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phill4paul
06-26-2018, 04:54 PM
Shouldn't Canada just take all that cheap foreign steel they can handle? They'd be an economic powerhouse with huge gains across all sectors! :rolleyes:


The Canadian government is preparing new measures to prevent a potential flood of steel imports from global producers seeking to avoid U.S. tariffs, according to people familiar with the plans. The Canadian dollar weakened and shares in Stelco Holdings Inc. soared.

The measures are said to be a combination of quotas and tariffs aimed at certain countries including China, said the people, asking not to be identified because the matter isn’t public. The moves follow similar “safeguard” measures being considered by the European Union aimed at warding off steel that might otherwise have been sent to the U.S. It comes alongside Canadian counter-tariffs on U.S. steel, aluminum and other products set to kick in on July 1.

The steps intensify the fallout from U.S. President Donald Trump’s trade fight, in particular U.S. tariffs of 25 percent on steel and 10 percent on aluminum that hit Canada, the EU and other nations. The moves have prompted retaliation from the U.S.’s biggest trading partners, and forced companies like Harley-Davidson Inc. to shift production.


The Canadian measures are expected to include new quotas on certain steel imports to prevent dumping, with tariffs applied above that threshold, the people said. The announcement could come as early as next week, though the government hasn’t finalized its plans, the people said. A spokesman for Finance Minister Bill Morneau declined to comment. Representatives for Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland, who handles U.S. trade issues, didn’t immediately return requests for comment.

Imports Data
Canadian steel imports in 2017 totaled $9 billion, according to U.S. data, with 55 percent of that coming from the U.S. The next biggest sources of Canadian steel are China, South Korea, Brazil and Turkey, the data show.

The U.S. steel tariffs open the door to a potential flood of cheap imports, said Sean Donnelly, chief executive officer of ArcelorMittal Dofasco, the Canadian unit of ArcelorMittal of Luxembourg.

“We must be able to operate in an un-distorted, market-based competitive environment,” Donnelly told lawmakers at a parliamentary committee in Ottawa Tuesday. “Canada’s response to past and future threats from unfairly traded and diverted offshore imports is critical.”

Steel groups have been pressing for safeguard measures, which could be applied provisionally pending an investigation. Joseph Galimberti, president of the Canadian Steel Producers Association, said his members are seeing the impacts of steel diversion in Canada’s market. The industry group’s members include ArcelorMittal Dofasco, Stelco Holdings Inc., Essar Steel Algoma Inc. and others.

Stelco, one of the few publicly traded steel producers in Canada, jumped as much as 2.5 percent in Toronto and was up 1.7 percent to C$25.90 at 12:36 p.m while Alcoa Corp. rose 2.6 percent to $45.40. The loonie erased gains, weakening 0.1 percent to 75.13 U.S cents.

“We are entirely supportive of the safeguard as an appropriate measure and have been working with government to provide them the commercial information they need to proceed as appropriate,” he said in an email Tuesday.

Residential Turmoil
Any additional tariffs enacted on foreign steel will have a ripple effect on the Canadian economy and raise costs in the already-crunched housing sector.

Only a handful of companies produce steel in the country and construction companies, steel fabricators and developers rely on imports for various types of steel including those used for residential building such as rebar.

“Construction companies and owners will have to pay more in the short-term out of their own pockets,” Richard Lyall, president of the Residential Construction Council of Ontario, said in a phone interview. “It’s a hit that can affect risk profile and pro formas for future projects, which can have a chilling effect on the market. But the medium to longer term is consumers will get hit by this.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-26/canada-said-to-prepare-steel-quotas-tariffs-on-china-others?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=bd&utm_campaign=headline&cmpId=yhoo.headline&yptr=yahoo

oyarde
06-26-2018, 04:58 PM
Junk chinese steel .

Brian4Liberty
06-26-2018, 05:00 PM
Another tax on Canadian citizens. Will this help them?

Swordsmyth
06-26-2018, 05:11 PM
Now that we won't let them pump Chinese steel into America and take a profit they don't want to let it flood their market.

Swordsmyth
06-28-2018, 07:42 PM
Canada will hit back against U.S. tariffs on its steel and aluminum by offering affected companies and workers up to C$800 million ($603 million) in aid, a source familiar with the matter said on Thursday. Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland will make an announcement in the steel city of Hamilton at 11 a.m. ET (1500 GMT) on Friday.


The source said the assistance - to be spread over several years - would be similar to an C$867 million five-year package offered to Canadian softwood lumber producers in 2017 after Washington imposed tariffs.
That took the form of loans, loan guarantees, commercial financing and support to help firms expand overseas markets. It also included money to help affected workers learn new skills and provided support for work-sharing agreements.
The source did not say which steel and aluminum firms would be in line for help. Companies with operations in Canada include Evraz Plc, Rio Tinto Plc, Algoma Acquisition Corp, Essar Steel Algoma Inc, ArcelorMittal SA and Alcoa Corp.

More at: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/28/reuters-america-update-2-canada-to-aid-steel-aluminum-industries-hit-by-u-s-tariffs-source.html

Anti Federalist
06-28-2018, 07:49 PM
How about some regulatory relief and tariffs on Canadian seafood products to boost US commercial fisherman's prospects.

Maybe start by "un-fatwa-ing" Obama's fatwas that declared thousands of square nautical miles "off limits" to fishing?

Anti Federalist
06-28-2018, 07:54 PM
Junk chinese steel .

Looking out my window right now at a half a billion dollars worth of idle vessels, due to the fact that cheap construction and shit Chinese steel rendered them useless after lasting half the time a US flagged and constructed vessel is expected to last.

The company lost 1.5 billion because of the Harvard educated geniuses that thought that was good idea and went bankrupt because of it.

Swordsmyth
06-28-2018, 07:56 PM
How about some regulatory relief and tariffs on Canadian seafood products to boost US commercial fisherman's prospects.

Maybe start by "un-fatwa-ing" Obama's fatwas that declared thousands of square nautical miles "off limits" to fishing?

It's a start:

Trump Administration Cancels New Protection for Endangered Whales, Marine Mammals & (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?523376-Trump-Administration-Cancels-New-Protection-for-Endangered-Whales-Marine-Mammals-amp-Sea-Turtle&highlight=trump+fishing)

oyarde
06-28-2018, 08:04 PM
Looking out my window right now at a half a billion dollars worth of idle vessels, due to the fact that cheap construction and shit Chinese steel rendered them useless after lasting half the time a US flagged and constructed vessel is expected to last.

The company lost 1.5 billion because of the Harvard educated geniuses that thought that was good idea and went bankrupt because of it.

I find it baffling . Any one experience with that by a person and they should know better after .

Anti Federalist
06-28-2018, 08:04 PM
It's a start:

Trump Administration Cancels New Protection for Endangered Whales, Marine Mammals & (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?523376-Trump-Administration-Cancels-New-Protection-for-Endangered-Whales-Marine-Mammals-amp-Sea-Turtle&highlight=trump+fishing)

See, this is what I'm talking about.

This is a good thing, and relief from a very onerous set of regulations that hamper and hamstring fishing efforts every day.

I have never been a Trump booster, was very opposed in fact, and the record here shows that.

But facts are facts, he's moving the ball forward, consistently, in spite of setbacks, fumbles and a scatterbrained "drunken monkey" approach to things that to this day baffles me.

So good, another gold star, and now to the point where I'd entertain voting Trump 2020.

If he nominates Mike Lee or somebody similar for the SCROTUS, I think that would seal the deal.