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dude58677
06-04-2018, 06:26 PM
He has broken nearly all Presidential traditions the last 100 years.

Anti Globalist
06-04-2018, 06:50 PM
The man literally spent the last 30-35 years getting ready for his eventual run of POTUS. Do people really think that Trump had no idea how the media was going to react? Do they think he didn't have any contingency plans put in place? He knew exactly how the media was going to react to his campaign and he was able to successfully pivot against them. Maybe if beta male cuck Ron Paul spent 3 decades planning his presidential run, he would have had a victory very similar to Trump.

dude58677
06-04-2018, 06:59 PM
The man literally spent the last 30-35 years getting ready for his eventual run of POTUS. Do people really think that Trump had no idea how the media was going to react? Do they think he didn't have any contingency plans put in place? He knew exactly how the media was going to react to his campaign and he was able to successfully pivot against them. Maybe if beta male cuck Ron Paul spent 3 decades planning his presidential run, he would have had a victory very similar to Trump.

Both Ron Paul and Donald Trump are anti-establishment but buy your logic Ron Paul could be eatablishment because he was in Congress for three decades. He even ran for President back in 1988. Aside from this both are clearly anti-establishment.

timosman
06-04-2018, 07:05 PM
Both Ron Paul and Donald Trump are anti-establishment but buy your logic Ron Paul could be eatablishment because he was in Congress for three decades. He even ran for President back in 1988. Aside from this both are clearly anti-establishment.

Thank you for preventing total gold collapse.

dude58677
06-04-2018, 07:13 PM
Thank you for preventing total gold collapse.

For Donald Trump to prepare his run for the White House as stated by antiglobalist he had to become a celebrity which meant building hotels, casinos, golf courses, professional boxing and wrestling matches, etc. So he did alot of good for this country while he waited. He didn't spend it like John McCain or Hillary Clinton as career and crooked politicians writing up bills that damaged America.

Ron Paul while he was in Congress he spent most of it voting only according to the Constitution.

If neither of these are anti-establishment then I don't know what is.

Anti-Neocon
06-04-2018, 08:58 PM
Based on the swamp beasts in his administration it is pretty safe to say he is not anti-establishment.

He's like what you'd get if you took the establishment and added a big dose of stupid to it.

So sure, stupidity separates him from the establishment and he's doing stuff that wouldn't be tried by others, but it's the wrong stuff and I find myself actually siding with the establishment in a lot of the "establishment vs Trump" disputes which are basically just Trump being clueless, egotistical, and often times dictatorial.

Being different from the establishment isn't all it's cracked up to be. Sometimes you can even be worse.

One positive takeaway from Trump winning though is that he's so bad at what he does that he's scaring Democrats and some Republicans into action against his power grabs to the point where I can see them actually doing stuff to limit executive power. That moment when Trump is too statist for the establishment that they actually act against statism.

nikcers
06-04-2018, 09:27 PM
Depends on who you define as the establishment. The Ron Paul people typically define them as the neocons. Trump has no shortage of neocons in his cabinet. If you don't define neocons as the establishment then you probably think he is pretty terrific.

enhanced_deficit
06-04-2018, 09:50 PM
He has broken nearly all Presidential traditions the last 100 years.

All except these few tiny things like supporting Big Police, Big Military, Big Oil, Big Goldman, global military police state , funded by a America-Firster zionist billionaire Sheldon Adelson , surrounded himself with Niki Haley, Bolton, Giulaini, John Hagee and other Israel Firsters. There were also rumor that large part of his cabinet came from Goldman Sachs but not confirmed if non-fakenews.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkZkgR0cEa0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkZkgR0cEa0


Trump Swears In Gina Haspel as C.I.A. Director, Praising Agency as the ‘Most Elite’ in the World
WASHINGTON
The New York Times


But at least he's not a big spender like past Presidents and is not continuing their wars.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcGMZ2RCcV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcGMZ2RCcV8

dude58677
06-05-2018, 08:08 AM
All except these few tiny things like supporting Big Police, Big Military, Big Oil, Big Goldman, global military police state , funded by a America-Firster zionist billionaire Sheldon Adelson , surrounded himself with Niki Haley, Bolton, Giulaini, John Hagee and other Israel Firsters. There were also rumor that large part of his cabinet came from Goldman Sachs but not confirmed if non-fakenews.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkZkgR0cEa0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkZkgR0cEa0


Trump Swears In Gina Haspel as C.I.A. Director, Praising Agency as the ‘Most Elite’ in the World
WASHINGTON
The New York Times


But at least he's not a big spender like past Presidents and is not continuing their wars.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcGMZ2RCcV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcGMZ2RCcV8

This is association of guilt. His policies are not much different than Rand Paul's and Rand Paul associated with Mitch McConnell.

dean.engelhardt
06-05-2018, 11:22 AM
How is Donald Trump not anti-establishment?

NATO; The Fed; Growing national debt; Growing DoD budget; Possibly national surveillance program. I think if Rand Paul was elected he would be much more anti-establish with these issues than Trump.