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Swordsmyth
06-21-2018, 05:02 PM
First Lady Melania Trump made an unannounced visit to a Texas social services center on Thursday amid a crisis over migrant children who have been forcibly separated from their parents as part of the DOJ's "zero-tolerance" enforcement of preexisting laws.
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/charming.JPG

. @FLOTUS (https://twitter.com/FLOTUS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) gets tour of kids’ rooms, notes how tidy they keep them pic.twitter.com/E5m90zbp1A (https://t.co/E5m90zbp1A)
— Kate Bennett (@KateBennett_DC) June 21, 2018 (https://twitter.com/KateBennett_DC/status/1009838641437437954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) "I'm glad I'm here and I'm looking forward to seeing the children," said the First Lady at a roundtable with doctors and other employees of the Upbring New Hope Children's Center, which is a subsidiary of Lutheran Social Services of the South.
"But first of all, let me begin to recognize each of you and thanking you for all that you do, for your heroic work that you do every day and what you do for those children. We all know they're here without their families, and I want to thank you for your hard work."

Texas border facility employee debunks fake news about minors being unhappy: "It is really a home for the children...as you will see the children and see the smiles on their faces and you'll hear them giggle." pic.twitter.com/9XyUngfpxH (https://t.co/9XyUngfpxH)
— Josh Caplan (@joshdcaplan) June 21, 2018 (https://twitter.com/joshdcaplan/status/1009839967953092608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Children at a facility caring for detained children made Melania a paper American flag - which she signs

(AP Photo/Andrew Harnik) pic.twitter.com/PgYq59JOco (https://t.co/PgYq59JOco)
— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) June 21, 2018 (https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/1009854601724616704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/so%20happy%20so%20nice.JPG
Her visit comes one day after President Trump signed an executive order which would end the controversial practice of separating children from parents who cross the border illegally - a longstanding practice (https://law2.arizona.edu/depts/bacon_program/pdf/Unseen_Prisoners.pdf) under prior administrations (https://www.acluaz.org/sites/default/files/documents/detention%20report%202011.pdf) - which was supercharged by the Trump administration's new "zero tolerance" enforcement policies.

My Administration is acting swiftly to address the illegal immigration crisis on the Southern Border. Loopholes in our immigration laws all supported by extremist open border Democrats...and that's what they are - they're extremist open border Democrats.... pic.twitter.com/F73I5gu0Q5 (https://t.co/F73I5gu0Q5)
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 21, 2018 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1009844059211366401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) Trump said Melania "is down now at the border because it really bothered her to be looking at this and to seeing it, as it bothered me, as it bothered everybody at this table."

"@FLOTUS (https://twitter.com/FLOTUS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) is down now at the border because it really bothered her to be looking at this and to seeing it, as it bothered me, as it bothered everybody at this table."

WATCH: President @realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) speaks discusses immigration at Cabinet meeting - Part 1. pic.twitter.com/bK1oQlVmAw (https://t.co/bK1oQlVmAw)
— Fox News (@FoxNews) June 21, 2018 (https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1009853455379369987?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) To that end, Trump ordered U.S. agencies to reunite separated migrant families on Thursday.
“I’m directing HHS, DHS, DOJ to work together to keep illegal immigrant families together during the immigration process and reunite these previously separated groups,”’ Trump said.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-21/melania-sent-border-charm-offensive-trump-promises-reunite-separated-families

oyarde
06-21-2018, 05:35 PM
america is not used to a classy first lady , so the liberal media will respond in a negative way while the time magazine cover gets trump more votes .

Zippyjuan
06-21-2018, 07:03 PM
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Did Melania Trump Wear This Jacket When Visiting Children Separated from Their Families?

The First Lady made a surprise visit to detained immigrant children while wearing a jacket bearing the message "I DON'T REALLY CARE DO U?" on the back.

CLAIM
First Lady Melania Trump visited immigrant kids wearing a jacket with "I DON'T REALLY CARE DO U?" emblazoned on the back.

RATING
TRUE

ORIGIN
On 21 June 2018, First Lady Melania Trump paid a surprise visit to immigrant children detained under a Trump administration policy to separate families at the border. Shortly thereafter, the news of her visit was eclipsed by discussion stemming from social media images of a jacket she was purportedly wearing as she boarded her plane:

The First Lady’s army-green jacket with a painted design on the back reading “I REALLY DON’T CARE DO U?” quickly became the dominant topic of news and social media. CNN’s Jim Acosta quickly confirmed that the photographs were legitimate, and the article of clothing Mrs. Trump wore was real.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/melania-trump-wear-jacket-visiting-children-separated-families/

Zippyjuan
06-21-2018, 07:06 PM
A few days ago: https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/politics/melania-trump-children-separated-immigration/index.html


Melania Trump 'hates to see' children separated from their families at borders

In a rare statement on a policy issue, first lady Melania Trump weighed in through her spokeswoman on the immigration crisis taking place at America's borders.

"Mrs. Trump hates to see children separated from their families and hopes both sides of the aisle can finally come together to achieve successful immigration reform," her communications director, Stephanie Grisham, told CNN on Sunday. "She believes we need to be a country that follows all laws, but also a country that governs with heart."

Trump, who has made helping children the crux of her official "Be Best" platform as first lady, had yet to discuss the state of families and immigration, a topic that has been prominent in headlines for days.

A Trump administration policy now charges every adult caught crossing the border illegally with federal crimes, as opposed to referring those with children mainly to immigration courts, as previous administrations did. Because the government is charging the parents in the criminal justice system, children are separated from them, without a clear procedure for their reunification aside from hotlines the parents can call to try to track their children down.

The policy to refer all adults for charges was publicly announced May 7, but the Justice Department announced it would prosecute 100% of the cases referred to it at the beginning of April.

Nearly 2,000 children have been separated from their parents and guardians and placed into holding facilities between April 19 and May 31 of this year, Department of Homeland Security spokesman Jonathan Hoffman told reporters Friday on a conference call.

The public outcry in the wake of images and stories of the children caught in the middle of the controversial immigration policy has sparked fierce debate.

President Donald Trump has repeatedly blamed the Democrats for the situation despite his administration instituting the policy change.


Perhaps she is why he changed his position on the issue. More at link.

Swordsmyth
06-21-2018, 07:11 PM
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/melania-trump-wear-jacket-visiting-children-separated-families/

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timosman
06-21-2018, 07:12 PM
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Is that Zippy?

Swordsmyth
06-21-2018, 07:24 PM
Is that Zippy?

He certainly acts the same.

euphemia
06-21-2018, 07:26 PM
Just reminding everyone Melania is an immigrant herself. Maybe she needs to tell her story and show how unjust the system really is.

Zippyjuan
06-21-2018, 07:55 PM
Just reminding everyone Melania is an immigrant herself. Maybe she needs to tell her story and show how unjust the system really is.

His mother was a child immigrant- 17 when she left Scotland- with a bunch of other immigrants and her sister (who had come to America previously) for the US to look for work. Her sister brought her. Chain migration. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-38648877

His grandfather came to the US as a teenager too- from Germany. He spoke little English and allegedly ran away to avoid compulsory military service. His was "chain migration" as well- he came to join his sister here. https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2018/01/15/the-president-in-1885-didnt-stop-immigrant-friedrich-trump-from-coming-to-america/#6fb14139e49a


The 16-year-old Friedrich Trump, who spoke little English, would not have hopped on a ship and came to America without a family member already in place to help him. In 1885, when Friedrich immigrated, he joined his sister Katherine, who “had immigrated to New York a year earlier,” according to Gwenda Blair.

Neither mentions travelling with parents so they would have been "unaccompanied minors".

Trump's first wife was from Czechoslovakia. She married an Austrian ski instructor only to get a visa to the US and divorced shortly after getting here. She did not become a citizen until 11 years after she married Trump.

Swordsmyth
06-21-2018, 08:02 PM
His mother was a child immigrant- 17 when she left Scotland- with a bunch of other immigrants and her sister (who had come to America previously) for the US to look for work. Her sister brought her. Chain migration. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-38648877

His grandfather came to the US as a teenager too- from Germany. He spoke little English and allegedly ran away to avoid compulsory military service. His was "chain migration" as well- he came to join his sister here. https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2018/01/15/the-president-in-1885-didnt-stop-immigrant-friedrich-trump-from-coming-to-america/#6fb14139e49a



Neither mentions travelling with parents so they would have been "unaccompanied minors".

Trump's first wife was from Czechoslovakia. She married an Austrian ski instructor only to get a visa to the US and divorced shortly after getting here. She did not become a citizen until 11 years after she married Trump.

Irrelevant.
Trump is POTUS and has responsibility to pursue the correct policy for Americans no matter what his background or his relatives' backgrounds are.

Zippyjuan
06-21-2018, 08:05 PM
Irrelevant.
Trump is POTUS and has responsibility to pursue the correct policy for Americans no matter what his background or his relatives' backgrounds are.

If Trump got what Trump wanted, Trump would not have allowed any of his ancestors into the country. He would never have the chance to become POTUS.

Aratus
06-21-2018, 08:07 PM
If she narrowcasting aimed the message at Peter Fonda to set him off some more, it backfired...

Swordsmyth
06-21-2018, 08:09 PM
If Trump got what Trump wanted, Trump would not have allowed any of his ancestors into the country. He would never have the chance to become POTUS.
Irrelevant.
The policies were not in place and Trump is POTUS, doing the wrong thing in the past is not a reason to keep doing it in the present and future.

Swordsmyth
06-21-2018, 08:26 PM
President Trump tweeted his own explanation for his wife’s wardrobe choice, claiming that there was, in fact, a message, and it was directed toward “the fake news media.”
“I REALLY DON’T CARE, DO U?” written on the back of Melania’s jacket, refers to the Fake News Media. Melania has learned how dishonest they are, and she truly no longer cares!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 21, 2018 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1009916650622251009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


More at: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/donald-trump-says-melanias-jacket-message-fake-news-spokeswoman-said-no-hidden-message-223103253.html


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Zippyjuan
06-21-2018, 08:27 PM
Irrelevant.
The policies were not in place and Trump is POTUS, doing the wrong thing in the past is not a reason to keep doing it in the present and future.

He was lucky the President at the time changed the laws.


On March 9, 1897, Grover Cleveland vetoed a broad immigration bill that would have excluded any immigrant to the U.S. who could not read and write. In his veto message, he called the legislation “a radical departure from our national policy” on immigration.

“We have encouraged those coming from foreign countries to cast their lot with us and join in the development of our vast domain, securing in return a share in the blessings of American citizenship,” declared Cleveland. “A century's stupendous growth, largely due to the assimilation and thrift of millions of sturdy and patriotic adopted citizens, attests the success of this generous and free-handed policy which, while guarding the people's interests, exacts from our immigrants only physical and moral soundness and a willingness and ability to work.”

President Cleveland warned the threat to the American people came not from immigrants without education, but from a skillful communicator: “In my opinion, it is infinitely more safe to admit a hundred thousand immigrants who, though unable to read and write, seek among us only a home and opportunity to work than to admit one of those unruly agitators . . . who can not only read and write, but delights in arousing by inflammatory speech the illiterate and peacefully inclined to discontent and tumult.”

During World War I, German immigrants and German-Americans like the Trumps became a focus of hostility. “The fury that broke upon the German-Americans in 1915 represented the most spectacular reversal of judgment in the history of American nativism,” wrote John Higham in Strangers in the Land. In what sounds strikingly similar to Donald Trump’s claim that “thousands” of Muslims in New Jersey celebrated the attacks of 9/11, Higham writes, “By August there was common talk that German-Americans were rejoicing over the death of American citizens on torpedoed ships.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2018/01/15/the-president-in-1885-didnt-stop-immigrant-friedrich-trump-from-coming-to-america/#20dbc48e49a9

timosman
06-21-2018, 08:50 PM
President Trump tweeted his own explanation for his wife’s wardrobe choice, claiming that there was, in fact, a message, and it was directed toward “the fake news media.”
“I REALLY DON’T CARE, DO U?” written on the back of Melania’s jacket, refers to the Fake News Media. Melania has learned how dishonest they are, and she truly no longer cares!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 21, 2018 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1009916650622251009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


More at: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/donald-trump-says-melanias-jacket-message-fake-news-spokeswoman-said-no-hidden-message-223103253.html


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Melania doesn't speak too much but she can send a message.:cool:

Swordsmyth
06-21-2018, 09:20 PM
According to a new Rasmussen poll, a majority of Americans blame illegal immigrant parents for the child crisis on the border over the U.S. government.
The media has put a hyper focus on the separation of families at the border over the last several weeks, leading President Donald Trump to sign an executive order ending the separation. Current U.S. law does not allow families to be detained together if the parents are referred for prosecution for illegal border crossing.
However, the Rasmussen poll (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/june_2018/voters_blame_parents_not_feds_for_border_children_ crisis) shows that Americans don’t blame the Trump administration for the approximately 2,000 children who have been separated from their parents.
54 percent of likely voters polled by Rasmussen said that they think the parents are more to blame for breaking the law.
Only 35 percent said the government is more to blame for the crisis.
Further, 54 percent of voting Americans agree with President Trump’s assertion that “The United States will not be a migrant camp. And it will not be a refugee-holding facility — it won’t be.”
The survey of 1000 likely voters was conducted on June 19-20.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/21/rasmussen-parents-to-blame-border-crisis/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=idealmedia&utm_campaign=dailycaller.com&utm_term=68856&utm_content=1

timosman
06-21-2018, 09:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8

enhanced_deficit
06-21-2018, 11:31 PM
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Gone are the days when we used to have FLOTUS who cared.



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Swordsmyth
06-21-2018, 11:39 PM
Gone are the days when we used to have FLOTUS who cared.



http://blogs.tallahassee.com/community/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/nigeria_michelle_obama_460.jpg

Another one:

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enhanced_deficit
06-21-2018, 11:47 PM
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If you're going to post a gif, at least make it inspiring or with a higher purpose.


From best of the best surrounded by the best series.. dedicated to esteemed Ben Carson.


https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/indy100/b1jybH0mFx/18137-z3qevt.gif

devil21
06-21-2018, 11:47 PM
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You don't think that's, at the very least, a bizarre choice of clothing and something that would be readily seen and commented on? They have teams of people whose only job is to manage the appearance of POTUS and FLOTUS. I find it very hard to believe that Melania and her team would be so clueless as to think that's an ok outfit for the occasion. I'm much more inclined to think it is the truth in plain sight and so they can watch (and gauge) the Trumpers deny what is staring them right in the face. How effective is our PR show? Yes, ignore what your eyes and ears tell you. Ignore it.

Swordsmyth
06-21-2018, 11:50 PM
You don't think that's, at the very least, a bizarre choice of clothing and something that would be readily seen and commented on? They have teams of people whose only job is to manage the appearance of POTUS and FLOTUS. I find it very hard to believe that Melania and her team would be so clueless as to think that's an ok outfit for the occasion. I'm much more inclined to think it is the truth in plain sight and so they can watch (and gauge) the Trumpers deny what is staring them right in the face. The PR show. Yes, ignore what your eyes and ears tell you. Ignore it.
They did choose it on purpose, they have every TDS victim in the country chasing the laser dot.

Swordsmyth
06-21-2018, 11:52 PM
If you're going to post a gif, at least make it inspiring or with a higher purpose.


From best of the best surrounded by the best series.. dedicated to esteemed Ben Carson.


https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/indy100/b1jybH0mFx/18137-z3qevt.gif

I don't think you understand my point, you are chasing the laser dot that Trump wants you to chase.

devil21
06-21-2018, 11:57 PM
They did choose it on purpose, they have every TDS victim in the country chasing the laser dot.

I don't buy it but for the sake of argument, if that is the reason then shame on her for such a tasteless display that is unbecoming of the office. If this is what our governance has truly devolved into, then one must wonder if the goal isn't to purposely degrade the office. That couldn't be it, could it?

enhanced_deficit
06-21-2018, 11:57 PM
I don't think you understand my point, you are chasing the laser dot that Trump wants you to chase.

You might be confusing me with the media.

During all this media circus, I doubt you have seen this care message pointed out by any of the dot chasers. Quoted post was just used as a segue.

http://blogs.tallahassee.com/community/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/nigeria_michelle_obama_460.jpg

Swordsmyth
06-22-2018, 12:03 AM
I don't buy it but for the sake of argument, if that is the reason then shame on her for such a tasteless display that is unbecoming of the office. If this is what our governance has truly devolved into, then one must wonder if the goal isn't to purposely degrade the office. That couldn't be it, could it?
Perhaps ending an undue reverence for government is not such a bad thing?

timosman
06-22-2018, 12:05 AM
I don't buy it but for the sake of argument, if that is the reason then shame on her for such a tasteless display that is unbecoming of the office. If this is what our governance has truly devolved into, then one must wonder if the goal isn't to purposely degrade the office. That couldn't be it, could it?

Obama did pretty good job at degrading the office. It is going to be hard to top that.

eleganz
06-22-2018, 02:26 AM
If you're going to post a gif, at least make it inspiring or with a higher purpose.


From best of the best surrounded by the best series.. dedicated to esteemed Ben Carson.


https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/indy100/b1jybH0mFx/18137-z3qevt.gif


This was the moment I decided not to take politics as seriously and looked at it more like entertainment and I've been happier ever since.

Really though, Trump is pretty funny and willing to do some whacky ass shit, one of the reasons people wanted to vote for him.

devil21
06-22-2018, 09:51 AM
Perhaps ending an undue reverence for government is not such a bad thing?

There are better ways to do that than wearing clothing that essentially says "Suck it", then making up bs excuses about the clothing choice.


Obama did pretty good job at degrading the office. It is going to be hard to top that.

They're trying. Lordy are they trying.

FSP-Rebel
06-22-2018, 11:27 AM
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Swordsmyth
06-22-2018, 10:56 PM
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lilymc
06-23-2018, 12:24 AM
You don't think that's, at the very least, a bizarre choice of clothing and something that would be readily seen and commented on? They have teams of people whose only job is to manage the appearance of POTUS and FLOTUS. I find it very hard to believe that Melania and her team would be so clueless as to think that's an ok outfit for the occasion. I'm much more inclined to think it is the truth in plain sight and so they can watch (and gauge) the Trumpers deny what is staring them right in the face. How effective is our PR show? Yes, ignore what your eyes and ears tell you. Ignore it.

I completely agree with you. It’s one more thing that reinforces my gut feeling that his entire presidency is an act. Controlled opposition.

What crazy, crazy times we're living in, huh?

donnay
06-23-2018, 09:23 AM
These comedians think they are so funny--they're not. They are unhinged and deranged.

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LOL! Melania speaks 5 languages fluently and has more class in her pinkie than Chelsea has in her entire body.

Here are two more jesters. Stormy is running down to the border to help the children, I wonder how many languages she knows? :rolleyes:

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enhanced_deficit
06-23-2018, 01:47 PM
This was the moment I decided not to take politics as seriously and looked at it more like entertainment and I've been happier ever since.

Really though, Trump is pretty funny and willing to do some whacky ass $#@!, one of the reasons people wanted to vote for him.

From another discussion:

Why waste money in dingy theaters when quality free comedic entertainment of political theater is available to all lately. Some of the new entries to the politics bring a lot of 2-in-1 package value for the audiences.




I don't think you understand my point, you are chasing the laser dot that Trump wants you to chase.

Well can you point to a single instance where Trump himself brought up or encouraged others to bring up killing of thousands of innocent children by Obama drone strikes?

Even if he wanted to, his political slave masters (is zionist billionaire Sheldon Adelson still ranked as his biggest funder?) would not allow that.