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Swordsmyth
06-19-2018, 03:23 PM
Well, just a few hours ago, after an outrageous trial filled with the most insane and illegal behavior by courtroom attendees AND by the judge, who allowed an endless series of mistrial-worthy courtroom incidents every single day, the jury just found all the Antifa attackers NOT GUILTY — mainly because the victim was a Trump voter, thus a Bad Man, and thus deserving of getting beaten to within an inch of his life.

Read it here (http://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/06/18/jury-deliberates-over-alleged-berkeley-protest-attack-of-trump-supporter) and weep.
The article is immensely long, but it describes perhaps the most mind-numbingly unfair kangaroo court trial ever enacted on United States soil.
Even the freakin’ PROSECUTOR (whose job it supposedly was to convict the Antifa attackers) described the victim as “repulsive” and “dislikable” based entirely on the slanders spread by BAMN and Antifa.
Meanwhile the judge allowed Antifa and BAMN to pack every seat in the courtroom every day, where they constantly booed, and hissed and held up banners and interrupted witnesses, etc. The entire trial was a circus — and the judge never once stopped it or threatened a mistrial! Completely insane. Antifa members even stalked the jurors and yelled threats and lies at them during the trial! Mind-boggling.
Anyway, read the whole article for the details. Steam will come out of your ears.

More at: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/berkeley-jury-finds-antifa-not-guilty-of-violent-beating-of-trump-supporter-despite-multiple-witnesses/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=idealmedia&utm_campaign=thegatewaypundit.com&utm_term=68731&utm_content=1

This will lead to civil war, once they get away with politicized justice they will start to do it every time, soon leftists will get away with anything and conservatives will be convicted on nothing.

Zippyjuan
06-19-2018, 05:30 PM
Knock the crap out of them. I will pay your legal fees.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3HUVIZQc-Q

dannno
06-19-2018, 05:37 PM
Knock the crap out of them. I will pay your legal fees.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3HUVIZQc-Q

Are you insinuating Trump was going to pay the Antifa's legal fees? This doesn't make any sense.

Trump said that if a protester gets violent, knock the crap out of them and he will pay their legal fees. In this case, a Trump supporter was beaten by Antifa.

The amount of violence against Trump supporters is 100x that of the violence against people protesting Trump.

thoughtomator
06-19-2018, 05:37 PM
IF you live in one of these areas you need to understand that the government there has lifted its protection from the citizens and you are 100% on your own.

Swordsmyth
06-19-2018, 05:41 PM
Knock the crap out of them. I will pay your legal fees.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3HUVIZQc-Q

You confuse defense with offense and legal fees with jail time.

thoughtomator
06-19-2018, 05:42 PM
You confuse defense with offense and legal fees with jail time.

Yes it is no surprise this comes from someone with contempt for the concept of lawful self-defense.

As I'm sure Zippy signed up with Antifa at some point (right down his alley), I can totally see why that would be an issue for him.

Zippyjuan
06-19-2018, 05:48 PM
Trump was encouraging violence throughout his campaign. It should come as no surprise that violence occurred.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1es9MZyyPOA

ThePaleoLibertarian
06-19-2018, 05:49 PM
Trump was encouraging violence throughout his campaign. It should come as no surprise that violence occurred.
Yes, antifa was such a nice and peaceful group before fascist Darumph took office.

dannno
06-19-2018, 05:59 PM
Trump was encouraging violence throughout his campaign. It should come as no surprise that violence occurred.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1es9MZyyPOA

Everybody who supports zippy needs to watch this video and realize what a fraud he is, and maybe what a fraud you are. Trump is talking about a protester who was throwing punches.. he was saying it is a shame you can't punch back anymore (they can't defend themselves because conservatives get treated like crap and get lied about by the media, and by horrible, horrible liars like zippy)

You should really be ashamed of yourself zip, you went from being at least seemingly relatively benign and possibly naive a decade ago to becoming a truly evil person through all of this.

Swordsmyth
06-19-2018, 06:01 PM
Trump was encouraging violence throughout his campaign. It should come as no surprise that violence occurred.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1es9MZyyPOA

Rhetorical venting of emotions is not the same as actual violence.
And again the protester started the violence.

Anti Globalist
06-19-2018, 06:31 PM
Wow Berkley sure has become a joke hasn't it?

Brian4Liberty
06-19-2018, 07:02 PM
Trump was encouraging violence throughout his campaign. It should come as no surprise that violence occurred.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1es9MZyyPOA

So now you are engaging in whataboutism? Shame on you! :p

Brian4Liberty
06-19-2018, 07:03 PM
Wow Berkley sure has become a joke hasn't it?

A Kangaroo Court that is typical of totalitarian socialist regimes.

Brian4Liberty
06-19-2018, 07:15 PM
Several jurors told Berkeleyside the group found itself in agreement relatively early on regarding the not guilty verdicts. But they wanted to make sure they worked through the process carefully.

The trial was nothing but a formality. The actual decision was made at jury selection time, as is often the case.

tod evans
08-08-2018, 04:12 PM
Here's the article;

https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/06/18/jury-deliberates-over-alleged-berkeley-protest-attack-of-trump-supporter

Zippyjuan
08-08-2018, 04:32 PM
Wednesday, a trial began in Alameda County Superior Court where jurors have been asked to decide if five self-described “anti-fascist” defendants are guilty of attacking Trump supporter Moshe Daniel Quillinan during his evaluation by Berkeley firefighters for a large cut on his head that ultimately required 10 staples to close, according to testimony last week.

https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/06/18/jury-deliberates-over-alleged-berkeley-protest-attack-of-trump-supporter

Quillinan at the rally- with helmet, flag, and shield while his friend Kyle Sean Chapman shows off his mace and spiked ring also wearing a helmet and goggles. Just a peaceful gathering.

https://nocara.blackblogs.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/273/2017/03/chapman_pepperspray.jpg

https://nocara.blackblogs.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/273/2017/03/chapman_dagger.jpg

Chapman seen armed with a dagger and folding knife.

https://itsgoingdown.org/berkeley-violent-trump-supporters-merging-alt-right/



He recorded live video and posted to social media during the successful demonstration that shut down Milo Yiannopoulos at UC Berkeley on February 1, 2017, which Daniel brought weapons to. Facebook videos include Daniel revealing that he attempted to physically engage protesters until he got scared and had to “run for his life” that night. A number of Facebook posts by Daniel repeatedly call for violence on “Leftists.”


https://nocara.blackblogs.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/273/2017/03/dqposts.jpg

Swordsmyth
08-08-2018, 04:41 PM
https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/06/18/jury-deliberates-over-alleged-berkeley-protest-attack-of-trump-supporter

Quillinan at the rally- with helmet, flag, and shield while his friend Kyle Sean Chapman shows off his mace and spiked ring also wearing a helmet and goggles. Just a peaceful gathering.

https://nocara.blackblogs.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/273/2017/03/chapman_pepperspray.jpg

https://nocara.blackblogs.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/273/2017/03/chapman_dagger.jpg

Chapman seen armed with a dagger and folding knife.

https://itsgoingdown.org/berkeley-violent-trump-supporters-merging-alt-right/

Who started bringing weapons and acting violent?

You are confusing defense with offense AGAIN.

oyarde
08-08-2018, 04:42 PM
CalExit.

Swordsmyth
08-08-2018, 05:11 PM
https://nocara.blackblogs.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/273/2017/03/dqposts.jpg

Stupid people exist all over the spectrum of political thought, how does that justify letting one side get away with attempted murder?

Danke
08-08-2018, 05:48 PM
Yes it is no surprise this comes from someone with contempt for the concept of lawful self-defense.

As I'm sure Zippy signed up with Antifa at some point (right down his alley), I can totally see why that would be an issue for him.


Pretty much.

Danke
08-08-2018, 05:49 PM
Who started bringing weapons and acting violent?

You are confusing defense with offense AGAIN.


Yep. Self defense.

Danke
08-08-2018, 05:55 PM
Doesn't look very well armed here:

https://www.berkeleyside.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/DSC3691.jpg

Danke
08-08-2018, 06:06 PM
Says there were numerous videos of attack on Daniel, anyone know if they still exist?

Zippyjuan
08-08-2018, 06:33 PM
Doesn't look very well armed here:

https://www.berkeleyside.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/DSC3691.jpg

Can't see his left hand. His right is carrying the flag stick (which he just used to hit somebody over the head with who was not fighting with him but someone else) Video shows he still had his shield in the other hand. Both sides were guilty of violence.

Zippyjuan
08-08-2018, 07:02 PM
Says there were numerous videos of attack on Daniel, anyone know if they still exist?

Found one. Start about 1:20. Two guys start fighting and he jumps in on them and hits one with his flag. Then the fights expand.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKFAKbYeRfU

Can't see much beyond the start of this one. His buddies are breaking sticks on people's heads and pepper spraying while he is moving (his own movement? Them dragging him?) back into the crowds.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSnvcjm4WzI

ThePaleoLibertarian
08-08-2018, 07:23 PM
Can't see his left hand. His right is carrying the flag stick. Both sides were guilty of violence.
Would there have been any violence in the absence of antifa?

Zippyjuan
08-08-2018, 07:24 PM
Would there have been any violence in the absence of antifa?

Both seemed to go in looking for confrontations.

ThePaleoLibertarian
08-08-2018, 07:28 PM
Both seemed to go in looking for confrontations.
Sure, but that doesn't answer the question. Which element brings the violence in these cases? There have been Trump rallies, Proud Boy gatherings, Patriot Prayer groupings etc. that had no violence. The same cannot be said for antifa. Their entire purpose is to bring violence against anyone on the right. They don't even pretend to be peaceful.

ThePaleoLibertarian
08-08-2018, 07:32 PM
Both seemed to go in looking for confrontations.
Show me an example of a Trump supporter or Proud Boy or whatever doing anything remotely like this (outside of maybe Charlottesville, which is a whole other kettle of fish):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71bKr8nM0Qg
They would have turned that guy's chair over and kicked the shit out of him if they weren't stopped.

Zippyjuan
08-08-2018, 07:40 PM
Both sides should be condemned for their actions.

Swordsmyth
08-08-2018, 07:42 PM
Both sides should be condemned for their actions.
One side is composed entirely of people looking to use violence to suppress free speech, the other has a few renegades.

ThePaleoLibertarian
08-08-2018, 07:43 PM
Both sides should be condemned for their actions.
You're dodging the question. And soon you'll disappear from the exchange. The fact that both groups participate in violence does not make them moral equivalents.

Zippyjuan
08-08-2018, 07:51 PM
Who brought violence? The ones who covered their faces? The ones who threw punches? The ones with pepper spray? The ones with sticks and other weapons? That covers people on both sides. Both parties were extremists and not representative of their respective parties. Alt- Right vs Alt-Left.

Why have a Trump rally on one of the most liberal campuses in the US? Because they expected a warm welcome? That too can be seen as provocative.

Politics used to be about trying to win people over to your side. Now they want to get you to vote for them by hating the other side because emotion is easier to convince them than using logic.

Swordsmyth
08-08-2018, 07:56 PM
Who brought violence? The ones who covered their faces? The ones who threw punches? The ones with pepper spray? The ones with sticks and other weapons? That covers people on both sides. Both parties were extremists and not representative of their respective parties.
The people whose goal was to use violence to suppress free speech and the people who started the violence.


Why have a Trump rally on one of the most liberal campuses in the US? Because they expected a warm welcome? That too can be seen as provocative.
It's called free speech, there are a few students there who are trump supporters and a few who might listen to Trump supporters' points of view, it is NOT provocative, stop spewing AntiFa garbage.

ThePaleoLibertarian
08-08-2018, 07:59 PM
Who brought violence? The ones who covered their faces? The ones who threw punches? The ones with pepper spray? The ones with sticks and other weapons? That covers people on both sides. Both parties were extremists and not representative of their respective parties.
The people who bring violence are the group who engage in violent skirmishes wherever they go. Which is the best predictor of violence when they show up? Trump Supporters? Proud Boys? Patriot Prayer? Or antifa?


Why have a Trump rally on one of the most liberal campuses in the US? Because they expected a warm welcome? That too can be seen as provocative.
Bernie Sanders got a warm welcome from Liberty University. Do we need to hold leftists to a different standard? Are they savages who can't help but be violent in the presence of right-wingers?

Ben Shapiro came to UC Berkeley in 2016 without incident. He came again last year and antifa showed up with intent to cause mayhem. Luckily the BPD did their jobs for once and it was peaceful. He's not even a Trump supporter. The escalatory elements is antifa, no one else.

Zippyjuan
08-08-2018, 08:07 PM
The people who bring violence are the group who engage in violent skirmishes wherever they go. Which is the best predictor of violence when they show up? Trump Supporters? Proud Boys? Patriot Prayer? Or antifa?



Actually the last three. They all have records of violence when they show up. I would not link all Trump supporters with them.

https://www.wweek.com/news/2018/08/07/patriot-prayer-leader-joey-gibson-gets-clobbered-in-his-u-s-senate-race/


Gibson has led dozens of protests along the west coast. His events often attract alt-right figures, white supremacists and armed militia members. In Portland, the Patriot Prayer rallies often devolved into street brawls.

The worst-ever violence at a Patriot Prayer event broke out on June 30, when Gibson's followers, joined by a large coalition of Proud Boys, clashed with antifascist counterprotesters. Members of the far-right group beat antifascists with flagpoles after counterprotesters lobbed rocks and fireworks at the Patriot Prayer crowd. Five people sought treatment in Portland hospitals after the riot.

The most recent rally on Aug. 4 avoided similar beatings, but ended with police firing explosives and chemical irritants at the counterprotesters, injuring several people.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/07/explained-proud-boys-180716144139072.html


Explained: Who are the far-right Proud Boys?

As the 2016 presidential elections agitated already sharp political divisions in the United States, a host of far-right groups began to emerge across the country.

With anti-fascist groups also setting up shop in many cities and towns, violent clashes also became part and parcel of protests, particularly in the months following US President Donald Trump's inauguration.

One of the many far-right organisations that welcomed opportunities to engage in violence was the Proud Boys, a self-described pro-Western, chauvinist "fraternity" headed by a former media executive.

Established in 2016 by Vice cofounder Gavin McInnes, the Proud Boys boast of chapters in several major North American cities in the US and Canada, as well as places as far away as Israel.

McInnes, who left Vice in 2008 due to what he described as "creative differences", used his former programme at Rebel Media, a right-wing online Canadian outlet, to promote the Proud Boys.


https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-rise-of-the-violent-left/534192/


The Rise of the Violent Left
Antifa’s activists say they’re battling burgeoning authoritarianism on the American right. Are they fueling it instead?

Since 1907, portland, oregon, has hosted an annual Rose Festival. Since 2007, the festival had included a parade down 82nd Avenue. Since 2013, the Republican Party of Multnomah County, which includes Portland, had taken part. This April, all of that changed.

In the days leading up to the planned parade, a group called the Direct Action Alliance declared, “Fascists plan to march through the streets,” and warned, “Nazis will not march through Portland unopposed.” The alliance said it didn’t object to the Multnomah GOP itself, but to “fascists” who planned to infiltrate its ranks. Yet it also denounced marchers with “Trump flags” and “red maga hats” who could “normalize support for an orange man who bragged about sexually harassing women and who is waging a war of hate, racism and prejudice.” A second group, Oregon Students Empowered, created a Facebook page called “Shut down fascism! No nazis in Portland!”

Next, the parade’s organizers received an anonymous email warning that if “Trump supporters” and others who promote “hateful rhetoric” marched, “we will have two hundred or more people rush into the parade … and drag and push those people out.” When Portland police said they lacked the resources to provide adequate security, the organizers canceled the parade. It was a sign of things to come.




On Inauguration Day, a masked activist punched the white-supremacist leader Richard Spencer. In February, protesters violently disrupted UC Berkeley’s plans to host a speech by Milo Yiannopoulos, a former Breitbart.com editor. In March, protesters pushed and shoved the controversial conservative political scientist Charles Murray when he spoke at Middlebury College, in Vermont.

As far-flung as these incidents were, they have something crucial in common. Like the organizations that opposed the Multnomah County Republican Party’s participation in the 82nd Avenue of Roses Parade, these activists appear to be linked to a movement called “antifa,” which is short for antifascist or Anti-Fascist Action. The movement’s secrecy makes definitively cataloging its activities difficult, but this much is certain: Antifa’s power is growing. And how the rest of the activist left responds will help define its moral character in the Trump age.


The violence is not directed only at avowed racists like Spencer: In June of last year, demonstrators—at least some of whom were associated with antifa—punched and threw eggs at people exiting a Trump rally in San Jose, California. An article in It’s Going Down celebrated the “righteous beatings.”


Antifascists call such actions defensive. Hate speech against vulnerable minorities, they argue, leads to violence against vulnerable minorities. But Trump supporters and white nationalists see antifa’s attacks as an assault on their right to freely assemble, which they in turn seek to reassert. The result is a level of sustained political street warfare not seen in the U.S. since the 1960s. A few weeks after the attacks in San Jose, for instance, a white-supremacist leader announced that he would host a march in Sacramento to protest the attacks at Trump rallies. Anti-Fascist Action Sacramento called for a counterdemonstration; in the end, at least 10 people were stabbed.

angelatc
08-08-2018, 08:12 PM
Who brought violence? The ones who covered their faces? The ones who threw punches? The ones with pepper spray? The ones with sticks and other weapons? That covers people on both sides. Both parties were extremists and not representative of their respective parties. Alt- Right vs Alt-Left.

Why have a Trump rally on one of the most liberal campuses in the US? Because they expected a warm welcome? That too can be seen as provocative.

Politics used to be about trying to win people over to your side. Now they want to get you to vote for them by hating the other side because emotion is easier to convince them than using logic.

Wow - this is some serious "blame the victim" stuff right here. "California - the rules are different here."

ThePaleoLibertarian
08-08-2018, 08:13 PM
Actually the last three. They all have records of violence when they show up. I would not link all Trump supporters with them.
There would be no violence at Proud Boy or Patriot Prayer rallies were it not for antifa. That's what you seem to be incapable of grasping. Antifa goes down to these gatherings to "bash the fash". They're totally open about it. There are peaceful rallies when these groups are unmolested. There are no peaceful antifa rallies unless the cops crack down hard.

Swordsmyth
08-08-2018, 08:13 PM
Actually the last three. They all have records of violence when they show up. I would not link all Trump supporters with them.
If you don't count the times AntiFa causes the violence then you are left with just AntiFa.

Swordsmyth
08-08-2018, 08:14 PM
There would be no violence at Proud Boy or Patriot Prayer rallies were it not for antifa. That's what you seem to be incapable of grasping.
He is perfectly capable of grasping it but he is paid to defend AntiFa and/or he is a member of AntiFa.

angelatc
08-08-2018, 08:15 PM
Sure, but that doesn't answer the question. Which element brings the violence in these cases? There have been Trump rallies, Proud Boy gatherings, Patriot Prayer groupings etc. that had no violence. The same cannot be said for antifa. Their entire purpose is to bring violence against anyone on the right. They don't even pretend to be peaceful.

Here's the thing: the calvary isn't coming. This is going to fall on us. Look at ZIppy's posts, then go polish your rifle. Enough talk.

ThePaleoLibertarian
08-08-2018, 08:19 PM
Actually the last three. They all have records of violence when they show up. I would not link all Trump supporters with them.

https://www.wweek.com/news/2018/08/07/patriot-prayer-leader-joey-gibson-gets-clobbered-in-his-u-s-senate-race/



https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/07/explained-proud-boys-180716144139072.html
lol Al Jazeera. The news organization funded by ultra-conservative Qatar that pushes progressivism, BLM and anti-Trump shit in the US. Anyway, even with that, these links just prove my point. The only time there's violence at these Proud Boy rallies is when antifa goes there and attacks them.

Danke
08-08-2018, 08:21 PM
Both sides should be condemned for their actions.

Not really, but a liberal like you sees a peaceful gathering of those that want a redress, guaranteed by the first amendment as something to attack.

Liberals like you protest all the time, no violent attack, hmmm.

Danke
08-08-2018, 08:23 PM
There would be no violence at Proud Boy or Patriot Prayer rallies were it not for antifa. That's what you seem to be incapable of grasping. Antifa goes down to these gatherings to "bash the fash". They're totally open about it. There are peaceful rallies when these groups are unmolested. There are no peaceful antifa rallies unless the cops crack down hard.

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ThePaleoLibertarian
08-08-2018, 11:16 PM
You're dodging the question. And soon you'll disappear from the exchange.
Prescient. I must be psychic :rolleyes:

Sonny Tufts
08-09-2018, 06:56 AM
Where are all the supporters of jury nullification? After all, isn't this is precisely the kind of result to be expected if the jury is to be allowed to ignore the law given to them by the judge and acquit someone for whatever reason they choose? As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for -- you might get it.

jllundqu
08-09-2018, 09:30 AM
Where are all the supporters of jury nullification? After all, isn't this is precisely the kind of result to be expected if the jury is to be allowed to ignore the law given to them by the judge and acquit someone for whatever reason they choose? As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for -- you might get it.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

This didn't go to trial. He plead guilty to a misdemeanor battery, had other charges dropped, 3 years probation and a fine. There wasn't a fucking jury

jllundqu
08-09-2018, 09:31 AM
Sets a dangerous precedent. He will be sued civilly and pay some serious bucks to the victim, but this sends a clear message that it's open season in Cali to assault with a deadly weapon.... if you have the preferred political affiliation.

Sonny Tufts
08-09-2018, 10:30 AM
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

This didn't go to trial. He plead guilty to a misdemeanor battery, had other charges dropped, 3 years probation and a fine. There wasn't a fucking jury

You have a serious reading comprehension problem.


The jury has found all five defendants not guilty of misdemeanor assault, and not guilty of assault causing great bodily injury, also a misdemeanor.
https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/06/18/jury-deliberates-over-alleged-berkeley-protest-attack-of-trump-supporter

Brian4Liberty
08-09-2018, 10:58 AM
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

This didn't go to trial. He plead guilty to a misdemeanor battery, had other charges dropped, 3 years probation and a fine. There wasn't a fucking jury


You have a serious reading comprehension problem.

The thread is talking about two different cases, one with a jury, one with a plea deal (no jury).

Brian4Liberty
08-09-2018, 11:04 AM
Not really, but a liberal like you sees a peaceful gathering of those that want a redress, guaranteed by the first amendment as something to attack.

Liberals like you protest all the time, no violent attack, hmmm.

You mean they are not attacked by counter protestors. There is often violence and destruction by these same antifa vandals (black bloc) with no opposition protesters present. Newspaper stands, McDonald’s, Starbuck’s, CVS, Whole Foods, and assorted large and small local businesses are some of their favorite targets.

Danke
08-09-2018, 12:00 PM
You mean they are not attacked by counter protestors. There is often violence and destruction by these same antifa vandals (black bloc) with no opposition protesters present. Newspaper stands, McDonald’s, Starbuck’s, CVS, Whole Foods, and assorted large and small local businesses are some of their favorite targets.


That’s what me meant.

jllundqu
08-09-2018, 01:42 PM
The thread is talking about two different cases, one with a jury, one with a plea deal (no jury).

I'm talking about Eric Clanton... for clarity

NorthCarolinaLiberty
08-09-2018, 02:27 PM
You have a serious reading comprehension problem.


Well, look who shows up. The tax lawyer who is part of the ZippyJuan group, lock, stock & barrel. LOL!

NorthCarolinaLiberty
08-09-2018, 02:38 PM
You should really be ashamed of yourself zip, you went from being at least seemingly relatively benign and possibly naive a decade ago to becoming a truly evil person through all of this.

You know, I sort of see a parallel here. Conservative groups hold a rally, and antifa shows up to be disruptive and violent. I say that antifa is not some grass roots organization of yesteryear. They appear to be funded by high rollers.

RPFers try to promote liberty and we get infiltrated by Zip and his Open Society Foundation (https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/grants) high rollers. Some people here are fooled by the ZippyJuan Group's superficial politeness, but that is naivete at it's worst. They are shrewd, organized, and downright nasty.













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