake New Media. In other words, they have it RIGGED, for me & others, so that almost all stories & news is BAD. Fake CNN is prominent. Republican/Conservative & Fair Media is shut out. Illegal? 96% of...
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 28, 2018

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/28/donald-trump-considering-regulations-google-search-engine-aide/1108261002/


WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump is considering new regulations on Google's search engine to address his concern that it turns up too many stories that are critical of him, his top economic adviser, Larry Kudlow, said Tuesday.

Kudlow, the director of Trump’s National Economic Council, told reporters that the administration is “taking a look” at federal regulations for Google.




Maybe Trump is just mad people fooled the google algorithm and pulled a santorum on his name
https://www.google.com/search?q=idiot




What happened to the days of the GOP looking to deregulate more things? If big donors and/or votes come from coal or oil I guess you deregulate, but tech must not donate enough?

[Swordsmyth]

Trump Takes Aim at Google, Claims Search Results ‘RIGGED’ Against Him: ‘Illegal?’ (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?525848-Trump-Takes-Aim-at-Google-Claims-Search-Results-‘RIGGED’-Against-Him-‘Illegal-’)

[Zippyjuan]

Republican/Conservative & Fair Media is shut out.

Fox dropped their "Fair and Balanced" slogan last year. They don't even pretend anymore.

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.wired.com/story/trump-google-news-algorithm-target/


WHY GOOGLE IS THE PERFECT TARGET FOR TRUMP

A FULL HOUR before the sun rose in Washington, DC, Tuesday, President Donald Trump fired off a pair of tweets claiming that Google had “rigged” search results against conservatives. Like so many Trump grievances, the argument seems steeped less in fact than in a roiling stew of personal animus. But in Google News, the latest subject of his ire, Trump may have found the perfect target.

In Trump’s tweets—which he later deleted, then tweeted again, with no substantive changes—you can see the outlines of an attack that can’t be easily fact-checked or dismissed. Charges of bias against Google will stick, because no algorithm is truly neutral. And while Trump’s logic is specious, effectively countering it would require acceptance among his base that mainstream news sources like The New York Times are not, actually, the enemy of the people.

In truth, there’s a lot going on with these two tweets. So much so that it’s helpful to break down what Trump’s claiming, and why, and what he plans to do about it, sentence by sentence:

Google search results for 'Trump News' shows only the viewing/reporting of Fake News Media.

Here, Trump is including not just The New York Times, CNN, and familiar targets under the "Fake News Media" umbrella, but every major media outlet other than The Wall Street Journal and The Economist. We know this because his entire argument appears to be based on this recent story in PJ Media, which claims outrageous bias in Google News results against conservative sites, yet counts everything from Reuters and Bloomberg to the Columbia Journalism Review as left-leaning. (Trump not only cites a specific statistic from the PJ media piece, suggesting strongly that’s his source, but also famously doesn’t use a computer. Googling "Trump News" is not a lived experience for him.)

In a statement, Google rejected Trump’s premise: “Search is not used to set a political agenda and we don't bias our results toward any political ideology. Every year, we issue hundreds of improvements to our algorithms to ensure they surface high-quality content in response to users' queries. We continually work to improve Google Search and we never rank search results to manipulate political sentiment.”




The idea that Google and other platforms have shut out conservative voices is also broadly incorrect. “What we have found over and over again, for a long time, is that the most conservative and racist and misogynist voices are deeply skilled in optimizing content, and have had more than their fair share of control and representation in search. In fact, it was that phenomenon that led to President Trump getting elected,” adds Noble. “The ways in which right-wing organizations have been able to manipulate Google and Facebook have actually worked in Donald Trump’s favor."


"96% of results on “Trump News” are from National Left-Wing Media, very dangerous."

See above. The 96 percent number comes from the PJ Media story, which defines “National Left-Wing Media” as anything mainstream. Yet a study following the 2016 election actually found the candidate who most benefited from mainstream media bias was Trump, since coverage of Hillary Clinton was found to be overwhelmingly negative, and mainstream outlets paid comparatively little attention to Bernie Sanders.


“When it comes to a regular Google search, people still might not realize what that represents,” says Lewis. “There’s preferential attachment for sites that have been around a long time. Sites that have more incoming links are seen as having higher authority. There are certain terms over time where you develop that Google juice, that gives you more salience in the rankings. The same factors that go into Google search go into Google News.”


"This is a very serious situation-will be addressed!"

It’s not clear what sort of regulation Trump has in mind here. White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow said Tuesday that the administration was “taking a look” at the possibility—but even the threat has serious implications.

"We should take seriously when political leaders threaten speech and media coverage they don’t like," says UMich's Nyhan. "We should worry about not just formal mechanisms of power but informal ones, political leaders bullying companies into their skewing search results or their coverage because of the threat that they'll be attacked by political leaders, or subject to regulation or other types of scrutiny.”

more at link.

[Anti Federalist]

Trump is right.

Look at these results from Google and DuckDuckgo.

Same browser, same ISP, same date and time, same search terms.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=bQ2HW5jUK-jl_Qac0Y2oBg&q=Andrew+Gillum+on+homeschooling&oq=Andrew+Gillum+on+homeschooling&gs_l=psy-ab.3...25369.34310.0.36264.30.26.0.4.4.0.144.2461. 21j5.26.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.29.2476...0j0i131k1j0i22i30k1j33i160k1j33i21 k1.0.3jpedjJk_N4
https://i.imgur.com/FLjl9Ys.jpg

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Andrew+Gillum+on+homeschooling&t=hi&ia=web
https://i.imgur.com/eKBiyca.jpg

You'd never have any idea Soros was funding Gillum from the top Screwgle results.

[Zippyjuan]

Soros was funding home schooling? Seems that the Google results were more relevant to the query. You didn't ask about Soros. Add Soros to your search and you get lots of results.

[timosman]

Soros was funding home schooling? Seems that the Google results were more relevant to the query. You didn't ask about Soros.

And Google couldn't figure it out. DuckDuckGo is biased! :D

[Swordsmyth]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1034907478566359041

1034907478566359041

[DamianTV]

Irony: Trump is "NOT ALLOWED" to block any users on Twitter, however Twitter is allowed to Shadow Ban any conservatives including Trump they dont approve of.

[Anti Globalist]

An alpha male calling out what an alpha males gotta call out.

[RJB]

You'd never have any idea Soros was funding Gillum from the top Screwgle results.I usually say thanks in rep, but I am out. I knew Google was slanted, but wow... Thanks for the info.

[Anti Federalist]

Soros was funding home schooling? Seems that the Google results were more relevant to the query. You didn't ask about Soros. Add Soros to your search and you get lots of results.

You can do better than that...

[thoughtomator]

Four days after Miriam Carey was gunned down in DC and Congress gave a standing ovation to her murderers:

https://i.imgur.com/65hoPZq.png

Google's been at this news censorship business quite some time. It is not new at all.

[Zippyjuan]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1034907478566359041

1034907478566359041

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https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/29/17798118/president-donald-trump-google-state-of-the-union-address-liberal-bias


Trump’s latest misleading attack on Google, explained

The president falsely claimed Google did not link to State of the Union addresses

President Donald Trump intensified his criticism of Google today, posting a native video of unknown origin to his Twitter account this afternoon claiming the search giant stopped promoting the State of the Union (SOTU) address on its homepage after he took office. It turns out the video he posted is not only misleading, but also contains what appears to be a fake screenshot of the Google homepage on the day in question. It has since been viewed more than 1.5 million times.

As Gizmodo notes, however, whoever made the video could have simply pulled the first screenshot of the Google homepage for those dates from the Wayback Machine, which doesn’t accurately reflect changes to the interactive portions of the page, like Google Doodles and links to YouTube Live.

In a statement given to The Verge, a Google spokesperson clarifies that the company promoted neither former President Barack Obama nor Trump’s inaugural SOTU addresses in 2009 and 2017, respectively. That’s because they were not technically State of the Union addresses, but “addresses to a joint session” of Congress, a tradition set back in 1993 so that new presidents didn’t have to immediately deliver SOTU addresses after holding office for just a few weeks. Google resumed promoting Obama’s SOTU address in 2010 and continued to do so through 2016, as he held office for all six of those years.

With regards to the 2018 SOTU, Google says it did in fact promote it on its homepage. “On January 30th 2018, we highlighted the livestream of President Trump’s State of the Union on the google.com homepage,” reads Google’s statement. “We have historically not promoted the first address to Congress by a new President, which is not a State of the Union address. As a result, we didn’t include a promotion on google.com for this address in either 2009 or 2017.” Interestingly enough, a screenshot posted to the Trump-centric subreddit, r/The_Donald, shows the Google homepage on January 30th promoting Trump’s SOTU address that evening. It was posted seven months ago, while the address was ongoing.

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[Danke]

https://pics.me.me/how-google-celebrates-ramadan-how-google-celebrates-easter-google-uk-35768542.png

[Swordsmyth]

Trump is right.

Look at these results from Google and DuckDuckgo.

Same browser, same ISP, same date and time, same search terms.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=bQ2HW5jUK-jl_Qac0Y2oBg&q=Andrew+Gillum+on+homeschooling&oq=Andrew+Gillum+on+homeschooling&gs_l=psy-ab.3...25369.34310.0.36264.30.26.0.4.4.0.144.2461. 21j5.26.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.29.2476...0j0i131k1j0i22i30k1j33i160k1j33i21 k1.0.3jpedjJk_N4
https://i.imgur.com/FLjl9Ys.jpg

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Andrew+Gillum+on+homeschooling&t=hi&ia=web
https://i.imgur.com/eKBiyca.jpg

You'd never have any idea Soros was funding Gillum from the top Screwgle results.

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/4270792293e762f77681e850c1fc32bb60059510810e1e7d70 66e4171384bb81.png

[Swordsmyth]

Responding to reports that Silicon Valley social media platforms are censoring conservatives, President Trump stepped up his criticism of technology firms - telling Bloomberg in a wide-ranging interview (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-30/trump-threatens-pull-out-wto-praises-powell-says-sessions-safe-now) that they may be in a "very antitrust situation," while repeatedly censoring himself over whether or not the companies should be broken up.
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/trump%20arms%20folded%201.png
“I won’t comment on the breaking up, of whether it’s that [Google] or Amazon or Facebook,” Trump said in an Oval Office interview Thursday with Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-30/google-under-fire-again-on-search-as-hatch-calls-for-ftc-probe). “As you know, many people think it is a very anti-trust situation, the three of them. But I just, I won’t comment on that.”

BREAKING: Trump said some people see an “antitrust situation” with Google, Facebook and Amazon.

But he said “I just can’t comment. I won’t comment on the breaking up, of whether it’s that (Google) or Amazon or Facebook.”

"Look the conservatives have been treated very unfairly."
— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) August 30, 2018 (https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1035270950273593345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-30/trump-says-google-facebook-very-antitrust-situation

[TheCount]

All three of them are monopolies? Monopolies on what?

[Zippyjuan]

All three of them are monopolies? Monopolies on what?

Google "A" will get to handle words with the first third of the alphabet.
Google "B" will get the middle third of the alphabet and
Google "C" will get the last third of the alphabet to search through.

Trump will provide them with a list of "Trump Approved" sources they can cite.

[timosman]

Google "A" will get to handle words with the first third of the alphabet.
Google "B" will get the middle third of the alphabet and
Google "C" will get the last third of the alphabet to search through.

Trump will provide them with a list of "Trump Approved" sources they can cite.

Sounds like an inside joke. :confused:

[Madison320]

All three of them are monopolies? Monopolies on what?

This is why there shouldn't be antitrust laws.

[Anti-Neocon]

Make America China Again