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enhanced_deficit
07-11-2018, 09:17 PM
Some kinda 4-D chess going on here?
Or neocoons owners pressured him to flip flop?


Had heard him say multiple times that would be great if US and Russia got along.

Swordsmyth
07-11-2018, 09:30 PM
Some kinda 4-D chess going on here?
Or neocoons owners pressured him to flip flop?


Had heard him say multiple times that would be great if US and Russia got along.

He is using their own anti-Russia propaganda against them, the goal here is to break NATO and the EU.
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enhanced_deficit
07-11-2018, 09:36 PM
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Interesting. So his statements are untrue propaganada in retaliation for Germany's propaganda?

That could qualify to be 4-D Chess.


July 11, 2018
Trump lashes Germany over gas pipeline deal, calls it Russia's 'captive'

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump launched a sharp public attack on Germany on Wednesday for supporting a Baltic Sea gas pipeline deal with Russia, saying Berlin had become “a captive to Russia” and he criticized it for failing to raise defense spending more.

“When Germany makes a massive oil and gas deal with Russia,” Trump said to Stoltenberg. “We’re supposed to be guarding against Russia and Germany goes out and pays billions and billions of dollars a year to Russia.
“We’re protecting Germany, we’re protecting France, we’re protecting all of these countries. And then numerous of the countries go out and make a pipeline deal with Russia where they’re paying billions of dollars into the coffers of Russia.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nato-summit-pipeline/trump-lashes-germany-over-gas-pipeline-deal-calls-it-russias-captive-idUSKBN1K10VI

Swordsmyth
07-11-2018, 09:40 PM
Interesting. So his statements are untrue propaganada in retaliation for Germany's propaganda?

That could qualify to be 4-D Chess.


July 11, 2018
Trump lashes Germany over gas pipeline deal, calls it Russia's 'captive'

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump launched a sharp public attack on Germany on Wednesday for supporting a Baltic Sea gas pipeline deal with Russia, saying Berlin had become “a captive to Russia” and he criticized it for failing to raise defense spending more.

“When Germany makes a massive oil and gas deal with Russia,” Trump said to Stoltenberg. “We’re supposed to be guarding against Russia and Germany goes out and pays billions and billions of dollars a year to Russia.
“We’re protecting Germany, we’re protecting France, we’re protecting all of these countries. And then numerous of the countries go out and make a pipeline deal with Russia where they’re paying billions of dollars into the coffers of Russia.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nato-summit-pipeline/trump-lashes-germany-over-gas-pipeline-deal-calls-it-russias-captive-idUSKBN1K10VI

It is not entirely untrue, Germany has positioned itself to be ever more dependent on Russia while expecting us to protect it from the Russian threat it claims exists and using protectionism and NATO to plunder our economy.

enhanced_deficit
07-11-2018, 10:04 PM
It is not entirely untrue, Germany has positioned itself to be ever more dependent on Russia while expecting us to protect it from the Russian threat it claims exists and using protectionism and NATO to plunder our economy.

When you phrase it like this, starts to sound logical.

By same token, seems like Germany is also finding logic flaws in Trump/Ivanka's Syria policy. Wonder if this played any role in today's public lashing at Germany.

German Parliament Declares US Military Presence in Syria Illegal (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?524109-German-Parliament-Declares-US-Military-Presence-in-Syria-Illegal&)

oyarde
07-11-2018, 10:17 PM
Thing is , who cares about the germans ? No reason for us too .

Schifference
07-12-2018, 05:24 AM
Thing is , who cares about the germans ? No reason for us too .

It isn't about the German's as much as it is about the German's wanting us to defend them from Russia while they make themselves more reliant on Russia. Counterproductive.

AuH20
07-12-2018, 08:27 AM
He's poking through their hypocrisy, on the eve of his summit in Helsinki.

shakey1
07-12-2018, 09:06 AM
Peaceful relations thru trade?

CaptUSA
07-12-2018, 09:37 AM
Trump being Trump. That's all. He says all sorts of things. And later says the exact opposite.