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AuH20
07-10-2018, 06:06 PM
You do know who was blamed originally for this crime? ;)

http://www.newsweek.com/crime-elderly-brick-attack-california-los-angeles-1014457

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tod evans
07-10-2018, 06:12 PM
Old Latino Man Attacked in Shocking Hate Crime

Nothing that happens in cities is "shocking"..

Swordsmyth
07-10-2018, 07:20 PM
I blame the illegals.

Zippyjuan
07-10-2018, 07:27 PM
I blame the illegals.

You would be wrong.


The mother of the toddler pushed Rodriguez to the ground and began hitting him with a brick, KTLA-TV reported. Once he was on the ground, a group of men began to kick him, KNBC reported.

A witness who saw Rodriguez on the ground after the attack began recording with her cellphone and contacted police, KCBS-TV reported. The witness told the station that the female attacker told Rodriguez, who is a legal resident of the U.S., to go back to his country.

AuH20
07-10-2018, 07:28 PM
So this large black woman pummeled the old man with a brick allegedly. Like I have said many times before, Blacks and Latinos do not get along. They are culturally different and thrown on top of each other in congested setting. It's only natural that they would generate animosity and resentment towards each other.

Swordsmyth
07-10-2018, 07:34 PM
You would be wrong.

You just don't get it, if millions of illegals hadn't invaded then there wouldn't be this kind of resentment against perceived foreigners.

Obviously the attackers are at fault but the illegals share the blame.

Dr.3D
07-10-2018, 07:37 PM
So this large black woman pummeled the old man with a brick allegedly. Like I have said many times before, Blacks and Latinos do not get along. They are culturally different and thrown on top of each other. It's only natural that they would generate animosity towards each other.
I heard, several years ago, there was some sort of animosity because the Latinos were overcoming the Blacks as the minority-majority.

Here is something I found from the FNN....
https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/14/politics/kfile-steve-king-prediction/

Zippyjuan
07-10-2018, 07:40 PM
You just don't get it, if millions of illegals hadn't invaded then there wouldn't be this kind of resentment against perceived foreigners.

Obviously the attackers are at fault but the illegals share the blame.

One could also argue that if we banned old people the attack would never have happened. The country has always had immigrants and racists (not all racists are white). That does not justify beating a helpless old man.

http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-when-mexico-sends-its-people-they-re-not-sending-the-best-they-re-sending-people-that-donald-trump-136-79-16.jpg

https://i.imgflip.com/10qp89.jpg

Swordsmyth
07-10-2018, 07:44 PM
One could also argue that if we banned old people the attack would never have happened.

:rolleyes:



The country has always had immigrants and racists (not all racists are white).
What it hasn't always had is 20+ MILLION Illegals


That does not justify beating a helpless old man.
Of course not, nothing does, but some things increase the odds of such injustices and we can analyze them, since illegals should be kept/thrown out anyway then we can add this to the reasons to do so.

Zippyjuan
07-10-2018, 07:49 PM
What it hasn't always had is 20+ MILLION Illegals



We still don't have 20+ million illegals. And the victim was not illegal. Just an old man walking down the street not bothering anybody. There is no way to justify this.

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/04/25101222/FT_17.04.17_unauthorized_update_2015-1.png

Swordsmyth
07-10-2018, 07:56 PM
We still don't have 20+ million illegals. And the victim was not illegal.

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/04/25101222/FT_17.04.17_unauthorized_update_2015-1.png

By Rick Oltman, August 9,2016
According to the U.S. Census Bureau’s population clock (http://www.census.gov/popclock/), the current population of the United States is approaching 325 million people. One presumes that it includes the “official” current estimate of illegal aliens of 11 million. Of course, that number is ridiculously low if you calculate the U.S. Border Patrol’s apprehension for the last 30 years, from 1985-2015. Over that thirty year period, the Border Patrol apprehended 31,373,128 illegal aliens (https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/documents/BP%20Southwest%20Border%20Sector%20Apps%20FY1960%2 0-%20FY2015.pdf) along the southern border, alone. That does not include those apprehended on the East Coast coming from Cuba, the Bahamas, Haiti, Jamaica or the other Caribbean Islands. It doesn’t include numbers from the northern border with Canada and it doesn’t include those who overstayed their visas, thereby becoming illegal aliens. (“Visa overstays” are often, incorrectly, referred to as 40% of all illegal aliens. Nobody really knows, because the U.S. still doesn’t keep track of those who have entered legally on a visa. But, that percentage isn’t close.)
For years, the Border Patrol (BP) officially used to report the “gotaway” rate, those who “got away” from apprehension. For decades, it was felt that on a “good day,” the Border Patrol caught one in five illegal aliens, on a “bad day,” the number was one in seven. That means that if every single day since 1985 was a “good day,” then for every one they caught, four “got away.”
4 x 31,373,128 = 125,492,512 illegal border crossings in the past 30 years. And, that’s just across the southern border. But now, no more “gotaway rate.”
Retired Congressman Tom Tancredo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Tancredo), a good friend and ally in our fight to get our immigration laws enforced during the last two years of the Clinton Administration and all of the Bush Administration, had a good piece on Breitbart, August 6, titled, “Border Patrol to Illegals: Don’t Get Caught.” (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/06/border-patrol-illegals-dont-get-caught/)
He reports:
“… Obama’s Border Patrol has officially abandoned the use of the “Gotaway” number in weekly and quarterly reports of apprehensions. For decades, the Border Patrol routinely compiled and reported the Gotaway number as a supplement to the number of actual apprehensions.


Border Patrol agents knew and openly admitted that the number of illegal border crossers apprehended was only a fraction of the number of border jumpers.
Veterans and CBP retirees remember when that Gotaway number was three to four times the official apprehension number.
The nonpartisan Congressional Research Service recently calculated the Gotaway number to be at least 1.5. Translated, that means the number of successful illegal entries is at least 150 percent above the number apprehended by the Border Patrol.”

Now, there is absolutely no reason to believe any number coming out of the federal government. The Congressional Research Service number of 1.5 gotaways is laughable.
And, the number of illegal aliens in the country isn’t 125 million. There were multiple crossings by many people for years. I’ve heard of Border Patrol agents catching the same guy 6 or 8 times back in the 80s and 90s. They didn’t finger print the illegals they caught for many years. They didn’t have computers back then, and when they finally did get computers, they weren’t linked together for several more years. The various sectors couldn’t share the names, pictures and descriptions of those caught. After about half a dozen arrests, followed by detention time, the illegal would just shift to another sector where the agents wouldn’t know him by sight. If he was coming through at El Paso, Texas, or El Centro, California, he would just move over a couple hundred miles and come across in the Tucson sector.
While the number of illegal aliens in the country isn’t 125 million, it isn’t the laughable 11 million number, either. That estimate is absolutely not credible. Retired sector chiefs have opined that it could be 40 million, or higher. One recently said it could be as high as 50 million. But, he added, “they” (the federal government) don’t know, and they don’t want to know.
And if the 40-50 million estimate is close to the real number, that makes the population of the United States closer to 360-370 million, without even adding in the “visa overstays” or those sneaking in from Canada or the Caribbean.

More at: https://usinc.org/whats-real-number-illegal-aliens-country/

Zippyjuan
07-10-2018, 08:01 PM
Now, there is absolutely no reason to believe any number coming out of the federal government. The Congressional Research Service number of 1.5 gotaways is laughable.

Using government numbers to try to claim government numbers are always wrong? Also notes that there are multi-crossers in their numbers. "Apprehensions at the border" are the ones caught. Multiple times. His estimates also don't include people who did enter the country but may have left again. Many come and work for a while, earn some money, and go back home. He uses one anonymous person's "guesstimate".


One recently said it could be as high as 50 million.

Swordsmyth
07-10-2018, 08:04 PM
Using government numbers to try to claim government numbers are always wrong? Also notes that there are multi-crossers in their numbers. "Apprehensions at the border" are the ones caught. Multiple times. His estimates also don't include people who did enter the country but may have left again. Many come and work for a while, earn some money, and go back home.

Which is why he cuts the estimate down to 40-50 million and why I cut it down to 20+ million.
11.3 is laughable.

Zippyjuan
07-10-2018, 08:08 PM
Which is why he cuts the estimate down to 40-50 million and why I cut it down to 20+ million.
11.3 is laughable.

Laughable is also blaming the attack on immigrants.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/01/news/la-pn-ron-paul-nevada-latino-forum-20120201


"I believe Hispanics have been used as scapegoats, to say, they're the problem instead of being a symptom maybe of a problem with the welfare state," Paul told the group. "In Nazi Germany they had to have scapegoats to blame and they turned on the Jews.

I have posted this quote from Ron Paul several times before.

Swordsmyth
07-10-2018, 08:10 PM
Laughable is also blaming the attack on immigrants.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/01/news/la-pn-ron-paul-nevada-latino-forum-20120201



I have posted this quote from Ron Paul several times before.

I didn't blame "immigrants", I blamed ILLEGAL immigrants, they deserve a small portion of the blame because they did something wrong that contributed.

Zippyjuan
07-10-2018, 08:11 PM
I didn't blame "immigrants", I blamed ILLEGAL immigrants, they deserve a small portion of the blame because they did something wrong that contributed.

No, they didn't.

Your post quality has dropped off significantly lately.

phill4paul
07-10-2018, 08:12 PM
This shit between n.i.g.g.e.r.s happened in a city?

Don't fucking care.

Swordsmyth
07-10-2018, 08:13 PM
No, they didn't.

Your post quality has dropped off significantly lately.
When you invade a foreign country it creates resentment.

Dr.3D
07-10-2018, 08:17 PM
Which is why he cuts the estimate down to 40-50 million and why I cut it down to 20+ million.
11.3 is laughable.
The cause of this particular incident is perhaps racial in that the Black person might resent the Latino person because the Latino's are taking over as the minority-majority.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/02/26/when-will-minorities-majority/9v5m1Jj8hdGcXvpXtbQT5I/story.html

Swordsmyth
07-10-2018, 08:21 PM
The cause of this particular incident is perhaps racial in that the Black person might resent the Latino person because the Latino's are taking over as the minority-majority.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/02/26/when-will-minorities-majority/9v5m1Jj8hdGcXvpXtbQT5I/story.html

And the two cultures don't tend to get along well anyway, whites tend to get along better with other races than other races get along with eachother.

AuH20
07-10-2018, 08:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-WLx8eKFxI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvFrtTXoZ1s

Brian4Liberty
07-10-2018, 10:52 PM
You would be wrong.

The video report says he is visiting from Mexico.

https://www.nsfwyoutube.com/watch?v=nmiemPHS_ss

And screw all of this Marxist racist BS.

They are all humans, and one very easily could have murdered another for no reason. She should be charged with attempted murder. Race should not be a factor. And the cowards who helped attack him? Maximum charges for them too.

Brian4Liberty
07-10-2018, 10:53 PM
I blame the illegals.

Ridiculous.

Swordsmyth
07-10-2018, 11:02 PM
Ridiculous.

Of course the attackers bear the primary responsibility but there wouldn't be this kind of resentment without 20+ million illegals invading the country.

Brian4Liberty
07-10-2018, 11:03 PM
You do know who was blamed originally for this crime? ;)


Ron Paul?

You need to put the entire URL for Tweets below the embedded Tweet. The embed pic does not work on all platforms.

Brian4Liberty
07-10-2018, 11:07 PM
Of course the attackers bear the primary responsibility but there wouldn't be this kind of resentment without 20+ million illegals invading the country.

Responsibility starts and ends with her. The media creates resentment among people with or without immigration.

Madison320
07-11-2018, 12:24 PM
You do know who was blamed originally for this crime? ;)

http://www.newsweek.com/crime-elderly-brick-attack-california-los-angeles-1014457

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Not one news article mentions the race of the attacker. Imagine if a white woman had done that to a 92 year old black man.

angelatc
07-11-2018, 01:45 PM
There is no way to justify this.



This works quite well in a child's sing-song taunt rhythm: Zippy is a racist!

specsaregood
07-11-2018, 01:48 PM
Not one news article mentions the race of the attacker. Imagine if a white woman had done that to a 92 year old black man.

I guess one could argue that them not mentioning it is racist, since everybody is left to assume the attacker is black.

shakey1
07-11-2018, 02:16 PM
Responsibility starts and ends with her. The media creates resentment among people with or without immigration.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Brian4Liberty
07-12-2018, 10:25 AM
Not a "hate" crime.


A 30-year-old woman has been arrested in the vicious Fourth of July beating of a man in his 90s who was walking in the Willowbrook neighborhood of South Los Angeles, authorities announced Wednesday, saying the incident was not "hate related."

Laquisha Jones, a resident of L.A., was taken into custody without incident near 60th Street and Crenshaw Avenue about 10 p.m. Tuesday, after investigators obtained search and arrest warrants, the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department stated in a news release.

Jones has been booked on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon and is being held on $200,000 bail, the Sheriff’s Department stated. Her booking photo is not being released, authorities said.
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A witness to the attack told CNN she saw a woman striking Rodriguez with the block and overheard her saying, “Go back to your country. Go back to Mexico.”

But detectives have determined through the investigation that the beating was "not a hate related incident," according to the release. The weapon has not been located, authorities said.
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More: https://ktla.com/2018/07/11/woman-arrested-in-violent-fourth-of-july-attack-on-grandfather-in-willowbrook/

pcosmar
07-12-2018, 10:32 AM
Like I have said many times before, Blacks and Latinos do not get along. They are culturally different and thrown on top of each other in congested setting. It's only natural that they would generate animosity and resentment towards each other.

Bullshit.

It is learned and /or Instigated behavior..

You obviously haven't traveled much and base you opinion on very narrow horizons. I know of no such animosity in the Islands..

folks think that their town is the whole world. :rolleyes:

dannno
07-12-2018, 11:14 AM
Not a "hate" crime.

https://stimhack.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/mal.gif

shakey1
07-12-2018, 11:20 AM
... the motive then?

Schifference
07-12-2018, 11:30 AM
Is it worse to beat and break the ribs of a 92 year old Latino or a sitting Senator?

Which perpetrator will receive a stiffer penalty?

Swordsmyth
07-12-2018, 01:51 PM
Not a "hate" crime.


https://stimhack.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/mal.gif


... the motive then?

Didn't you get the memo? Only whites can hate.

Brian4Liberty
07-12-2018, 03:21 PM
Is it worse to beat and break the ribs of a 92 year old Latino or a sitting Senator?

Which perpetrator will receive a stiffer penalty?

Excellent question. One was politically charged, the other racially charged. Of course that is denied in both cases.

They charged her with assault with a deadly weapon. Probably the bigger crime, as Rand's neighbor used no weapon other than gravity and momentum. While many (on the left) laughed about one case, the other case will be swept under the rug.

Wooden Indian
07-12-2018, 05:40 PM
My initial thoughts, based on what I saw on this can be broken into three points.

1. Beating an old man is awfully hard to justify and would require more than accidentally bumping into my kid. Unless something major is missing from the story, this woman is trash.

2. "Legal Resident" does not equal citizenship. It infers he has greencard.

3. A non-citizen that doesn't speak the language, at his advancd age, bumbling around in public (likely with dementia)... does NOT speak well of the person/family that brought him here and is highly irresponsible.

Swordsmyth
07-14-2018, 10:51 PM
A woman accused of severely injuring a 92-year-old man with a brick is now facing charges of attempted murder and elder abuse, prosecutors said.
Laquisha Jones, 30, allegedly attacked the elderly man with a brick south of Los Angeles on July 4, the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office said.

More at: https://abcnews.go.com/US/woman-charged-attempted-murder-allegedly-beating-92-year/story?id=56570806

Anti Federalist
07-15-2018, 02:34 AM
Beating an old man is awfully hard to justify and would require more than accidentally bumping into my kid. Unless something major is missing from the story, this woman is trash.

Poor impulse control.

Just the other day, four black women beat, stabbed and robbed an Applebee's waitress for bumping into one of them. (https://www.vibe.com/2018/07/applebees-waitress-attacked-georgia/)

This lack of impulse control, the violent lashing out at every slight or perceived "diss" is the primary cause for the homicidal and poverty ridden nightmare that are many black communities, even after 50 years and trillions of dollars of aid.

And of course there are no hate crime charges...in spite of this poor old fellow's lack of English skills or the country of origin, the fact is, looking at him, that his ethnicity is white.

Critical Race Theory, upon which the very concept of "hate crimes" is based, holds that it is impossible for colored people to be racist. (http://hlrecord.org/2016/02/racism-justified-a-critical-look-at-critical-race-theory/)