WordPress jumps on the censorship wagon.

[Origanalist]

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[DamianTV]

Doesnt Google own Wordpress? Googlag?

[timosman]

Doesnt Google own Wordpress? Googlag?

Wordpress is owned by these guys - https://automattic.com/ passionate about making the web a better place.

We don’t make software for free, we make it for freedom.

[Swordsmyth]

Wordpress is owned by these guys - https://automattic.com/ passionate about making the web a better place.

We don’t make software for free, we make it for freedom.

Freedom is slavery.

[Schifference]

Obviously there is a huge market for free speech. Some person or entity will fill the need.

[bunklocoempire]

WordPress scared of words.

[Marenco]

WordPress scared of words.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Mv3WS3D-o

[aGameOfThrones]

This censorship is getting out of control. I got reported on twitter for asking "the wrong question" so I'm QFD ban for now. Also got reported on Fedbook for wrongthink.

[Origanalist]

This censorship is getting out of control. I got reported on twitter for asking "the wrong question" so I'm QFD ban for now. Also got reported on Fedbook for wrongthink.

I posted a tweet here, came back a couple hours later and the guys account was suspended. It was a pretty awesome tweet. Snowflakes everywhere.

[Swordsmyth]

Manosphere Blog ‘Chateau Heartiste’ Banned by WordPress (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534472-Manosphere-Blog-‘Chateau-Heartiste’-Banned-by-WordPress)

[Swordsmyth]

A blog that chronicled the rise of Sharia in the West and the persecution of Christians worldwide was told abruptly by WordPress Monday that its content was no longer welcome on the platform.
In an automated message, Creeping Sharia was informed that it had violated WordPress’ terms of service, and that it was no longer welcome to use the platform. The message said:

Upon review of your WordPress.com (https://t.co/yVLcYDp35S) site we have determined that your content does not align with our Terms of Service or User Guidelines. As stated in our Terms, we may choose to stop providing service to an account at any time, for any reason, or none at all. As such, your site has been suspended and will not be returned.
Creeping Sharia’s apparent crime was reporting stories like Islamist terror attacks (https://twitter.com/creepingsharia/status/1127562882248519681) that killed Christians in Nigeria, or that Mohammad was the number one name (https://twitter.com/creepingsharia/status/1127196917035929600) for baby boys in Berlin, Germany in 2018.


More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/creeping-sharia-blog-banned-from-wordpress/

[Swordsmyth]

WordPress.com Took Down Jon Rappoport’s Blog (https://www.cryptogon.com/?p=54965)

[Brian4Liberty]

Obviously there is a huge market for free speech. Some person or entity will fill the need.

We can hope. But PayPal and the banks might refuse your business too.

[timosman]

We can hope. But PayPal and the banks might refuse your business too.

WTF is GOP doing? Sucking their thumbs in a corner? :confused:

[Brian4Liberty]

WTF is GOP doing? Sucking their thumbs in a corner? :confused:

The RINOs, neoconservatives, and swamp creatures (majority of the GOP) support the bans, so they are fine with it.

[AngryCanadian]

This censorship is getting out of control. I got reported on twitter for asking "the wrong question" so I'm QFD ban for now. Also got reported on Fedbook for wrongthink.

The censorship is worse now in 2019 good thing alternative sites are appearing. I had an account on twitter but got banned for legit spamming.
Even though i was testing out their social structure.

[Swordsmyth]

Jon Rappoport's site was suspended from WordPress without explanation or warning after 10 years.
Here’s an archived version of Rappoport’s blog: http://web.archive.org/web/20190407110231/https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/about/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20190407110231/https:/jonrappoport.wordpress.com/about/)
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[gaazn]

Times sure have changed a lot since Amazon once defended selling a pro-pedophile book.

[Swordsmyth]

Times sure have changed a lot since Amazon once defended selling a pro-pedophile book.

They would still do that and so would all the other leftist censors.

[r3volution 3.0]

Free speech doesn't mean that you have a right to wave a sign in someone else's living room (or website).

This whole anti-"censorship" narrative is ridiculous and obviously self-serving for the big names promoting it.

It is identical to reminds me of a leftist mob attacking a Walmart because they don't sell sufficiently "green" products.

[Swordsmyth]

Free speech doesn't mean that you have a right to wave a sign in someone else's living room (or website).

This whole anti-"censorship" narrative is ridiculous and obviously self-serving for the big names promoting it.

It is identical to reminds me of a leftist mob attacking a Walmart because they don't sell sufficiently "green" products.
Fedbook claims to be a publisher when it suits them:

Facebook Contradicts Its Senate Testimony in Court: Site IS a Publisher (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528795-Facebook-Contradicts-Its-Senate-Testimony-in-Court-Site-IS-a-Publisher)

If they admitted to being biased and admitted what they supported and opposed there would be an argument in their favor but since they and the others lie about everything they have no leg to stand on.

[r3volution 3.0]

Fedbook claims to be a publisher when it suits them

Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.

...which is to say that facebook does not exercise anywhere near the editorial control which might justify liability.

[timosman]

Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.

...which is to say that facebook does not exercise anywhere near the editorial control which might justify liability.

You mean they only delete but not modify the posts? :confused:

[Swordsmyth]

Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.

...which is to say that facebook does not exercise anywhere near the editorial control which might justify liability.
Yes they do.

And they certainly lie about offering a free speech "public square" platform.

[timosman]

Yes they do.

And they certainly lie about offering a free speech "public square" platform.

They don't even bother to put a fine print. False advertising. :D

[r3volution 3.0]

Yes they do.

They very obviously have nothing remotely like the (total) control of a traditional newspaper, book publisher, etc.


And they certainly lie about offering a free speech "public square" platform.

They should be under no obligation to offer a "public square."

[Swordsmyth]

They very obviously have nothing remotely like the (total) control of a traditional newspaper, book publisher, etc.
That isn't the standard in question and they have claimed to be a publisher in a legal case.




They should be under no obligation to offer a "public square."
Unless that is what they advertise........................................ That is what they advertise.

[r3volution 3.0]

That isn't the standard in question and they have claimed to be a publisher in a legal case.

I could care less about the existing law.

I'm interested in what is just.


Unless that is what they advertise........................................ That is what they advertise.

If you're claiming that they breached their contracts with their users, then the appropriate solution is a lawsuit, not regulation.

That said, I seem to recall having this same conversation on another occasion and finding that their TOS allows them to ban/etc who they like.

[Swordsmyth]

I could care less about the existing law.

I'm interested in what is just.

I too am interested in what is just and their current status is not just.



If you're claiming that they breached their contracts with their users, then the appropriate solution is a lawsuit, not regulation.

That said, I seem to recall having this same conversation on another occasion and finding that their TOS allows them to ban/etc who they like.
The TOS is no defense against their false advertising, they even declared themselves to be a free speech "public square" platform under oath.

[timosman]

https://en.wordpress.com/tos/


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[r3volution 3.0]

I too am interested in what is just and their current status is not just.

Tell me exactly what crime (not under current law, but under the law as it should be) you think they have committed.


The TOS is no defense against their false advertising, they even declared themselves to be a free speech "public square" platform under oath.

Fine, then organize a class action suit for breach of contract - no regulation, "trust-busting," etc required.

[UWDude]

Shut up. Go talk in a corner.
And don't argue with the prison guards.
They have rights too.

[Swordsmyth]

Tell me exactly what crime (not under current law, but under the law as it should be) you think they have committed.
Fraud.

[Swordsmyth]

https://en.wordpress.com/tos/


We do not have any control over those websites

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............................

[r3volution 3.0]

Fraud.

So, since fraud is already a crime, for which one can sue, we agree that no new regulation is necessary?

[Swordsmyth]

So, since fraud is already a crime, for which one can sue, we agree that no new regulation is necessary?
I don't know that I have called for any, prosecution might be a very good idea though.

[UWDude]

So, since fraud is already a crime, for which one can sue, we agree that no new regulation is necessary?

Naw. You forgot about vengeance.
This is clearly an orchestrated attack.
By multinational forces, and deep state orchestrators.
I know who my enemies are.
There is no way all Big Tech and Big Media and big Drug and big Corporation all happen to be in harmonious agreement about the political messages to be sent, and who to silence, without puppets controlling the strings.
And the messages sent are pure madness.

I'll not have this evil try to take over the world, while I search my soul about regulations and the rights of corporations.
Not only do I want them to be busted up. I want them jailed en masse, and the puppeteers executed after being exposed.
But I'll settle for a trust busting.

By the way, they might get away with it, but they are getting broke the fuck up, one way or the other. They have proven how bad idea it is to give multinational corporations power over your electorate. I'll not have it.

Now the way it is done may be distasteful.
But I have no problem in principle about whether it should be done.
Merely breaking them up, and not hunting them down and killing them all, would be merciful for what they are trying to do.

[r3volution 3.0]

I don't know that I have called for any, prosecution might be a very good idea though.

Then we have nothing to argue about.

If FB committed actual property rights violations, they ought to be sued.

It wouldn't bother me at all if they had to pay such large civil judgements that they went bankrupt, assuming the judgements were just.

[Firestarter]

In one of those great examples of freedom of speech Akamaitree was deleted by Wordpress.

akamaitree.wordpress.com is no longer available.
This site has been archived or suspended for a violation of our Terms of Service. https://akamaitree.wordpress.com/

I’ve found no information on why this interesting blogspot was deleted.
I’ve seen a Reddit thread that suggests that 4 months ago it was still online.

The following Akamaitree story connects some of the scandals that surround Trump.
At the very least it shows that the media isn’t against Donald Trump at all: http://archive.is/UOZCG

[Firestarter]

In 2019, also the blogspot Fitzinfo (of Fitzpatrick Informer) was deleted by Wordpress (it was still online in September) for “allegedly violating the terms of service”: http://web.archive.org/web/20190904185135/https://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20190904185135/https:/fitzinfo.wordpress.com/)

[Firestarter]

It looks like just about all of the good blogs get deleted by Wordpress.
Earlier this year, Dean Henderson’s hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com was (also) deleted…

Maybe this had something to do with the less flattering information he posted on President Donald and his handler British Crown agent Wilbur Ross.

In 2006, WL Ross & Co. became a subsidiary of Invesco, Ltd and Wilbur Ross was chosen as Invesco CEO.
Invesco was owned by the London-based Britannia Arrow, which also controlled Montagu Investment Management of prominent Zionist banker Samuel Montagu.
In 2007, Invesco moved its headquarters to Atlanta and began buying up investment funds including Morgan Stanley’s retail business, Van Kampen Investments, Guggenheim Investments, and Oppenheimer Funds.

In 2012, Invesco acquired NBNK and Wilbur became its Chairman. NBNK was founded in 2010 by City of London insiders including Lord Peter Levene. Levene chairs Starr Underwriting Agents Ltd. and sits on the boards of General Dynamics UK, China Construction Bank, Eurotunnel and Haymarket Media Group.
In 2012, NBNK vice-chair became Sir David Walker, former chairman at Reuters, Morgan Stanley and Barclays. Walker had previously been assistant UK Treasury Secretary, chair of the Securities & Investment Board and executive director for finance and industry at the Bank of England. Walker was deputy chairman at Lloyd’s Bank and in 1994 joined the Rockefeller Foundation-created Group of Thirty in Washington DC.

Walker was also on the Board at the UK IP Institute (the UK equivalent of the US Patent Office).
A fellow UK IP Institute board member was Sir Robin B. Nicholson who founded SERCO with Sir Geoffrey E. Pattie.

NBNK funnelled money from Goldman Sachs and the British nobility into the Facebook IPO, which went public in May 2012: http://web.archive.org/web/20200103190526/https://hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/2019/10/15/crown-agent-wilbur-ross/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20200103190526/https:/hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/2019/10/15/crown-agent-wilbur-ross/)