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TheCount
07-11-2018, 01:42 PM
One child’s case in particular is likely to be controversial. According to the report [emphasis added]:


1 child cannot be reunified at this time because the parent’s location has been unknown for more than a year. Defendants are unable to conclusively determine whether the parent is a class member, and records show the parent and child might be U.S. citizens.


You read correctly. According to two U.S. Attorneys and six officials within the Department of Justice identified in the Tuesday filing, ICE itself tends to believe that U.S. immigration agents separated a family of U.S. citizens–and then lost track of the parent while keeping the child in the custody of an unmentioned government agency.

https://lawandcrime.com/immigration/trump-admin-records-show-family-separated-at-border-might-be-u-s-citizens/


Here's the government's filing. See the top bullet on page 4:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4593366-Notice-Other.html

Swordsmyth
07-11-2018, 02:06 PM
Get back to me when it isn't a "might be", get back to me when the MSM notices CPS abuses, get back to me when the MSM admits this kind of thing happened under O'Bummer, get back to me when you can show this is Trump's fault.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
07-11-2018, 03:02 PM
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Ender
07-11-2018, 03:25 PM
http://image.blingee.com/images16/content/output/000/000/000/57b/438427575_891839.gif

This has happened before- it is guesstimated that up to hundreds of thousands to over 1 mil Americans of Mexican descent were deported unconstitutionally and illegally under Hoover.


The Mexican Repatriation was a mass deportation of Mexicans and Mexican-Americans from the United States between 1929 and 1936. Estimates of how many were repatriated range from 400,000 to 2,000,000.[1]:xiii[2]:150 An estimated sixty percent of those deported were birthright citizens of the United States.[2]:330 Because the forced movement was based on race, and ignored citizenship, the process arguably meets modern legal definitions of ethnic cleansing.[3]:6

Widely blamed for exacerbating the overall economic downturn of the Great Depression,[4] Mexicans were further targeted because of "the proximity of the Mexican border, the physical distinctiveness of mestizos, and easily identifiable barrios."[5] While supported by the federal government, actual deportations were largely organized and carried out by city and state governments, often with support from local private entities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/the-sunday-edition-march-25-2018-1.4589621/over-a-million-mexican-americans-were-expelled-in-the-1930s-now-history-is-repeating-itself-1.4589640

https://www.history.com/news/operation-wetback-eisenhower-1954-deportation

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/03/americas-brutal-forgotten-history-of-illegal-deportations/517971/

Zippyjuan
07-11-2018, 03:33 PM
This has happened before- it is guesstimated that up to hundreds of thousands to over 1 mil Americans of Mexican descent were deported unconstitutionally and illegally under Hoover.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/the-sunday-edition-march-25-2018-1.4589621/over-a-million-mexican-americans-were-expelled-in-the-1930s-now-history-is-repeating-itself-1.4589640

https://www.history.com/news/operation-wetback-eisenhower-1954-deportation

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/03/americas-brutal-forgotten-history-of-illegal-deportations/517971/

He just likes the cute picture he found. Has used it quite a bit in the last 24 hours.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
07-11-2018, 03:37 PM
This has happened before-


So? That has nothing to do with someone's paid trolling on here.

Swordsmyth
07-11-2018, 03:38 PM
This has happened before- it is guesstimated that up to hundreds of thousands to over 1 mil Americans of Mexican descent were deported unconstitutionally and illegally under Hoover.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/the-sunday-edition-march-25-2018-1.4589621/over-a-million-mexican-americans-were-expelled-in-the-1930s-now-history-is-repeating-itself-1.4589640

https://www.history.com/news/operation-wetback-eisenhower-1954-deportation

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/03/americas-brutal-forgotten-history-of-illegal-deportations/517971/

Let me know if Trump expels American citizens without some just cause to revoke their citizenship.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
07-11-2018, 03:44 PM
He just likes the cute picture he found. Has used it quite a bit in the last 24 hours.


The glitter coming off that can is mesmerizing. :eyes: :D











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phill4paul
07-11-2018, 03:52 PM
So this case stems from actions more than a year ago. How much more? Trumps "zero tolerance" policy went into effect this year. In fact, this particular case could go back as far as Obamas administration. Another big nothing burger.

fedupinmo
07-11-2018, 03:53 PM
If the parents were worth a shit, they would be making enough noise so that they would have no trouble being found.

Ender
07-11-2018, 03:53 PM
So? That has nothing to do with someone's paid trolling on here.

I don't think TheCount is a troll-never have- he was a poster with clever subtle sarcasm when I first read his stuff.

Then the Trump-Lovers took over the forum. His sarcasm became more obvious & usually on target-

I'd say there a a few others trolling to spread hate and discontent but I don't see The Count included in that group.

Swordsmyth
07-11-2018, 03:56 PM
I don't think @TheCount (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=58229) is a troll-never have- he was a poster with clever subtle sarcasm when I first read his stuff.

Then the Trump-Lovers took over the forum. His sarcasm became more obvious & usually on target-

I'd say there a a few others trolling to spread hate and discontent but I don't see The Count included in that group.

One troll defends another.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
07-11-2018, 04:40 PM
I don't think TheCount is a troll-never have- he was a poster with clever subtle sarcasm when I first read his stuff.

Then the Trump-Lovers took over the forum. His sarcasm became more obvious & usually on target-

I'd say there a a few others trolling to spread hate and discontent but I don't see The Count included in that group.



Eh, suit yourself. I'm never going to say anything like this unless I am 100% sure. I am 100% sure, but I guess I'll never convince you.



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Ender
07-11-2018, 04:43 PM
One troll defends another.

LOL- oh Divine Spreader of Hate & Disinfo- that would be YOU.

Swordsmyth
07-11-2018, 04:45 PM
LOL- oh Divine Spreader of Hate & Disinfo- that would be YOU.

Tell us again how wonderful the Pope and the Jesuits are.

spudea
07-11-2018, 05:05 PM
US citizens still have to follow the law GASP! The "parent" was probably a human trafficker, citizenship makes no difference.

timosman
07-11-2018, 05:18 PM
One troll defends another.

This tells you something about the troll population on RPF. It is quite significant despite many trolls no longer being with us.