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Anti Federalist
05-31-2018, 09:07 AM
Like it or not, that's life in 2018 AmeriKa.

Do not spout off under your own name.

Like cops, the Internet Jacobins don't give a shit about right, wrong or justice.

Shut the fuck up.

Or, at the very least, own what you said, and prepare to ride out the shitstorm.

Groveling, sniveling, whining apologies are like bloody chum to a shark.




Like Roseanne, all Americans are just one bad tweet away from being fired

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-one-tweet-can-blow-up-your-life-2018-05-30

Published: May 31, 2018 9:23 a.m. ET


Roseanne Barr discovered that one bad tweet can upend your life — she’s not alone

If you use Twitter, you too are a public figure. And one egregious tweet could blow up your life.

On Tuesday, ABC DIS cancelled the wildly successful reboot of “Roseanne” after Roseanne Barr wrote a racist tweet about Valerie Jarrett, a former adviser in Barack Obama’s White House. Barr apologized, but the damage was done. Several members of her cast and ABC executives denounced her.

The cancelation of Barr’s show came some 11 hours after she sent the original tweet. “Roseanne’s Twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values, and we have decided to cancel her show,” Channing Dungey, president of ABC Entertainment, who is black, said in a statement. ICM Partners talent agency also dropped Barr.

The political climate puts all employers on high alert when it comes to the words and behavior of their employees.
The swiftness of ABC’s response is a testament to diversity in the C-suite and the speed with which news travels on social media, says Aram Sinnreich, professor of communications at the American University, Washington, D.C.

“It helps that there’s an African-American woman calling the shots,” he said. “It also reflects that, in the Trump age, the news cycle has accelerated so quickly that there’s a vanishingly small window for commercial entities to get out in front of these damaging public relations incidents. The ability to bury these kinds of stories has diminished to almost zero.”

This wasn’t Barr’s first racist tweet. So why now? The political climate is putting all employers on high alert when it comes to the words and behavior of their employees, Sinnreich says. “We’re understood to be private citizens, but when someone is the public face of a public corporation, that corporation should and must be held accountable for the actions of that individual,” he added.

Sinnreich says some people are frustrated with the lack of consequences when President Trump tweets racially-tinged comments. “Until the president is held accountable for the outrageous volume of hate speech that he generates, proxies are going to continue to come under the gun.” (President Trump has made incendiary remarks about Mexicans, Haitians and Nigerians.)

Workers are plugged into the news cycle. That does not mean you should share all your opinions on social media.
Many people are plugged into the news cycle all day long. One in five employers think staff is productive fewer than five hours a day, with most citing smartphone use as the culprit, a 2016 CareerBuilder report of hiring managers found.

That does not, however, mean you should share all your opinions on social media. The First Amendment protects free speech, but it may not protect your job if you do or say anything that is contrary to the company’s values, even if it’s a joke. In employment-at-will states, employees without a contract can be fired without cause.

“Twitter is today’s PR Newswire,” says Donna Francavilla, a communications specialist in Birmingham, Ala. “We think we’re talking to our followers and we think they’re all loyal to us and, if we issue an opinion, they’ll agree.” That’s not the case, she said. Often times, many people who follow Trump, for instance, may disagree with his views.

“It never used to be that way,” Francavilla said. “Social media used to be just you and your friends. But we’re now using this new megaphone to express our ideas to a much larger audience.” Anyone with a public Twitter account is a de facto public figure, she added. “We have to be mindful of every word we speak and everything we write.”

There have been some infamous cases. In December 2013, Justine Sacco, a PR executive for InterActiveCorp, IAC, +1.16% which runs dating websites Match.com and OkCupid, was fired after tweeting offensive comments about AIDS in Africa, before stepping on a plane to go there. Her tweet went viral while she was on the long-distance flight.

IAC said at the time: “The offensive comment doesn’t reflect the views and values of IAC.” Sacco later apologized “for being insensitive to this crisis,” and later said the tweet was intended to be satirical. She left IAC in January 2014 and returned in January 2018 as vice president of communications at Match Group.

There have been some infamous cases of people being fired for tweeting, even when they said it was satire.
Anthony Weiner, the former Democratic congressman for New York, last year began a 21-month prison sentence for sexting with a minor. But he first resigned in June 2011 after sending a sexually explicit photo of himself to a college student over Twitter.

At first, Weiner claimed that his account was hacked. While he lost his $174,000-a-year job — the standard salary for members of the House and the Senate — he walked away with the equivalent of around $1.2 million in retirement benefits after just a dozen years in office. He later expressed remorse: “These destructive impulses brought great devastation to family and friends, and destroyed my life’s dream of public service,” he said.

Even posting photographs or retweeting someone else’s tweet can be enough to get fired. Despite repeated warnings, people still get fired for sending an inappropriate photo or tweet. The problem with sites like Twitter and Instagram is that immediacy and informality are also social media’s greatest dangers, experts say.

And in many cases, there’s no turning back once you hit “send” and there are plenty of reasons not to. Case in point: Five workers on a dam in Oroville, Calif., were fired earlier this year for taking photos of the dam and posting them on Instagram despite a strict no social media and no photos policy at the site.

Employees often say their opinions do not reflect those of their company, but sometimes even that’s not enough.

For corporate America, the power of Twitter TWTR, +0.93% can work both ways. In February, Kylie Jenner, start of E!’s “Keeping Up with the Kardashians,” and a fashion empire mogul in her own right, tweeted that she was over Snapchat SNAP, +4.37%

“Sooo does anyone else not open Snapchat anymore? Or is it just me... ugh this is so sad,” Jenner tweeted to her 25.5 million Twitter followers. It was liked 374,555 times. Jenner, regarded by her fans as an arbiter of what’s not and what’s not, heard. Snapchat stock dropped 6% or $1.3 billion, also in part over its decision to redesign its interface. Jenner later tweeted, “still love you tho snap ... my first love.”

In fairness to American workers, it’s a double-edged sword: They’re often times encouraged to tweet and maintain an active social media presence. And employees, particularly those who are in the public eye, are often judged by how many followers they have on Twitter when they apply for jobs.

The role social media plays in workers’ lives is “not always clear-cut,” the Pew Research Center, a nonprofit think tank in Washington, D.C., found. Companies, in the meantime, must remind employees to state that their opinions do not reflect those of their company. But when it comes to crossing a line — whether it’s racism, homophobia or sexism — such caveats may not enough.

“This is not censorship,” Sinnreich says. “It’s about affiliation and the media’s role as amplifiers for political ideology. This story will be over in another 24 hours, but these stories will keep happening.”

enhanced_deficit
05-31-2018, 09:16 AM
Some more than others.
But hopefully she won't have to go on a radio or TV show and call herself an "a-hole" as Gary Oldman did on Kimmel to salvage his career.



It's ironic that she supports 'career destruction' of musicians, actors, artists who speak out against Israel's oppression:

https://youtu.be/aCJ1NdASA9Y?t=185

Roseanne Barr Wants to Run for Prime Minister of Israel (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?522721-Roseanne-Barr-Wants-to-Run-for-Prime-Minister-of-Israel&)

Part of transcript of video interview:

Host: Do you think celebrities, actors, musicians are afraid to speak out against Israel because then their career will be "destroyed" ?
Roseanne Barr: Yes I do think he's right about that and I think that's a damn good thing too.
[audience claps]




Related

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shakey1
05-31-2018, 09:25 AM
all Americans are just one bad tweet away from being fired

... except for Trump, I guess.

enhanced_deficit
05-31-2018, 09:27 AM
... except for Trump, I guess.

That crazy guy Michael Moore seems to be threatening MAGA now:

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/michael-moore-issues-cryptic-threat-roseanne-barr-donald-trump/

oyarde
05-31-2018, 09:39 AM
Not me , I do not tweet .

Anti Globalist
05-31-2018, 09:41 AM
Well its a good thing I don't have a twitter account.

Edit: Thats not completely true I made a twitter back in 2013 but I never use it. I don't even remember the password for it.

H_H
05-31-2018, 09:42 AM
"It helps that there’s an African-American woman calling the shots,"

No there's not.

I could tell you who is calling the shots. But you can probably figure that out on your own. If you want to.

H_H
05-31-2018, 09:47 AM
And wait, the whole 1,231-word article doesn't have the tweet anywhere? Really? This tweet is a top Super-Important Headline News Event but we can't even know what it was? I'm going to have to look it up myself? I'm not going to look it up. Wasting my time. Was it funny?

Something has turned. They're getting more locked down, more rigid. Nice.

jkr
05-31-2018, 09:57 AM
"FREEDOM OF SPEECH" MY SHINNY METAL AZZ!

kcchiefs6465
05-31-2018, 10:18 AM
Part of transcript of video interview:

Host: Do you think celebrities, actors, musicians are afraid to speak out against Israel because then their career will be "destroyed" ?
Roseanne Barr: Yes I do think he's right about that and I think that's a damn good thing too.
[audience claps]

Lmao.

opal
05-31-2018, 10:19 AM
And wait, the whole 1,231-word article doesn't have the tweet anywhere? Really? This tweet is a top Super-Important Headline News Event but we can't even know what it was? I'm going to have to look it up myself? I'm not going to look it up. Wasting my time. Was it funny?

Something has turned. They're getting more locked down, more rigid. Nice.

yeah really... no included tweet.. it's like the picture thread without pictures
smh

Anti Federalist
05-31-2018, 12:43 PM
yeah really... no included tweet.. it's like the picture thread without pictures
smh

I hang my head in posting shame...here ya go:

https://static01.********/images/2018/05/30/business/30ROSEANNE-tweet/30ROSEANNE-tweet-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale

Was she lying?

https://i.imgur.com/GsugcUS.jpg

jkr
05-31-2018, 01:06 PM
I hang my head in posting shame...here ya go:

https://static01.********/images/2018/05/30/business/30ROSEANNE-tweet/30ROSEANNE-tweet-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale

Was she lying?

https://i.imgur.com/GsugcUS.jpg

NOPE!

phill4paul
05-31-2018, 01:31 PM
Like it or not, that's life in 2018 AmeriKa.

Do not spout off under your own name.

Like cops, the Internet Jacobins don't give a shit about right, wrong or justice.

Shut the fuck up.

Or, at the very least, own what you said, and prepare to ride out the shitstorm.

Groveling, sniveling, whining apologies are like bloody chum to a shark.

Amen. The second she apologized the rage squad on social media screeched "It means nothing coming from her. She's a racist. Period. I hope she never works again!"

heavenlyboy34
05-31-2018, 02:27 PM
I'm still amazed by the people I know who FB and tweet using their real names and info. :eek:

TheTexan
05-31-2018, 02:53 PM
Wouldn't happen to me. I never say anything offensive

Swordsmyth
05-31-2018, 02:59 PM
Wouldn't happen to me. I never say anything offensive

I find your flaunting of your perfection offensive.

Krugminator2
05-31-2018, 03:01 PM
I like nothing about Roseanne. She is vulgar. And she is unfunny. But her Tweet really wasn't anything more offensive than the usual crap she Tweets. What actually is funny is that having any hint of racism gets you banned for life but being a Castro/Chavez/Karl Marx apologist carries no penalty. 100 million people died from Marxism put into practice. Somehow being a Commie isn't deemed offensive by the thought police.

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Swordsmyth
05-31-2018, 03:06 PM
No there's not.

I could tell you who is calling the shots. But you can probably figure that out on your own. If you want to.

"I want to mention Bob Iger, who is the CEO of Disney, called me before the announcement," Jarrett, 61, said (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/roseanne-barr-obama-adviser-baby-muslim-brotherhood-planet/story?id=55504982). "He apologized. He said he had zero tolerance for that sort of racist, bigoted comment and he wanted me to know before he made it public that he was canceling his show and so I appreciate that they did that so swiftly."

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-roseanne-apos-cancellation-valerie-145959332.html

heavenlyboy34
05-31-2018, 03:09 PM
I like nothing about Roseanne. She is vulgar. And she is unfunny. But her Tweet really wasn't anything more offensive than the usual crap she Tweets. What actually is funny is that having any hint of racism gets you banned for life but being a Castro/Chavez/Karl Marx apologist carries no penalty. 100 million people died from Marxism put into practice. Somehow being a Commie isn't deemed offensive by the thought police.

309124649244057600

992819288212951040

You get plausible deniability with Marxism because Marx himself was just a theorist/philosopher who lived off Engels his whole life and didn't *directly* hurt anyone, AFAIK. :P WRT other commies, you can just claim to be interested in them as ideologues.

VIDEODROME
05-31-2018, 03:27 PM
I hang my head in posting shame...here ya go:

https://static01.********/images/2018/05/30/business/30ROSEANNE-tweet/30ROSEANNE-tweet-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale

Was she lying?

https://i.imgur.com/GsugcUS.jpg

wtf

euphemia
05-31-2018, 04:25 PM
I'm not on Twitter.

Roseanne has never branded herself as upper crust and classy.

enhanced_deficit
05-31-2018, 04:55 PM
Various types of growing thought/speech police state naturally warrant outrage but in this particular case quick trick to contain outrage is to know that Roseanne Barr herself supports this:


Israel arrests 280 Palestinians for Facebook posts
middleeastmonitor
Nov 27, 2017

Roseanne Barr Wants to Run for Prime Minister of Israel (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?522721-Roseanne-Barr-Wants-to-Run-for-Prime-Minister-of-Israel&)





I'm not on Twitter.

Roseanne has never branded herself as upper crust and classy.

That was bit cold, people should be judged based on their endowed abilities.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgSIFG_SceA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgSIFG_SceA

kahless
05-31-2018, 04:57 PM
Amen. The second she apologized the rage squad on social media screeched "It means nothing coming from her. She's a racist. Period. I hope she never works again!"

Combined with being labeled God forbid {sic} a Trump supporter. She should have just went about her business after her usual shock jock tweet and paid it no mind. She spent years says the same outrageous things including one time about Susan Rice and ABC hired anyway.

If ABC really had a problem with her humor then they should not have hired her in the first place but this is really all about her support for Trump. If she and her supporters were smart they would make a huge case to that effect to bring down the head of ABC in retaliation.

phill4paul
05-31-2018, 05:08 PM
Combined with being labeled God forbid {sic} a Trump supporter. She should have just went about her business after her usual shock jock tweet and paid it no mind. She spent years says the same outrageous things including one time about Susan Rice and ABC hired anyway.

If ABC really had a problem with her humor then they should not have hired her in the first place but this is really all about her support for Trump. If she and her supporters were smart they would make a huge case to that effect to bring down the head of ABC in retaliation.

"Shock Jock." I'd forgotten about that term. Thanks.

parocks
05-31-2018, 05:16 PM
Like it or not, that's life in 2018 AmeriKa.

Do not spout off under your own name.

Like cops, the Internet Jacobins don't give a $#@! about right, wrong or justice.

Shut the $#@! up.

Or, at the very least, own what you said, and prepare to ride out the $#@!storm.

Groveling, sniveling, whining apologies are like bloody chum to a shark.




Like Roseanne, all Americans are just one bad tweet away from being fired

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-one-tweet-can-blow-up-your-life-2018-05-30

Published: May 31, 2018 9:23 a.m. ET


Roseanne Barr discovered that one bad tweet can upend your life — she’s not alone

If you use Twitter, you too are a public figure. And one egregious tweet could blow up your life.

On Tuesday, ABC DIS cancelled the wildly successful reboot of “Roseanne” after Roseanne Barr wrote a racist tweet about Valerie Jarrett, a former adviser in Barack Obama’s White House. Barr apologized, but the damage was done. Several members of her cast and ABC executives denounced her.

The cancelation of Barr’s show came some 11 hours after she sent the original tweet. “Roseanne’s Twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values, and we have decided to cancel her show,” Channing Dungey, president of ABC Entertainment, who is black, said in a statement. ICM Partners talent agency also dropped Barr.

The political climate puts all employers on high alert when it comes to the words and behavior of their employees.
The swiftness of ABC’s response is a testament to diversity in the C-suite and the speed with which news travels on social media, says Aram Sinnreich, professor of communications at the American University, Washington, D.C.

“It helps that there’s an African-American woman calling the shots,” he said. “It also reflects that, in the Trump age, the news cycle has accelerated so quickly that there’s a vanishingly small window for commercial entities to get out in front of these damaging public relations incidents. The ability to bury these kinds of stories has diminished to almost zero.”

This wasn’t Barr’s first racist tweet. So why now? The political climate is putting all employers on high alert when it comes to the words and behavior of their employees, Sinnreich says. “We’re understood to be private citizens, but when someone is the public face of a public corporation, that corporation should and must be held accountable for the actions of that individual,” he added.

Sinnreich says some people are frustrated with the lack of consequences when President Trump tweets racially-tinged comments. “Until the president is held accountable for the outrageous volume of hate speech that he generates, proxies are going to continue to come under the gun.” (President Trump has made incendiary remarks about Mexicans, Haitians and Nigerians.)

Workers are plugged into the news cycle. That does not mean you should share all your opinions on social media.
Many people are plugged into the news cycle all day long. One in five employers think staff is productive fewer than five hours a day, with most citing smartphone use as the culprit, a 2016 CareerBuilder report of hiring managers found.

That does not, however, mean you should share all your opinions on social media. The First Amendment protects free speech, but it may not protect your job if you do or say anything that is contrary to the company’s values, even if it’s a joke. In employment-at-will states, employees without a contract can be fired without cause.

“Twitter is today’s PR Newswire,” says Donna Francavilla, a communications specialist in Birmingham, Ala. “We think we’re talking to our followers and we think they’re all loyal to us and, if we issue an opinion, they’ll agree.” That’s not the case, she said. Often times, many people who follow Trump, for instance, may disagree with his views.

“It never used to be that way,” Francavilla said. “Social media used to be just you and your friends. But we’re now using this new megaphone to express our ideas to a much larger audience.” Anyone with a public Twitter account is a de facto public figure, she added. “We have to be mindful of every word we speak and everything we write.”

There have been some infamous cases. In December 2013, Justine Sacco, a PR executive for InterActiveCorp, IAC, +1.16% which runs dating websites Match.com and OkCupid, was fired after tweeting offensive comments about AIDS in Africa, before stepping on a plane to go there. Her tweet went viral while she was on the long-distance flight.

IAC said at the time: “The offensive comment doesn’t reflect the views and values of IAC.” Sacco later apologized “for being insensitive to this crisis,” and later said the tweet was intended to be satirical. She left IAC in January 2014 and returned in January 2018 as vice president of communications at Match Group.

There have been some infamous cases of people being fired for tweeting, even when they said it was satire.
Anthony Weiner, the former Democratic congressman for New York, last year began a 21-month prison sentence for sexting with a minor. But he first resigned in June 2011 after sending a sexually explicit photo of himself to a college student over Twitter.

At first, Weiner claimed that his account was hacked. While he lost his $174,000-a-year job — the standard salary for members of the House and the Senate — he walked away with the equivalent of around $1.2 million in retirement benefits after just a dozen years in office. He later expressed remorse: “These destructive impulses brought great devastation to family and friends, and destroyed my life’s dream of public service,” he said.

Even posting photographs or retweeting someone else’s tweet can be enough to get fired. Despite repeated warnings, people still get fired for sending an inappropriate photo or tweet. The problem with sites like Twitter and Instagram is that immediacy and informality are also social media’s greatest dangers, experts say.

And in many cases, there’s no turning back once you hit “send” and there are plenty of reasons not to. Case in point: Five workers on a dam in Oroville, Calif., were fired earlier this year for taking photos of the dam and posting them on Instagram despite a strict no social media and no photos policy at the site.

Employees often say their opinions do not reflect those of their company, but sometimes even that’s not enough.

For corporate America, the power of Twitter TWTR, +0.93% can work both ways. In February, Kylie Jenner, start of E!’s “Keeping Up with the Kardashians,” and a fashion empire mogul in her own right, tweeted that she was over Snapchat SNAP, +4.37%

“Sooo does anyone else not open Snapchat anymore? Or is it just me... ugh this is so sad,” Jenner tweeted to her 25.5 million Twitter followers. It was liked 374,555 times. Jenner, regarded by her fans as an arbiter of what’s not and what’s not, heard. Snapchat stock dropped 6% or $1.3 billion, also in part over its decision to redesign its interface. Jenner later tweeted, “still love you tho snap ... my first love.”

In fairness to American workers, it’s a double-edged sword: They’re often times encouraged to tweet and maintain an active social media presence. And employees, particularly those who are in the public eye, are often judged by how many followers they have on Twitter when they apply for jobs.

The role social media plays in workers’ lives is “not always clear-cut,” the Pew Research Center, a nonprofit think tank in Washington, D.C., found. Companies, in the meantime, must remind employees to state that their opinions do not reflect those of their company. But when it comes to crossing a line — whether it’s racism, homophobia or sexism — such caveats may not enough.

“This is not censorship,” Sinnreich says. “It’s about affiliation and the media’s role as amplifiers for political ideology. This story will be over in another 24 hours, but these stories will keep happening.”

ABC / Disney is one of the ones who has a lot of top executives having sex with little kids, right, or am I thinking of another company? Disney is the Mickey Mouse one with all the child molesters, yes?

parocks
05-31-2018, 05:35 PM
I hang my head in posting shame...here ya go:

https://static01.********/images/2018/05/30/business/30ROSEANNE-tweet/30ROSEANNE-tweet-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale

Was she lying?

https://i.imgur.com/GsugcUS.jpg


If Westworld got in on a 3way


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/14/14/4A2F0E2900000578-5500235-Top_of_the_crops_Thandie_Newton_was_worlds_away_fr om_her_usual_s-m-163_1521037350843.jpg


All 3 did or are doing much better than expected.

kahless
05-31-2018, 05:44 PM
If Westworld got in on a 3way

All 3 did or are doing much better than expected.

She should think about changing her hairstyle if she does not want to be compared to the chick from the Planet of the Apes.

parocks
05-31-2018, 06:08 PM
You get plausible deniability with Marxism because Marx himself was just a theorist/philosopher who lived off Engels his whole life and didn't *directly* hurt anyone, AFAIK. :P WRT other commies, you can just claim to be interested in them as ideologues.

Marx and Rothschild were somewhat close relatives.



https://pilgrimjustpilgrim.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/karl-marx-101.jpg

H_H
05-31-2018, 06:17 PM
ABC / Disney is one of the ones who has a lot of top executives having sex with little kids, right, or am I thinking of another company? Disney is the Mickey Mouse one with all the child molesters, yes?

That is indeed the one. #MeToo Millennium!

fedupinmo
05-31-2018, 06:47 PM
I hang my head in posting shame...here ya go:

https://static01.********/images/2018/05/30/business/30ROSEANNE-tweet/30ROSEANNE-tweet-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale

Was she lying?

https://i.imgur.com/GsugcUS.jpg

It wasn't racist either, it was political. She could have said "Muslims and Apes had a baby", but instead she mentioned two political entities... ;)

parocks
05-31-2018, 07:36 PM
It wasn't racist either, it was political. She could have said "Muslims and Apes had a baby", but instead she mentioned two political entities... ;)

I have no idea what racist means. I used to think I knew, I'd say I knew what it meant for decades. Now I'm thinking it's just not a thing.

H_H
05-31-2018, 07:56 PM
I have no idea what racist means. I used to think I knew, I'd say I knew what it meant for decades. Now I'm thinking it's just not a thing.
MAGA is unstoppable.

Swordsmyth
05-31-2018, 08:14 PM
MAGA is unstoppable.

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP. i8Ij26RFl1Gs9e42GndHsQHaHa%26pid%3D15.1&f=1

Deus Vult!

Anti Federalist
06-22-2018, 03:53 AM
ABC's 'Roseanne' Spinoff Officially a Go — Without Roseanne Barr

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/roseanne-spinoff-conners-officially-a-go-at-abc-1117397

After canceling the comedy following star Roseanne Barr's racist tweet, the Disney-owned network has found a way to move forward with the original cast, creators and likely crew as 'The Conners.'
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After canceling the comedy following star Roseanne Barr's racist tweet, the Disney-owned network has found a way to move forward with the original cast, creators and likely crew as 'The Conners.'
Weeks after its stunning decision to cancel Roseanne, ABC is officially moving forward with a spinoff of TV's current No. 1 series — without controversial star Roseanne Barr.

Following aggressive talks with exec producer Tom Werner, the Disney-owned broadcaster has handed out a 10-episode, straight-to-series order for Roseanne spinoff The Conners (working title). The new take, which will also be a multicamera comedy and premiere in the fall, will follow the Conner family who, after a sudden turn of events, are forced to face the daily struggles of life in Lanford in a way they never have before.

ABC stressed in its announcement Thursday that former star Barr will have no financial or creative involvement in the new series. Werner and Barr reached an agreement that will allow Werner Entertainment to produce the spinoff for ABC without Barr’s further creative or financial participation. Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that Barr will retain all rights to her Roseanne Conner character and any future spinoffs beyond The Conners or any future reboots of the original.

"I regret the circumstances that have caused me to be removed from Roseanne. I agreed to the settlement in order that 200 jobs of beloved cast and crew could be saved, and I wish the best for everyone involved,” Barr said in a statement. Added Werner: “We are grateful to have reached this agreement to keep our team working as we continue to explore stories of the Conner family.”

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ABC's 'Roseanne' Spinoff Clears Key Hurdle as Negotiations Heat Up
Roseanne stars John Goodman, Laurie Metcalf, Sara Gilbert, Lecy Goranson and Michael Fishman will star in the spinoff. Additional castmembers and a premiere date will be announced at a later date. "We have received a tremendous amount of support from fans of our show, and it’s clear that these characters not only have a place in our hearts, but in the hearts and homes of our audience," Goodman, Metcalf, Gilbert, Goranson and Fishman said in a joint statement. "We all came back last season because we wanted to tell stories about the challenges facing a working-class family today. We are so happy to have the opportunity to return with the cast and crew to continue to share those stories through love and laughter.”

ABC says the new take will explore issues with parenthood, dating an unexpected pregnancy, financial pressures, aging and in-laws in working-class America. The series will take over Roseanne's Tuesdays at 8 p.m. time slot. The Conners hails from the creative team behind what was to be the 11th season of Roseanne, including showrunner Bruce Helford, Gilbert, Dave Caplan, Bruce Rasmussen and Tony Hernandez. The series hails from Werner and Werner Entertainment.

"The Conners’ stories demonstrate that families can always find common ground through conversation, laughter and love. The spinoff will continue to portray contemporary issues that are as relevant today as they were 30 years ago,” ABC said in a statement.

Despite multiple reports that the network was open to a new take on Roseanne, the decision to move forward with a new version of the series should still be seen as a surprise, given the considerable obstacles that had to be overcome in order to move forward.

A major point of contention was to find a way to reinvent Roseanne that would not financially benefit Barr, which was said to be a top demand from ABC Entertainment president Channing Dungey and Werner. The series was created by Matt Williams (the show's first showrunner, who departed in season one after clashing with the actress) and is based upon a character (yes, singular) created by Barr.

As THR previously reported, Barr had agreed in principle to walk away from the characters she helped create in order to allow the cast and crew to pursue a spinoff. But since Barr would be entitled to substantial fees and backend on a Roseanne spinoff, the actress had to waive those rights before a new take could move forward. The last key hurdle was over what, if any, one-time payment Barr was to receive as "go-away money," as one source put it. Barr will retain an executive producer credit on the new take, per WGA rules.


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Talks to continue the series heated up almost immediately following the cancellation after exec producer Werner, whose Carsey-Werner banner produced the original series and the 10th season, became highly engaged in finding a new path forward. (Werner's longtime partner, Marcy Carsey, recently said that she would not try to revive the comedy following its cancellation.)

The move to breathe new life into the franchise comes as Disney was on the hook to pay stars Gilbert (who plays Darlene), Metcalf (Jackie) and Goodman (Dan) for the since-scrapped 11th season. The trio, along with Barr, negotiated new deals for the 13-episode season at $300,000 per episode (up from $250,000 for season 10). They expected to be paid for at least 10 episodes since their options were exercised. What was less clear was if and how the writing staff, including showrunner Helford, were to be compensated.

Following the cancellation, ABC found itself in a unique position. Roseanne was due to return in the fall and open the network's Tuesday lineup as ABC was briefly poised to head into the 2018-19 broadcast season without TV's top show and without a new series from Shonda Rhimes (Grey's Anatomy, Scandal) for the first time in years. Roseanne was expected to drive at least $60 million in ad revenue for its 11th season, according to Kantar Media. ABC, sources said, may have been on the hook for "tens of millions of dollars" after axing the series.


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ABC on May 29 canceled Roseanne after Barr's racist tweet directed at Valerie Jarrett, a senior adviser to former President Barack Obama. The star, who has been an outspoken advocate for President Donald Trump, later apologized and said she "begged" Disney-ABC TV Group president Ben Sherwood not to cancel the series. (ABC declined comment on that at the time, though multiple sources within the network contend that conversation never happened and Barr has since deleted that tweet.)

In a memo to staff following the cancellation, Sherwood apologized to the then-unemployed staff of Roseanne and expressed hope that the network could find a way to work together down the road. The new incarnation of Roseanne saved those jobs as staffing season had already been completed for all the broadcast series and many involved with the production turned down other jobs to stay with the comedy.

Roseanne was slated to return in the fall for an expanded 11th season of 13 episodes as ABC looked to build on the show's momentum. In a victory lap of sorts, Barr was the centerpiece of ABC's upfront presentation to Madison Avenue ad buyers in May. (Barr joked in introducing Sherwood onstage that he was the man behind her Twitter feed.) The revival was part of a larger effort by Dungey — broadcast's lone African-American network topper — to cater to the underserved community who turned out in force to elect Trump. The success of the Roseanne revival has prompted other broadcast networks to pick up a wave of multicamera comedies in a larger push to program for middle America. (To that end, Fox revived Tim Allen comedy Last Man Standing a year after ABC's cancellation.)

thoughtomator
06-22-2018, 05:05 AM
Peter Fonda proves not ALL Americans are one, two, or even three tweets from being fired.

Even if the tweets target a minor for kidnapping and gang rape.

Weston White
06-22-2018, 07:05 AM
What is a "twitter", is it like a thing for people that act like twits?

Weston White
06-22-2018, 07:23 AM
You get plausible deniability with Marxism because Marx himself was just a theorist/philosopher who lived off Engels his whole life and didn't *directly* hurt anyone, AFAIK. :P WRT other commies, you can just claim to be interested in them as ideologues.

Under the misconstrued theories of modern SJWs his works are worthy of censorship for inciting violence and hatred; and by the standards of the modern "blue line" are worthy of censorship due to suspicion of treason and espionage.

heavenlyboy34
06-22-2018, 02:31 PM
Under the misconstrued theories of modern SJWs his works are worthy of censorship for inciting violence and hatred; and by the standards of the modern "blue line" are worthy of censorship due to suspicion of treason and espionage.

o kurwa :D

enhanced_deficit
06-23-2018, 02:00 PM
In related news:



June 22, 2018
by Bryn Elise Sandberg, Lesley Goldberg

Netflix Fires PR Chief After Use of N-Word in Meeting (Exclusive)

https://cdn1.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/scale_crop_768_433/2018/06/jonathan_friedland_0.jpg Jacopo Raule/Getty Images
Jonathan Friedland

In lengthy internal memo, CEO Reed Hastings addressed letting go top communications executive Jonathan Friedland: "His descriptive use of the N-word on at least two occasions at work showed unacceptably low racial awareness and sensitivity."
Netflix is letting go of its top communications spokesman.
Jonathan Friedland, who's served as the streaming giant's chief communications officer for the past six years, is out at the company after "insensitive" remarks he made to his team. Sources say that Friedland used the N-word in a meeting with other Netflix staffers, some of whom later reported the incident. Per insiders, Netflix CEO Reed Hastings sent a company-wide email explaining Friedland's firing around 12:45 p.m. PT on Friday (see below for the full memo.)

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/jonathan-friedland-exits-netflix-1122675

Swordsmyth
08-11-2018, 05:20 PM
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timosman
08-12-2018, 12:24 AM
112332199386296320

Anti Federalist
08-12-2018, 12:46 AM
Some animals are more equal than others.

timosman
08-12-2018, 12:56 AM
Some animals are more equal than others.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhY9Zxv1-oo

dannno
10-13-2018, 11:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTAfy_nzJiw

Swordsmyth
10-29-2018, 04:05 PM
Over the weekend, Barr spoke out about the mass shooting at the Tree of Life Synagogue (https://www.yahoo.com/news/horrific-crime-scene-pittsburgh-synagogue-203803649.html) in Pittsburgh, which was carried out by a man who made anti-Semitic statements during the shooting and targeted Jews on social media prior to the attack. The comedian, who is Jewish, wrote on Twitter that she prays “this terrible attack on Jews will be the catalyst for Americans to finally wake up” and address the “deep and rife scourge of racist anti-Semitic bigotry that exists in our country.”

I pray that this terrible attack on Jews will be the catalyst for Americans to finally wake up as to the deep and rife scourge of racist anti-Semitic bigotry that exists in our country.
— Roseanne Barr (@therealroseanne) October 28, 2018 (https://twitter.com/therealroseanne/status/1056615668013907968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)



While she expressed a seemingly sincere and definitely important sentiment, commenters were quick to redirect the conversation back to her own remark comparing Jarrett, a former adviser to then-President Barack Obama, to an ape. In essence: Yes, anti-Semitic bigotry is wrong — and so is “all racism.”

Look who’s talking.
— Hella Priefer (@HellaPriefer) October 28, 2018 (https://twitter.com/HellaPriefer/status/1056617453201973248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




This coming from a racist.
— Justin LeBlanc (@JustinL61177560) October 29, 2018 (https://twitter.com/JustinL61177560/status/1056888359052894209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




Yes Roseanne. All racism is bad, regardless of race, creed, nationailty or religion.
— Ann Brown (@AnnBrow30209255) October 28, 2018 (https://twitter.com/AnnBrow30209255/status/1056676168508809216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




Yeppers the voice of reason and compassion
— Wyatt Smith (@azwyatt1) October 28, 2018 (https://twitter.com/azwyatt1/status/1056654336988635136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




The irony here. Lmao.
— ColoradoWildFeathers (@HippieChicCeo) October 28, 2018 (https://twitter.com/HippieChicCeo/status/1056667730852507649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




Roseanne said something nice? Must be an Ambien post.
— Chris Richardson ☀☈ (@ThunderySkye) October 28, 2018 (https://twitter.com/ThunderySkye/status/1056692619865055232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




Well that’s an changed tune
— Kerry Raibley (@KRaibley) October 29, 2018 (https://twitter.com/KRaibley/status/1056701706572980224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




pic.twitter.com/NbChdJHC9F (https://t.co/NbChdJHC9F)
— Siobhan Marie Day (@MarieSiobsbhndy) October 29, 2018 (https://twitter.com/MarieSiobsbhndy/status/1056848697089318913?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)



Critics also pointed out Barr’s ties to President Trump, whose own hate speech and refusal to condemn racist groups like the KKK has led to toxicity in the country. (Trump did speak out against this attack (https://finance.yahoo.com/video/trump-responds-deadly-shooting-pittsburgh-183611752.html), though many, including the mayor of Pittsburgh, have taken issue with his saying there should have been an armed guard in the synagogue (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pittsburgh-mayor-opposes-trumps-call-arm-synagogues-153259200.html).)

Starting Wth you and Trump.
— LizNegroni (@liznegroni) October 29, 2018 (https://twitter.com/liznegroni/status/1056698028457951233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




Well the person you love so much has followers that are nazi's and you defeated them plus are you forgetting you made fun of Jews too… pot painting the kettle black
— Christina Arnold/Jones (@xXxCLEOBABYxXx) October 29, 2018 (https://twitter.com/xXxCLEOBABYxXx/status/1056878003962155008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




Talk to 45. But that's okay, nothing will happen.
— Sandy G (@sgourley2b) October 29, 2018 (https://twitter.com/sgourley2b/status/1056875826388512771?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




Led by your boy @realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) ……………
— Travis (@derke03) October 29, 2018 (https://twitter.com/derke03/status/1056701334718693376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




Then you should stop supporting Trump . A main catalyst in inspiring the Hatred he spews. Your Buddy
— Guadalupe Sierra (@Lupe0110) October 29, 2018 (https://twitter.com/Lupe0110/status/1056855231282249730?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)



Pretty quickly, the image of Barr dressed as Hitler (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/roseanne-barr-slammed-dressing-nazi-235859481.html) started popping up. (Here’s the backstory (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-roseanne-pose-as-adolf-hitler-photo-shoot/). It was for a satirical Jewish magazine, but many obviously still found it offensive.)

Did you feel this way when you posed for this photo shoot? pic.twitter.com/ixQTjh9S4F (https://t.co/ixQTjh9S4F)
— Alex Williams (@RadtownUSA) October 28, 2018 (https://twitter.com/RadtownUSA/status/1056689762919043074?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




Hypocrite!!! pic.twitter.com/kOrA7nmIKE (https://t.co/kOrA7nmIKE)
— rob ingram (@calirob1208) October 29, 2018 (https://twitter.com/calirob1208/status/1056740836359065600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)






More at: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/look-whos-talking-roseanne-barr-slammed-tweet-calling-racist-anti-semitic-bigotry-exists-country-synagogue-shooting-145326414.html



Once you are an unperson you can't ever be human again no matter how you try.

Never apologize when the left demands it.

Origanalist
10-29-2018, 08:26 PM
You can't fire me, I don't work for anyone but myself.

Anti Federalist
10-29-2018, 08:43 PM
Once you are an unperson you can't ever be human again no matter how you try.

Never apologize when the left demands it.

You are right, if accused by the Jacobins never, ever, EVER "apologize".

Double, triple down if you have to.

Take the fight right back to them, and never give up.

The second you show sympathy, weakness or empathy, they will win, and utterly destroy you.

enhanced_deficit
12-01-2018, 12:13 AM
CNN Fires Marc Lamont Hill Over Israel Comments (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528871-CNN-Fires-Marc-Lamont-Hill-Over-Israel-Comments&)

Swordsmyth
12-11-2018, 08:00 PM
https://www.thenewamerican.com/media/k2/items/cache/6c63b85a7a05a542652792bf92eaa7f7_XL.jpg

It was certainly one of the greatest nights of his life. Kyler Murray (shown), the quarterback for the storied football program at the University of Oklahoma, had just won college football’s most coveted award — the Heisman Trophy — giving the Sooners their seventh winner (a number matched only by the historic programs of Notre Dame and Ohio State), when USA Today decided to dig up tweets Murray made when he was a 15-year-old boy in Allen, Texas.

Scott Gleeson, a USA Today writer based in Chicago, who, by his own admission, “focuses on issues outside the general sports arena — on LGBT athletes and coaches” and other such “social issues” — reported that Murray had evidently not been as politically correct when he was 15 as Gleeson felt he should have been. Gleeson wrote, “But the Oklahoma quarterback’s memorable night also helped resurface social media’s memory of several homophobic tweets more than six years old.”

Gleeson said, “When Murray was 15 years old, he tweeted at his friends (via his since-verified Twitter account) using an anti-gay slur to defame them. Four offensive tweets remained active on his account late Saturday night.

That a reporter would actually dig up remarks made by a teenage boy bantering with his friends in order to throw a cloud over his great night is certainly reprehensible, but not surprising. After all, one only has to recall how Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee chose to dig up an old high-school yearbook in a vain effort to smear Judge Brett Kavanaugh, and keep him off the Supreme Court. But, of course, that is politics. Apparently, to some on the Left, nothing is off limits, even if someone is not running for political office.

More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/item/30880-usa-today-trashes-heisman-trophy-winner-for-tweets-he-sent-when-he-was-15

phill4paul
12-12-2018, 06:24 AM
Let me guess. He called them f.ags?

shakey1
12-12-2018, 06:55 AM
... nothing is off limits, even if someone is not running for political office.

#FUKTWITTER