North Korea threatens to cancel summit with Trump

[enhanced_deficit]

Bit of surprising news while Trump and allies were busy celeberating Israel embassy move/teaching Palestinian protesters a lesson. Timing of this move does not indicate that NK's leader was trolling Trump earlier / now is trying to put extra pressure on Trump who had already announced the summit and started using it as a political talking point.



Kim Jong-un Wants US Promise Not to Invade in Exchange for Nukes
New York Magazine Apr 29, 2018

But it is still surprising that such a high profile summit could have been planned without such details being discussed beforehand?



North Korea threatens to cancel summit with Trump over military drills

State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said that the U.S. will continue planning for the Trump-Kim summit despite a North Korean threat to pull out. (Reuters)

by Anna Fifield May 15 at 4:15 PM

SEOUL — North Korea is casting doubt on next month’s summit between leader Kim Jong Un and President Trump over joint Air Force drills taking place in South Korea, which it says are ruining the diplomatic mood.
North Korea always reacts angrily to the joint U.S.-South Korea military exercises, considering them as a rehearsal for an invasion. But this year, with the sudden burst of diplomacy, had appeared to be different.
The South Korean and U.S. militaries had scaled back and played down the exercises, declining the news media the usual access to the drills. North Korea barely said a word about the drills during the computer simulation exercises that took place through April.
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The threat by North Korea to cancel the summit now would seem to contradict the message that South Korean national security adviser Chung Eui-yong brought to the White House in March, when Kim volunteered to meet with Trump. At that time, Kim’s message was that North Korea would refrain from additional nuclear or missile testing and understood “that the routine joint military exercises between the Republic of Korea and the United States must continue.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/north-korea-threatens-to-cancel-summit-with-trump-over-military-drills/2018/05/15/04a15a5e-5878-11e8-8b92-45fdd7aaef3c_story.html







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North Korea cites Muammar Gaddafi's 'destruction' in nuclear test defence
Pyongyang says the fates of the late Libyan leader and Saddam Hussein show the need for a nuclear deterrent

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...t-defence.html (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/12090658/North-Korea-cites-Muammar-Gaddafis-destruction-in-nuclear-test-defence.html)

[Swordsmyth]

Update: The State Department says it had not received any information from North Korea concerning a threat to cancel the historic US-North Korea summit set for June 12. The State Department said it's still operating under the assumption that the Singapore summit is still happening.
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More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-15/north-korea-cancels-meeting-south-over-military-drills

[enhanced_deficit]

North Korea cancels meeting with South Korea (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/15/north-korea-cancels-scheduled-meeting-with-south-korea-reports.html)

North Korea cancels meeting with South Korea, threatens to ditch summit with US over military drills



North Korea abruptly canceled talks with South Korea scheduled for Wednesday, according to media reports.
North Korea's state-run Central News Agency said the ongoing joint military drills between the U.S. and South Korea are a "provocation" and a preparation for an invasion.
The Associated Press, citing Yonhap, reported that North Korea is also threatening to cancel the talks with the U.S. because of the joint military exercises.


Kevin Breuninger | Amanda Macias
Published 3 Hours Ago Updated 34 Mins Ago



Hopefully problems will be worked out and it won't go back to crazy tweet storms and 'dotard' type uncivil attacks.

[enhanced_deficit]

Update: The State Department says it had not received any information from North Korea concerning a threat to cancel the historic US-North Korea summit set for June 12. The State Department said it's still operating under the assumption that the Singapore summit is still happening.




Hopefully not but this could be negotiation tactic #6, keeping 'em wondering. I think tactic #3 was changing the meeting location at the last minute. (h/t Michael Scott/The Office)
But in any case, one thing that American voters cannot accept is that KJU is a better negotiator than our historic leader.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tel5mOZ71nA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tel5mOZ71nA

[enhanced_deficit]

If POTUS cancelled military drill now after KJU's public threat to cancel summit, he would get bit of upper hand even before the start of summit.


Did North Korea just yank the football — and Trump's Nobel Prize — away? (http://www.latimes.com/opinion/la-ol-enter-the-fray-did-north-korea-just-yank-the-football-1526419839-htmlstory.html)
Opinion Los Angeles Times 52m ago

[Raginfridus]

If Kim withdrew from summit with Trump, that would suck, but could also be funny for a week or two. Let's wait until all the facts are in.

[Zippyjuan]

North Korea isn't going to give up their nukes anyways.

[Swordsmyth]

Update II: North Korea's decision to suspend talks with the South after abruptly cancelling an inter-Korean summit set for Wednesday has apparently rattled the US.
In what appears to be a concession to North Korea - or at least, a hypothetical one - Yonhap reported Tuesday night that the US is considering withholding its B-52 bombers from joint exercises with South Korea taking place this week.
In a return to its pre-detente rhetoric, North Korea said Tuesday that it felt threatened by the exercises, and threatened to retaliate.
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More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-15/north-korea-cancels-meeting-south-over-military-drills

[brushfire]

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[TheCount]

They're counting on Trump being emotionally invested in the positive press that he's pre-received for a yet-to-be-accomplished deal. It's a good call to make on their part. He's like a customer at the car dealership who's already got the keys in his pocket.

[TheTexan]

http://memecrunch.com/meme/QN0G/ask-gaddafi/image.jpg

+rep

America will not tolerate their insolence

[timosman]

This is embarrassing for us. It couldn't wait?:confused:

[enhanced_deficit]

Yes it would be embarassing if cancelled.


North Korea isn't going to give up their nukes anyways.

They're counting on Trump being emotionally invested in the positive press that he's pre-received for a yet-to-be-accomplished deal. It's a good call to make on their part. He's like a customer at the car dealership who's already got the keys in his pocket.

Who's the master negotiator between these two?


CBS/AP May 15, 2018, 11:07 PM
North Korea threatens to pull out of U.S. summit if ordered to give up nuclear weapons

SEOUL, South Korea -- North Korea's first vice foreign minister says the country has no interest in a summit (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-kim-jong-un-meeting-location-singapore/) with the United States if it's going to be a "one-sided" affair where it's pressured to give up its nukes. The statement by Kim Kye Gwan on Wednesday came hours after the North abruptly canceled a high-level meeting with South Korea and threatened to do the same with a planned summit between leader Kim Jong Un and President Trump next month.
Kim Kye Gwan criticized recent comments by Mr. Trump's top security adviser John Bolton and other U.S. officials who have been talking about how the North should follow the "Libyan model" of nuclear disarmament and provide a "complete, verifiable and irreversible dismantlement."
He also criticized other U.S. comments that the North should completely abandon not only its nukes and missiles but also its biological and chemical weapons.

Kim says: "We will appropriately respond to the Trump administration if it approaches the North Korea-U.S. summit meeting with a truthful intent to improve relations."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-korea-reportedly-threatens-to-pull-out-us-summit-over-military-exercises-today-2018-05-15/

[enhanced_deficit]

Seems like there may be two testers here.




http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/204/photos/238000/trump-tweet-1085238.jpg


https://localtvwghp.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/s083957599.jpg?quality=85&strip=all&w=400&h=225&crop=1



Kim is testing Trump.
He is trying to do (https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/23/asia/north-korea-kim-jong-un-negotation-skills-intl/index.html) precisely what his father and grandfather before him managed to pull off: extract concessions, economic and political gains, while making small concessions or promises they later failed to keep.


Pyongyang's sudden indignation at this week's US-South Korea exercises, known as "Max Thunder," is a sham. The annual exercises are aimed at maintaining military coordination between the United States and its ally, to remain ready in case of a North Korean attack. After all, North Korea has attacked (http://www.bbc.com/news/10130248)in the past.



Pyongyang knew Max Thunder was coming. In fact, last March, shortly after visiting Pyongyang, the South Korean national security adviser said in a statement (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/08/world/asia/transcript-south-korea-nuclear-trump.html) that "[Kim] understands that the routine joint military exercises between the Republic of Korea and the United States must continue. And he expressed his eagerness to meet President Trump as soon as possible."

Kim is trying to find out just how much Trump is willing to do to prevent the collapse of the summit.

Not long after the surprise announcement, the Pentagon appeared to suggest (http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-kim-jong-un-summit-us-south-korea-drills-exercises-2018-5)it will not budge. We'll see how Trump responds.

Giving in to Kim on the exercises would constitute another concession in what are already lopsided pre-summit negotiations. North Korea has always wanted the military exercises to end. That should be an item for negotiation, not a concession ahead of the talks.

Already, Trump, whose administration has lost its top nuclear and North Korean experts, has given Kim much of what he wanted. For decades North Korea wanted a top-level meeting (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-summit-trump-anal/long-sought-by-north-korea-summit-holds-risks-for-trump-administration-idUSKCN1GL0W1) with US officials. Trump has not only granted it in exchange for not very much but has also been praising Kim, calling him "very honorable (https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/24/politics/trump-kim-jong-un-honorable/index.html)" and "really excellent (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/06/13/otto-warmbier-has-been-freed-but-3-other-americans-remain-prisoners-in-north-korea/)."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/15/opinions/north-korea-testing-trump-opinion-ghitis/index.html

[enhanced_deficit]

This kind of name calling shoud not be acceptable in the pre-summit phase:



North Korea says it may blow off Trump meeting, and 'sinister' US won't make it give up nukes (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/15/north-korea-says-it-rejects-libya-style-denuclearization-reuters.html)

North Korea said it will reconsider a June 12 meeting with President Donald Trump if Washington insists on Pyongyang relinquishing nuclear weapons.
Earlier, the isolated state abruptly canceled talks with South Korea in protest over Washington and Seoul's joint military drills.




Published 10 Hours Ago Updated 48 Mins Ago

https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/05/09/105196324-RTX5U767.600x400.jpg?v=1526444876 (https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/05/16/north-korea-talks.html) North Korea cancels talks with South Korea 9 Mins Ago | 01:49
(https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/05/16/north-korea-talks.html)

North Korea on Wednesday injected further uncertainty into plans for a highly anticipated summit between leader Kim Jong Un and President Donald Trump.

In a statement carried by state news agency KCNA (http://www.kcna.kp/kcna.user.article.retrieveNewsViewInfoList.kcmsf), North Korea's First Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs Kim Kye Gwan said his country will reconsider the historic June 12 meeting (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/10/singapore-offers-benefits-to-trump-and-kim-jong-un.html) if the U.S. insists on Pyongyang relinquishing its nuclear weapons.
The development is the latest sign of possible backtracking by Kim following the ruler's months-long international charm offensive that was widely hoped to clear tensions on the Korean Peninsula. Earlier, the rogue state canceled talks with South Korea and threatened to ditch the June 12 summit (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/15/north-korea-cancels-scheduled-meeting-with-south-korea-reports.html) in protest over Washington and Seoul's joint military drills.
Wednesday's news "is classic North Korean playbook," said Sean King, senior vice president at consulting firm Park Strategies.
Ongoing peace efforts, which include Kim's summit with South Korean leader Moon Jae-In (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/26/south-korea-north-korea-meet-nuclear-policy-may-not-feature-in-talks.html) last month, may "be moving faster than North Korea ever expected and this is sort of their passive-aggressive excuse to get out of it," he continued.

https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/05/16/105210670-AP_18133148666466.530x298.jpg?v=1526445620 (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/15/north-korea-says-it-rejects-libya-style-denuclearization-reuters.html#) Ahn Young-joon | AP

A man watches a TV screen showing U.S. President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un during a news program at the Seoul Railway Station.

No Libya-style denuclearization

Recent "unbridled remarks" from Washington prior to the June 12 meeting constituted signs of "unjust" behavior, Kim Kye Gwan stated.
Specifically naming National Security Advisor John Bolton (https://www.cnbc.com/id/105059762), the North Korean minister said U.S. officials are "letting loose the assertions of so-called Libya mode of nuclear abandonment" and discussing a formula of "abandoning nuclear weapons first [and] compensating afterwards."
That amounts to "awfully sinister" moves to impose on North Korea "the destiny of Libya or Iraq, which had been collapsed due to yielding the whole of their countries to big powers," the minister said, stressing that Pyongyang rejects Libya-style denuclearization (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/30/how-the-miserable-death-of-moammar-gadhafi-factors-into-kim-jong-uns-nuclear-ambitions.html).
Libya voluntarily gave up its nuclear ambitions in 2003 in order to get out from under economic sanctions. The country's dictator Moammar Gadhafi was eventually overthrown in a Western-supported coup and killed in 2011.





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[shakey1]

North Korea isn't going to give up their nukes anyways.

I tend to agree with you on this one Zip.

[milgram]

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/05/north-korea-may-cancel-summit-over-boltons-absurd-demands.html

North Korea May Cancel Summit Over Bolton's 'Absurd' Demands


Trump thought he had already won. Finally North Korea is setting him straight. It will not give up its weapons under thread only to get smashed like other countries which made such mistakes:


Vice Foreign Minister Kim Kye-gwan made clear that the communist regime is not interested in any nuclear talks in which it is coerced into giving up its nuclear arsenal, according to Pyongyang's state news agency KCNA.
...
Kim expressed displeasure with the U.S. bringing up previous denuclearization methods, including the one used for Libya.

The full statement singled out the 'repugnant' John Bolton:


High-ranking officials of the White House and the Department of State including Bolton, White House national security adviser, are letting loose the assertions of so-called Libya mode of nuclear abandonment, "complete, verifiable and irreversible denuclearization", "total decommissioning of nuclear weapons, missiles, biochemical weapons". etc, while talking about formula of "abandoning nuclear weapons first, compensating afterwards".

This is not an expression of intention to address the issue through dialogue.
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It is absolutely absurd to dare compare the DPRK, a nuclear weapon state, to Libya which had been at the initial stage of nuclear development.

We shed light on the quality of Bolton already in the past, and we do not hide our feeling of repugnance towards him.

If the Trump administration fails to recall the lessons learned from the past when the DPRK-U.S. talks had to undergo twists and setbacks owing to the likes of Bolton and turns its ear to the advice of quasi-"patriots" who insist on Libya mode and the like, prospects of upcoming DPRK-U.S. summit and overall DPRK-U.S. relations will be crystal clear.

We have already stated our intention for denuclearization of the Korean peninsula and made clear on several occasions that precondition for denuclearization is to put an end to anti-DPRK hostile policy and nuclear threats and blackmail of the United States.

Trump's Noble peace prize is drifting away ...

If Trump really wants the June 12 meeting with Kim Jong-un in Singapore and an agreement he will have to stop Bolton from making overarching demands. Secretary of State Pompeo will have to issue some conciliatory statements. The Pentagon, which dislikes peace talks that may diminish its position in South Korea, will have to end its provocative "strategic" maneuvers.

[Raginfridus]

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/05/north-korea-may-cancel-summit-over-boltons-absurd-demands.html

North Korea May Cancel Summit Over Bolton's 'Absurd' Demands

High-ranking officials of the White House and the Department of State including Bolton, White House national security adviser, are letting loose the assertions of so-called Libya mode of nuclear abandonment, "complete, verifiable and irreversible denuclearization", "total decommissioning of nuclear weapons, missiles, biochemical weapons". etc, while talking about formula of "abandoning nuclear weapons first, compensating afterwards".
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BU9kNcQCQAAehzN.jpg

Because as others have already posted, that went well. Is Kim a stupidhead, or has he a plan?

[devil21]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BU9kNcQCQAAehzN.jpg

Because as others have already posted, that went well. Is Kim a stupidhead, or has he a plan?

Or is it just kabuki theater for the masses?

[Raginfridus]

That too.

[pao]

North Korea isn't going to give up their nukes anyways.

...because the US will not remove it's threatening US military presence in South Korea.

[timosman]

...because the US will not remove it's threatening US military presence in South Korea.

We can be next door to China, why would we give it up? China is also pulling strings in NK. We probably will be looking into a package deal involving NK, China and US.

[brushfire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZVQn1VKGUs

[pao]

We can be next door to China, why would we give it up? China is also pulling strings in NK. We probably will be looking into a package deal involving NK, China and US.

Japan should be plenty close for perceived China threats if such a relocation would ease NK fears and allow for a nuke free Korea. I think Bolton spilled the beans and unfortunately was declaring their true intentions.

[Zippyjuan]

...because the US will not remove it's threatening US military presence in South Korea.

Nukes are their only source of any respect (or fear). It is their only source of power (military/ political). It is the only reason the US is even considering talking with them. No way they give that up. Even if the US did offer to leave South Korea (also not likely to happen).

[timosman]

Nukes are their only source of any respect (or fear). It is their only source of power (military/ political). It is the only reason the US is even considering talking with them. No way they give that up. Even if the US did offer to leave South Korea (also not likely to happen).

China doesn't play any role in this? :cool:

[pao]

China doesn't play any role in this? :cool:

No doubt... I'm sure NK would be more willing to part with their nukes if they were assured defense from US threats by either China and/or Russia.

[enhanced_deficit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZVQn1VKGUs

LOL
Wondering who is the Tester (Master negotiator) in this scenario amd who is the Testee.

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44142046


How rival agendas threaten Trump's summit with Kim


North Korea is making its demands clear. This has very little to do with military drills and more to do with the Sunday talk shows in the US during which John Bolton, President Donald Trump's national security adviser, and Mike Pompeo, the secretary of state, outlined what might be on offer if Kim Jong-un gave up his nuclear weapons.

The North Koreans have been watching and they do not like what they have heard.

The whole reason the state has spent years building up a nuclear arsenal, at such a great cost, is for survival.

So to compare denuclearisation in North Korea with Libya - as John Bolton did on Sunday - is not going to offer much comfort. The regime collapsed and its leader did not survive.

The root of the problem is one of language and interpretation.

Rival agendas
For months, the world has heard that North Korea is willing to denuclearise and many analysts in Korea raised their eyebrows.

They warned that there was a gap between what the US and North Korea would mean by that.

America wants North Korea to give up its weapons over a set period of time and only then will it be given economic rewards.

They also want the process to be quick, perhaps over a couple of years.

North Korea's definition of denuclearisation is very different. It has always talked in terms of the entire peninsula.

That means the US has to act too - perhaps cutting the number of troops based in South Korea or also getting rid of the nuclear umbrella it uses to protect the region. If the state is going to give up its weapons it will also want security guarantees.

Go Myong-Hyun from the Asan Institute thinks Donald Trump has "finally met his match" when it comes to geopolitical negotiations.

"The US appears to have been coming up with additional and more stringent demands that North Korea didn't like. What they're saying is if you keep giving demands that we don't like, we are willing to walk way."

There are, however, signs some sort of a deal can still be done.

John Delury, professor of history at Yonsei University, is optimistic. He described this as a "hiccup" but believes the situation could be diffused with the right message.



North Korea is obviously aware how much President Trump wants this summit, as Go Myong-Hyun points out.

"He's been spending a couple of weeks taking credit for the positive outcome. North Korea has realised President Trump's political capital is invested in this. Another way of putting it is he is trapped in this process. If President Trump doesn't stop making demands and not offering anything in return then he's going to lose his summit."


North Korea wants the world to know that it is coming to the negotiating table from a position of strength. It may also feel that it is making all the concessions.

It has suspended all missile tests and released the three US detainees. Kim Jong-un met President Moon and the pair signed a declaration, and they are about to dismantle a nuclear test site in front of international media.

So to hear the Trump administration claiming credit for a deal it does not like has been a step too far.

Many will say this move is straight out the Pyongyang playbook. That North Korea has a history of walking away from talks and deals. It does. It also has a lot more experience at this kind of diplomacy than the current US administration.

More at link

[Swordsmyth]

Update II: North Korea's decision to suspend talks with the South after abruptly cancelling an inter-Korean summit set for Wednesday has apparently rattled the US.
In what appears to be a concession to North Korea - or at least, a hypothetical one - Yonhap reported Tuesday night that the US is considering withholding its B-52 bombers from joint exercises with South Korea taking place this week.
In a return to its pre-detente rhetoric, North Korea said Tuesday that it felt threatened by the exercises, and threatened to retaliate.
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More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-15/north-korea-cancels-meeting-south-over-military-drills

The Pentagon has denied reports that it had considered pulling B-52 bombers from military drills between the US and South Korea. According to the Pentagon, the bombers were never supposed to take part in the drills, the Washington Examiner (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/pentagon-denies-report-that-b-52s-were-pulled-from-us-south-korea-military-drills) reported.

The US and South Korea recently started their springtime "Max Thunder" drills which are meant to "enhance interoperability and readiness."
"The scope of Max Thunder has not changed," Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Chris Logan said Wednesday.
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More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-16/north-korea-threatens-abandon-peace-summit-over-denuclearization-demands

[TheTexan]

North Korea will not cancel the summit with Trump.

Noone cancels on Trump.

If anything, Trump will cancel on them.

[Swordsmyth]

Senator Rand Paul explained Tuesday that reports of North Korea threatening to cancel the imminent peace summit talks with President Trump are being ‘over-read’, and that the negotiations should go ahead unhindered.

“This is consistent with the historic position [on the exercises] and that is why I wouldn’t over-read what is going on here,” said Senator Paul, who sits on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
“I’m hopeful the talks will still occur and the talks we’re talking about having in Singapore. I think those will still occur.” Paul told Wolf Blitzer on CNN.


“From their perspective, they also feel they gave up the three prisoners and said they are ending military-weapons testing,” Paul continued, adding “They are giving and haven’t seen a little bit on the other side from us.”
“This is just their way of responding and pushing back,” Paul said. “But I don’t think it endangers the upcoming talks.”
The Senator also commented on the Iran nuclear deal, noting that he supports talks between Iran and President Trump, saying “I think that we need more discussion at a higher level with Iran.”

More at: https://www.infowars.com/rand-paul-north-korea-summit-is-still-on/

[enhanced_deficit]

They threatened to cancel a day after Israeli snipers killed 60+ and wounded thousands of unarmed Palestinians, coincidence or that played a role too?


North Korea Says US Must Stop Defending Israel, Which is 'Destroying' Middle East

North Korea has condemned the U.S. and its alliance with Israel, which continued to experience deadly clashes between security forces and Palestinian protestors.On Friday, the official Korean Central News Agency called the U.S. out for repeatedly defending Israel from criticism at the United Nations Human Rights Council, which U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley once called "a haven for dictators (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-un-human-rights-council-whitewashes-brutality/2017/06/02/c3757c2a-46e6-11e7-a196-a1bb629f64cb_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3ec3292b86d4)" and has threatened to pull the U.S. out of. Palestinians have threatened to lodge a complaint with the international body over rising casualties as Israeli forces reportedly opened fire on Palestinian demonstrators near the Gaza border, where dozens have been killed and thousands injured (http://www.newsweek.com/gaza-border-clashes-more-protesters-reported-dead-palestinians-and-israeli-895752) since violent protests erupted over Israel's historic and ongoing seizure of land.
"Israel's wild act of destroying Mid-east peace and mercilessly killing Palestinians is a hideous crime that deserves denunciations thousands of times," the state-run agency said of a commentary by North Korean Cabinet paper Minju Joson.
"If the U.S. is interested in protecting human rights, it should keep pace with the efforts of the international community to denounce and check Israel's human rights abuses," Minju Joson wrote. "But, the U.S. chimed in with Israel in the eyes of the international community, fully disclosing that it is applying double-dealing standards in human rights and politicizing it."

http://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-says-us-must-stop-defending-israel-which-destroying-middle-east-895968

[Swordsmyth]

The White House on Wednesday downplayed comments by national security adviser John Bolton, who recently invoked Libya's decision to denuclearize during the Bush administration as a model for US policy on North Korea, potentially placing a planned US-North Korea summit in jeopardy.Hours earlier (https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/15/asia/north-korea-trump-talks-intl/index.html), a North Korean official said Bolton's remarks were indicative of an "awfully sinister move" to imperil the Kim regime. North Korea stunned Washington on Tuesday by threatening to abandon talks between President Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un if Washington insists on pushing it "into a corner" on nuclear disarmament.
Referring to the Libya comparison, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said Wednesday that she hadn't "seen that as part of any discussions so I'm not aware that that's a model that we're using.
"I haven't seen that that's a specific thing. I know that that comment was made. There's not a cookie cutter model on how this would work."

She continued, "This is the President Trump model. He's going to run this the way he sees fit. We're 100% confident, as we've said many times before, as I'm sure you're all aware, he's the best negotiator and we're very confident on that front."

More at: https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/politics/north-korea-john-bolton-libya-comments/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_topstories+%28RSS%3 A+CNN+-+Top+Stories%29

[shakey1]

The White House on Wednesday downplayed comments by national security adviser John Bolton, who recently invoked Libya's decision to denuclearize during the Bush administration as a model for US policy on North Korea, potentially placing a planned US-North Korea summit in jeopardy.Hours earlier (https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/15/asia/north-korea-trump-talks-intl/index.html), a North Korean official said Bolton's remarks were indicative of an "awfully sinister move" to imperil the Kim regime. North Korea stunned Washington on Tuesday by threatening to abandon talks between President Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un if Washington insists on pushing it "into a corner" on nuclear disarmament.
Referring to the Libya comparison, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said Wednesday that she hadn't "seen that as part of any discussions so I'm not aware that that's a model that we're using.
"I haven't seen that that's a specific thing. I know that that comment was made. There's not a cookie cutter model on how this would work."

She continued, "This is the President Trump model. He's going to run this the way he sees fit. We're 100% confident, as we've said many times before, as I'm sure you're all aware, he's the best negotiator and we're very confident on that front."

More at: https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/politics/north-korea-john-bolton-libya-comments/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_topstories+%28RSS%3 A+CNN+-+Top+Stories%29

A legitimate concern for NK... we know how that worked out for Libya.

https://newmatilda.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Muammar-Gaddafi-death.jpg

[Jamesiv1]

North Korea will not cancel the summit with Trump.

Noone cancels on Trump.

If anything, Trump will cancel on them.
Hell to the yeah on this ^^

MSGA
Make Summits Great Again

[Swordsmyth]

President Donald Trump rebutted his national security adviser, telling reporters that he didn't consider the nuclear disarmament of Libya a model for negotiations with North Korea over its atomic weapons program.

"The Libya model isn't a model we have at all" for North Korea, Trump said Thursday during a meeting at the White House with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

More at: https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Trump-rebuts-Bolton-says-Libya-isn-t-a-model-for-12923064.php

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How much weight is in his words/rebuttal for domestic/foreign audiences?

Last credibility poll's results were quite shocking.

[TheCount]

How much weight is in his words/rebuttal for domestic/foreign audiences?

None.

We're gonna sanction everyone... wait, no sanctions for some people, okay delay the sanctions.

We're going to sanction ZTE... no, gotta save Chinese jobs, never mind.

We're going to pull out of Syria right away... okay, soon as we can... okay, never mind.

We're pulling out of NATO, it's obsolete. No, we're staying.

China is a currency manipulator. No, wait, no it's not.

We need a speedy withdrawal from Afghanistan. No, wait, let's send an extra 4,000 soldiers.

[timosman]

None.

We're gonna sanction everyone... wait, no sanctions for some people, okay delay the sanctions.

We're going to sanction ZTE... no, gotta save Chinese jobs, never mind.

We're going to pull out of Syria right away... okay, soon as we can... okay, never mind.

We're pulling out of NATO, it's obsolete. No, we're staying.

China is a currency manipulator. No, wait, no it's not.

We need a speedy withdrawal from Afghanistan. No, wait, let's send an extra 4,000 soldiers.

Ramblings of a mad man.:cool:

[enhanced_deficit]

None.

We're gonna sanction everyone... wait, no sanctions for some people, okay delay the sanctions.

We're going to sanction ZTE... no, gotta save Chinese jobs, never mind.

We're going to pull out of Syria right away... okay, soon as we can... okay, never mind.

We're pulling out of NATO, it's obsolete. No, we're staying.

China is a currency manipulator. No, wait, no it's not.

We need a speedy withdrawal from Afghanistan. No, wait, let's send an extra 4,000 soldiers.

After watching The Office 'Negotiations' episode, it becomes evident that various crazy tactics can be used for more winning.

[enhanced_deficit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZVQn1VKGUs

Even if they are thinking that they've trapped our national leaders, negotiation tricks NK is playing now with frivolous damenda are gettng bit out of hand:


http://images.china.cn/attachement/png/site1007/20130325/001372acd0b512ba4ef301.png


North Korea demands Seoul return waitress 'defectors'

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAE AAAICTAEAOw== Pyongyang claims the women were kidnapped from a North Korean restaurant in China, while Seoul insists they defected of their own free will AFP/GIUSEPPE CACACE
20 May 2018

SEOUL: North Korea has demanded Seoul repatriate a dozen waitresses who fled to the South two years ago, just days after abruptly calling off a planned inter-Korean meeting following weeks of tentative rapprochement.
The issue has long been controversial, with Pyongyang claiming the women were kidnapped from a North Korean state-run restaurant in China while Seoul insists they defected of their own free will.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/north-korea-demands-seoul-return-waitress-defectors-10251532

[enhanced_deficit]

It seems like SK's leftist leader may have hyped things also by floating Nobel Peace Prize idea for current tax payers funded leader exploiting his hunger for validation and approval:


https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01782/2009-obama_1782164i.jpg




Why Trump’s North Korea summit is going off the rails, explained by an expert

“Trump is loathed here.”

By Zack Beauchamp
May 21, 2018, 11:40am EDT

The much-anticipated summit between President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, scheduled for June 12, is in trouble.

After National Security Adviser John Bolton said last week that the US would seek complete and total North Korean nuclear disarmament (https://www.vox.com/world/2018/5/17/17360822/north-korea-trump-kim-summit-bolton-cancel), North Korea said publicly that it would never accept such an outcome — and threatened to pull out of the meeting (https://www.vox.com/world/2018/5/17/17360822/north-korea-trump-kim-summit-bolton-cancel) if Washington didn’t adjust its expectations.
North Korea experts see this as a long-overdue reckoning. The truth is that the United States and North Korea have long expected diametrically opposed outcomes from the talks — with the US wanting North Korea to give up its nukes and North Korea demanding recognition as a legitimate nuclear power. But neither side was willing to confront the reality of the situation. We’ve just been stumbling toward negotiations with no clear sense of how this yawning gulf could be resolved.
How did we get here? Robert E. Kelly, a professor at South Korea’s Pusan National University, gave a really clear explanation in a series of Monday morning tweets: It’s all because of South Korean President Moon Jae-in.

Moon is a leftist who took office in May of last year, back when Trump was threatening war (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/27/world/asia/trump-north-korea-kim-jong-un.html) with North Korea. He made a deep and concerted effort to try to broker negotiations between Trump and Kim to defuse the tension, and part of his strategy was making grandiose promises about what talks could accomplish — even floating the possibility that Trump could win a Nobel Prize to entice him to the table.

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/5/21/17376130/north-korea-trump-kim-jong-un-summit-bbc-dad




The dream of Nobel Peace prize seems even more far fetched now that war crimes investigation (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?522427-Gaza-UN-to-launch-war-crimes-investigation-into-Israeli-forces%92-shooting-of-protesters&p=6631587&viewfull=1#post6631587) has been launched after recent massacre of civilians of semitic races in which current ledaer's puppet masters could be implicated.
Just because they made a mistake before doees not mean that Nobel prizer team would repeat it.

[Jan2017]

A legitimate concern for NK... we know how that worked out for Libya.



Update: The State Department says it had not received any information from North Korea concerning a threat to cancel the historic US-North Korea summit set for June 12. The State Department said it's still operating under the assumption that the Singapore summit is still happening.
* * *

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-15/north-korea-cancels-meeting-south-over-military-drills

Diplomatic/war positioning after absurd continuation of American rhetoric by - this time - it's meet, John Bolton.

Yeah, sure Bolton . . . the USA seeks a Libyan model for North Korea . . . wtf?
Is the Secretary of State Hillary running arms through the de facto capital Benghazi with the de jure capital Tripoli
all through the private SECRET Denver-based server, again ?

What woods has this arsehole John Bolton jus' walked outta ?

North Korea . . . with 28,000 USA troops on the pennisula still . . . is seeking an end to the half-century old Korean War. Get a clue, Bolton.

Clapper had the same problems in the 2014 negotiations with North Korea . . . same chit from the same mold I guess.

[timosman]

997932976561381377

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Diplomatic/war positioning after absurd continuation of American rhetoric by - this time - it's meet, John Bolton.

Yeah, sure Bolton . . . the USA seeks a Libyan model for North Korea . . . wtf?
...

Using these kinda terms about a key cabinet member could put big question mark about judgment of POTUS, is that what we really want ahead of midterms?
That was one of the reasons GOP voters base was not thrilled with last SoS Tillerson and his allegedd M-word comments provided unnecessary ammo to liberal media.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/07/cartoons-rex-tillerson-and-the-moron/

POTUS is known to surround himself with the best people.



997932976561381377

For some reason it showed as blank but tweet tag shows when quote the post.

[TheCount]

For some reason it showed as blank but tweet tag shows when quote the post.
Tweets sometimes don't load right, especially if you have any kind of ad or tracking blocker running.

[enhanced_deficit]

Ok thanks, could be some browser settings then, will test it.



In other news, we are in the era of name calling still, this time foreign leaders attackng one of the best people POTUS has surrounded himself with:



Trump’s North Korea Nobel buzz could die with John Bolton

Is Trump’s biggest obstacle to a deal with North Korea his own national security adviser?

05/16/2018

https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/99ed91d/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F8b%2F3d%2 F68ff2c1947ec856ceda9a4994096%2F180516-trump-bolton-ap-1160.jpg


Donald Trump wants a deal with North Korea. His national security adviser thinks the North Koreans can’t be dealt with. And North Korea thinks he’s “human scum.”
North Korea’s latest diatribe against the United States — and specifically a “repugnant” national security adviser, John Bolton — spotlights a core tension within the Trump administration as the president seeks a nuclear deal with North Korea that he hopes might earn him a Nobel Peace Prize.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-bolton-595064 (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/16/trump-north-korea-bolton-595064)



Related

Tillerson called Trump a ‘moron’ and nearly resigned (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?515556-Tillerson-called-Trump-a-%E2%80%98moron%E2%80%99-and-nearly-resigned&)

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Instead of supporting the POTUS, some in media have already started to mock POTUS even before the start of historic Peace summit.
Not too surprising considering how parts of media had mocked recent Peace Process ceremony in Jerusalem using very controversial depictions (http://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/G5Z0ybb34n9C8kxtKaK82V0pHd8=/1400x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/7Y3DH4IUH3TXMR2P5OQJKPTFHQ.jpg).


https://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/upi/5921526932661/2018/1/da8557996c9c6d6008e1ba89242c20bb/Trump-administration-releases-North-Korea-summit-coin.jpg

'Weird, odd, a dumpster fire': Trump's North Korea summit coin ridiculed (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/22/donald-trump-north-korea-coin-kim-jong-un-nuclear-talks)

Coin marking nuclear talks that might not happen yet criticised as premature and giving Kim Jong-un unwarranted status

Benjamin Haas in Seoul
Tue 22 May 2018

A North Korea peace talks coin featuring Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un has been struck by the White House before their summit meeting. Photograph: STR/AFP/Getty Images Stony faced, Donald Trump (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/donaldtrump) stares down a smiling Kim Jong-un in a high-stakes scene, unfolding entirely on the surface of a coin.

The commemorative piece was minted by the White House Military Office, which typically designs coins for Trump’s trips abroad, before an expected summit between the two leaders (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/21/trump-south-korean-president-moon-jae-in-nuclear-summit) in Singapore on 12 June. The coin describes the meeting as “peace talks”, in English and Korean.
It is only a small element of America’s recent rapprochement with North Korea (https://www.theguardian.com/world/north-korea) but it appeared to gain a currency all its own on social media.
Olivier Knox (@OKnox) That Trump/Kim « coin » reminds me of my best souvenir ever, this heart-shaped lighter with GWB and Saddam (the fighter clicks up to reveal the flame). pic.twitter.com/WlhHmvszft (https://t.co/WlhHmvszft)
May 21, 2018 (https://twitter.com/OKnox/status/998632748767174656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




U.S. accused of blinking on China trade standoff as N. Korea meeting looms
by Martha C. White / May.21.2018
On Sunday, the Trump administration surprised the business world by announcing it would pull back on its plan to impose tariffs on Chinese goods. After many months of threats and tweets about China's unfair trading practices, suddenly the U.S. was "putting the trade war on hold," in the words of Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, and it was not clear what, if anything, China had to give up in return.
That led to charges that China had outmaneuvered President Donald Trump.
"I think this president has shown in a number of different issues that he wants a headline more than he actually wants to solve a problem," said Gabriel Horwitz, vice president for the economic program at Third Way.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bus...-looms-n876126 (https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/u-s-blinks-china-trade-standoff-north-korea-meeting-looms-n876126)

[enhanced_deficit]

They're counting on Trump being emotionally invested in the positive press that he's pre-received for a yet-to-be-accomplished deal. It's a good call to make on their part. He's like a customer at the car dealership who's already got the keys in his pocket.


That would go very much against Art of the Dealer.


Trump says North Korea meeting may be delayed, hints China is to blame

The president says Xi is a ‘world-class poker player’ and suggests Kim changed his tone after meeting with the Chinese leader.

By CRISTIANO LIMA
05/22/2018 12:28 PM EDT

President Donald Trump on Tuesday suggested that his historic meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un may be delayed and that Chinese President Xi Jinping may be responsible for a breakdown in the pre-summit talks.
Meeting with South Korean President Moon Jae-in at the White House, Trump said there was a "very substantial chance" the talks could be postponed from the scheduled date of June 12 if the countries fail to come to terms on various issues. He also hinted that the Chinese leader may be behind North Korea's return to more aggressive rhetoric against the U.S.

Questions have grown over whether the highly anticipated diplomatic talks will go on as planned next month in Singapore due to recent criticism from Pyongyang of joint military exercises between the U.S. and South Korea. North Korea has also said it has no interest in a summit if the U.S. demands "unilateral nuclear abandonment."
Trump on Tuesday floated that Kim's meeting with Xi earlier this month may be linked to his country's sudden hesitation to engage with the U.S. diplomatically.
"I think there was a little change in attitude from Kim Jong Un" after his second meeting with Xi in early May, Trump said. "So I don't like that."

Pressed on whether he believed Xi had discouraged Kim from meeting with U.S. leaders, Trump said "no" and that he wasn't "blaming anybody."
But he added: "President Xi is a world-class poker player and I'd probably maybe doing the same thing that he would do. But I will say this, there was a somewhat different attitude after that meeting and I'm a little surprised."

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/22/trump-kim-jong-un-summit-602669





Related

GOP Senator: China is winning (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?522484-GOP-Senator-China-is-winning&)

Marco Rubio‏ Verified account @marcorubio

#China is winning the negotiations. Their concessions are things they planned to do anyways. In exchange they get no tariffs, can keep stealing intellectual property & can keep blocking our companies while they invest in the U.S. without limits. #Losing
3:28 AM - 21 May 2018

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Supreme Leader of NK turning on Pence next? Pence usually keeps low profile and hasn't many major headlines every since Access Hollywood tape scandal aftermath.


North Korea warns of nuclear showdown, calls Pence 'political dummy'

By Joshua Berlinger, CNN
Updated 4:35 AM ET, Thu May 24, 2018

(CNN)A North Korean official has lashed out at US Vice President Mike Pence and said Pyongyang is ready for a nuclear showdown if dialogue with the United States fails.

Choe Son Hui, a vice-minister in the North Korean Foreign Ministry, said if the US continued on its current path, she would suggest to North Korea's leadership that they reconsider the planned summit between President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

"Whether the US will meet us at a meeting room or encounter us at nuclear-to-nuclear showdown is entirely dependent upon the decision and behavior of the United States," Choe said in comments carried by North Korea's state-run KCNA news agency Thursday.
Choe was responding to comments by Pence made Monday during a Fox News interview that she deemed "unbridled and impudent."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/23/politics/mike-pence-north-korea-intl/index.html

[enhanced_deficit]

'Art of the Deal' seems to have stopped trending on Amazon.

[Swordsmyth]

...


It appears that Trump "jilted North Korean lover" approach may have been just what the doctor ordered.

Literally minutes after we said (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-24/trump-warns-us-military-ready-if-north-korea-takes-foolish-action)that most experts expected a violent, angry outburst from North Korea's president in response to Trump's unexpected cancellation of the Singapore June 12 summit, such as this comment from Senator Jack Reed...
Spoke w/ @BloombergTV (https://twitter.com/BloombergTV?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)’s @kevcirilli (https://twitter.com/kevcirilli?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) about Pres Trump pulling out of planned nuclear summit w/ North Korea & how if Pres Trump had taken a more considered approach to Mr. Kim’s initial offer for a summit, we wouldn’t be in this position.https://t.co/vY7HOiFYXf
— Senator Jack Reed (@SenJackReed) May 24, 2018 (https://twitter.com/SenJackReed/status/999775914484477953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
... North Korea has come crawling back, virtually begging for a meeting.
In a statement issued by state-run Korean Central News Agency, citing Vice Foreign Minister Kim Kye Gwan, North Korea announced it was willing to sit with the U.S. "whenever, however" through any method to try to resolve the outstanding issues.
Gwan said that whereas President Trump’s announcement to one-sidedly cancel the planned summit is unexpected and very regrettable, North Korea remains unchanged in its aim to do everything possible for the peace and stability of Korean peninsula and humanity, and noted that President Trump's decision to cancel the summit is "not what the world wants" and the summit is necessary to resolve the current hostile bilatereal relationship.
Furthermore, North Korea appears to be backtracking on the recent diplomatic escalation and has effectively apologized, stating that "its previous remarks regarding the U.S.-North Korea summit had been in protest against strong US remarks towards North."
While we await the full KCNA statement, here are the key bullet points courtesy of Reuters and Bloomberg:


NORTH KOREA SAYS TRUMP'S SUMMIT CANCELLATION IS UNEXPECTED
NORTH KOREA SAYS IT'S WILLING TO MEET WITH U.S. AT ANY TIME
NORTH KOREA SAYS IT IS STILL WILLING TO RESOLVE ISSUES WITH UNITED STATES WHENEVER, HOWEVER
NORTH KOREA SAYS U.S.-N.KOREA SUMMIT IS NECESSARY TO RESOLVE CURRENT HOSTILE BILATERAL RELATIONSHIP
NORTH KOREA SAYS IT HAD WISHED `TRUMP MODEL' COULD RESOLVE ISSUES
NORTH KOREA SAYS IT HAD HOPED FOR ISSUES REGARDING N.KOREA TO BE RESOLVED "TRUMP-STYLE"
NORTH KOREA SAYS NO CHANGE IN N. KOREA'S WILL TO DO BEST FOR PEACE
NORTH KOREA SAYS ITS PREVIOUS REMARKS REGARDING U.S.-N.KOREA SUMMIT HAD BEEN IN PROTEST AGAINST STRONG U.S. REMARKS TOWARDS NORTH
N.KOREA HAS WILLINGNESS TO GIVE CHANCE, TIME TO U.S.
NORTH KOREA HAS WILLINGNESS TO GIVE CHANCE, TIME TO U.S.

And the punchline:


NORTH KOREA SAYS CURRENT SITUATION REFLECTS DESPARATE NEED FOR SUMMIT

Or, to summarize North Korea's response to Trump's "dear John" letter:
North Korea right now pic.twitter.com/viFR0KHZa4 (https://t.co/viFR0KHZa4)
— Quoth the Raven (@QTRResearch) May 24, 2018 (https://twitter.com/QTRResearch/status/999782045936242688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
And now the ball is in Trump's court.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-24/north-korea-comes-crawling-back-stresses-desperate-need-summit-whenever-however


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[dannno]

'Art of the Deal' seems to have stopped trending on Amazon.

...and it's back

[enhanced_deficit]

...and it's back
Ok cool, so still winning then.

[dannno]

Ok cool, so still winning then.

Winning Bigly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXNpC41vPA

[nikcers]

Was Trump ever not a fan of the Libya model?

[TheCount]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXNpC41vPA
Oh thank goodness, the stress of not being told what to think was starting to get to me.

[timosman]

Oh thank goodness, the stress of not being told what to think was starting to get to me.

So nice to hear.

[kahless]

Winning Bigly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXNpC41vPA

Spot on. It is obvious, yet the media continues to make fools of themselves further diminishing what little credibility they once had.

[enhanced_deficit]

Winning Bigly.
...

This looks like a drama, so far other than a Coin have not been any real sign of NK giving up Nukes.

Not sure about the first part of that slogan but something Bigly is going on looking at the bigger picture.


National debt hits $21 trillion (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?520482-National-debt-hits-21-trillion/page3&)




TRUMP SIGNS MONSTER SPENDING BILL... (https://apnews.com/0b31d47019564c738f440a6e307729aa/Trump-signs-$1.3-trillion-budget-after-threatening-veto)
BUDGET BLOWS INTO OBLIVION... (https://apnews.com/0b31d47019564c738f440a6e307729aa/Congress-OKs-$1.3-trillion-budget,-averting-another-shutdown)
VOWS 'NEVER AGAIN'... (https://nypost.com/2018/03/23/trump-signs-1-3-trillion-spending-bill-after-veto-threat/)
Congress Gives Self Bonus! (http://freebeacon.com/politics/congress-gives-bonus-omnibus/)
Pelosi, Schumer declare victory... (http://www.theamericanmirror.com/pelosi-praises-one-yard-high-gop-spending-bill-says-one-quarter-is-earmarks/)


http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Donald+Trump+Trump+First+Lady+Host+Greek+Independe nce+10jhLiIIFZFl.jpg
FAKE VETO (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/23/trump-threatens-to-veto-omnibus-spending-bill-over-daca-and-the-border-wall.html)


http://www.drudgereport.com/i/logo9.gif






FEDERAL DEBT PRIMED TO EXPLODE... (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/09/the-gop-tax-plan-means-short-term-gains-for-the-economy-but-federal-debt-is-primed-to-explode-cbo-analysis-says.html)

Trillion-dollar deficits come roaring back... (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/9/trillion-dollar-deficits-return-under-trump/)

The GOP tax plan means short-term gains for the economy, but federal debt is primed to explode, CBO analysis says

[TheCount]

It's the greatest debt. You're going to love it.

[Swordsmyth]

A day after President Trump declared that the historic summit planned between the US and North Korea had been cancelled, Trump appeared to pull off another pivot on Friday when he kept hopes of a meeting alive, saying that the Singapore meeting may still happen as scheduled on June 12, just hours after North Korea said they are very eager to get back to the negotiating table, and that the only reason for Pyongyang's harsh language was because it was responding to similar language by the US.

"We'll see what happens," Trump told reporters at the White House on his way to Annapolis adding that "it could even be the 12th. We're talking to them now. They very much want to do it. We'd like to do it. We'll see what happens" and then explained his negotiating strategy: "everybody plays games."

"We're going to see what happens, we're talking to them now."

President Trump says North Korea summit with Kim Jong-un could still be possible on 12 June https://t.co/eMeK1Oyldi pic.twitter.com/BRjgtAnmeT (https://t.co/BRjgtAnmeT)
— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) May 25, 2018 (https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1000014330610442240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Trump credited the North's "very nice statement" for prompting the US to reconsider its cancellation.
Shortly after, Reuters reported that Mattis echoed Trump's optimismsaying that he had received "possibly good news" on the June 12 summit which "may be on if diplomats can pull it off."



MATTIS SAYS RECEIVED POSSIBLY GOOD NEWS ON N.KOREA SUMMIT: RTRS
MATTIS SAYS SUMMIT MAY BE ON IF DIPLOMATS CAN PULL IT OFF: RTRS


Earlier in the day, Trump welcomed the conciliatory statement from North Korea saying it remained open to talks. Trump tweeted (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/999986971660423170)"Very good news to receive the warm and productive statement from North Korea. We will soon see where it will lead, hopefully to long and enduring prosperity and peace. Only time (and talent) will tell!"

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-25/north-korea

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https://media.8ch.net/file_store/0512b30ace9af4ea2599ff64ab31fce443e34032509da3c6eb e14abf38764ce3.jpg

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It's the greatest debt. You're going to love it.

National debt jumped by only $1T in last few months.
But you can't put a price tag on vital operations like DTS and America First.






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MAGA NK policy be taking names again (with or w/o bump stocks)?

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Satellite images reveal activity at NK rocket facility; Nuke missile fears as tremors detected (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?532290-Satellite-images-reveal-activity-at-NK-rocket-facility-Nuke-missile-fears-as-tremors-detected&)

CNN
Sat March 9, 2019

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...and it's back

The secret 3D Chess tricks in the Art of the Deal unfortunately are being used by everyone including foreign dictators, Dems, Wall opponenets, Mx etc.




Smiling Kim arrives by train in Russia for his Putin summit



2 hours ago

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In this image from video released by Primorsky Regional Administration Press Service, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un waves from his train as he leaves Khasan train station in Primorye region, Russia, Wednesday, April 24, 2019. Kim arrived in Russia by train on Wednesday, a day before his much-anticipated summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin that comes amid deadlocked diplomacy on his nuclear program. (Primorsky Regional Administration Press Service via AP)

VLADIVOSTOK, Russia (AP) — A smiling and upbeat Kim Jong Un arrived Wednesday in far-eastern Russia aboard an armored train for a much-anticipated summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin that comes amid deadlocked global diplomacy over the North Korean leader’s nuclear program.
Both leaders have high hopes for their first one-on-one meeting: Kim for a win after his failed second summit with U.S. President Donald Trump and Putin for a chance to raise Moscow’s clout in the region and gain more leverage with Washington.

https://apnews.com/5fb86dab3ebd4bcb9f26318c88afc25c



North Korea 'executes four officials by firing squad' after failed summit with US


Kim Jong-un held the summit with Donald Trump in Vietnam but rumours spreading through North Korea suggest officials had leaked information before it took place

By Chris kitching



10:01, 24 APR 2019



North Korea executed four officials from its foreign ministry after Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump's latest summit failed, a new report has claimed.
The officials are said to have been killed by a firing squad in Pyongyang earlier this month after Kim and Trump's talks in Vietnam broke off without a deal.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/north-korea-executes-four-officials-14544273

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A day after President Trump declared that the historic summit planned between the US and North Korea had been cancelled, Trump appeared to pull off another pivot on Friday when he kept hopes of a meeting alive, saying that the Singapore meeting may still happen as scheduled on June 12, just hours after North Korea said they are very eager to get back to the negotiating table, and that the only reason for Pyongyang's harsh language was because it was responding to similar language by the US.

"We'll see what happens," Trump told reporters at the White House on his way to Annapolis adding that "it could even be the 12th. We're talking to them now. They very much want to do it. We'd like to do it. We'll see what happens" and then explained his negotiating strategy: "everybody plays games."
"We're going to see what happens, we're talking to them now."

President Trump says North Korea summit with Kim Jong-un could still be possible on 12 June https://t.co/eMeK1Oyldi pic.twitter.com/BRjgtAnmeT (https://t.co/BRjgtAnmeT)
— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) May 25, 2018 (https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1000014330610442240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Trump credited the North's "very nice statement" for prompting the US to reconsider its cancellation.
Shortly after, Reuters reported that Mattis echoed Trump's optimism saying that he had received "possibly good news" on the June 12 summit which "may be on if diplomats can pull it off."



MATTIS SAYS RECEIVED POSSIBLY GOOD NEWS ON N.KOREA SUMMIT: RTRS
MATTIS SAYS SUMMIT MAY BE ON IF DIPLOMATS CAN PULL IT OFF: RTRS


Earlier in the day, Trump welcomed the conciliatory statement from North Korea saying it remained open to talks. Trump tweeted (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/999986971660423170)"Very good news to receive the warm and productive statement from North Korea. We will soon see where it will lead, hopefully to long and enduring prosperity and peace. Only time (and talent) will tell!"



EM.

Early reporting is not always right, let's wait till all te facts come out.


North Korea has launched three unidentified projectiles, South Korea says

By Yoonjung Seo, CNN
7:59 PM ET, Sun March 8, 2020


Seoul, South Korea (CNN)North Korea fired three unidentified projectiles Monday, according to South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff.

"Our military detected 3 unidentified projectiles fired this morning from the Sondok area in Hamgyong Province, North Korea, toward northeast, toward the East Sea," the South Korea Defense Ministry said in a text to reporters.
"Currently, our military is monitoring related movement in case of additional launch and is maintaining preparedness."
The East Sea is also known as the Sea of Japan.
No other details were immediately available.
The launch comes after last week's firing of two unidentified short-range projectiles (http://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/asia/north-korea-projectiles-intl-hnk/index.html) from an area near the coastal city of Wonsan into waters between the Korean Peninsula and Japan.
Those projectiles were likely part of North Korea's military drills for its wintertime exercise, the Joint Chiefs of Staff said.
Last year, North Korea test-launched missiles 13 times amid stalled denuclearization talks with the United States.
In its New Year's Day message, Pyongyang warned it will show off a "new strategic weapon" in the near future.
Experts said the "strategic weapon" may mean an advanced type of its intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) or a submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM).

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/08/asia/north-korea-launch/index.html