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jmdrake
05-15-2018, 01:15 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/15/watch-trump-speaks-at-national-peace-officers-memorial-service.html

https://youtu.be/Clwv7l73to0?t=1h11m00s
"That is why, as I promised all along, that we are allowing local police to access the surplus military equipment they need, to protect our officers and law enforcement agents and save their lives and they are taking equipment at a record clip. Millions and millions of dollars of surplus equipment is going to our police departments. If we want to bring down violent crime then we must stand up for our police. We must stand up to confront and condemn dangerous anti police prejudice. Can you believe there is prejudice against our police? We aren't going to let bad things happen to our police."

Compare Trump's statements on violent crime and policing to the facts. Violent crime is at historic lows.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2017001/article/54842/c-g/c-g01-eng.gif

Police killings are at historic highs.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/vd-vcjwR_aF73rL9QQAZ-9ctbNddCLoJf6k6Qi5B-l8HpKUEHd6tFmt9CU7M707f0NHg6izrY-UqlGREZHsb2OsaU81HU6sR962mf5RNmdMMUCAfgWxt5E_8E0aV y0SMgw

The data is clear. Violent crime is dropping and has been for decades anyway so there is no need for police militarization to fight it. Also there is no justification for the high rate of police killings based on the steadily dropping violent crime rate.

Even conservatives like Mike Huckabee point to police militarization as a large part of the problem.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lz0XPYpqog


Rand Paul has spoken out against police militarization.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmsJdzbyMbw

Ron Paul has spoken out against police militarization as well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf_7skbDUww

Even Alex Jones once spoke out against police militarization.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJOIPuJ6K6I

I hold no hope for Alex doing the right thing this time though.

CCTelander
05-15-2018, 01:30 PM
"We must stand up to confront and condemn dangerous anti police prejudice."

"See something, say something."

Reported.

r3volution 3.0
05-15-2018, 01:42 PM
I feel safer already.

EBounding
05-15-2018, 02:27 PM
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jmdrake
05-15-2018, 02:35 PM
"We must stand up to confront and condemn dangerous anti police prejudice."

"See something, say something."

Reported.

Bump for dannno. Stand with Trump or stand with Ron and Rand. It's your choice.

dannno
05-15-2018, 03:08 PM
Bump for @dannno (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=10908). Stand with Trump or stand with Ron and Rand. It's your choice.

On this issue in particular, I stand with Ron and Rand.

But consider who ordered the Waco attacks.

CCTelander
05-15-2018, 03:08 PM
Bump for dannno. Stand with Trump or stand with Ron and Rand. It's your choice.


I'm guessing:

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Raginfridus
05-15-2018, 03:10 PM
But consider who ordered the Waco attacks.Justice Department?


996460197005717504

https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f4af.pngWhat about those whose lives were taken by dumbfuck bureaucrats? Do the murdered get a day?

dannno
05-15-2018, 03:11 PM
Justice Department?

Hillary.

Swordsmyth
05-15-2018, 03:12 PM
Justice Department?

What about those whose lives were taken by dumb$#@! bureaucrats? Do the murdered get a day?

The Klintons.

CCTelander
05-15-2018, 03:13 PM
Justice Department?


Hillary Clinton. It's another "but Hillary would have been worse" justification of Trump. I'm shocked.

Raginfridus
05-15-2018, 03:14 PM
Hillary.Hillary did not send the ATF in. Not that I'm aware.


Hillary Clinton. It's another "but Hillary would have been worse" Josh stifi ation of Trump. I'm shocked.
lol I haven't learned yet.

Lets just keep stacking the worst people ever on the Left, so the Right can justify whatever they want.

Ender
05-15-2018, 03:14 PM
Hillary.

So your justification for being able to support Ron in this is that Hillary would have been worse- amirite?

dannno
05-15-2018, 03:27 PM
So your justification for being able to support Ron in this is that Hillary would have been worse- amirite?

Do you agree with Rand Paul on 100% of the issues? Do you think he is a perfect liberty candidate? I think Ron is a little more pure from a liberty perspective myself, but no doubt Rand is very good.

If Rand ran against Donald Trump, would you vote for Rand? Why? Because Rand is better than Trump? But Rand is not perfect, so how do you rationalize voting for the lesser of two evils?

Oh, what a silly question.. Rand isn't evil.. he's not perfect, but he also isn't evil. Trump is far from perfect, but also not evil..

Bush and Gore and Kerry were evil. Obama and McCain were evil. Hillary is evil. Romney is evil.

Basically, all of the deep state actors are evil. Trump is not apart of the deep state.

Easy choice now isn't it? Or maybe now you're just confused. That is ok, I didn't vote for Trump either - life is complex - nobody said it would be a walk in the park.

enhanced_deficit
05-15-2018, 03:42 PM
Trump has always come across has a big fan of police state, Big Police and Big Military. Not sure where he stand s on Big Brother but probably a big fan there too.
Militarized Police State would be ultimate combo deal.

Anti Globalist
05-15-2018, 04:37 PM
Something tells me if Mike Huckabee became POTUS he would double down on the police militarization.

Raginfridus
05-15-2018, 04:57 PM
And if you didn't go to his mcdonalds church you'd get swated.

RonZeplin
05-15-2018, 05:01 PM
But consider who ordered the Waco attacks.

Either Janet Reno, or Ivanka & Chelsea. Take your best guess.

https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/7898b45/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fcb%2Ff8%2 Fee7641014a529e3a4c29e3a30879%2F160309-chelsea-clinton-ivanka-trump-gty-1160.jpg

https://video.newsserve.net/700/v/20170409/1704091538-Ivanka-May-Have-Convinced-Trump-To-Bomb-Syria.jpg

Ender
05-15-2018, 09:35 PM
Do you agree with Rand Paul on 100% of the issues? Do you think he is a perfect liberty candidate? I think Ron is a little more pure from a liberty perspective myself, but no doubt Rand is very good.

If Rand ran against Donald Trump, would you vote for Rand? Why? Because Rand is better than Trump? But Rand is not perfect, so how do you rationalize voting for the lesser of two evils?

Oh, what a silly question.. Rand isn't evil.. he's not perfect, but he also isn't evil. Trump is far from perfect, but also not evil..

Bush and Gore and Kerry were evil. Obama and McCain were evil. Hillary is evil. Romney is evil.

Basically, all of the deep state actors are evil. Trump is not apart of the deep state.

Easy choice now isn't it? Or maybe now you're just confused. That is ok, I didn't vote for Trump either - life is complex - nobody said it would be a walk in the park.

So which evil guy just broke the Iran deal?

Ah, yes, your hero, the asshole Trump.

Henry Rogue
05-28-2018, 07:18 PM
Something tells me if Mike Huckabee became POTUS he would double down on the police militarization.

From what i have observed over the years, Huckabee has been consistent. Shockingly enough, he doesn't appear to be a major copsucker.

enhanced_deficit
05-28-2018, 08:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkZkgR0cEa0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkZkgR0cEa0


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enhanced_deficit
05-30-2018, 10:52 AM
https://video.newsserve.net/700/v/20170409/1704091538-Ivanka-May-Have-Convinced-Trump-To-Bomb-Syria.jpg

Was this ever confirmed by any media investigation?

While in principle I'm opposed to sponsoring tax payers funded civil wars bloodbaths in other countries but midesat wars do increase profits for defense contractors/weapons makers that provide jobs in many states.

enhanced_deficit
01-07-2021, 12:02 PM
Generous amount of money soon will be allocated to boost capitol police, security forces and barricades. Not clear at this point if military gear coming home from Afghanistan, Iraq will be part of DC reinforcement initiatives being discussed in media.


Capitol secured after assault from Trump supporters
Updated on: January 7, 2021

Thousands of National Guard members head to the Capitol to tamp down pro-Trump insurrection




The National Guard was mobilized to the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday after pro-Trump rioters overran the building during the Electoral College vote count.
Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam and Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan also said their states would send their National Guards.
Trump supporters, who the president addressed earlier in the day, forced lawmakers to evacuate the Capitol and stop the formal count of the 2020 presidential Electoral College votes.




Virginia Gov. Northam is sending the National Guard, state troopers to D.C.

The National Guard and state forces responded at the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday after pro-Trump rioters overran the building during the Electoral College vote count.
The Washington D.C. National Guard force of about 1,100 was mobilized to help federal law enforcement tamp down the insurrection, according to chief Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman. The Department of Justice will lead the federal law enforcement response, Hoffman said.

Acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller said he coordinated with Vice President Mike Pence and congressional leaders to activate the National Guard and assist officers with taking back the Capitol. He did not mention any contact with President Donald Trump.

Trump had to be convinced to deploy the National Guard, a person familiar with the matter confirms to NBC News. Pence, who was moved to a secure location within the Capitol, was in contact with the Pentagon and “encouraged a much more rapid deployment,” the person added.

9:58 PM New York governor deploying members of New York National Guard to D.C.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo on Wednesday announced he is deploying 1,000 members of the New York National Guard to Washington, D.C., for up to two weeks "to aid and facilitate the peaceful transition of presidential power."


cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-us-capitol-secured-dc-protest/


https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox5dc.com/www.fox5dc.com/content/uploads/2021/01/932/524/5.jpg?ve=1&tl=1
WASHINGTON, DC - JANUARY 06: U.S. Capitol Police stand detain protesters outside of the House Chamber during a joint session of Congress on January 06, 2021 in Washington, DC. Congress held a joint session today to ratify President-elect Joe Biden's


Donald J. Trump
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I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!

Donald J. Trump
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Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!

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