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Swordsmyth
07-10-2018, 11:25 PM
A multi-year legal battle over the ability to distribute computer models of gun parts and replicate them in 3D printers has ended in defeat for government authorities who sought to prevent the practice. Cody Wilson, the gunmaker and free speech advocate behind the lawsuit, now intends to expand his operations, providing printable gun blueprints to all who desire them.
The longer story of the lawsuit is well told by Andy Greenberg over at Wired (https://www.wired.com/story/a-landmark-legal-shift-opens-pandoras-box-for-diy-guns), but the decision is eloquent on its own. The fundamental question is whether making 3D models of gun components available online is covered by the free speech rights granted by the First Amendment.
This is a timely but complex conflict because it touches on two themes that happen to be, for many, ethically contradictory. Arguments for tighter restrictions on firearms are, in this case, directly opposed to arguments for the unfettered exchange of information on the internet. It's hard to advocate for both here: restricting firearms and restricting free speech are one and the same.
That at least seems to be conclusion of the government lawyers, who settled Wilson's lawsuit after years of court battles. In a copy of the settlement provided to me by Wilson, the U.S. government agrees to exempt "the technical data that is the subject of the Action" from legal restriction. The modified rules should appear in the Federal Register soon.
What does this mean? It means that a 3D model that can be used to print the components of a working firearm is legal to own and legal to distribute. You can likely even print it and use the product — you just can't sell it. There are technicalities to the law here (certain parts are restricted, but can be sold in an incomplete state, etc) but the implications as regards the files themselves seems clear.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/court-victory-legalizes-3d-printable-231943763.html

devil21
07-11-2018, 01:24 AM
Has 3D printing technology advanced to the point where this matters anymore?

Gun prints in the past resulted in very mixed and unreliable results and in most cases were only good for a "temporary" (read: assassination) firearm.

Swordsmyth
07-11-2018, 01:27 AM
Has 3D printing technology advanced to the point where this matters anymore?

Gun prints in the past resulted in very mixed and unreliable results and in most cases were only good for a "temporary" (read: assassination) firearm.

The technology will continue to advance.

ThePaleoLibertarian
07-11-2018, 01:43 AM
There's no feasible way to prohibit such things anyway. The most they could do is make it so the owner would have to hack the machine or download the schematics as a torrent.

devil21
07-11-2018, 01:54 AM
The technology will continue to advance.

That didn't answer my question.

Swordsmyth
07-11-2018, 01:59 AM
That didn't answer my question.

I don't know the answer to your question but this ruling is good and will be useful in the future if not now.

devil21
07-11-2018, 02:38 AM
I don't know the answer to your question but this ruling is good and will be useful in the future if not now.

So you confirm that you just post whatever shit the MSM pumps out without any comprehension of what you're posting.

kcchiefs6465
07-11-2018, 09:25 AM
So you confirm that you just post whatever shit the MSM pumps out without any comprehension of what you're posting.
Yes, 3-D printing firearms is becoming a viable (see: reliable) option for those looking to build their own firearms.

They also have the Ghost Gunner CNC which can finish 80% lowers.

MSM would have much preferred the 1st Amendment to not cover these files and as soon as it is out of the bag of where this technology is at (building your own firearms at will), expect apoplectic tantrums.

Not to mention that this technology is for far more than just building firearms. Flash hiders, magazines, foregrips, you name it.... and soon, polymer shell casings.

That is beyond the Liberator, polymer lowers, etc.

brushfire
07-11-2018, 09:48 AM
I don't know the answer to your question but this ruling is good and will be useful in the future if not now.

Its a double edge sword. While I agree with the ruling, it will be used to create hysteria. Just as the bumpfire nonsense - they'll be shouting "We must do something". Waiting to see the same staged incidents, such as the plastic firearms on a plane.

kcchiefs6465
07-11-2018, 10:10 AM
Its a double edge sword. While I agree with the ruling, it will be used to create hysteria. Just as the bumpfire nonsense - they'll be shouting "We must do something". Waiting to see the same staged incidents, such as the plastic firearms on a plane.
If it makes you feel any better, the TSA hardly finds mostly metal weapons too.


TSA fails most tests in latest undercover operation at US airports

In recent undercover tests of multiple airport security checkpoints by the Department of Homeland Security, inspectors said screeners, their equipment or their procedures failed more than half the time, according to a source familiar with the classified report.

When ABC News asked the source if the failure rate was 80 percent, the response was, "You are in the ballpark."

.....

The news of the failure comes two years after ABC News reported that secret teams from the DHS found that the TSA failed 95 percent of the time to stop inspectors from smuggling weapons or explosive materials through screening.

hxxps://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-tests-latest-undercover-operation-us-airports/story?id=51022188

brushfire
07-11-2018, 10:18 AM
If it makes you feel any better, the TSA hardly finds mostly metal weapons too.

No need to convince me - I agree, its kabuki theater. Still, the media will selectively present their cases, to support their anti-gun narrative. And those who are casual (lazy) about understanding current events, will swallow the narrative hook-line-and-sinker. Leaving those of us who know better to be labeled as "on the fringe, conspiracy, nutjobs".

@2:13


https://youtu.be/wf-gIUYRCyk?t=2m13s

Swordsmyth
07-11-2018, 12:58 PM
So you confirm that you just post whatever $#@! the MSM pumps out without any comprehension of what you're posting.

No, I posted a ruling that is good for gun rights in the future if not right now.

jllundqu
07-11-2018, 01:37 PM
Has 3D printing technology advanced to the point where this matters anymore?

Gun prints in the past resulted in very mixed and unreliable results and in most cases were only good for a "temporary" (read: assassination) firearm.

That is entirely beside the friggin point!

The government tried to say this guy violated the firearm export laws... claiming that digital code was, in effect, a firearm! He fought it and won! Now an entirely new field of digitally coded firearm prints is available. No serial numbers, no tracking, no infringing, etc. This is an absolute victory...

jllundqu
07-11-2018, 01:39 PM
So you confirm that you just post whatever shit the MSM pumps out without any comprehension of what you're posting.

- rep


This was a bullshit attack. It IS good for gun rights. It IS good for 1st amendment rights. Anyone who can't see that, is blindly ignorant.

Swordsmyth
07-11-2018, 01:48 PM
- rep


This was a bull$#@! attack. It IS good for gun rights. It IS good for 1st amendment rights. Anyone who can't see that, is blindly ignorant.

Thanks.

Swordsmyth
07-14-2018, 09:09 PM
Due to the terms of the surprising settlement of the United States government, Wilson can begin posting his open-source technical data, including files for every gun up to .50 caliber available through commerce, on July 27. An irrevocable content dump, according to Wilson, which renders gun control efforts increasingly futile.
Moreover, in the settlement, "the government expressly acknowledges that non-automatic firearms up to .50-caliber – including modern semi-auto sporting rifles such as the popular AR-15 and similar firearms – are not inherently military," notes (http://joshblackman.com/blog/2018/07/10/doj-second-amendment-foundation-reach-settlement-in-defense-distributed-lawsuit/) a press release from the Second Amendment Foundation. In other words, the handful of liberal states that currently ban "assault weapons" like the AR-15, such as New York state via the SAFE Act, could potentially face legal challenges.

"This doesn’t put the rifle in everyone’s hand, but it does that in essence. The DNA of our culture is preserved," he explained. "This is the first pillar in the internet gun culture of tomorrow, and it is permanent."

Wilson emphasized that this can’t be regulated in any meaningful way. "Anything that makes it through my organization now, becomes public domain material, irrevocably so," he said. "I’m the shepherd... and I’m going to put any and everything up."
And Defense Distributed, a nonprofit organization founded by Wilson that maintains defcad.com, will only help to accelerate gun culture online via their open-source content, standing as a reference resource and model for customization. "It’s kinda like GitHub for guns," he said.



More at: https://www.dailywire.com/news/32872/doj-settles-landmark-gun-suit-safeguarding-second-amanda-prestigiacomo

Swordsmyth
07-27-2018, 07:07 PM
A U.S. judge on Friday rejected a last-ditch effort by gun control groups to block the Trump administration from allowing the public to download blueprints for 3-D printable guns, declining to intervene just days before the designs are expected to go online.

U.S. District Judge Robert Pitman in Austin, Texas, denied the request for an order by the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, Everytown for Gun Safety and the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence at a hearing, saying he would state the reasons for his decision in a written order to follow.
At the hearing, the judge said he was sympathetic to the gun control groups’ concerns but questioned their legal standing to intervene in the case.
The groups sought to intervene following a June settlement between Defense Distributed and the U.S. government allowing the company to legally publish gun blueprints online, something its website says it plans to do by Aug. 1.
The government ordered the blueprints taken down in 2013 and Defense Distributed founder Cody Wilson sued in 2015, claiming his First Amendment and Second Amendment rights had been violated.
The government had until recently argued the blueprints posed a national security risk. Gun control groups said there had been no explanation for the June settlement and the administration’s abrupt reversal on the issue.
Lawyers for the Brady Center declined to comment on Pitman’s ruling after the hearing.

More at: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-guns/u-s-judge-denies-gun-control-groups-attempt-to-block-3-d-gun-blueprints-idUSKBN1KH2I2

Root
07-30-2018, 02:22 PM
https://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/07/3d-printed_gun_group_sues_nj_ag.html

Jersey's AG sued over move to block 3D-printed gun website in N.J.



A Texas group created to share designs online allowing anyone to produce a 3D-printed firearm at home is suing New Jersey's attorney general for attempting to block access to its website by residents of the Garden State.

Defense Distributed is slated to release its design schematics for homemade guns on its website August 1 after a lengthy legal battle with the federal government led to a settlement earlier this month.

But New Jersey Attorney General Gurbir Grewal last week sent the group a letter claiming (https://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/07/3d-printed_guns_have_nj_officials_freaked_out.html) that making the files available to New Jersey residents would be a violation of state law.

{ /snip... more at link }

Grewal wrote in a cease-and-desist letter that the release of the digital files would "flood the illegal firearms market and pose a direct threat to the public safety of my state," calling it a violation of the state's public nuisance laws.

Wilson said Sunday he would temporarily block users with New Jersey IP addresses from accessing the files when they are posted. Later, in an email to NJ Advance Media, Wilson said he "elected to correct your attorney general in court" and filed papers in the U.S. District Court in West Texas.

The complaint (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4620744-DEFENSE-DISTRIBUTED-SUIT.html) accuses Grewal and Feuer of engaging in an "ideologically-fueled program of intimidation and harassment." It calls their legal threats "an unconstitutional prior restraint," a term that applies to efforts by the government to suppress publication of information it deems harmful.

Cody Wilson posted on Twitter that he's now being sued by 21 state AG's. The complaint he filed agains NJ and LA's AG's is a good read.

Swordsmyth
07-30-2018, 03:38 PM
https://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/07/3d-printed_gun_group_sues_nj_ag.html

Jersey's AG sued over move to block 3D-printed gun website in N.J.



Cody Wilson posted on Twitter that he's now being sued by 21 state AG's. The complaint he filed agains NJ and LA's AG's is a good read.
Turbanhead needs to be deported, alternatively we need anyone sane to leave NJ so you aren't left behind when we expel them.

Swordsmyth
07-30-2018, 08:47 PM
Pennsylvania officials have blocked a company that makes downloadable plans for 3D printed guns from making them accessible in the state or allowing the company to upload new files.

Texas-based pro-gun group Defense Distributed sought to make its 3D downloadable gun files available over the internet. However officials in Pennsylvania sued the company to make the plans inaccessible in their state. And after an emergency session on Sunday in a Philadelphia federal court, the company agreed to make its plans inaccessible to Pennsylvania (https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/pennsylvania) users and to not upload any new files, according to Attorney General (https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/taking-action/press-releases/attorney-general-shapiro-governor-wolf-state-police-successfully-block-access-to-3d-downloadable-guns-in-pennsylvania/) Josh Shapiro's office.

More at: https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2018-07-30/company-agrees-to-make-3d-printed-guns-inaccessible-in-pennsylvania

:mad:

Swordsmyth
07-30-2018, 11:02 PM
https://defcad.com/?order=recent

Grandmastersexsay
07-31-2018, 06:38 AM
It will be useless for individual states to block people from downloading CAD files. A VPN or tor browser makes it impossible for the seller to know where the buyer is located. Prepaid credits cards you can buy at Walmart allow you to register any billing address you want, so the seller won't be able to discover what state you live in that way either.

Additionally, these plans will quickly get pirated, as that will provide even more anonymity for people who want them. These states can cry and fuss all they want, but it won't accomplish anything.

devil21
07-31-2018, 10:56 AM
Ooops. Trump seems to not be a fan.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-31/trump-comes-out-against-3-d-printed-guns

EBounding
07-31-2018, 11:05 AM
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Swordsmyth
07-31-2018, 01:31 PM
It will be useless for individual states to block people from downloading CAD files. A VPN or tor browser makes it impossible for the seller to know where the buyer is located. Prepaid credits cards you can buy at Walmart allow you to register any billing address you want, so the seller won't be able to discover what state you live in that way either.

Additionally, these plans will quickly get pirated, as that will provide even more anonymity for people who want them. These states can cry and fuss all they want, but it won't accomplish anything.

The designs are free to download, a trip across a state line to an internet cafe or a VPN is all that is needed to get around local bans.

Swordsmyth
07-31-2018, 01:33 PM
Ooops. Trump seems to not be a fan.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-31/trump-comes-out-against-3-d-printed-guns

I don't think he really means it or that anything will come form his statements but it is bad that he is pandering on the issue, I don't believe he gains any support from "moderates" in return for the life he breathes into the ant-gun culture.

kcchiefs6465
07-31-2018, 01:57 PM
I don't think he really means it or that anything will come form his statements but it is bad that he is pandering on the issue, I don't believe he gains any support from "moderates" in return for the life he breathes into the ant-gun culture.
Why do you think he doesn't mean it?

Swordsmyth
07-31-2018, 02:04 PM
Why do you think he doesn't mean it?

Because when he did the same thing with bump stocks he insisted on going the regulatory route that is doomed to be struck down if it ever actually happens, even AF has admitted Dannno may win their bet.

If Trump really meant the anti-gun things he has said he would have been pushing for legislation on bump stocks.

I predict that nothing will happen about printed guns and Trump will stop talking about them.

tommyrp12
07-31-2018, 02:34 PM
So are these files for their milling machine or just the plastic 3D printers that are out there already?

Swordsmyth
07-31-2018, 03:13 PM
It will be useless for individual states to block people from downloading CAD files. A VPN or tor browser makes it impossible for the seller to know where the buyer is located. Prepaid credits cards you can buy at Walmart allow you to register any billing address you want, so the seller won't be able to discover what state you live in that way either.

Additionally, these plans will quickly get pirated, as that will provide even more anonymity for people who want them. These states can cry and fuss all they want, but it won't accomplish anything.

They can't stop torrents:

https://thepiratebay.org/search/Defense%20distributed/0/99/0

Origanalist
07-31-2018, 05:56 PM
https://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/07/3d-printed_gun_group_sues_nj_ag.html

Jersey's AG sued over move to block 3D-printed gun website in N.J.



Cody Wilson posted on Twitter that he's now being sued by 21 state AG's. The complaint he filed agains NJ and LA's AG's is a good read.

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Swordsmyth
07-31-2018, 07:43 PM
Update: Somewhat as expected, after the hysteria if the last few days, CNN reports (https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/31/us/3d-guns-downloaded-plans-states/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNN&utm_medium=social&utm_content=2018-07-31T23%3A35%3A17)that Federal Judge Robert Lasnik - an Obama appointee - issued a temporary restraining order on Tuesday "blocking (the) federal government from allowing distribution of downloadable 3D printed" guns, according to a tweet from the Washington State Office of the Attorney General.


"The judge's rule is clear," Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson said at a news conference. "We go back to the status quo, before the federal government made the disastrous decision to undo these protections for public safety."
"Disastrous decision", "reckless" - once again the hysterical reactions from the left spew forth, but as spokeswoman Brionna Aho notes, the judge's ruling does not order Defense Distribution to take the plans for the guns off their website, but keeping them up is again illegal.

"The effect is restoring the status quo before the government took action but (the judge) hasn't technically ruled on the lawfulness of the government action yet."
Defense Distributed founder Cody Wilson said the site has disabled downloads until he reviews the order.
* * *

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-31/trump-comes-out-against-3-d-printed-guns

Too late, the genie is out of the bottle.

They can't stop torrents:

https://thepiratebay.org/search/Defe...ributed/0/99/0 (https://thepiratebay.org/search/Defense%20distributed/0/99/0)

Root
08-01-2018, 07:10 AM
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I'm surprised, but I see a bigger strategy at play at the same time.

Origanalist
08-01-2018, 07:12 AM
I'm surprised, but I see a bigger strategy at play at the same time.

He'll be back.

specsaregood
08-01-2018, 07:15 AM
"blocking (the) federal government from allowing distribution of downloadable 3D printed"

lol, what a stretch. where do they get the authority to stop the govt from allowing distribution? Let alone, not allowing distribution to begin with? ITs all so backwards it is boggling.

Brian4Liberty
08-01-2018, 10:31 AM
In a decision from the bench issued immediately after an hourlong argument by lawyers for both sides, Judge Robert S. Lasnik of United States District Court said the lawyers bringing the suit had established “a likelihood of irreparable harm” and of success on the merits.

Judge Lasnik said in his ruling that there were “serious First Amendment issues” that would need to be worked out later in court, but that for the moment, there should be “no posting of instructions of how to produce 3-D guns on the internet.” The judge set a follow-up hearing for Aug. 10 in his courtroom in downtown Seattle.

A District judge in Seattle has the power to say what happens on the global internet. Talk about unelected bureaucrats...

Swordsmyth
08-01-2018, 02:37 PM
lol, what a stretch. where do they get the authority to stop the govt from allowing distribution? Let alone, not allowing distribution to begin with? ITs all so backwards it is boggling.


A District judge in Seattle has the power to say what happens on the global internet. Talk about unelected bureaucrats...

This will be overruled.
Trump needs to get SCOTUS to rule that lower judges have no authority outside their jurisdictions.

AuH20
08-05-2018, 07:50 PM
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Swordsmyth
08-27-2018, 08:23 PM
A federal judge in Washington state ruled Monday that the government needs to keep in place a ban effectively blocking a Texas-based company from posting online plans for 3D-printed firearms, ruling that the Trump administration likely cut too many corners in its decisions.
U.S. District Judge Robert S. Lasnik (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-s-lasnik/) extended his ban, first issued late last month, saying concerns about public safety and a potential spate of downloaded plans outweigh Americans’ First Amendment rights to post the files online.
“Plaintiffs have a legitimate fear that adding undetectable and untraceable guns to the arsenal of weaponry already available will likely increase the threat of gun violence they and their people experience,” Judge Lasnik (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-s-lasnik/), a Clinton appointee, said in his 25-page ruling.
He said the case raises complicated questions about whether computer files can be protected speech — but said for now he presumes Cody Wilson (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/cody-wilson/), founder of Defense Distributed, has a First Amendment right to publish the blueprints. But he said that is “dwarfed” by the potential harm.
The judge said extending the ban on publication keeps things as they are, while he continues to review the situation.

Judge Lasnik (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-s-lasnik/) said the government ignored steps in the regulatory process, including a requirement to notify Congress before removing items from the restricted export lists, and failed to do a full analysis of the effects of having 3D-printed firearms plans available online.
The Democratic state attorneys general who brought the lawsuit praised the ruling, saying they feared terrorists and other dangerous people barred from buying guns would have been able to circumvent the law and produce their own untraceable plastic weapons.
“Once again, I’m glad we put a stop to this dangerous policy,” said Washington state Attorney General Bob Ferguson. “But I have to ask a simple question: Why is the Trump administration working so hard to allow these untraceable, undetectable 3D-printed guns to be available to domestic abusers, felons and terrorists?”
Josh Blackman, one of the lawyers for Defense Distributed, said they were reviewing the court’s decision and weighing all their options.
In the weeks since Judge Lasnik (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-s-lasnik/)’s original temporary restraining order, gun-rights advocates started posting some of the 3D blueprints to other websites, saying they weren’t bound by the court case or the Obama administration’s actions against Mr. Wilson (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/cody-wilson/).
Defense Distributed’s lawyers said with those plans available elsewhere, it made little sense to continue blocking Mr. Wilson (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/cody-wilson/) from publishing.
Judge Lasnik (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-s-lasnik/) said the outcry from gun control activists proved to him that there is a danger in allowing Mr. Wilson (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/cody-wilson/) to post the files.
“The private defendants’ dogged pursuit of the right to publish these files — and the evident alarm with which the proposed publication has been met in the Congress, in the White House, amongst advocacy groups, and in state houses all over the country — suggest that further publication is not harmless,” he said.
Attorney General Jeff Sessions clarified earlier this month that undetectable, plastic firearms are already illegal under federal law and that his department would vigorously enforce and prosecute violations.
Judge Lasnik (https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/robert-s-lasnik/) said he appreciated the argument that the government is committed to enforcing the 1988 law, but the “untraceable and undetectable nature of these small firearms” poses a “unique danger.”
“It is of small comfort to know that, once an undetectable firearm has been used to kill a citizen of Delaware or Rhode Island or Vermont, the federal government will seek to prosecute a weapons charge in federal court while the State pursues a murder conviction in state court,” he said.

More at: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/27/judge-grants-injunction-3d-printed-gun-case/

devil21
08-27-2018, 10:19 PM
There goes the First Amendment. It's ok as long as it's not "outweighed" by some arbitrary counterweight applied.

The reality is that there is no First Amendment protection. The current Constitution is merely bylaws of the federal corporation and can be (and is) ignored when deemed necessary. The "rights" are actually privileges granted to employees of the federal corporation (US Citizen=employee) and can be suspended at any time, for any reason, if an officer of the corporation (judge) declares it necessary.

Swordsmyth
08-27-2018, 10:36 PM
There goes the First Amendment. It's ok as long as it's not "outweighed" by some arbitrary counterweight applied.

The reality is that there is no First Amendment protection. The current Constitution is merely bylaws of the federal corporation and can be (and is) ignored when deemed necessary. The "rights" are actually privileges granted to employees of the federal corporation (US Citizen=employee) and can be suspended at any time, for any reason, if an officer of the corporation (judge) declares it necessary.
This will be overturned.

tommyrp12
08-28-2018, 09:43 AM
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https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/6649/text
115th CONGRESS
2d Session


H. R. 6649

To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to prohibit the publication of 3D printer plans for the printing of firearms, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
August 3, 2018
Mr. Deutch (for himself, Ms. Wasserman Schultz, Mr. Schneider, and Mrs. Carolyn B. Maloney of New York) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

A BILL

......................

SEC. 3. Prohibition.
Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:

“(aa) It shall be unlawful for any person to intentionally publish, over the Internet or by means of the World Wide Web, digital instructions in the form of Computer Aided Design files or other code that can automatically program a 3-dimensional printer or similar device to produce a firearm or complete a firearm from an unfinished frame or receiver.”.

Swordsmyth
08-28-2018, 02:47 PM
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...bill/6649/text (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/6649/text)
115th CONGRESS
2d Session


H. R. 6649

To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to prohibit the publication of 3D printer plans for the printing of firearms, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
August 3, 2018
Mr. Deutch (for himself, Ms. Wasserman Schultz, Mr. Schneider, and Mrs. Carolyn B. Maloney of New York) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

A BILL

......................

SEC. 3. Prohibition.
Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:

“(aa) It shall be unlawful for any person to intentionally publish, over the Internet or by means of the World Wide Web, digital instructions in the form of Computer Aided Design files or other code that can automatically program a 3-dimensional printer or similar device to produce a firearm or complete a firearm from an unfinished frame or receiver.”.

This must be stopped, it will never hold up in court but it must not get that far.

tommyrp12
08-28-2018, 02:56 PM
This must be stopped, it will never hold up in court but it must not get that far.

Cody said it himself, they will destroy the first to get to the second. The AG here is fully on board with it too.

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Cody Wilson Press conference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=mFlAyxSRsOc

Swordsmyth
08-28-2018, 04:02 PM
The owner of a Texas company that makes untraceable 3D-printed guns said Tuesday that he has begun selling the blueprints through his website to anyone who wants to make one, despite a federal court order barring him from posting the plans online. Cody Wilson said at a news conference that he started selling the plans Tuesday morning and that he had already received nearly 400 orders. He said he'll sell the plans for as little as a penny to anyone in the U.S. who wants them.
"Anyone who wants to get these files is going to get them," Wilson said, noting he can only sell to U.S. customers. "They can name their own price."
Wilson said that blueprints purchased through his company's website could be downloaded on a thumb drive and shipped to buyers by standard mail, sent by email or sent by some other secure download transfer. Some of his first sales included purchases made with crypto currency, he said.
Nineteen states and the District of Columbia had sought an injunction to stop a settlement that the State Department reached with Wilson's Austin-based company, Defense Distributed, after the agency removed the 3D gun-making plans from a list of weapons or technical data that are not allowed to be exported. The states argued that online access to the undetectable plastic guns would pose a security risk and could be acquired by felons or terrorists.
On Monday, U.S. District Judge Robert Lasnik in Seattle blocked Defense Distributed from posting the blueprints online, saying, "It is the untraceable and undetectable nature of these small firearms that poses a unique danger."
Wilson said he believes the ruling allows him to sell the blueprints even if he can't post them online for free, widespread distribution.
"Regulation under the (law) means that the files cannot be uploaded to the internet, but they can be emailed, mailed, securely transmitted, or otherwise published within the United States," the ruling said on its final page.
"I'm following yesterday's orders that direct me to sell the files," Wilson said. "The judge was very gracious to put that in black lettering."

Wilson said he anticipates that states may try to sue to stop him from selling the plans, but that he is raising money for his legal defense. He also said he will continue to challenge the Monday court order.

More at: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/texan-says-hes-selling-3d-165534144.html

jllundqu
08-29-2018, 11:09 AM
Love this guy.

jllundqu
08-29-2018, 01:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BqlXIlkSoA

jllundqu
08-29-2018, 01:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ayHfaHCXQ

Swordsmyth
12-26-2018, 04:12 PM
Downloads of 3D-Printed Firearms Increase After Judge Tries to Stop Them (https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/31023-downloads-of-3d-printed-firearms-increase-after-judge-tries-to-stop-them)

Swordsmyth
09-09-2020, 03:48 PM
On 19 August 2020, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals reversed a Federal District court. The three-judge panel of the Fifth Circuit found the Attorney General of New Jersey is under Texas jurisdiction for this case. The case is Defense Distributed v. Grewal.

The finding allows a lawsuit filed against the New Jersey AG for violation of Defense Distributed First Amendment rights to publish computer code for 3D printed guns, to go forward.

Presumably, the discovery of Grewal's records on any discussion relevant to stop Defense Distributed from publishing will be allowed to continue.

AG Grewal can ask for an en banc hearing at the Fifth circuit. Failing that, he can appeal the ruling of the three-judge panel to the Supreme Court.

The ruling is a highly technical discussion about whether Grewal's conduct is sufficient to generate jurisdiction in Texas. All three judges agree that it is.

The dissent argues that Grewal, as an Attorney General, should be exempt from being sued in such a case. The case will continue.

With the resources of the State of New Jersey at his command, it is expected AG Grewal will use every opportunity to delay and derail this case. There will probably be a request for an en banc ruling, it will probably be denied and the case will be appealed to the Supreme Court. That will buy another year's delay for Grewal in his scheme to deny Defense Distributed First Amendment rights. A presidential election will take place before then.

If President Trump wins, Grewal's scheme will likely fail. AG Grewal has consistently worked to stop the settlement which was hammered out between the Trump administration and Defense Distributed.

If President Trump loses, a Biden-Harris administration will do everything they can to reinforce Grewal in his bid to stop Defense Distributed from exercising their First Amendment rights. A Biden-Harris administration will stop the settlement from going into effect, if it has not already been put in place.

The Fifth Circuit is saying AG Grewal of New Jersey may be personally liable for attacking the First Amendment rights of Defense Distributed.

It is an important finding. We will not know the results before the election, but the results may be of great significance for the nation.

More at: https://www.ammoland.com/2020/09/saf-and-defense-distributed-win-fifth-circuit-case-on-first-amendment-and-3d/#axzz6WMSxkbhW