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Hope
12-12-2007, 12:51 PM
I'm watching the pre-debate on Fox and CNN, switching back and forth. It's sad there's not really a difference.

"Huckabee..."
"We should see some good exchanges between Huckabee and Mitt..."


Ugh.

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 12:52 PM
could somebody please give me quick cliffnotes of the debate thus far? I'm at work and I can't risk video or audio. Thanks!

Hope
12-12-2007, 12:52 PM
Crap, I didn't see the Iowa debate subforum! Mods feel free to delete. :)

Ethek
12-12-2007, 12:54 PM
Lets do this.

alien
12-12-2007, 12:54 PM
Someone be sure to let us know about any polls afterwards incase we miss it.

RP 247
12-12-2007, 12:57 PM
looking sharp. :cool:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5149/vlcsnap11907zp8.png

Menthol Patch
12-12-2007, 12:58 PM
I hope Ron Paul is more aggressive today!

Scruffy the Janitor
12-12-2007, 12:58 PM
Fuck you Frank!!!!

Hope
12-12-2007, 12:58 PM
They'll talk about Alan Keyes but not Ron Paul!

BLS
12-12-2007, 12:58 PM
Fuck you Frank!!!!


:D

Hope
12-12-2007, 12:58 PM
Fuck you Frank!!!!

I said that earlier, actually! Haha.

ClayTrainor
12-12-2007, 12:58 PM
Woo! here we go!

Menthol Patch
12-12-2007, 12:59 PM
They better ask Ron Paul plenty of questions!!!

Hope
12-12-2007, 12:59 PM
How do they decide who gets the dials to rate the candidates? Is it a random sampling of the audiance or what? This is on CNN.

Ben Elliott
12-12-2007, 01:01 PM
It's starting!

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:01 PM
They said they had trouble scheduling it around PBS' line up and that's why it's at such an odd time. What, PBS couldn't make room for the debate between Sesame Street and re-runs of old Brittish comedies??

Peppy690
12-12-2007, 01:01 PM
cheesy intro

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:02 PM
Ooh, bad choice on pants, lady. I didn't want to see your butt cleavage.

Scruffy the Janitor
12-12-2007, 01:02 PM
I said that earlier, actually! Haha.

Ive gotta say every time i see his face

Wyle
12-12-2007, 01:02 PM
wooot ron paulllllllllllllllllllll

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:02 PM
...Is there an audiance? I don't hear any applause or anything.

Ben Elliott
12-12-2007, 01:03 PM
This audience is dull.

Scruffy the Janitor
12-12-2007, 01:03 PM
Alan Keyes!!

amonasro
12-12-2007, 01:03 PM
Doesn't seem like an audience.. hmm. I like this debate already :)

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:03 PM
WOOT The first question is on the economy! :D Softball!

amonasro
12-12-2007, 01:04 PM
FINANCIAL CRISIS!!!!

woooooot

mmink15
12-12-2007, 01:04 PM
I like that I don't recognize the hostess of the debate

Peppy690
12-12-2007, 01:04 PM
what if she falls off that thing lol

d991
12-12-2007, 01:04 PM
Ron Paul will kill this one!!

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:04 PM
This debate was filmed in 1992. I'm sure of it.

Wyle
12-12-2007, 01:04 PM
+1 for ron paul already :)

amonasro
12-12-2007, 01:05 PM
This debate was filmed in 1992. I'm sure of it.

lol definitely not the "modern" feel of the recent debates

RoamZero
12-12-2007, 01:05 PM
...Is there an audiance? I don't hear any applause or anything.

I think that is a good thing. This looks like it might be a good debate and not a joke like most of the others.

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:05 PM
Why can't Rudy cut himself off? Geez.

Peppy690
12-12-2007, 01:05 PM
guiliani is a retard

Scruffy the Janitor
12-12-2007, 01:06 PM
Giuliani failed

JAM824A
12-12-2007, 01:06 PM
If our economy gets fucked up us, as a nation, is fine, right?

homah
12-12-2007, 01:06 PM
c'mon rudy, give a yes/no answer damn it.

amonasro
12-12-2007, 01:06 PM
"yes or no Giuliani"

duurrhhh durh economics durh

Scruffy the Janitor
12-12-2007, 01:06 PM
Bam!!!! Go Rp!!!!

angrydragon
12-12-2007, 01:06 PM
I like how the moderator took charge. hehe

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:06 PM
YAY! Go Ron Go!

angrydragon
12-12-2007, 01:07 PM
Ron Paul, yes!

llepard
12-12-2007, 01:07 PM
God I love this man.

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:07 PM
Come on, Tancredo. The dollar isn't falling because of an import of oil.

VRP08
12-12-2007, 01:07 PM
definitely different...kind of quite

homah
12-12-2007, 01:07 PM
Love how Ron crams in so much info without going over on time.

Scruffy the Janitor
12-12-2007, 01:07 PM
I wonder how Luntz is going to explain that

markderidder
12-12-2007, 01:07 PM
Perfect answer Ron!

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:08 PM
Fred fell asleep, the mod had to wake up him to respond.

VRP08
12-12-2007, 01:08 PM
God I love this man.

AMEN!

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 01:08 PM
Ron Paul is so smart! It's like he's about to publish a 500+ page book on the subject... :)

amonasro
12-12-2007, 01:08 PM
sheesh Thompson's suit is like a tent, he needs to tailor those shoulders

ClayTrainor
12-12-2007, 01:08 PM
Fred fell asleep, the mod had to wake up him to respond.

LOL!

d991
12-12-2007, 01:08 PM
So far Ron Paul has given the best answer to this question.. and I don't think I'm being too biased :) The rest of them seem to avoid the question and give vague answers.

philistineau
12-12-2007, 01:08 PM
Perfect!

Didn't mention Iraq either, which is a great strategy.

Talked about something tangible - as the dollar falls, people will think of Ron Paul.

Mental Dribble
12-12-2007, 01:09 PM
haha, good answer. Wish he would have touched more on inflation.

amonasro
12-12-2007, 01:09 PM
gotta love Romney's well rehearsed answer :rolleyes:

JAM824A
12-12-2007, 01:09 PM
Romney makes everybody feel okay with our economy sucking...

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:09 PM
What Mitt is basically saying, "The gov't should spend more money."

The "equal playing field" comment is so far from conservatism it's not even funny.

Peppy690
12-12-2007, 01:09 PM
wow romney has no idea what he talking about

Ben Elliott
12-12-2007, 01:09 PM
Lol I like how Mitt Romney didn't answer the question.

angrydragon
12-12-2007, 01:09 PM
RomneyCARE!

Scruffy the Janitor
12-12-2007, 01:09 PM
If any one was watching fox, they had the FU Frank dial poll. When RP was talking it spiked!!!

JAM824A
12-12-2007, 01:09 PM
Huckabee should have had "Frees rapists" on his description.

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 01:09 PM
Romney drives me nuts!

azminuteman
12-12-2007, 01:09 PM
Fox is sick.
They're displaying how much Guiliani and Hunter got from Iowa donors but not Paul.

amonasro
12-12-2007, 01:10 PM
the gov't has to feed itself huckabee?? what? put food on the table for people? nuh uh

ClayTrainor
12-12-2007, 01:10 PM
Ron Paul is so smart! It's like he's about to publish a 500+ page book on the subject... :)

yea man, i cheered when i heard the question asked...It was so obvious Ron Paul was gonna kill it!

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:10 PM
This debate is actually going pretty well. I hope they continue to give equal time to the candidates.

crhoades
12-12-2007, 01:10 PM
the gov't has to feed itself huckabee?? what? put food on the table for people? nuh uh

All about gettin' the iowa vote.

Scruffy the Janitor
12-12-2007, 01:11 PM
We will become energy independent in five years.

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 01:11 PM
Is John McCain going to die soon? ...Did he just say he wants another Manhatten project? WTF

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:11 PM
Keyes sounds like a black guy trying to sound like a white guy in a comedy sketch.

JAM824A
12-12-2007, 01:11 PM
When Keyes was showed the ticker plummeted.

Scruffy the Janitor
12-12-2007, 01:11 PM
Go Alan Keyes.

amonasro
12-12-2007, 01:11 PM
Keye's answer wasn't too bad

BLS
12-12-2007, 01:12 PM
Keyes is now gonna abolish the IRS.

RedLightning
12-12-2007, 01:12 PM
I'm still trying to figure out why keyes is there.

angrydragon
12-12-2007, 01:12 PM
Fairtax?

Mental Dribble
12-12-2007, 01:12 PM
keyes gave a good answer.

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 01:12 PM
ditto amonasro...I liked Keyes's answer

homah
12-12-2007, 01:12 PM
It's like these questions were catered specifically for Ron Paul thus far. :)

njandrewg
12-12-2007, 01:12 PM
keyes gave a good answer.
he is essentially a black Huckabee

Primbs
12-12-2007, 01:12 PM
Keyes usually speaks well.

crhoades
12-12-2007, 01:12 PM
Everybody is trying to out-Ron Paul, Ron Paul

rasheedwallace
12-12-2007, 01:12 PM
this graph thing is complete horseshit.

it takes away from listening to the words, and honestly, its a complete crock.

BLS
12-12-2007, 01:12 PM
Cmon Paul....make A Stand Today!!!

llepard
12-12-2007, 01:13 PM
I'm still trying to figure out why keyes is there.

Right. Is he even on the ballot?

RedLightning
12-12-2007, 01:13 PM
Buckahee black hukabee

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:13 PM
Rudy's healthcare stuff actually sounds good. Too bad he's a facist twit.

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 01:13 PM
LOL...Black Huckabee! PS...Rudy is an IDIOT. Does he even know what he's babbling about?

Scruffy the Janitor
12-12-2007, 01:13 PM
When Keyes was showed the ticker plummeted.

I think it resets every time a question is asked..

BLS
12-12-2007, 01:13 PM
this graph thing is complete horseshit.

it takes away from listening to the words, and honestly, its a complete crock.


What graph?

philistineau
12-12-2007, 01:13 PM
Guiliani talks rubbish.

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:13 PM
Fuck you Frank! You and your bullshit graph.

Delain
12-12-2007, 01:14 PM
Everybody is trying to out-Ron Paul, Ron Paul

The phonies.

Scruffy the Janitor
12-12-2007, 01:14 PM
Fuck you Frank!!

sstarch1
12-12-2007, 01:14 PM
Guilliani must have added RonPaul2008.com to his reading list.

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:14 PM
What graph?

On Fox News, it's on the right. Frank Luntz set it up.

280Z28
12-12-2007, 01:14 PM
Everybody is trying to out-Ron Paul, Ron Paul

NO KIDDING

llepard
12-12-2007, 01:14 PM
This debate format is so much better than the network debates.

Wow, what a difference when everyone gets the same question and gets to answer

aperetti
12-12-2007, 01:14 PM
all the conservative on luntz poll are pro war -.-

IRO-bot
12-12-2007, 01:14 PM
did anyone post a live stream link?

crhoades
12-12-2007, 01:15 PM
did anyone post a live stream link?

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

Primbs
12-12-2007, 01:15 PM
Ron Paul is making the others respond to his issues.

homah
12-12-2007, 01:15 PM
Fox News sucks. I'm loving watching this on PBS with no scrolling banners. Breath of fresh air.

mmink15
12-12-2007, 01:15 PM
It seems Dr Paul is getting fair time

JAM824A
12-12-2007, 01:15 PM
I think it resets every time a question is asked..

Ya, I just started watching it at that time.

By the way, where'd it go?

Derek
12-12-2007, 01:15 PM
This debate format is so much better than the network debates.

Wow, what a difference when everyone gets the same question and gets to answer

No kidding.

philistineau
12-12-2007, 01:15 PM
Romney is nailing this question.

Go Romney! Take out Huckabee and the Ghoul!

ClayTrainor
12-12-2007, 01:16 PM
this is by far the best debate format yet!

rasheedwallace
12-12-2007, 01:16 PM
oh god, fox sure has its pick.

look, they take away the graph whenever he talks and give him a full screen, then FLASH HIS NAME ON THE SCREEN!

oh wow, i hate fox news so much. these damn conservatives...

celticsman7
12-12-2007, 01:16 PM
What an answer about not having to sacrifice.

d991
12-12-2007, 01:16 PM
This debate is actually going pretty well. I hope they continue to give equal time to the candidates.

Well it's not moderated by CNN/FOX/MSNBC etc so it already is that much more fair.

angrydragon
12-12-2007, 01:16 PM
Free-market with RomneyCare???

crhoades
12-12-2007, 01:16 PM
Why in the world is the federal govt. worried about teenage pregnancy?!?!? I can just see Thomas Jefferson worrying about that back in the day.

Ben Elliott
12-12-2007, 01:16 PM
That was a good answer. "There's no need for sacrafice".

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:16 PM
HEY. Tancredo, friends don't steal friends' lines! D: There is only ONE Champion of the Constitution up there!

amonasro
12-12-2007, 01:17 PM
It seems Dr Paul is getting fair time

Everyone is getting fair time, thank GOD.

Upp, Tancredo just uttered the big C word!

cero
12-12-2007, 01:17 PM
WTF everyone's STEALING LINES FROM RON PAUL first Giuliani NOW TANCREDO

crhoades
12-12-2007, 01:17 PM
Tancredo - get 'em. Everyone is parrotting Paul now.

philistineau
12-12-2007, 01:17 PM
Danger Will Robinson - Tancredo flailing!!!

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 01:17 PM
Whoa...Did Tancredo say the "C" word? NICE! RP is already altering the larger conversation of this race :)

llepard
12-12-2007, 01:17 PM
HEY. Tancredo, friends don't steal friends' lines! D: There is only ONE Champion of the Constitution up there!

LOL

lnieves
12-12-2007, 01:17 PM
Tancredo sounds like Ron Paul:
Just follow the constitution

RedLightning
12-12-2007, 01:17 PM
I have to agree this debate is better then many of the others.

Delain
12-12-2007, 01:17 PM
Follow the constitution.. where have I heard that before?

Scruffy the Janitor
12-12-2007, 01:17 PM
Tancredo did well but spoke like a 13 year old

phrizek
12-12-2007, 01:18 PM
Wow, everyone jumping on the Ron Paul bandwagon.

azminuteman
12-12-2007, 01:18 PM
When did the candidates become the Champion of the Constitution?
Tancredo, Romney, Guiliani, and Keyes are now saying to follow the Constitution.

Peppy690
12-12-2007, 01:18 PM
good job Tancredo --- asshole

Primbs
12-12-2007, 01:18 PM
Boy they are talking about the constitution. Amazing.

280Z28
12-12-2007, 01:18 PM
Wow, everyone jumping on the Ron Paul bandwagon.

LOL not Thompson I see :o

hellah10
12-12-2007, 01:18 PM
LOL saying he will stay within the bounds of the constitution... how pathetic these candidates are getting... stealing RP

Scruffy the Janitor
12-12-2007, 01:18 PM
Everyone!!

rasheedwallace
12-12-2007, 01:19 PM
Why in the world is the federal govt. worried about teenage pregnancy?!?!?

lol romney sure is, its worse than undeclared war to him and his mormon clan.

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 01:19 PM
I hope the people who watch this aren't fooled by the other candidates pretending they've read the Constitution...

Ben Elliott
12-12-2007, 01:19 PM
I really do think people are trying to act like Ron Paul.

Menthol Patch
12-12-2007, 01:19 PM
These other candidates are trying to copy Ron Paul. But he is the only candidate that is serious about reducing government.

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:19 PM
Keyes is gonna slap a bitch.

RedLightning
12-12-2007, 01:19 PM
A question should be, "who actually has read the constitution."

DRV45N05
12-12-2007, 01:19 PM
Hey, I got in this late.

What questions have they asked Ron so far, and what was his answer?

What are the highlights so far?

crhoades
12-12-2007, 01:19 PM
And keys is only running to pay off the debt from his prior campaigns...

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 01:20 PM
lol...Keyes is my new 2nd favorite

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:20 PM
Ugh, Huck sounds like a Democrat. "I'll give you money if you vote for meeee!"

amonasro
12-12-2007, 01:20 PM
Keyes is gonna slap a bitch.


AHAHAHA

he didn't even come close to answering the question

Ben Elliott
12-12-2007, 01:20 PM
I like Alan Keyes' passion, but I always think it's oxymoronic for a black man to run Republican these days.

This coming from a black guy mind you.

njandrewg
12-12-2007, 01:20 PM
Keyes is gonna slap a bitch.
yeah

PatriotG
12-12-2007, 01:20 PM
This debate format is so much better than the network debates.

Wow, what a difference when everyone gets the same question and gets to answer

Yeah!
So far its very fair and level.

Im watching it at the office on CSPAN3

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3


To Hell with CNN!

PatriotG

Jesubub
12-12-2007, 01:20 PM
Not bad answer on taxes from Keyes

phrizek
12-12-2007, 01:20 PM
I can't wait to hear Ron's answer to this.

angrydragon
12-12-2007, 01:21 PM
Rich person like you Romney!

Ben Elliott
12-12-2007, 01:21 PM
Nobody has answered the question yet.

weagle
12-12-2007, 01:21 PM
I like Keyes and voted for him in 2000. I am more libertarian leaning than I was then so... I don't know now, I wish I could watch this.

crhoades
12-12-2007, 01:21 PM
My money is on Ron bringing up the inflation tax. takers?

Scruffy the Janitor
12-12-2007, 01:21 PM
Snap!!

amonasro
12-12-2007, 01:21 PM
Fred breaks the audience silence!

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 01:21 PM
lol...Romney isn't worried about rich man taxes because he knows they pay nothing

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:21 PM
Fred is supposed to keep it short. Uh huh. The only short is his acting career.

homah
12-12-2007, 01:21 PM
Ron, baby, say something about how if we spent at levels of 10 years ago we wouldn't need an income tax.

hellah10
12-12-2007, 01:21 PM
ron is gonna pwn this question

RedLightning
12-12-2007, 01:21 PM
inlfation tax ftw

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:22 PM
Why do people not want to hear about the inflation tax???

amonasro
12-12-2007, 01:22 PM
Wooo inflation tax!

great answer Ron

crhoades
12-12-2007, 01:22 PM
My money is on Ron bringing up the inflation tax. takers?

Winner!!!

llepard
12-12-2007, 01:22 PM
Home run!

JAM824A
12-12-2007, 01:22 PM
Why do people not want to hear about the inflation tax???

They don't know what it is.

njandrewg
12-12-2007, 01:22 PM
Ron is the only one who said the poor people are the ones getting screwed

280Z28
12-12-2007, 01:22 PM
NICE ANSWER (on the inflation tax) Ron :woot:

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 01:22 PM
why does Ron stop? Just go until she says something like everybody else.

Delain
12-12-2007, 01:23 PM
Inflation tax. Great answer!

Ben Elliott
12-12-2007, 01:23 PM
Ron Paul is the only one that actually answered the question.

d991
12-12-2007, 01:23 PM
Home run!

Ron Paul explains the inflation tax so well.. a video of him talking about how this tax comes about through the printing of money is what impressed me most about him.

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:23 PM
What? McCain's a veteran? I never knew! Thanks for telling us, John!

llepard
12-12-2007, 01:23 PM
They don't know what it is.

Disagree. Milk at $5.00 gallon. People know what that is. Inflation. Pure and simple.

Ben Elliott
12-12-2007, 01:23 PM
God, don't bring up thanksgiving again Mccain.

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 01:23 PM
any bets on what RP's free statement will be?!?

d991
12-12-2007, 01:23 PM
why does Ron stop? Just go until she says something like everybody else.

I've heard that audiences don't like when people go so far over their time so frequently that the moderator has to interrupt them.

amonasro
12-12-2007, 01:24 PM
WHAT THEY CAN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THEY WANT???

And they drew RANDOM ORDER

this is insane, I thought this was America :D

RoyalShock
12-12-2007, 01:24 PM
The audience who's impressions are being graphed are either shills or stupid. The one person, Paul, who actually answers the question is getting low ratings, particularly by the "conservatives".

llepard
12-12-2007, 01:24 PM
Right, you have lots of experience John.

And you are still wrong. What a shame.

phrizek
12-12-2007, 01:24 PM
McCain lives in a 1950's dream world.

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:24 PM
This debate is awesome!

Minuteman
12-12-2007, 01:24 PM
I really wish Fox would stop with the damn Frank Luntz graph.

rasheedwallace
12-12-2007, 01:24 PM
did mccain just say he could convince the people to implement a DRAFT indirectly???

angrydragon
12-12-2007, 01:24 PM
Hunter is a veteran?

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:25 PM
I'll say it again. Fuck you, Frank!

FluffyUnbound
12-12-2007, 01:25 PM
Yeah, Hunter is a big time veteran.

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 01:25 PM
wait...did I miss Paul's free 30 seconds of anything?

tamor
12-12-2007, 01:25 PM
The structure of the debate is effective

homah
12-12-2007, 01:25 PM
I really wish Fox would stop with the damn Frank Luntz graph.

Simple, turn on PBS. Fox is shit.

RedLightning
12-12-2007, 01:25 PM
did mccain just say he could convince the people to implement a DRAFT indirectly???

thats what it sounded like to me.

phrizek
12-12-2007, 01:26 PM
This is the best debate ever.

Scruffy the Janitor
12-12-2007, 01:26 PM
This is getting retarded

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:26 PM
RP is the only guy up there getting specific and to the point. Everyone else is all, "I have EXPERIENCE...I know why things HAPPEN...I'm a LEADER..."

amonasro
12-12-2007, 01:26 PM
Mitt looks a bit nervous... no softballs here friend!

homah
12-12-2007, 01:26 PM
thats what it sounded like to me.

yep, he did.

JAM824A
12-12-2007, 01:26 PM
I really wish Fox would stop with the damn Frank Luntz graph.

The people with control are too dumb to understand anything but demagog.

BLS
12-12-2007, 01:26 PM
I STILL don't SEE THE GRAPHS...I'm watching the FOX stream too

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 01:26 PM
lol...Romney: I make jobs come, and I make jobs go. I'm practicing up for when I get to become a God. :)

Scruffy the Janitor
12-12-2007, 01:26 PM
Fuck YOU FRANK!!!

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:26 PM
Huckabee referencing the Bible? I'm surprised it took him this long!

tamor
12-12-2007, 01:26 PM
RP free 30 sec hasn't been done yet

homah
12-12-2007, 01:26 PM
can mitt answer a single question without saying "as a businessman"?

Ben Elliott
12-12-2007, 01:27 PM
It's always three things with Huckabee.

philistineau
12-12-2007, 01:27 PM
Huckabee is slimy.... now he is starting to ramble though.

Ron needed to expand his answer just a little more.

Peppy690
12-12-2007, 01:27 PM
i wish Ron would expand on his positions a little more..... like getting rid of WTO and etc.

280Z28
12-12-2007, 01:27 PM
any bets on what RP's free statement will be?!?

His record

amonasro
12-12-2007, 01:27 PM
Huckabee:

"I can't part the Red Sea but I can part the red tape"

Ron Paul just lol'ed to himself

angrydragon
12-12-2007, 01:27 PM
Ron could have mentioned managed trade like NAFTA.

Lucid American
12-12-2007, 01:27 PM
I feel like this is phone porn or something. It's killing me that I can't watch this -- the streams are all full.

So, Paul's doing well, eh?

JAM824A
12-12-2007, 01:28 PM
How the fuck is McCain for more free market than Paul???

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 01:28 PM
I wish Ron would have said something about how government over regulation is driving jobs out of the US...

Minuteman
12-12-2007, 01:28 PM
ROFL, McCain just said he is the biggest propponant for Free Markets.

lnieves
12-12-2007, 01:28 PM
why does Ron stop? Just go until she says something like everybody else.

'cause he's the only decent guy there, respecting the time limits

phrizek
12-12-2007, 01:28 PM
Wow, McCain is the biggest free-trader we'll ever see. Lulz.

angrydragon
12-12-2007, 01:28 PM
McCain biggest free-trader?? haha What a joke.

homah
12-12-2007, 01:28 PM
WTF at McCain, contradicting himself from the last debate when he laughed at Paul, etc.

Cap'n Crunk
12-12-2007, 01:28 PM
McCain is dead right about subsidies, but will that go over well in Iowa??

Ben Elliott
12-12-2007, 01:28 PM
"I'm the biggest free trader and free marketer you'll ever see". Mccain is funny.

MrCobaltBlue
12-12-2007, 01:28 PM
Woot NAFTA question, go Paul!

amonasro
12-12-2007, 01:28 PM
Giuliani to aids:

"I was told there would be no NAFTA questions. What's NAFTA?"

Nash
12-12-2007, 01:29 PM
Did McCain just say he would get rid of ethanol subsidies....in Iowa?

ClayTrainor
12-12-2007, 01:29 PM
I feel like this is phone porn or something. It's killing me that I can't watch this -- the streams are all full.

So, Paul's doing well, eh?


Pauls doing phenomenal man!

aperetti
12-12-2007, 01:29 PM
What the hell is Rudy talking about? Just because NAFTA has free in it's name does not mean it's free....

RoamZero
12-12-2007, 01:29 PM
Mitt sounds scripted today.

Minuteman
12-12-2007, 01:29 PM
Every time Paul speaks, Franks turns the dial down

gracemonger
12-12-2007, 01:29 PM
McCain- I'm the biggest (free) traitor anyone has ever seen!

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:29 PM
Shut up, Fred! Next question, please.

ClayTrainor
12-12-2007, 01:29 PM
So NAFTA does exist and their acknowledging it eh? haha finally

Delain
12-12-2007, 01:30 PM
RP is the only guy up there getting specific and to the point. Everyone else is all, "I have EXPERIENCE...I know why things HAPPEN...I'm a LEADER..."

Exactly.

And the all the things their going to do, but they dont say how they are going to that. Just words, saying what they think the public wants to hear.

philistineau
12-12-2007, 01:30 PM
Yep

McCain just said no ethanol subsidies.

Byebye McCain.

lnieves
12-12-2007, 01:30 PM
I bet Paul says they should abolish NAFTA!

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:30 PM
Mitt sounds scripted today.

Did the sun rise in the east?

Jesubub
12-12-2007, 01:30 PM
McCain is dead right about subsidies, but will that go over well in Iowa??

Nope, Iowa loves its subsidies.

Fighting for legal hemp growth is a Paul needs to play.

BLS
12-12-2007, 01:30 PM
Every time Paul speaks, Franks turns the dial down


PLEASE send me a link to see this.

I'm watching the stream via FOX, but I don't see any graphs.
Do I need to click on something to see this in the pop up viewer, or is it on the home page of foxnews.com

paul_v
12-12-2007, 01:30 PM
Wow I am really liking the format of this debate. No bickering or anything.

That graph thing is not looking good for Dr. Paul. The conservatives hated the idea of relations with Cuba and eliminating our military bases.

And where the heck did Alan Keys come from? LOL it's like there's a mini Ron Paul up there.

homah
12-12-2007, 01:30 PM
Did Fred just say "I have nothing in particular to point out"?

Minuteman
12-12-2007, 01:30 PM
I kinda agree with some of what Tancredo is saying, and if you notice, every time Paul or him speak, Franks turns the dial down

MrCobaltBlue
12-12-2007, 01:31 PM
Ask Paul about NAFTA, the only one who knows his arse from his elbow concerning the Economy.

phrizek
12-12-2007, 01:31 PM
Why is Tancredo trying to sound like Paul?

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 01:31 PM
Did the sun rise in the east?

LMAO :> Brilliant

Hope
12-12-2007, 01:31 PM
Go Ron! Great statement!

JAM824A
12-12-2007, 01:32 PM
How is the graph not skyrocketing? I call bullshit!

philistineau
12-12-2007, 01:32 PM
No NAFTA question for Paul???

JeffersonThomas
12-12-2007, 01:32 PM
what!? Paul didn't get to comment on NAFTA?! :(

Tina
12-12-2007, 01:32 PM
Every time Paul speaks, Franks turns the dial down

That graph is ridiculous. How is supposed to work...I don't get it.

angrydragon
12-12-2007, 01:32 PM
Go Ron!!

MrCobaltBlue
12-12-2007, 01:32 PM
Is the dial going down when Ron Paul is talking about the constitution?