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phill4paul
07-23-2018, 06:51 AM
The left doesn't want to take your guns. All they want are sensible firearm laws to stop mass shootings. If we only required a license and registration of all firearms like Canada these tragedies wouldn't happen. :rolleyes:


Gunfire rang out along a busy Toronto street Sunday night leaving three people dead, including the 29-year-old man alleged to have been the shooter.

Toronto police say a total of 14 people were shot by a man with a handgun. According to Ontario’s Special Investigations Unit, two people were killed by a man who “fired shots at groups of people several times” while walking along Danforth Avenue.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/toronto-shooting-deadly-rampage-in-greektown-1.4023591

Schifference
07-23-2018, 06:58 AM
They need stricter laws on assault rifles and large capacity magazines!

shakey1
07-23-2018, 07:16 AM
Ban shooter victims.

VIDEODROME
07-23-2018, 08:40 AM
So could this be taken as saying Canada didn't go far enough? :confused:

They foolishly settled for a compromise instead of going for a full ban?

Anti Federalist
07-23-2018, 11:30 AM
So could this be taken as saying Canada didn't go far enough? :confused:

They foolishly settled for a compromise instead of going for a full ban?

I'm quite sure the statists in Canada will take it that way.

Look for more bans and restrictions on firearms.

Maybe they will get around to banning them entirely, and then be crime free, like Mexico.

Swordsmyth
07-23-2018, 02:11 PM
Ban men!

Anti Federalist
07-23-2018, 04:46 PM
Ban men!

They are working on it.

'Guns don't kill people; men and boys kill people,' experts say (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/10/10/men-special-risk-guns-they-love/734961001/)

phill4paul
07-23-2018, 04:54 PM
They are working on it.

'Guns don't kill people; men and boys kill people,' experts say (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/10/10/men-special-risk-guns-they-love/734961001/)

Wow, that's some cherry picked information. Let's see...


according to the group Mayors Against Illegal Guns.


according to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence.


according to the gun control advocacy group Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

yeah, no.

Swordsmyth
07-23-2018, 05:37 PM
Ontario police has identified the man responsible for a shooting rampage in Toronto’s Greektown as Faisal Hussain. The Special Investigations Unit says Hussain is a 29-year-old from Toronto, the National Post reported (https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/canada-news-pmn/newsalert-toronto-shooting-gunman-identified-by-authorities-as-faisal-hussain).
The provincial police watchdog released Hussain’s identity in a statement after speaking with a member of his family.
“Due to the exceptional circumstances of this tragic incident and the public interest in knowing the man’s identity, the SIU is identifying the man as Faisal Hussain of Toronto,” the statement read.


The Hussain family released a statement expressing their condolences to the families “who are now suffering on account of our son’s horrific actions.”
“We are utterly devastated by the incomprehensible news that our son was responsible for the senseless violence and loss of life that took place on the Danforth,” they said
They added that Hussain had “severe mental health challenges” and was struggling with psychosis and depression his entire life.
“Medications and therapy were unable to treat him. While we did our best to seek help for him throughout his life of struggle and pain, we could never imagine that this would be his devastating and destructive end,” they said.

.@torontopolice (https://twitter.com/TorontoPolice?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) SIU identifies suspected shooter in Danforth incident as Faisal Hussain & his family releases a statement about their deceased son, who they say had a history of mental illness #pnpcbc (https://twitter.com/hashtag/pnpcbc?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) pic.twitter.com/I6GaSHUeGS (https://t.co/I6GaSHUeGS)
— Power & Politics (@PnPCBC) July 23, 2018 (https://twitter.com/PnPCBC/status/1021514494755856386?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) Earlier, the Toronto police also said that it was seeking a motive behind the shooter's actions after two young women, ages 10 and 18, were killed and 13 other people were wounded by a gunman on a busy, restaurant-filled street. The suspect was later found dead, authorities said.
“We do not know why this happened,” Toronto Police Chief Mark Saunders told reporters on Monday, adding that he would not speculate about the gunman’s motive. “It’s way too early to rule out anything.”

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-23/toronto-mass-shooter-identified-faisal-hussain

phill4paul
07-23-2018, 05:45 PM
They added that Hussain had “severe mental health challenges” and was struggling with psychosis and depression his entire life.
“Medications and therapy were unable to treat him. While we did our best to seek help for him throughout his life of struggle and pain, we could never imagine that this would be his devastating and destructive end,” they said.
[INDENT] .@torontopolice (https://twitter.com/TorontoPolice?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) SIU identifies suspected shooter in Danforth incident as Faisal Hussain & his family releases a statement about their deceased son, who they say had a history of mental illness

Canada needs more laws.

Swordsmyth
07-23-2018, 05:49 PM
Canada needs more laws.

They should make it illegal to point guns at people, if you can't point them at people you won't be able to shoot people.

phill4paul
07-23-2018, 05:50 PM
They should make it illegal to point guns at people, if you can't point them at people you won't be able to shoot people.

That's the best law ever. The law to end all laws. The mother of the law to end all laws.

phill4paul
07-27-2018, 05:57 AM
So could this be taken as saying Canada didn't go far enough? :confused:

They foolishly settled for a compromise instead of going for a full ban?


I'm quite sure the statists in Canada will take it that way.

Look for more bans and restrictions on firearms.

Maybe they will get around to banning them entirely, and then be crime free, like Mexico.

It has to be done in increments. First they say "We don't want to take away your guns. We just want "sensible" laws regarding gun ownership." Then, when, inevitably, a shooting takes place even after all the "sensible" laws are passed, they go for the kill. Case in point....


Toronto wants to ban the sale of handguns and ammunition after mass shooting

Toronto wants to ban the sales of handguns and ammunition following a deadly mass shooting in its Greektown neighborhood which left two people and the gunman dead and 13 people wounded on Sunday .

On Tuesday, the city council took several steps to reduce gun violence within the city, including voting 41-4 in favor of a motion urging the federal government to ban the sale of handguns and ammunition in Toronto.

https://www.businessinsider.com/toronto-votes-to-ban-handgun-and-ammunition-sales-after-mass-shooting-2018-7

Anti Federalist
07-27-2018, 09:43 AM
It has to be done in increments. First they say "We don't want to take away your guns. We just want "sensible" laws regarding gun ownership." Then, when, inevitably, a shooting takes place even after all the "sensible" laws are passed, they go for the kill.

Quite literally.

Private ownership of guns and ammo in Mexico is very heavily restricted when not out right banned.

Mexico's homicide rate is over three times that of the United States. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate)

Canada will soon enjoy the same, between banning the means to defend yourself, and the importation of so much diversity.

Swordsmyth
08-14-2018, 07:48 PM
Hussain’s parents were Canadian citizens from Pakistan, so he himself was not actually a migrant. He was born in Canada. There are some clues that he was, however, an extremist., but we’ll never know for sure since he was reported to have killed himself during an exchange of gunfire with the police. ISIS quickly took credit (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/07/25/isis-claims-toronto-shooting-as-probe-reportedly-finds-suspect-visited-terror-websites-lived-in-middle-east.html) for the attack. (It’s important to note that ISIS often takes credit for attacks (https://taskandpurpose.com/isis-las-vegas-mass-shootings-shouldnt-always-believe/) in which they are not necessarily involved.) But in this case, the initial evidence leaned toward Hussain actually being a terrorist, despite a statement to the contrary from the public safety minister.

“At this stage, based on the state of the investigation, which is led by the Toronto police service, there is no connection between that individual and national security,” Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale said.
But a law enforcement source told CBS News that Faisal Hussain (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/faisal-hussain-canadian-officials-identify-toronto-mass-shooting-suspect-greektown-2018-07-23/) visited Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS (https://www.cbsnews.com/isis/)) websites and may have expressed support for the terrorist group. They were looking into whether Hussain may have lived at one time in Afghanistan and possibly Pakistan,the source said. There is no indication that Hussain was directed by ISIS to carry out the attack. (source (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/faisal-hussain-toronto-shooting-rampage-new-details-emerge-about-gunman-2018-07-24/))
There were other ties, too. His brother Fahad overdosed last year while awaiting a trial for dealing crack. The brothers were friends with Maisum Ansari, who was charged with the possession of 53 kilograms of carfentanil, a synthetic drug that is 100 times stronger than fentanyl. This was the largest seizure of carfentanil in Canadian history.

During the investigation into Ansari’s drug operations, police discovered a weapons cache in the basement of his rented-out house. This is possibly an example of the intersection of the drug trade and terrorism (http://acdemocracy.org/narco-terrorism/). Furthermore, carfentanil, specifically, has been of concern to the US government as a drug that also could be used as a chemical weapon (http://apnews.com/3e3c2b624edc46f8a57e78d236091798/chemical-weapon-sale-chinas-unregulated-narcotic). (source (https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/12831/toronto-shooting-cover-up))
The story quickly changed as soon as there was a whiff of ties to Islamic terror. A statement was released, ostensibly by the Hussain family, that talked of serious mental health issues. The media jumped on this immediately (https://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/toronto-shooter-faisal-hussain-had-mental-health-problems-1.4759055) as the truth. But as it turns out, that statement was not written by Hussain’s mom and dad.

It emerged, however, that the so-called Hussain “family statement” had not been written by the murderer’s parents at all, but rather by Mohammed Hashim (https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/furey-meet-the-spin-doctor-behind-the-hussain-family-statement), a professional activist who served as chairman (https://web.archive.org/web/20180811211436/https://www.nccm.ca/nccm-welcomes-new-redress-office-for-passenger-protect/) of the “Stronger Together” program of the National Council of Canadian Muslims (NCCM, formerly the Council of American Islamic Relations Canada or CAIR CAN). Its American parent organization, as stated in its own documents (http://pointdebasculecanada.ca/complaint-sheema-khan-la-presse-1996-montreal-hamas-linked-washington-cair/), is CAIR, designated as a terrorist entity (https://www.thenational.ae/uae/government/list-of-groups-designated-terrorist-organisations-by-the-uae-1.270037) by the United Arab Emirates. (source (https://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/toronto-shooter-faisal-hussain-had-mental-health-problems-1.4759055))
An investigation by the National Post also shed some doubt on the claims of mental health issues.

The National Post has learned that Toronto Police files show little evidence of the typical history of a person with a florid mental illness such as “psychosis,” as his family said.
A senior police source, while cautioning that this doesn’t mean Hussain wasn’t mentally ill, said that often with such people, there are frequent encounters with police — calls from the family for help, suicide attempts or committals to hospital under the Mental Health Act.
With Hussain, the source said, “we have very little of that.”
The third party, who had distributed the family’s statement, didn’t reply to a Post email Tuesday, asking if he had any light to shed on the apparent contradiction between the statement and police files. (source (https://nationalpost.com/opinion/christie-blatchford-who-is-faisal-hussain-the-man-behind-the-toronto-mass-shooting-its-complicated))


More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-14/does-politically-correct-western-media-keep-covering-violent-attacks-extremists