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Anti Federalist
07-12-2018, 07:47 PM
Well, can't say as I am in favor of this, not only due to the cost, but the fact that Raymond Loewy was a fricking genius and his work ought not be fucked with.

acptulsa


Trump Requests Patriotic Makeover for Air Force One

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/12/trump-requests-more-american-air-force-one-design/

12 Jul 2018

President Trump is requesting Air Force One undergo an external makeover so it will look “more American,” according to a report published Thursday.

Axios reported Thursday that Trump wants to replace what he describes as the “Jackie Kennedy” blue trim of the current Air Force One plane with a paint job that shows the red, white, and blue colors of the American flag.

According to the report, Trump met with Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg in the Oval Office in February, finalizing an “informal deal” to purchase two 747s for $4 billion to replace the aging fleet.

The White House announced the deal would save taxpayers $1.4 billion, as the cost will be a reduction from the initial $5 billion estimate for the new planes.

Air Force One’s current color scheme dates back to the 1960s, when President John F. Kennedy and first lady Jackie Kennedy commissioned industrial designer Raymond Loewy to redesign the plane.

He changed the plane’s orange color scheme and the words “MILITARY AIR TRANSPORT SERVICE” to its current design, featuring a light blue trim and the words “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.” Air Force One’s current design has been in place for more than 55 years.

The president also reportedly requested the presidential bed on the new plane receive an upgrade from its couch-like sleeping quarters to a more comfortable arrangement.

Though Trump is commissioning the changes, he may not see them unless he is re-elected. Axios reported the two Boeing 747s are unlikely to be ready for presidential transport before January 20, 2021—the end of Trump’s first term in office.

Danke
07-12-2018, 08:00 PM
New paint job for Air Force One:

https://s3.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/orK7UPeg5Dq5i4HfbYN5DQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW15O3E9NzU7dz02NDA7c209MQ--/http://l.yimg.com/yp/offnetwork/d347b67d00177184330870db23e861ee
@TheTexan (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=33245)



https://images.axios.com/kWY2K4fbATm-O0WNhFzTQFQ5WQY=/0x0:1920x1080/1920x1080/2018/07/12/1531388848957.jpg

...

Anti Federalist
07-12-2018, 08:14 PM
I am a sailor, a train nerd, a pilot, a biker and a gearhead...Loewy touched all these worlds.

Just a few of the thousands of iconic and beautiful Loewy designs...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/PRR_K4s_3768.jpg

https://oldmachinepress.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/prr-s1-6100-color.jpg

https://www.american-rails.com/images/T14444Englewood.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pcu4-VzfsXE/USPi1lkNrNI/AAAAAAAAr84/8uyWSaSwdAM/s1600/PRR+GG1+painting+Howard+Fogg.JPG

https://images2.bonhams.com/image?src=Images/live/2009-04/08/7868153-1-1.jpg&width=640&height=480&autosizefit=1

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9b/58/17/9b58175bc286930f9b1764628b531bf0.jpg

https://www.hemmings.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2014/03/1947StudebakerChampion_01_1200-700x526.jpg

https://flashbak.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/catalina1.jpg

His designs even went into space, on mankind's very first manned space station:

https://roadtoendeavour.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/skylab.jpg

As long as there is, or must be, a 747 tax tractor, keep it in the Loewy livery please.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marvelcinematicuniverse/images/8/86/Air_Force_One.png/revision/latest?cb=20141125070236

Anti Federalist
07-12-2018, 08:15 PM
Because the memes have already started...

https://********************************/2018/07/air-force-one-remodel.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018/07/13/USAT/a0d992ae-629c-4f9a-929f-f0d8fe17eaad-VPC_AIR_FORCE_ONE_DESKTOP_THUMB.jpg?quality=10

https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5b477af9c0229b1c008b4871-750-375.jpg

angelatc
07-12-2018, 08:18 PM
Well, can't say as I am in favor of this, not only due to the cost, but the fact that Raymond Loewy was a fricking genius and his work ought not be fucked with.
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Agreed. BUt I think we can take comfort in the fact that Obama didn't choose the artist to to a redesign.

tommyrp12
07-12-2018, 08:31 PM
Here is the first one. Something based off of this would look pretty good IMO.

https://i.imgur.com/ZqXtmPQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HX9DJfM.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehwvZXVKmPU

Swordsmyth
07-12-2018, 08:33 PM
If it is going to change they should make it look like a giant Bald Eagle.

Danke
07-12-2018, 08:34 PM
https://images2.bonhams.com/image?src=Images/live/2009-04/08/7868153-1-1.jpg&width=640&height=480&autosizefit=1












I have an airplane like that, an N3N3

enhanced_deficit
07-12-2018, 08:38 PM
Because the memes have already started...


https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5b477af9c0229b1c008b4871-750-375.jpg


Luckily these are relatively peace times. Can anyone imagine how Trump would have conducted himself differently than Bush in terms of patriotic actions if he was POTUS in 2003?

He probably would have made even more patriotic imagery than Bush who had air force experience.

On a different note, both support Patriot Act.


http://www.internationalist.org/bushnypostwww.gif


https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PPkAAOSwv0tVOrGA/s-l300.jpg


https://raycityhistory.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/g_w_bush-jet.jpg



Potentially Un-Related

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oyarde
07-12-2018, 08:39 PM
I have an airplane like that, an N3N3

The one in the photo is a real Army plane . You know , back in the day when they were real soldiers .

Zippyjuan
07-12-2018, 08:43 PM
The proposed new paint job:

https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn-image.travelandleisure.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffil es%2Fstyles%2F1600x1000%2Fpublic%2F1484755019%2Ftr ump-airplane-colorado-landing-JETS0117.jpg%3Fitok%3DRHrzIwHA&w=700&q=85


According to the report, Trump met with Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg in the Oval Office in February, finalizing an “informal deal” to purchase two 747s for $4 billion to replace the aging fleet.

The White House announced the deal would save taxpayers $1.4 billion, as the cost will be a reduction from the initial $5 billion estimate for the new planes.

Only $2 billion a plane. And that claimed $1 billion in savings? He used "department store math." It was originally $3.9 billion, then he said it would be $5 billion and now back down to $4 billion. "See, I saved you $1 billion!"


The White House is touting this $3.9 billion deal as providing savings of more than $1 billion, an example of Trump's deal-making skills. But the fine print shows a more complicated story. The new Air Force One project was estimated at $4 billion in December 2016.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/27/politics/boeing-air-force-one-donald-trump/index.html

Planes aren't currently scheduled to be finished until 2024 though Trump wants them by 2021 so he may get the chance to ride in one (assuming he gets re-elected).


The President repeatedly asked in the meeting how soon the plane could be ready, two officials said, and was fixated on a time frame of at least 2021. It remains an open question whether the Air Force can complete its testing and modifications by then. It wasn't scheduled to be ready until at least 2024.

Swordsmyth
07-12-2018, 08:55 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTtemP7aXfjHVNTDApZmuq_shW2UJGwR oyksbb5WOE_Bl3ZxxHm0A

Swordsmyth
07-12-2018, 08:57 PM
http://cdn.simplesite.com/i/f9/65/283445308293408249/i283445314558364840._szw480h360_.jpg

It's close enough to MAGA.

Swordsmyth
07-12-2018, 08:58 PM
If it is going to change they should make it look like a giant Bald Eagle.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQbvIWTV264d1d26cYosHFCPimHWf5_q lLx72-E1HqhMqR37uhO

kpitcher
07-12-2018, 09:00 PM
The only thing the article discusses is a new paint job and a bed change? There's a reason for an upgrade!

Although if the rumors are true Trump will also want some waterproof sheets on the bedding.

Swordsmyth
07-12-2018, 09:03 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJQlIRO-tVKUXsVymDz7tXpUnOPeOe5c4WfExC1gyMrMa2xbTx

Anti Federalist
07-12-2018, 10:23 PM
I have an airplane like that, an N3N3

Ummm...may I come and visit please?

Danke
07-12-2018, 10:37 PM
Ummm...may I come and visit please?


I'll let you fly it solo, just need to up my insurance policy.

Anti Federalist
07-12-2018, 10:43 PM
I'll let you fly it solo, just need to up my insurance policy.

I'll be riding my motorcycle...

pcosmar
07-12-2018, 10:44 PM
https://www.tradingpaints.com/showroom/pictures/103872/1.jpg

Danke
07-12-2018, 10:44 PM
I'll be riding my motorcycle...


Put HB in the front seat.

TheCount
07-13-2018, 02:02 AM
It should be covered in corporate sponsorship stickers.

Anti Federalist
07-23-2018, 06:47 AM
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shakey1
07-23-2018, 07:06 AM
Agreed. BUt I think we can take comfort in the fact that Obama didn't choose the artist to to a redesign.

:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIb4Sf7IzFI

Anti Federalist
07-23-2018, 12:48 PM
:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIb4Sf7IzFI

Needs a pack of Skittles painted on it.

Anti Federalist
07-23-2018, 12:49 PM
I was hoping acptulsa would check in on this thread.

osan
07-23-2018, 01:03 PM
$2B for a friggin' 747?!!! Good aircraft,but not quite that good.

Anti Federalist
07-23-2018, 01:36 PM
Agreed. BUt I think we can take comfort in the fact that Obama didn't choose the artist to to a redesign.

Valid point...it would have looked like a giant penis.

acptulsa
07-24-2018, 07:47 AM
Oh, I don't know that every Loewy design should be treated as sacred. But there were some very good ones...

http://smclassiccars.com/uploads/postfotos/rare-1949-studebaker-champion-starlight-coupe-2.jpg

...and the Air Force One paint job is one of them. I sincerely doubt anyone is going to come up with anything better. But, you know, Trump has been known for decades to prefer ostentatiousness to good design


It should be covered in corporate sponsorship stickers.

Yeah, except sponsors trade goods for publicity. Trump's brib--er, I mean contributors trade money for contracts worth much more money. Giving free goods is not on their agenda, and neither is publicity.

Schifference
07-24-2018, 08:40 AM
Financially speaking there is no better time to consider a redesign/paint scheme than before the new jets are built.

Brian4Liberty
07-24-2018, 08:46 AM
It should have his signature on it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KbRA2RjhgQ