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dude58677
06-16-2018, 04:04 PM
Was it a different voting generation it did Donald Trump really make the Bushes look that bad? Because Donald Trump is not at all like the Bushes not with platform nor background.

enhanced_deficit
06-16-2018, 04:07 PM
If I have to guess, probably 80-90%.
But Trump had help from Bush & Obama's terrible foreign policies and sky rocketing debt. Voters were hungry for Hope n Change 2.0 as Champion 1.0 didn't deliver/ so many in GOP base particularly felt disfranchized.

oyarde
06-16-2018, 06:34 PM
I would say same voters . These votes are not for these people at all . They are merely votes against Gore , Kerry , Obama and Clinton and whatever communist the dems put up next . These votes are for the modern mainstream GOP or big govt , big spending , debt , socialist party which is viewed as less painful that the modern dem party of communists , baby killers , totalitarian govt , big spending , debt , anti second amendment and other amendments party .

Zippyjuan
06-16-2018, 07:19 PM
I would say same voters . These votes are not for these people at all . They are merely votes against Gore , Kerry , Obama and Clinton and whatever communist the dems put up next . These votes are for the modern mainstream GOP or big govt , big spending , debt , socialist party which is viewed as less painful that the modern dem party of communists , baby killers , totalitarian govt , big spending , debt , anti second amendment and other amendments party .

There was a very large number of voters on both sides who made their choices to vote against one candidate rather than for the other. Neither had very favorable popularity ratings.

euphemia
06-16-2018, 07:44 PM
I would say same voters . These votes are not for these people at all . They are merely votes against Gore , Kerry , Obama and Clinton and whatever communist the dems put up next.

This. Taking Gore as his running mate was the best thing Clinton ever did for Tennessee because we did not have Gore in office ever again. He didn't take Tennessee, if you notice.

Gore's problem wasn't Florida with the hanging chads. His problem was Tennessee. And Arkansas.

RonZeplin
06-16-2018, 08:56 PM
The same people who voted for Poppy Bush, Bob Dole, George W. Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney are delighted with Donald Trump. It's like GHW Bush's 8th term.

1Bush, 2Clinton, 2Bush, 2Obama, 1Trump = 8 terms for Poppy Bush.

GHW Bush's long awaited New World Order is finally coming into view for the Bushbot faithful.

http://172.217.22.164/images?q=tbn:tGSjmpjZ9oR4oM

euphemia
06-16-2018, 09:04 PM
From an ardent pro-life point of view, Trump is delivering on his promises.

Anti Federalist
06-16-2018, 09:53 PM
From an ardent pro-life point of view, Trump is delivering on his promises.

Yes, the fact of the matter is that he is moving the ball down the field.

His bombastic and scatterbrained demeanor just serves to rattle the other side even more.

I have no idea how all this will turn out, I've been poleaxed and wrong from day one with this guy, every time I think I've got him figured out he zigs when I expected a zag.

So for right now, I give a thumbs up overall.

euphemia
06-16-2018, 09:56 PM
I don’t know why people have a hard time figuring him out. He has a template to which he strictly adheres. He says he is going to do something and then goes right out and does it.

The Rebel Poet
06-16-2018, 09:57 PM
The same people who voted for Poppy Bush, Bob Dole, George W. Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney are delighted with Donald Trump. It's like GHW Bush's 8th term.

1Bush, 2Clinton, 2Bush, 2Obama, 1Trump = 8 terms for Poppy Bush.

GHW Bush's long awaited New World Order is finally coming into view for the Bushbot faithful.

http://172.217.22.164/images?q=tbn:tGSjmpjZ9oR4oM
This. That's why he's known as Fuckface von Clownstick V. But really these five presidents are just an extension of Nixon.

Anti Federalist
06-16-2018, 10:08 PM
I don’t know why people have a hard time figuring him out. He has a template to which he strictly adheres. He says he is going to do something and then goes right out and does it.

Let's say I lived near you in Tennessee.

I'm planning a cross country drive to L.A. ... by way of New York City.

That's how I observe Trump...yeah he may get it done, but it's in a scatterbrained manner.

Least that's how I see it.

Swordsmyth
06-16-2018, 10:18 PM
Let's say I lived near you in Tennessee.

I'm planning a cross country drive to L.A. ... by way of New York City.

That's how I observe Trump...yeah he may get it done, but it's in a scatterbrained manner.

Least that's how I see it.

I agree, he uses the "drunken monkey" strategy.
He may not be the President we want but he may be the President we need, the enemy is well defended against the direct approach.
I can only wish that somewhere a full fledged liberty candidate is taking notes.

Anti Federalist
06-16-2018, 10:21 PM
I agree, he uses the "drunken monkey" strategy.
He may not be the President we want but he may be the President we need, the enemy is well defended against the direct approach.
I can only wish that somewhere a full fledged liberty candidate is taking notes.

Same here.

Looks like I might lose my wager with dannno as well.

Anti Federalist
06-16-2018, 10:26 PM
I find myself defending Trump if only because the unhinged Bolshevik left has lost its everfucking mind.

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/Dfl_eU4XUAIRONN.jpg

Brian4Liberty
06-16-2018, 10:30 PM
There is a world of difference between Bush 2000 and Bush 2004.

Bush 2000 was "humble foreign policy, fiscal conservative".

Bush 2004 was "full neocon, debt, bail-out crony corporatists, abandon the free market to save the free market".

The Rebel Poet
06-16-2018, 10:34 PM
I agree, he uses the "drunken monkey" strategy.
He may not be the President we want but he may be the President we need, the enemy is well defended against the direct approach.
I can only wish that somewhere a full fledged liberty candidate is taking notes.
Trump IS the enemy. Don't get herded back onto the left-right plantation by reflexively loving whatever the left claims to hate. "Don't throw me in that briar patch" is the oldest trick in the book.


I find myself defending Trump if only because the unhinged Bolshevik left has lost its everfucking mind.

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/Dfl_eU4XUAIRONN.jpg
C'mon, you guys are better than this.

Swordsmyth
06-16-2018, 10:38 PM
Trump IS the enemy. Don't get herded back onto the left-right plantation by reflexively loving whatever the left claims to hate. "Don't throw me in that briar patch" is the oldest trick in the book.

He is doing more good than any President in living memory, my appreciation of him is not based on any reaction to his enemies.

oyarde
06-16-2018, 10:40 PM
There was a very large number of voters on both sides who made their choices to vote against one candidate rather than for the other. Neither had very favorable popularity ratings.

The country is pretty well divided in half . Six in ten americans work , three of those pay more tax than they recieve .The communist coasts and everywhere else . Populations in large cities who want abortions , "free" food , housing, education , universal income and violations to the bill of rights along with these gross Constitutional violations and soundly unAmerican , sick ideals . Then the other half , ordinary people who are mostly not bright enough to see what is being stolen from them .

The Rebel Poet
06-16-2018, 10:47 PM
He is doing more good than any President in living memory, my appreciation of him is not based on any reaction to his enemies.
Is it based on the increased spending, the increased gun control, or the increased foreign wars? Or perhaps it's the increased screeching on the left that is making you like him more?

dannno
06-16-2018, 10:48 PM
Same here.

Looks like I might lose my wager with @dannno (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=10908) as well.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-bumpstocks/pro-gun-voices-dominate-in-debate-over-trumps-bump-stock-ban-idUSKBN1I5111


Of the more than 17,000 public comments received so far by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), a review by Reuters of 4,200 turned up only 10 favoring the bump stock ban. Almost all the rest criticized the proposal as heavy-handed, unnecessary or unconstitutional.


Same ten who showed up for Maxine Waters twitterthon?

Swordsmyth
06-16-2018, 10:51 PM
Is it based on the increased spending, the increased gun control, or the increased foreign wars? Or perhaps it's the increased screeching on the left that is making you like him more?

Increased border control, reduced regulations, tax cuts, disruption of the western empire, defensive tariffs............
The list goes on and on compared to what we have had, with any luck he will get more control and add to the list things like leaving Syria and Afghanistan.

Swordsmyth
06-16-2018, 10:52 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-bumpstocks/pro-gun-voices-dominate-in-debate-over-trumps-bump-stock-ban-idUSKBN1I5111




Same ten who showed up for Maxine Waters twitterthon?

I wonder how many of them post here?

Jamesiv1
06-16-2018, 11:51 PM
Trump IS the enemy. Don't get herded back onto the left-right plantation by reflexively loving whatever the left claims to hate. "Don't throw me in that briar patch" is the oldest trick in the book.


C'mon, you guys are better than this.You might want to do some research before you embarrass yourself again.

The Rebel Poet
06-17-2018, 12:15 AM
disruption of the western empire
What does this mean?

Swordsmyth
06-17-2018, 12:17 AM
What does this mean?

The west has been unified in bullying the rest of the world for a long time, Trump is breaking the US off of the empire and causing the rest of it to fragment, this is good for the world.

The Rebel Poet
06-17-2018, 12:21 AM
The west has been unified in bullying the rest of the world for a long time, Trump is breaking the US off of the empire and causing the rest of it to fragment, this is good for the world.
So, you don't think saber rattling with Iran or bombing Syria are bullying?

Swordsmyth
06-17-2018, 12:26 AM
So, you don't think saber rattling with Iran or bombing Syria are bullying?

I didn't say that, but isn't it better that all of Europe and the UN isn't in lockstep on that?

I think Trump is trading those to certain factions to get what he wants elsewhere, hopefully he can pull us out after he doesn't need to make that trade anymore.

The Rebel Poet
06-17-2018, 12:36 AM
I didn't say that, but isn't it better that all of Europe and the UN isn't in lockstep on that?

I think Trump is trading those to certain factions to get what he wants elsewhere, hopefully he can pull us out after he doesn't need to make that trade anymore.

They weren't in lockstep when Fuckface von Clownstick III invaded Iraq either. All this Wheeling and dealing you guys think Trump does is just more of the same distraction the last four presidents did.

Swordsmyth
06-17-2018, 12:41 AM
They weren't in lockstep when $#@!face von Clownstick III invaded Iraq either. All this Wheeling and dealing you guys think Trump does is just more of the same distraction the last four presidents did.

They were more in lock step than they are now, no way could we get the cooperation baby shrub did now and Trump isn't even done breaking up the empire yet.

And I forgot to mention the crown jewel of Trump's accomplishments so far: Gorsuch.

The Rebel Poet
06-17-2018, 12:52 AM
They were more in lock step than they are now, no way could we get the cooperation baby shrub did now and Trump isn't even done breaking up the empire yet.

And I forgot to mention the crown jewel of Trump's accomplishments so far: Gorsuch.

That's what people said about Roberts.

Swordsmyth
06-17-2018, 12:56 AM
That's what people said about Roberts.

Gorsuch is yielding better fruits than Roberts ever did.

dude58677
06-17-2018, 09:10 AM
I find myself defending Trump if only because the unhinged Bolshevik left has lost its everfucking mind.

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/Dfl_eU4XUAIRONN.jpg

LOLOLOLOL