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timosman
08-22-2018, 10:55 AM
https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/2018/08/18/california-bill-would-end-cash-bill-give-judges-more-discretion-legislature-criminal-justice-reform/1025664002/


Aug. 18, 2018

California is considering a massive shake-up in the way the justice system treats people accused of crimes — scrapping money-based bail but giving judges broad leeway to decide whether suspects should be held in jail before they go to trial.

It’s the result of nearly two years of work to craft a bill that would make California the first state to entirely eliminate the use of money bail. If enacted, it could be life-altering for low-income Californians. And, like so much in this state, it is shaping up as a tug of war between liberal and moderate visions for a state that can often be more cautious than it may appear.

The effort to end cash bail has been fueled by the argument that it’s fundamentally unfair to hold poor people in jail before trial while letting those with money go free. Instead, the argument goes, people should only be jailed if they pose a danger to society.

Yet as lawmakers moved in recent weeks into the final stages of crafting the bill, giving judges more say over who can be held in jail before trial, some civil rights advocates that once led the charge for bail reform in California began lobbying against it. They say the new version of the bill replaces the problematic money bail system with an equally problematic system that may perpetuate racial biases and leave just as many people locked up before trial.

On the flip side, judges, who opposed the old version of the bill, are now fully behind it, with the Judicial Council, the administrative body that oversees California’s court system, saying the proposal “appropriately balances public safety, fairness, and the rights of defendants and victims.”

The upshot is that the movement to end bail in California, once a progressive dream, has managed to splinter the left even as it promises to deliver a long-sought rethinking of criminal justice, leaving lawmakers to vote on a more centrist approach in the final weeks of the legislative session that ends Aug. 31.

“[This] provides judges with really unbridled discretion to be able to detain anyone, even people charged with misdemeanor crimes,” said San Francisco Public Defender Jeff Adachi, among those who once supported the bill but now oppose it.

“This bill creates all these categories and exceptions where a judge can keep someone in jail pending a trial, which really defeats the whole purpose of bail reform.”

Assemblyman Rob Bonta, an Alameda Democrat who is a co-author of the bill, said the bill is actually “fairer, it’s safer, it’s more just.”

“You can’t always accommodate everyone’s vision of what a new system should have, but this system is better,” said Bonta. “It will make a huge difference.”

The changes make the bill more likely to pass the Democratic-controlled Legislature, which last year rejected a bail-reform bill that had progressive backers but no buy-in from the courts. Gov. Jerry Brown has not indicated whether he will sign the bill, but his staff members have been involved in the negotiations, and Brown, back in 1979, called bail “an obvious tax on poor people.”

Under the bill, most people arrested for non-violent misdemeanors will be released within 12 hours of being booked. (There are some exceptions, including if they’re arrested for domestic violence or have recent felony convictions.) And people arrested for a long list of violent or sex crimes will automatically be held in jail.

Each county will establish a procedure for evaluating people awaiting trial to determine whether they are at high, medium or low risk of committing a crime or not showing up at court. Those considered a low risk would be set free until trial, those at high risk would be held in jail, and judges would have authority to decide how to handle those in the middle bracket.

Judges are best suited to make the call because they can examine a person’s prior record and evaluate whether they pose a danger, said Sen. Bob Hertzberg, a Van Nuys Democrat who is a co-author of the bill.

Rather than using a formula, “they will judge you as a person,” Hertzberg said. “That’s what justice is about, and simultaneously, that’s what safety is about.”

The bill also would give each county-level court the power to decide what kinds of crimes would put someone in the medium-risk bracket. And it would allow judges to hold people in jail “if there is a substantial likelihood” that they pose a danger or would not return to court.

The bill reflects a system that was recommended by Chief Justice Tani Cantil-Sakauye, who established a group of judges to study California’s bail system and wrote a report last year calling it “unsafe and unfair.”

That kind of local control is important, said Ronald Lawrence, vice president of the California Police Chiefs Association. The group doesn’t yet have a formal position on the bill, but Lawrence said the justice system is designed to give a lot of power to county courts.

“We have 58 counties in California; arguably, we’ve had 58 different interpretations of the law at the county level since 1850,” he said. “I think you’ll always have some type of inconsistency. That’s the way our system is.”

But giving judges so much leeway is exactly why some civil rights groups now oppose Senate Bill 10. They’re concerned that justice will be applied unevenly among counties and that ultimately judges will decide to keep too many Californians behind bars.

“They ended money bail but they did it at the expense of the freedom of communities that made this rallying cry to begin with,” said Raj Jayadev, a coordinator with Silicon Valley De-Bug.

His San Jose-based group was a sponsor of the bill when it was announced at the end of 2016. But Jayadev was more recently in the Capitol urging lawmakers to vote against it. Human Rights Watch also opposes the bill and the American Civil Liberties Union, originally a co-sponsor, is no longer supporting it.

“SB 10 needs to go further to be the model for pretrial justice and racial equity that we are working towards,” the ACLU said in a statement.

The group was among more than 100 national civil rights organizations that signed a letter last month raising concerns about the “risk assessment” tools that are being used in place of bail in a growing number of states and counties. The formulas that assess how likely someone is to commit a crime or fail to appear in court can exacerbate racial biases in the criminal justice system, the group said in a letter urging authorities to reduce their use.

Risk assessment tools are already used in several California counties, including Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, San Francisco, Ventura, Riverside and Imperial, according to the Judicial Council. And some states use them, too. Kentucky was among the first; New Jersey became a more recent addition when it passed a law last year that largely replaces bail with risk assessment.

Running California’s risk assessment program would likely cost the state about $200 million a year once the program is fully implemented in 2019, according to a budget analysis. The state may wind up saving some money if fewer people are incarcerated before trial.

Not surprisingly, it’s all left bail bondsmen furious and fighting for their livelihoods.

“You’re talking about an entire industry that goes back for generations, some to the 1850s. I guess their jobs are going to be shipped to the government sector,” said David Quintana, a lobbyist for the California Bail Agents Association.

But Jessica Bartholow, lobbyist for the Western Center on Law and Poverty, said shutting down money bail will alleviate financial stress for some of California’s neediest families:

“We will be preventing millions of dollars from leaving low-income communities and communities of color and going to a corporate money bail system.”

jkr
08-22-2018, 11:30 AM
caliFUCKia

tod evans
08-22-2018, 11:32 AM
Can't imagine the prison industrial complex taking this without a fight...

There are almost as many leeching off the jail/bond system as there are inmates..

Schifference
08-22-2018, 11:37 AM
Should be a non issue for law abiding citizens that have nothing to hide.

devil21
08-22-2018, 03:25 PM
How can you have a cash bail when you no longer have access to cash?? Think bigger picture friends. This stuff is all part of the 'plan'.

Swordsmyth
08-22-2018, 06:23 PM
This is the beginning of letting anyone out "On Bail", just watch over time as more and more offenses slide into the middle (where judges are allowed to make subjective decisions) and severe categories.

Article [VIII] (Amendment 8 - Further Guarantees in Criminal Cases)

Excessive bail shall not be required....

But no possibility of bail is just fine?
I know bail can be denied for crimes and criminals that are considered to be excessive flight risks but until now such cases were extremely rare.

oyarde
08-22-2018, 06:33 PM
This is the beginning of to letting anyone out "On Bail", just watch over time as more and more offenses slide into the middle (where judges are allowed to make subjective decisions) and severe categories.

Article [VIII] (Amendment 8 - Further Guarantees in Criminal Cases)Excessive bail shall not be required....

But no possibility of bail is just fine?
I know bail can be denied for crimes and criminals that are considered to be excessive flight risks but until now such cases were extremely rare.

Most bail set in the US is clearly very excessive . given that alone I guess I would have to support abolishing it and bond agents .

Swordsmyth
08-22-2018, 06:36 PM
Most bail set in the US is clearly very excessive . given that alone I guess I would have to support abolishing it and bond agents .
I agree but expanding the number of things you can't get bail for is not the solution, reducing bail or letting more people loose without bail but leaving what you can't get bailed out for alone are the right ways to go.

devil21
08-22-2018, 08:15 PM
https://thelawdictionary.org/release/


5. In admiralty actions, when a ship, cargo, or other property has been arrested, the owner may obtain its release by giving bail, or paying the value of the property into court. Upon this being done he obtains a release, which is a kind of writ under the seal of the court, addressed to the marshal, commanding him to release the property.

Think about what it means in context of the current system and what doing away with bail means for the bigger picture. All of these changes going on are planned and intentional, not merely reactions to the political climate.

r3volution 3.0
08-22-2018, 09:12 PM
Eliminating bail doesn't help the poor, it only hurts the non-poor.

Equality in misery, in keeping with the spirit of the age.

Anti Federalist
08-23-2018, 10:47 AM
Yet as lawmakers moved in recent weeks into the final stages of crafting the bill, giving judges more say over who can be held in jail before trial, some civil rights advocates that once led the charge for bail reform in California began lobbying against it. They say the new version of the bill replaces the problematic money bail system with an equally problematic system that may perpetuate racial biases and leave just as many people locked up before trial.

Look, you just have to parse this correctly:

Poor white people will go to jail until trial.

Poor colored people will be free until trial.

Swordsmyth
08-23-2018, 06:28 PM
Look, you just have to parse this correctly:

Poor white people will go to jail until trial.

Poor colored people will be free until trial.
You forgot that Middle class/ Lower Rich white people now go to jail until trial when they would not have before.

Anti Federalist
08-29-2018, 10:06 AM
Passed.

California Ends Cash Bail, Bail Industry

https://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/08/29/california-ends-cash-bail-bail-industry/

29 Aug 2018720
Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation Tuesday that makes California to be the first state to abolish cash bail for pre-trial incarcerations.
Brown was surrounded by Assembly Speaker Rendon (D-Los Angeles), Senate President pro Tempore Atkins (D-San Diego), California Supreme Court Chief Justice Tani Cantil-Sakauye, and others at the “SB 10: California Money Bail Reform Act” signing ceremony.

Brown described the new law, which takes effect on October 1, 2019 as establishing a pre-trial system that allows judges to determine a defendant’s custody status based on a non-monetary assessment of public safety risk and the probability of the defendant missing a court date. Brown added: “Today, California reforms its bail system so that rich and poor alike are treated fairly.”

Each of California’s 58 counties will establish local agencies that will set up a criteria for low, medium and high likelihood of an individual arrested on felony charges showing up for court hearings or being rearrested if released on their honor, according to the Sacramento Bee.

Low-risk evaluations would result in release with the least restrictive nonmonetary conditions; medium risk terms would be determined according to local standards. But high-risk evaluations — those having previously violated conditions of release; having been arrested for a violent felony, or sex crime; having a third DUI within 10 years; or being already on probation — would not be eligible for pre-trial release.

Brown honored the pledge he made last year to work with the Democrat-controlled legislature and Supreme Court Chief Justice Cantil-Sakauye to pass the reform before leaving office in January, according to the Los Angeles Times.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) launched its Campaign for Smart Justice last December to abolish money bail, which it considers a predatory system that allows people to sit in jail awaiting trial simply because they are too poor to afford the cost of their release.

The ACLU and California progressives pointed to bail injustices revealed in a New York City Criminal Justice Agency study that found non-felony conviction rates jumped from 50 to 92 percent for those jailed pre-trial, while the felony rate jumped from 59 to 85 percent.

But the ACLU announced on August 20 that it had changed its position and was opposed to the amended version of SB 10 with an overly broad presumption of preventative detention that “is not the model for pretrial justice and racial equity that the ACLU of California envisioned.”

The Times reported that Republican Senator Ted Gaines (R-El Dorado Hills) said that eliminating bail would put a big financial burden on California’s 58 counties, and expects that SB 10 will be overturned in constitutional challenges in the courts.

Chief Justice Cantil-Sakauye praised SB 10 as a “transformative day for our justice system” and thanked the “judges in my Pretrial Detention Reform Work Group to bring about a fair and just solution for all Californians.”

tod evans
08-29-2018, 10:15 AM
Low-risk evaluations would result in release with the least restrictive nonmonetary conditions; medium risk terms would be determined according to local standards. But high-risk evaluations — those having previously violated conditions of release; having been arrested for a violent felony, or sex crime; having a third DUI within 10 years; or being already on probation — would not be eligible for pre-trial release.


Looks like there'll be a dramatic increase of the number of folks who are considered a 'flight risk'..

Meaning the prison industrial complex will not only continue to grow they'll do so at an accelerated pace..