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timosman
07-21-2018, 06:12 PM
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/what-barack-obama-says-hes-first-american-president-from-kenya-in-foreign-speech/


Jul 21, 2018

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Screen-Shot-2018-07-21-at-4.20.54-PM-1200x630.png

Former President Barack H. Obama had a slip of the tongue during a speech in Kogelo, Kenya today.

“Now, three years ago, I visited Kenya as the first sitting American President to come from Kenya,” he said.

There was a pause and some awkward laughter from the crowd after he made his remark at the 5:49 mark of the 15-minute speech.

WATCH:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L36sGc4Id2I





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Anti Globalist
07-21-2018, 06:17 PM
I always knew Obama was from Kenya.

oyarde
07-21-2018, 06:21 PM
No reason to doubt it. In before Jules denies it for Obama.

Swordsmyth
07-21-2018, 06:27 PM
Truth will out.
He is also a muslim by his own admission.

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When we’re done he’ll claim Kenyan citizenship as a way to escape.
Q

I can't wait.

enhanced_deficit
07-21-2018, 06:27 PM
Widely respected conservative rock star Ted Cruz' dad had sort of broke this story few years back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiNDfAYhNuY

Danke
07-21-2018, 07:25 PM
DREAMS FROM MY REAL FATHER

https://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/dreams_from_my_real_father

timosman
07-22-2018, 09:23 AM
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Anti Federalist
07-22-2018, 09:33 AM
Fuck's sake, at least he finally admitted it.

juleswin
07-22-2018, 09:45 AM
$#@!'s sake, at least he finally admitted it.

Admitted what?

Anti Federalist
07-22-2018, 09:46 AM
Admitted what?

That he was Kenyan.

juleswin
07-22-2018, 09:53 AM
That he was Kenyan.

His dad is Kenyan, so regardless of where he is born, he would always be Kenyan. My cousins who were born in this country are Nigerians as well as being Americans. I thought this was old news.

Alert me when he admits he was born in Kenya. Now that would be a revelation, not this rubbish.

Anti Federalist
07-22-2018, 09:56 AM
His dad is Kenyan, so regardless of where he is born, he would always be Kenyan. My cousins who were born in this country are Nigerians as well as being Americans. I thought this was old news.

Alert me when he admits he was born in Kenya. Now that would be a revelation, not this rubbish.

You just made the case for shutting down all immigration.

Danke
07-22-2018, 09:57 AM
His dad is Kenyan, so regardless of where he is born, he would always be Kenyan. My cousins who were born in this country are Nigerians as well as being Americans. I thought this was old news.

Alert me when he admits he was born in Kenya. Now that would be a revelation, not this rubbish.

So if I say I'm from Norway, it means that is actually where my father is from?

timosman
07-22-2018, 09:57 AM
His dad is Kenyan, so regardless of where he is born, he would always be Kenyan. My cousins who were born in this country are Nigerians as well as being Americans. I thought this was old news.

Alert me when he admits he was born in Kenya. Now that would be a revelation, not this rubbish.

Him being born in Kenya wouldn't change a thing. What is this rubbish? :confused:

juleswin
07-22-2018, 10:13 AM
You just made the case for shutting down all immigration.

You just don't get it.

juleswin
07-22-2018, 10:18 AM
So if I say I'm from Norway, it means that is actually where my father is from?

I could mean that, that is why you have to look at the background of the person saying it. For example, if my American born kid says hes from Nigeria, that means that his dad is from Nigeria. When u are a first/second generation American, there is always going to be some connection with your homeland. Maybe your name, you still communicate with your relatives back home, still enjoy some ethnic food etc etc. That is why some still say "they are from ......"

juleswin
07-22-2018, 10:19 AM
Him being born in Kenya wouldn't change a thing. What is this rubbish? :confused:

I really don't know how to reply to this. That is not what I said.

navy-vet
07-22-2018, 10:58 AM
So if I say I'm from Norway, it means that is actually where my father is from?

In the World of Che it does, apparently.

Swordsmyth
07-22-2018, 11:27 AM
His dad is Kenyan, so regardless of where he is born, he would always be Kenyan. My cousins who were born in this country are Nigerians as well as being Americans. I thought this was old news.

Alert me when he admits he was born in Kenya. Now that would be a revelation, not this rubbish.

To be precise he said he was "from Kenya", that doesn't mean his father was Kenyan so somehow in some America hating way he counts himself as a Kenyan, it means he was born there.

juleswin
07-22-2018, 11:37 AM
To be precise he said he was "from Kenya", that doesn't mean his father was Kenyan so somehow in some America hating way he counts himself as a Kenyan, it means he was born there.

"from Kenya" doesn't mean what u think it means. It just means that he has a familial relationship to Kenya. People with mixed heritage or adopted homeland can count 2 or more places as where they are "from". It doesn't mean that he stopped being an American when he says that.

When he says that he is born in Kenya, then I will join in with the outrage community. Until then, he has yet to say anything worth getting riled up about his nationality.

Swordsmyth
07-22-2018, 11:43 AM
"from Kenya" doesn't mean what u think it means. It just means that he has a familial relationship to Kenya. People with mixed heritage or adopted homeland can count 2 or more places as where they are "from". It doesn't mean that he stopped being an American when he says that.

When he says that he is born in Kenya, then I will join in with the outrage community. Until then, he has yet to say anything worth getting riled up about his nationality.

"From" has a specific meaning, it means you were physically someplace before coming here.
He didn't say he was of Kenyan ancestry or had a Kenyan heritage, he said he was from Kenya.

pcosmar
07-22-2018, 11:52 AM
You just don't get it.

Pretty sure,,(following the thread) that you don't "Get it".

pcosmar
07-22-2018, 11:54 AM
doesn't mean what u think it means.

Words..

They have meanings..

"from Kenya" means not allowed to be president.

timosman
07-22-2018, 12:04 PM
I really don't know how to reply to this. That is not what I said.

:rolleyes:

juleswin
07-22-2018, 12:18 PM
Words..

They have meanings..

"from Kenya" means not allowed to be president.

It a vague use of the word. From could also mean his lineage is from Kenya which we all know. So after him saying he was born in Hawaii for so many years and occasionally joking about him being born in Kenya. He now says that he is "from Kenya" and the meaning you took out of it is "he was born in Kenya"?

English is a hard language but I didn't think it was this difficult.

timosman
07-22-2018, 12:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp3TQf2xDc8

TheCount
07-22-2018, 12:30 PM
Wow. This will definitely keep him from getting elected in 2008.

Swordsmyth
07-22-2018, 12:35 PM
Wow. This will definitely keep him from getting elected in 2008.
Eventually the truth may be proven and then his SCOTUS picks will be invalidated along with any decisions they were the deciding factor in, any laws he signed will also be up for invalidation as well.

timosman
07-22-2018, 12:38 PM
Eventually the truth may be proven and then his SCOTUS picks will be invalidated along with any decisions they were the deciding factor in, any laws he signed will also be up for invalidation as well.

Do we have an extradition treaty with Kenya?:confused:

Swordsmyth
07-22-2018, 12:48 PM
Do we have an extradition treaty with Kenya?:confused:

I don't know but if Q is right we must not:

When we’re done he’ll claim Kenyan citizenship as a way to escape.
Q

euphemia
07-22-2018, 12:54 PM
I was born in Japan to two parents who were born in the US. I came to the Us on my mother’s US passport and have lived here since I was 8 weeks old. My citizenship has never been questioned.

timosman
07-22-2018, 12:56 PM
I don't know but if Q is right we must not:

When we’re done he’ll claim Kenyan citizenship as a way to escape.
Q

Wouldn't be the first time something like this has happened.


Like Alberto Fujimori, a Peruvian president with Japanese citizenship?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1065667.stm

timosman
07-22-2018, 12:58 PM
I was born in Japan to two parents who were born in the US. I came to the Us on my mother’s US passport and have lived here since I was 8 weeks old. My citizenship has never been questioned.

Are you implying there is a similarity between your case and Obama's? :confused:

Swordsmyth
07-22-2018, 12:59 PM
I was born in Japan to two parents who were born in the US. I came to the Us on my mother’s US passport and have lived here since I was 8 weeks old. My citizenship has never been questioned.
Some would question whether your citizenship was "Natural Born", I'm not sure because both your parents were citizens, O'Bummer only had one citizen parent so if he was born in Kenya he isn't a "Natural Born" citizen and therefore was not qualified to be POTUS.

Zippyjuan
07-22-2018, 01:11 PM
Some would question whether your citizenship was "Natural Born", I'm not sure because both your parents were citizens, O'Bummer only had one citizen parent so if he was born in Kenya he isn't a "Natural Born" citizen and therefore was not qualified to be POTUS.

Does this mean he won't be able to run for President in 2020?

Ender
07-22-2018, 01:12 PM
I was born in Japan to two parents who were born in the US. I came to the Us on my mother’s US passport and have lived here since I was 8 weeks old. My citizenship has never been questioned.

Exactly.

There's never been any real proof that Obama is not a legal citizen or that he is Muslim.

Trump lied to Europeans and said his father was born in Germany but that's seems to be OK with some.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/17/trump-keeps-saying-his-father-was-born-in-germany-he-wasnt

Swordsmyth
07-22-2018, 01:14 PM
Does this mean he won't be able to run for President in 2020?


Eventually the truth may be proven and then his SCOTUS picks will be invalidated along with any decisions they were the deciding factor in, any laws he signed will also be up for invalidation as well.

Can't you think of anything original to say?
Copying The Vampire doesn't look good.

timosman
07-22-2018, 01:14 PM
Does this mean he won't be able to run for President in 2020?

We will need to wait for SCOTUS decision on this.:brokenheart:

Swordsmyth
07-22-2018, 01:17 PM
Exactly.

There's never been any real proof that Obama is not a legal citizen or that he is Muslim.

Trump lied to Europeans and said his father was born in Germany but that's seems to be OK with some.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/17/trump-keeps-saying-his-father-was-born-in-germany-he-wasnt
There is plenty of evidence for both and he has now admitted to both.
Trump's father is irrelevant because Trump was born here.

Zippyjuan
07-22-2018, 01:23 PM
There is plenty of evidence for both and he has now admitted to both.
Trump's father is irrelevant because Trump was born here.

What is said in one speech is not evidence, the birth certificate is and his was verified as showing he was born in Hawaii. Birtherism is old news and fake news. Even Trump moved on.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther-united-states/index.html


Trump finally admits it: 'President Barack Obama was born in the United States'

Donald Trump finally admitted Friday that "President Barack Obama was born in the United States," reversing himself on the issue that propelled him into national politics five years ago.

Trump sought to end his longstanding attempt to discredit the nation's first African-American president with just a few sentences tacked on at the end as he unveiled his new hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington.

Swordsmyth
07-22-2018, 01:25 PM
What is said in one speech is not evidence, the birth certificate is and his was verified as showing he was born in Hawaii. Birtherism is old news and fake news. Even Trump moved on.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther-united-states/index.html

The "Birth Certificate" is a forgery and Trump says a lot of things.

timosman
07-22-2018, 01:30 PM
The "Birth Certificate" is a forgery and Trump says a lot of things.



https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding/



What’s not plausible is that the government spent all this time manufacturing Obama’s birth certificate only to commit the laughably rookie mistake of exporting the layers from Photoshop, or whatever photo editing software they are meant to have used. It’s likely that whoever scanned the birth certificate in Hawaii forgot to turn off the OCR setting on the scanner. Let’s leave it at that.

:seenoevil::hearnoevil::speaknoevil:

TheCount
07-22-2018, 01:31 PM
Eventually the truth may be proven and then his SCOTUS picks will be invalidated along with any decisions they were the deciding factor in, any laws he signed will also be up for invalidation as well.

Nope

Zippyjuan
07-22-2018, 01:32 PM
The "Birth Certificate" is a forgery and Trump says a lot of things.

http://www.freeduh.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/obama_birth_certificate.jpg

TheCount
07-22-2018, 01:34 PM
The "Birth Certificate" is a forgery and Trump says a lot of things.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k8craCGpgs

pcosmar
07-22-2018, 02:06 PM
I was born in Japan to two parents who were born in the US. I came to the Us on my mother’s US passport and have lived here since I was 8 weeks old. My citizenship has never been questioned.
Yes, but His was,, and a Fake Birth Certificate was the best he could do..

Also a requirement for the job..

dude58677
07-22-2018, 02:07 PM
Nope

Why wouldnt Donald Trump jump on this?

Influenza
07-22-2018, 02:09 PM
Exactly.

There's never been any real proof that Obama is not a legal citizen or that he is Muslim.

Trump lied to Europeans and said his father was born in Germany but that's seems to be OK with some.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/17/trump-keeps-saying-his-father-was-born-in-germany-he-wasnt
You're giving trump way too much credit. Do you think he actually knows where his father was born?

fedupinmo
07-22-2018, 02:18 PM
Some would question whether your citizenship was "Natural Born", I'm not sure because both your parents were citizens, O'Bummer only had one citizen parent so if he was born in Kenya he isn't a "Natural Born" citizen and therefore was not qualified to be POTUS.

ANY foreign born individual that is a US citizen becomes a US citizen by naturalization statute, regardless of parentage and is therefore a naturalized citizen. Rogers v. Bellei (1971)
However, if Obama was proven to be Kenyan born, he wouldn't even be a citizen, since his US citizen vaginal source was 18 at the time of his birth, and the statute in place at the time required the US citizen parent to be resident in the US for 5 years past their 14th birthday. ;)

Zippyjuan
07-22-2018, 02:24 PM
ANY foreign born individual that is a US citizen becomes a US citizen by naturalization statute, regardless of parentage and is therefore a naturalized citizen. Rogers v. Bellei (1971)
However, if Obama was proven to be Kenyan born, he wouldn't even be a citizen, since his US citizen vaginal source was 18 at the time of his birth, and the statute in place at the time required the US citizen parent to be resident in the US for 5 years past their 14th birthday. ;)

Odd that after years of looking nobody has found any Kenyan birth certificate.

fedupinmo
07-22-2018, 02:28 PM
Odd that after years of looking nobody has found any Kenyan birth certificate.

I'm sure bush dwelling Africans are experts at keeping written records of major events like the spawning of your Chocolate Jesus.

Zippyjuan
07-22-2018, 02:32 PM
I'm sure bush dwelling Africans are experts at keeping written records of major events like the spawning of your Chocolate Jesus.

Yeah- everybody in Africa lives in the bushes. Nairobi:

https://r-fa.bstatic.com/xdata/images/xphoto/1920x810/27995931.jpg?k=0756bcb89b64dbb9d51675d1ae80ec76711 4fc6b383da472d5ddf48cc09d4f65&o=

fedupinmo
07-22-2018, 02:50 PM
Yeah- everybody in Africa lives in the bushes. Nairobi:



And yet in Obammy's ancestral home, the local witch doctor lives in this fine obstetric clinic...

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/05/article-2228263-15DC41A4000005DC-646_634x396.jpg

I'm not seeing the file cabinet with all the listed births...

Zippyjuan
07-22-2018, 02:56 PM
And yet in Obammy's ancestral home, the local witch doctor lives in this fine obstetric clinic...

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/05/article-2228263-15DC41A4000005DC-646_634x396.jpg

I'm not seeing the file cabinet with all the listed births...

Image is of a witch doctor in Mombasa. Not where Obama's family is from. http://www.atwistedspoke.com/froomes-african-cleared/

Did you just google "witch doctor Kenya"?

Some birthers claim Obama was born in Nairobi. But his birth certificate says Honolulu.

fedupinmo
07-22-2018, 03:02 PM
Image is of a witch doctor in Mombasa. Not where Obama's family is from. http://www.atwistedspoke.com/froomes-african-cleared/
Some birthers claim Obama was born in Nairobi. But his birth certificate says Honolulu.

https://softkenya.com/kenya/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Nyangoma-Kogelo-Village.jpg

Dr.3D
07-22-2018, 03:20 PM
Odd that after years of looking nobody has found any Kenyan birth certificate.
https://cdn-ami-wordpress.heartyhosting.com/www.nationalenquirer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/barack-obama-birth-certificate-trump-2.jpg?fit=1380%2C880&ssl=1

Swordsmyth
07-22-2018, 03:37 PM
Odd that after years of looking nobody has found any Kenyan birth certificate.

The authorities in the US and Kenya have been less than cooperative.

pcosmar
07-22-2018, 03:41 PM
But his birth certificate says Honolulu.

Are you referring to the very obviously faked (Photoshoped) copy presented as authentic?

I saw it and can do better with GIMP.

timosman
07-22-2018, 04:00 PM
But his birth certificate says Honolulu.

Which layer?:cool:

dude58677
07-22-2018, 04:31 PM
This is like how Milli Vanilli's tape skipped while in the middle of a concert.

https://youtu.be/3Dk7-t5O4Go

juleswin
07-22-2018, 05:12 PM
This is like how Milli Vanilli's tape skipped while in the middle of a concert.

https://youtu.be/3Dk7-t5O4Go

Look closely and u will see that he is still using notes for his speeches. I think he was just trolling the few birther that still remain. Now had he slipped and seriously(not in jest) said he was the first US president "born" in Kenya then I will start believing that line of thinking.

dude58677
07-22-2018, 05:40 PM
Look closely and u will see that he is still using notes for his speeches. I think he was just trolling the few birther that still remain. Now had he slipped and seriously(not in jest) said he was the first US president "born" in Kenya then I will start believing that line of thinking.

He looked dejected immediately after he said it. That is guilt. I guess he faked his Kenyan birth certificate too. I guess he was joking there too?

The other thing is that the burden of proof rests on Obama. Because when you run for President, the candidates are asked to provide it. There isn't an issue with it because candidates usually provide the proof. Barack Obama doesn't then demands everyone to prove that he isn't a citizen of the United States. Then when they don't because it isn't there obligation. He then mocks them. Then pretends like he is joking when he slips up.

kpitcher
07-24-2018, 05:50 PM
His dad is Kenyan, so regardless of where he is born, he would always be Kenyan. My cousins who were born in this country are Nigerians as well as being Americans. I thought this was old news.

Alert me when he admits he was born in Kenya. Now that would be a revelation, not this rubbish.

Exactly, when St. Patty's Day comes around I'm Irish because my great grandparents were.

Swordsmyth
07-24-2018, 05:53 PM
Exactly, when St. Patty's Day comes around I'm Irish because my great grandparents were.

But you don't say you are "from Ireland".