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Anti Federalist
07-24-2018, 10:41 AM
More and More of What We Do Depends on Government Permission

https://reason.com/archives/2018/07/24/permitted-lives

The granting or withholding of that approval is a powerful lever over our lives.
J.D. Tuccille | July 24, 2018

Do you have permit for that? If you want to keep that permit, you'd better do as you're told.

Increasingly, that's the theme of modern America. More and more of what we do is dependent on permission from the government. That permission, unsurprisingly, is contingent on keeping government officials happy. Rub those officials the wrong way and they'll strip you of permission to travel the roads, leave the country, or even make a living.

That's not a recipe for a free country.

In February of this year, the IRS began sending the U.S. State Department lists of Americans who have a seriously delinquent tax debt, so that these individuals can be denied the right to travel overseas.

"[T]his only applies to a seriously delinquent tax debt," cautions tax attorney Robert W. Wood, "more than $50,000. Even so, that $50,000 includes penalties and interest. A $20,000 tax debt can grow to $50,000 including penalties and interest."

Passport revocation isn't contingent on criminal conviction, or suspicion of flight. Your travel documents can be yanked just for the outstanding debt—even if you're already outside the country.

"If you're already overseas, the State Department may, but is not required to, provide a passport permitting your return home," writes former federal prosecutor Justin Gelfand. "And a 1952 statute makes it a crime for a U.S. citizen to enter or exit the country without a valid passport."

That law requiring a passport to cross the border in either direction, combined with the threat to strip passports from alleged tax debtors, effectively makes the country one big debtors' prison.

What connection is there between taxes and the right to travel? None. Members of Congress and other government officials just thought they could coerce more people into meeting IRS demands if they made the right to travel (not so much a "right" any more) dependent on keeping the taxman happy.

Not that the right to travel within the borders remains free of government demands. If you take a look at the website for your state's Department of Motor Vehicles, chances are you'll find language similar to: "Once the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) is notified by the Attorney General of Texas, or a Texas Court ordering a revocation, DPS will revoke a Texas resident's driving privilege for failure to pay child support."

Texas didn't impose that requirement on its own—it was required to do so by the federal government. Under the provisions of the welfare reform law passed in 1996, "States must adopt laws that allow them to suspend driver's, professional, occupational, and recreational licenses of individuals who owe overdue support," according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Which means that not just travel but also the right to hold a job and make a living is at issue in a country that now requires licenses of roughly one-quarter of all workers.

All 50 states have complied with that federal requirement, the National Conference of State Legislatures reports, although the triggers for revocation vary. Some states allow for temporary licenses—or allow debtors to travel to and from work so they can at least earn the money to pay the outstanding debt. But that's up to the state.

Also up to states is the process for suspension, which is administrative with little in the way of due process.

"Arizona law has given the [Department of Child Support Services, or DCSS] authority to administratively suspend a professional or occupational license (such as a contractor's license) without going to court," boasts the state's Division of Child Support Services. "The DCSS may request the court to suspend or restrict a driver's license or recreational license."

While the details vary, most states allow for a window of time, from a couple of weeks to a few months, to pay up or appeal the bureaucratic gut-punch. Good luck with that appeal.

What connection is there between licenses to drive the roads and work in your field and child support obligations? Again, none. They're just a handy lever to extract compliance from the population without too much muss and fuss. They're such a handy lever, in fact, that government officials have succumbed to the temptation to extend their use.

"[I]n 19 states, government agencies can seize state-issued professional licenses from residents who default on their educational debts," The New York Times reported last fall. "Another state, South Dakota, suspends driver's licenses, making it nearly impossible for people to get to work."

As with revoking passports to extract tax payments and denying licenses to collect child support, stripping licenses from people who fall behind on student loans involves administrative procedures with limited due process. It also, finally, may be a bit much for even some politicians.

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CaptUSA
07-24-2018, 11:11 AM
Not what I do!

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I follow the Harry Browne model as much as I can - which is quite a lot. I figure one day I'll get pulled over and they'll catch up with me, but it's too much fun living free now. I find most Americans pick and choose which rules they follow - I just choose to follow very few of them.

Madison320
07-24-2018, 12:22 PM
In February of this year, the IRS began sending the U.S. State Department lists of Americans who have a seriously delinquent tax debt, so that these individuals can be denied the right to travel overseas.


Luckily we're building a wall to catch those cheats!

shakey1
07-24-2018, 01:51 PM
Kinda 180 degrees from the way it should be, eh?

Origanalist
07-24-2018, 02:44 PM
At least we're not anarchists.

Anti Globalist
07-24-2018, 03:38 PM
Pretty soon we won't be able to do anything without government permission.

DamianTV
07-24-2018, 04:19 PM
Big question should be WHY? How does this benefit them?

So let me take a crack at answering that. First, it Prohibits Competition. Want to open your own business? Well your business is gonna compete with someone elses business. So preventing competition allows Monopolistic Business Practices, where prices are not influenced by Free Market. Next, it maintains Debt Slavery. You owe someone else, you better both produce and suffer for the benefit of your Slave Owner. This is how Slavery works in the 21st Century. Permission prevents Revolution. At least in the eyes of the Status Quo. How can you fight back if you cant speak in private (privacy) and have enough money to own a gun? End result is that of the choices you are allowed to make, you are only given the Illusion of Choice. The choice is to make yourself a Debt Slave to someone else, own your own Debt Slaves, or if you choose to not participate you will be treated as Persona Non Grata (non person) and shunned from society, promoting the Hygienic Function of schools by excluding you from the reproduction genepool.

Human Farming.

No one said Human Farming was easy, but it can be done by keeping the most intelligent species on the planet as stupid as possible. Have you ever seen a herd of cows debate philosophy and revolt? Only in Animal Farm... Ever see a cow try to do something that it was not granted specific permissions that benefited the farmer? Nope. Everything is prohibited except activities that can produce profit. And that is exactly what is happening to Humanity. Human farming.

timosman
07-24-2018, 04:24 PM
Big question should be WHY? How does this benefit them?

So let me take a crack at answering that. First, it Prohibits Competition. Want to open your own business? Well your business is gonna compete with someone elses business. So preventing competition allows Monopolistic Business Practices, where prices are not influenced by Free Market. Next, it maintains Debt Slavery. You owe someone else, you better both produce and suffer for the benefit of your Slave Owner. This is how Slavery works in the 21st Century. Permission prevents Revolution. At least in the eyes of the Status Quo. How can you fight back if you cant speak in private (privacy) and have enough money to own a gun? End result is that of the choices you are allowed to make, you are only given the Illusion of Choice. The choice is to make yourself a Debt Slave to someone else, own your own Debt Slaves, or if you choose to not participate you will be treated as Persona Non Grata (non person) and shunned from society, promoting the Hygienic Function of schools by excluding you from the reproduction genepool.

Human Farming.

No one said Human Farming was easy, but it can be done by keeping the most intelligent species on the planet as stupid as possible. Have you ever seen a herd of cows debate philosophy and revolt? Only in Animal Farm... Ever see a cow try to do something that it was not granted specific permissions that benefited the farmer? Nope. Everything is prohibited except activities that can produce profit. And that is exactly what is happening to Humanity. Human farming.

What's the end product of human farming?:confused:

CCTelander
07-24-2018, 04:25 PM
At least we're not anarchists.


I know, right? Imagine the nerve of those damned anarchists/voluntaryists, wanting to interact with others on a purely voluntary basis without violently dominating other people in order to force their (the anarchists/voluntaryists') preferences upon those other people. And even worse, they actually have the temerity, the unmitigated gall to demand that others afford them the same consideration. What dangerous radicals!

pcosmar
07-24-2018, 04:28 PM
What's the end product of human farming?:confused:

Fertilizer.

CCTelander
07-24-2018, 04:28 PM
Pretty soon we won't be able to do anything without government permission.


Do you have a permit to post such seditious sentiments, comrade?

timosman
07-24-2018, 07:25 PM
Fertilizer.

For what? :confused:

heavenlyboy34
07-24-2018, 07:32 PM
Big Brother-keeping you safe from yourself-for extortionist fees. Because muh gov'ment!

pcosmar
07-24-2018, 08:08 PM
For what? :confused:

for $hit sake.

Aratus
07-24-2018, 08:09 PM
Be pragmatic. Let's carefully ask WHICH regs can work, and do the job,
An' which ones are useless if not redundant or worse. No regs is anarchy.

DamianTV
07-24-2018, 08:14 PM
What's the end product of human farming?:confused:

Soylent Green!?