Cops Can Now See Items In Cars Using Thermal Imaging

[angelatc]

https://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2018/08/mobile_imaging_device_finds_gu.html


When city police showed up, Gerow said, a new thermal imaging device was used and detected what appeared to be a firearm in the trunk of the silver rental car.

"They found two more guns in the passenger compartment of the vehicle," Gerow said

[Schifference]

This is wonderful news. They should have no excuse for shooting unarmed people any longer.

[tod evans]

Cops have been using thermal imaging technology for decades but it's been costly to obtain.

What I'm reading is that it's come way down in price and the tech has improved drastically...

[DamianTV]

People might say it is the technology that has outpaced the law. Um, I rather think this falls under the "Search" part of "Unlawful Search and Seizure".

[sam1952]

Funny, I guess you have to read between the lines in the article. It only mentions the suspects going to jail. they never mentioned if the guns were legal/illegal or used in the shooting at BK.

[Anti Globalist]

Great. Surely the cops won't use it for evil purposes.

[angelatc]

Cops have been using thermal imaging technology for decades but it's been costly to obtain.

What I'm reading is that it's come way down in price and the tech has improved drastically...

There is a picture of it in the article. It llooks like a flashlight.

[tod evans]

People might say it is the technology that has outpaced the law. Um, I rather think this falls under the "Search" part of "Unlawful Search and Seizure".

All that matters is that the kops go home safely.....:rolleyes:

[Swordsmyth]

People might say it is the technology that has outpaced the law. Um, I rather think this falls under the "Search" part of "Unlawful Search and Seizure".

^^^THIS^^^

[Dr.3D]

I think they are talking about one of these....
https://www.amazon.com/Leupold-LTO-Tracker-Termal-Viewer/dp/B01KVW8NVY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1534984454&sr=8-5&keywords=leupold+lto+tracker

Now how it the world anybody could use that to see through the metal wall of a car trunk, I would really like to see.

Guess they had to have an excuse to stop that car and thought one up after the fact.

[r3volution 3.0]

Um, I rather think this falls under the "Search" part of "Unlawful Search and Seizure".

The SCOTUS agrees, AFAIK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyllo_v._United_States


Kyllo v. United States, 533 U.S. 27 (2001),[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyllo_v._United_States#cite_note-1) held in a 5–4 decision that the use of a thermal imaging (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_imaging), or FLIR (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLIR), device from a public vantage point to monitor the radiation of heat from a person's home was a "search" within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution ), and thus required a warrant.

So, not sure what the deal is with the situation in the OP.

[goldenequity]

The SCOTUS agrees, AFAIK.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyllo_v._United_States
So, not sure what the deal is with the situation in the OP.
nice catch...

[oyarde]

Where I live it is legal to carry around the shotgun and rifle I carry so there would never be a legitimate reason to pull me over .

[r3volution 3.0]

Where I live it is legal to carry around the shotgun and rifle I carry so there would never be a legitimate reason to pull me over .

They let injuns carry firearms among civilized folk?

[oyarde]

They let injuns carry firearms among civilized folk?

I carry a tomahawk , an ice pick and a bowie knife in the truck too , all within reach .

[r3volution 3.0]

I carry a tomahawk , an ice pick and a bowie knife in the truck too , all within reach .

All that must impinge on your fire water storage space.

[oyarde]

All that must impinge on your fire water storage space.

No , its a big truck , I have room for beverages too.

[r3volution 3.0]

No , its a big truck , I have room for beverages too.

Sounds like a nice arrangement. Just make sure you don't get mistaken for a Messicun and get yourself deported.

[oyarde]

Sounds like a nice arrangement. Just make sure you don't get mistaken for a Messicun and get yourself deported.

I use a picture of Danke on my ID so they would think I am OK .

[TheTexan]

The SCOTUS agrees, AFAIK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyllo_v._United_States



So, not sure what the deal is with the situation in the OP.

A search using thermal imaging is considered a "search"? Such a bullshit ruling.

[Brian4Liberty]

People might say it is the technology that has outpaced the law. Um, I rather think this falls under the "Search" part of "Unlawful Search and Seizure".

That would certainly be the original intent.

[r3volution 3.0]

A search using thermal imaging is considered a "search"? Such a bullshit ruling.

And apparently it applies to cars on public roads too.

We sweated and saved to build those glorious roads, and now we can't even be illegally searched on them!

:mad:

[Bern]

So this Leupold LTO thermal imager is NOT an x-ray "see through walls" device.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXI4dR1lY3E

In the video above, you couldn't see a human walking behind thick brush. I don't believe that it's going to show heat signatures behind walls.

In order for the police to see a firearm in the trunk of the car, they (most likely, IMO) had to have opened the trunk. The only advantage the Leupold LTO gave the cops was evidence that the firearms in the trunk had been fired recently (firing guns heats the barrel).

[fedupinmo]

https://i.imgflip.com/2gf674.jpg