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dude58677
08-28-2018, 07:23 PM
1) We have a President who is a non-career politician. The first in American history.

2) The State Nullification movement is still active even with Republicans in power.

3) Jury nullification worked on Cliven Bundy and his family.

4) The Oath Keepers did a great job defending Cliven Bundy.

5) The Oathkeepers are a professional Constitutional police force. We never had anything like this.

6) Politicians such as the Bushes and Clinton’s are no longer popular.

7) The President pardoned one of Cliven Bundy’s friends.

8) This all started because of Ron Paul.

timosman
08-28-2018, 07:25 PM
Speaking truth is no longer dangerous? :confused:

dude58677
08-28-2018, 07:26 PM
Speaking truth is no longer dangerous? :confused:

Well not everything is going well but most things.

DamianTV
08-28-2018, 07:40 PM
Its definitely a change to the direction we were headed before. I think we still have problems, but when someone is in office that does not conform to the standard "Lets Fuck America Over" attitude, its has a potential to keep us from shipwrecking. It may still happen, but at least they are not ALL against the people.

Anti Federalist
08-28-2018, 09:11 PM
Not "exceptional" - we still suffer under a tremendous tax burden, a demographic warfare invasion, a police/surveillance state that would make the old East Germany drool, a crushing national debt and global military empire, just to name a few things.

But I am willing to be objective and say yes, things are looking better, Ron and Rand did have an impact and progress is being made in the right direction, and Trump has turned out to be be much better than I had expected.

Champ
08-28-2018, 10:00 PM
Yes, you see Rand and especially Ron's philosophy embedded in much of the national discussion now regarding a lot of the most talked about issues now. I would go even so far as to say Rand has become a sidekick or a mentor to Trump. And this has in large part lead to much of the decline of the elites status as our all knowing father and mother, our supposed saviors, that always just needed a little bit more tax revenue to fix all of our problems.

Trump piggy backed on Ron's success in 2008/2012. The assault on the media, making a stand in the name of common sense instead of lawyer/political speak garbage, and the exposure of deep corruption found all over Washington and many of our institutions can be traced back almost directly to many of the debates and speeches Ron gave in 2007/2008.

We are still deep inside of a hell hole, and it feels hopeless at times because there is so much sludge to have to claw through, but we are slowly learning our way to climb back up top as the lessons of the Paul's and others are slowly taking effect and absorbed into conscience and culture. Glad to see it happening in real time.

Mach
08-28-2018, 10:20 PM
Just goes to show that a politically correct President is the last thing this country needs to improve.

Just remember, the Neocons are always planning in the background, no matter who's in Office.

Aratus
08-28-2018, 10:27 PM
At least we are not at war with Iran today, or North Korea.
In addition to everything else done after 911 until now...

idiom
08-28-2018, 10:41 PM
Trump could try to start a war, and the media might not shill for it. That would be a massive achievement.

AuH20
08-28-2018, 11:04 PM
We were once helpless in the dark. Now we have a torch and sword. A fighting chance so to speak. Not great odds, but not abysmal either.

dannno
08-28-2018, 11:10 PM
Trump could try to start a war, and the media might not shill for it. That would be a massive achievement.

Wow, you have it completely backwards.

The media pushes him to go to war, and if he goes to war they celebrate it. He has been figuring out ways to push back against the deep state and their wars.