Giuliani Just Exposed Trump

[PierzStyx]

In an interview with Sean Hannity, Giuliani admitted James Comey was fired over the Russia probe, and then followed that bombshell up by just casually revealing that Donald Trump reimbursed Michael Cohen for the Stormy Daniels hush money.

On Comey:


Rudy Giuliani on Wednesday night said President Donald Trump fired James Comey because the former FBI director wouldn’t offer public assurances that Trump wasn’t a target of an investigation.

“He fired Comey because Comey would not, among other things, say that he wasn’t a target of the investigation,” the former New York mayor, who recently joined Trump’s legal team, told Fox News’ Sean Hannity. “He’s entitled to that. Hillary Clinton got that and he couldn’t get that. So he fired him and he said, ‘I’m free of this guy.’”

Comey had previously said that he told Trump he wasn't the focus of an investigation but that the president pressed him to make a public statement. The former FBI director said he never made a public statement for several reasons, including the possibility that Trump’s actions would eventually come under review by the FBI.

The president has changed his reason for firing Comey since he dismissed the former FBI director in May 2017. The White House initially said Trump fired Comey at the recommendation of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who penned a memo suggesting firing Comey over his handling of the investigation into Clinton’s use of a private email server.

However, several days later, the president told NBC’s Lester Holt that he fired Comey over the investigation into Russian collusion.

"When I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story," Trump said at the time of the decision to dismiss Comey.

More recently, Trump tweeted in April that Comey “was not fired because of the phony Russia investigation.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/03/trump-fire-comey-reason-rudy-giuliani-566043

If you need a reminder why this is bad beyond revealing Trump is a baldfaced liar, here goes; this lays a serious foundation that Trump was obstructing justice, which is a felony, by eliminating the people investigating him. It is hard to prove because you have to show motivation, an always tricky issue. But now we have Trump's own legal counsel saying teh President fired Comey specifically because Comey would not exempt the President from investigation, which gives motivation for the obstructing justice accusation.

In regards to Stormy Daniels, Giuliani said:


“Are you concerned that a foreign national, Christopher Steele, was paid through Fusion GPS, his Russian sources that weren’t only not verified but debunked, are you concerned that was paid for to manipulate the American people in the lead up to the election?” Hannity asked.

“Isn’t that closer to the mandate than Michael Cohen having something to do with paying some Stormy Daniels woman $130,000?” Giuliani said. “Which is going to turn out to be perfectly legal. That money was not campaign money. Sorry, I’m giving you a fact now that you don’t know. It’s not campaign money. No campaign finance violation.”

“So they funneled it through a law firm?” Hannity asked. “Funneled it through a law firm, and then the president repaid,” Giuliani responded.

“Oh,” Hannity responded, hilariously. “I didn’t know. He did?”

“Trump didn’t know about the specifics of [the hush money agreement], as far as I know,” Giuliani said later. “But he did know about the general arrangement that Michael would take care of things like this, like I take care of things like this for my clients. I don’t burden them with every single thing that comes along.”

Giuliani’s revelation directly contradicts what Michael Cohen has said for months, that Trump had no knowledge of the payment. “In a private transaction in 2016, I used my own personal funds to facilitate a payment of $130,000 to Ms. Stephanie Clifford,” Michael Cohen said in February. “Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly.”

The Stormy Daniels confession can be seen in this segment of the interview beginning around the 10:50 mark.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=660&v=5Jl5aC6rSPk



So now we have the President's legal counsel admitting the President obstructed justice by firing a man investigating him because he wouldn't stop investigating the President (makes you wonder what he was hiding, right?) and we know Trump was paying Cohen back for taking care of his "dirty business" as well as knowing Trump is a liar, adulterer, and deceiver, with the morals of a Cheeto.

[Swordsmyth]

Yawn.
A big nothing burger.

[jmdrake]

Yawn.
A big nothing burger.

From the standpoint of legal liability, you are probably right. From the standpoint of some conservative talk show hosts who have defended Trump but said "If he's lying about Stormy Daniels, we can't defend him on that"...well now they have egg on their face. That said I don't expect them to go anywhere.

[dannno]

If you need a reminder why this is bad beyond revealing Trump is a baldfaced liar, here goes;

Wait, based on whose word again?

Looks like Guilliani just outted himself as deep state (if you were already unaware)

[specsaregood]

So now we have the President's legal counsel admitting the President obstructed justice by firing a man investigating him because he wouldn't stop investigating the President (makes you wonder what he was hiding, right?)

Uhm, that's not what he "admitted" to at all, not even close.

[TheCount]

The new justification is that Trump pays off porn stars for no reason. Maybe his lawyers just pick a new woman each month and give them some money.

[dannno]

Fake News Alert


The new justification is that Trump pays off porn stars for no reason.

Fake News Alert

[TheCount]

Fake News Alert



Fake News Alert
Why did he pay her $130,000?

[specsaregood]

Why did he pay her $130,000?

Dunno, why does it matter?

[Galileo Galilei]

Nothing was "admitted" by Ghouliani.

[Jan2017]

What scares us is that this new WH lawyer, aka the "CEO of 9-11" - could want to dance at the 2020 GOP convention with his bromance buddy Trump, as the fave possible replacement of VP Dan Quayle on the ticket . . . I mean Mike Pence.

[enhanced_deficit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZzyq3S-4Yk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZzyq3S-4Yk





Looks like Guilliani just outted himself as deep state (if you were already unaware)

You think he lied last night and was not speaking with approval of Trump even though Trump just added him to his legal team?
Why would Trump bring in a deep state on his legal team .. or you think Trump is also deep state?

Two and two don't add up.




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Quoting Kelly from hit TV show 'Office', what kinda game is this?

Also, Kushner is leading Mideast Peace Process between Israel-Palestine and other vital projects, Giuliani doesn't care about mideast peace?


Rudy Giuliani says Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner is 'disposable,' warns against investigating Ivanka

Dan Mangan Published 2 Hours Ago

https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2017/05/08/104455173-RTS137YB.530x298.jpg?v=1494269352 (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/03/rudy-giuliani-said-trumps-son-in-law-jared-kushner-is-disposable.html#)

Rudy Giuliani called President Donald Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, "disposable" — and warned that special counsel Robert Mueller should stay away from Ivanka Trump.

Giuliani's off-the-cuff cut on Kushner, a senior adviser to the president, came Wednesday night as he also revealed that the president had repaid long-time lawyer Michael Cohen for a $130,000 hush-money payment to porn star Stormy Daniels.
Giuliani, who is now on Trump's legal team, told Fox News' Sean Hannity that Kushner's wife, Ivanka, should not be subject to Mueller's probe of Russian meddling into the 2016 election.

Ivanka Trump is also a senior presidential adviser.
"Jared is a fine man, you know that," the former New York mayor said. "Men are disposable."
"But a fine woman like Ivanka? Come on."
"'Ivanka Trump? I think I would get on my charger and go right into ... their offices with a lance if they go after Ivanka," the former federal prosecutor said of Mueller's team.

Giuliani also predicted that "the whole country will turn on," Mueller if the special counsel went after the president's daughter.

Mueller is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, as well as possible collusion by Trump campaign officials.
In June 2016, Trump's son Donald Jr., Kushner and then-campaign chief Paul Manafort met with a Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, at Trump Tower in New York.
Donald Trump Jr. accepted the meeting with Veselnitskaya after he was told she had incriminating information about former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who was running for president against his father.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/03/rudy-giuliani-said-trumps-son-in-law-jared-kushner-is-disposable.html







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[dannno]

Why did he pay her $130,000?

Because she threatened to unveil a sex scandal to the media that didn't even have time to be vetted by the public or media a week before the election?

Were you seriously born yesterday? That has got to be the dumbest question I've seen on this forum.

[dean.engelhardt]

I believe reimbursing Cohen $130,000 keeps it away from being an illegal campaign contribution. Remember, Trump denies knowing anything about the payment when it happened. He may be lying, but unless someone can prove he is lying it doesn't matter. Can't frame Trump for the money going from Cohen to Daniels without proof.

It only makes sense for Trump to repay Cohen after he learns about the $130,000 to take away the appearance it was a campaign contribution.

Daniels still has to prove she had sex with Trump to win her defamation suit. Monica Lewinsky is looking like a genius keeping the blue dress. Maybe Daniels has something like that. It would be interesting.

[dannno]

I believe reimbursing Cohen $130,000 keeps it away from being an illegal campaign contribution. Remember, Trump denies knowing anything about the payment when it happened. He may be lying, but unless someone can prove he is lying it doesn't matter. Can't frame Trump for the money going from Cohen to Daniels without proof.

It only makes sense for Trump to repay Cohen after he learns about the $130,000 to take away the appearance it was a campaign contribution.

Daniels still has to prove she had sex with Trump to win her defamation suit. Monica Lewinsky is looking like a genius keeping the blue dress. Maybe Daniels has something like that. It would be interesting.

That's a good point - Trump could have reimbursed Cohen $130,000 for "Misc. Expenses" and not known what it was for.

[enhanced_deficit]

Trump should go back to his advertized policy of surrounding himself with the best people.
Or these are the best people in his best judgment?


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RUDY CLEAN UP (https://apnews.com/8a48ef57cc8c42da8cf1ab5bcc59567a/Trump%27s-new-%27Stormy%27-story-clashes-with-earlier-statements)
...OR BIGGER MESS? (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/03/us/politics/giuliani-trump-michael-cohen-stormy-daniels.html)


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Giuliani May Have Exposed Trump to New Legal and Political Perils By MICHAEL D. SHEAR, MATT APUZZO and MAGGIE HABERMANMAY 3, 2018


President Trump reshuffled his legal team in recent weeks as he has sought a more aggressive posture in dealing with the investigations into him and his associates. Credit Doug Mills/The New York Times

WASHINGTON — President Trump’s new legal team made a chaotic debut as Rudolph W. Giuliani, who was tapped recently to be one of the president’s lawyers, potentially exposed his client to legal and political danger by publicly revealing the existence of secret payments to Michael D. Cohen, the president’s personal lawyer.
After he moved into the White House, the president began paying Mr. Cohen $35,000 a month, Mr. Giuliani said, in part as reimbursement for a $130,000 payment that Mr. Cohen made to a pornographic film actress to keep her from going public about an affair she said she had with Mr. Trump. The president confirmed he made payments (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/03/us/politics/trump-cohen-giuliani.html) to Mr. Cohen in a series of Twitter posts on Thursday morning.
The explosive revelation, which Mr. Giuliani said was intended to prove that Mr. Trump and Mr. Cohen violated no campaign finance laws, prompted frustration and disbelief among the president’s other legal and political advisers, some of whom said they feared the gambit could backfire.
Legally, the failure to disclose the payments could be a violation of the Ethics in Government Act of 1978, which requires that federal officials, including Mr. Trump, report any liabilities of more than $10,000 during the preceding year. Mr. Trump’s last disclosure report, which he signed and filed in June, mentions no debt to Mr. Cohen.
Politically, Mr. Giuliani’s remarks — made in television appearances and interviews — raised questions about the president’s truthfulness and created a firestorm at the White House, where aides were caught off guard and furiously sought to deflect questions they could not answer. Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, said she had been unaware of the payments before the interviews.



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/03/us/politics/giuliani-trump-michael-cohen-stormy-daniels.html



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[TheCount]

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[r3volution 3.0]

The idiot former mayor is now serving the idiot President of the United States.

Oh well, just don't bother me.

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[Weston White]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSTixJ-SUgsAmwmhpbJpDOITCN3hNQXFQNCHR1yDffDOfPuFWMm

https://mfi-miami.com/2016/09/rudy-giuliani/

[Schifference]

Trump said something to the effect that Giuliani is new and didn't know what he was saying and was incorrect. Rudy needs some time to get up to speed but what he said was not correct.

[jmdrake]

Because she threatened to unveil a sex scandal to the media that didn't even have time to be vetted by the public or media a week before the election?

And why exactly did she have a sex scandal to reveal?

[jmdrake]

Wait, based on whose word again?

Looks like Guilliani just outted himself as deep state (if you were already unaware)

Yes. Because protecting your client from legal repercussions by proving no laws were broken because Trump paid for this with his own money instead of using campaign funds is how you prove you are "deep state." :rolleyes: Guilliani got Trump out of hot water and stupid Trump just jumped back in. This is what most likely happened. Guilliani and Trump discussed what Guilliani would say before he said it. You know Guilliani is actually a real official spokesperson, not someone that Trump tweeted "I like what he says" about. Trump was willing to go with the Guilliani plan until he got word that some of his naive Christian conservative backers wanted to go along with the "I did not have sex with that woman" myth. So Trump decided to choose legal uncertainty over political backpeddling.

[dannno]

And why exactly did she have a sex scandal to reveal?

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Pm4anc3r0QE/U1Xrn-d0R8I/AAAAAAAB-vc/dSjC1tWK5SE/w506-h750/dudeinlimo2.jpg

[TheCount]

That's a good point - Trump could have reimbursed Cohen $130,000 for "Misc. Expenses" and not known what it was for.
Then how did he know whether or not she needed to be paid off?

[dannno]

Then how did he know whether or not she needed to be paid off?

You are slow learning like zippy, it's really the most frustrating quality of trolls..

I already replied DIRECTLY TO YOU earlier, and explained it, so I know you read it..

But, once again, she was going to come out with it a week before the election, there was no time for anybody to vet it, and so whether it happened or not is irrelevant. It was irrelevant then, it's irrelevant now, nobody actually gives a shit if he slept with a porn star. People only care about the payment because they have TDS and want Trump to get in trouble with teacher and not be President anymore. You're like little children.

Hillary, on the other hand, her scandals actually cause millions of people to die and suffer. Trump had sex with a porn star. This is why your side is so pathetic.

[Zippyjuan]

nobody actually gives a $#@! if he slept with a porn star.

If it somebody whose political views you agree with it does it, no problem. If it is somebody from the other party doing it, major issue. Or would you argue that Clinton should not have been impeached for lying about having consensual sex?

[TheCount]

You are slow learning like zippy, it's really the most frustrating quality of trolls..

I already replied DIRECTLY TO YOU earlier, and explained it, so I know you read it...
Your functional illiteracy is probably why you prefer your programming to come via YouTube. I'll try to ask my question again, but Barney-style.


But, once again, she was going to come out with it a week before the election...

Again: How did he know? How is it that Cohen became aware of the fact that she was going to do this?

Make sure that your explanation somehow involves Cohen finding out without Trump, or any of Trump's staff, or anyone in Trump's campaign finding out. Oh, and then neither Cohen nor anybody else told Trump about about it because... Reasons?



Trump had sex with a porn star.
Are you saying that Trump is lying about this?

[TheCount]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Pm4anc3r0QE/U1Xrn-d0R8I/AAAAAAAB-vc/dSjC1tWK5SE/w506-h750/dudeinlimo2.jpg
Your theory is that a woman who wants to blackmail a celebrity does so without actually contacting the celebrity themselves?


The cocoon of illogic that you use to shield yourself from reality gets more impressive every day.

[timosman]

Your theory is that a woman who wants to blackmail a celebrity does so without actually contacting the celebrity themselves?


The cocoon of illogic that you use to shield yourself from reality gets more impressive every day.

You seem to be well informed about the intricate details of this case. You could also be just making shit up. :eek:

[jmdrake]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Pm4anc3r0QE/U1Xrn-d0R8I/AAAAAAAB-vc/dSjC1tWK5SE/w506-h750/dudeinlimo2.jpg

Oh. She fed Trump's monkey? That's the first time I heard that term. I usually have heard it called "spank the monkey" but not "feed the monkey." Thank you for clearing that up for me. :rolleyes:

[jmdrake]

Your theory is that a woman who wants to blackmail a celebrity does so without actually contacting the celebrity themselves?


The cocoon of illogic that you use to shield yourself from reality gets more impressive every day.

Yeah. dannno believes that all a bimbo has to do is to go up to a celeb's lawyer and say "Pay me $130,000.00" and bingo! There's the check! Or maybe Dannno believes that "feed the monkey" is code word for giving Trump oral sex. Who knows?

[TheCount]

You seem to be well informed about the intricate details of this case. You could also be just making shit up. :eek:
I'm not making anything up; all of those details were provided by @dannno (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=10908).

Here's his theory, summarized:


Trump had sex with a porn star.

(Which Trump denies)


she threatened to unveil a sex scandal to the media

(She threatened to do this but didn't tell Trump, because reasons.)


nobody actually gives a shit if he slept with a porn star.

(But it was covered up anyway.)

There's an unexplained step here, which is what I've asked the Trumpwhisperer to fill us all in on:

The blackmail threat, which was not communicated to Trump, was somehow forwarded to Cohen who, coincidentally, is well-versed in paying off mistresses. Then Cohen, who did not know if Trump had actually fucked her or not, and had not in any way communicated with Trump about the matter, decides that he should pay her $130,000 and get her to sign an NDA with Trump's name on it. He doesn't tell Trump about the agreement or get Trump to sign it, instead entirely completing a business agreement in his client's name without his client's knowledge.

(Except Trump said “... with this crazy Stormy Daniels deal he represented me.")

And, finally:

Trump... reimbursed Cohen $130,000

(Except not all at once; in small payments over time to cover up the completely legal above-board thing that they did for no reason at all.)

[jmdrake]

But, once again, she was going to come out with it a week before the election, there was no time for anybody to vet it, and so whether it happened or not is irrelevant. It was irrelevant then, it's irrelevant now, nobody actually gives a $#@! if he slept with a porn star. People only care about the payment because they have TDS and want Trump to get in trouble with teacher and not be President anymore. You're like little children.


Actually Trump's naive Christian conservative base cares about it. I've heard that bantered around on talk radio. "If he has lied to us about Stormy Daniels while POTUS then how can we trust him on anything else?"

And this is why Trump is his own worst enemy. Giuliani was trying to help Trump. The only legal jeopardy Trump would have been in is if campaign funds were used. By identifying the source of the funds, Giuliani was putting this legal issue to bed. Then Trump came out and said "Giuliani doesn't know what he's talking about." And for his troubles Giuliani is being labeled "deep state" by people who just aren't bright enough to understand what's going on.

Something else that you are missing. There were a LOT of women who had accused Trump of all sorts of things before the election. If nothing had happened with Stormy Daniels and if she had just made the story up then Trump could have ignored it and she'd be just one woman of many. Something likely happened and she might have hard evidence like Monica Lewinsky had on Clinton.

[dannno]

Oh. She fed Trump's monkey? That's the first time I heard that term. I usually have heard it called "spank the monkey" but not "feed the monkey." Thank you for clearing that up for me. :rolleyes:

Oh, I thought you had seen the film.. she needs money.

[dannno]

Your functional illiteracy is probably why you prefer your programming to come via YouTube. I'll try to ask my question again, but Barney-style.



Again: How did he know? How is it that Cohen became aware of the fact that she was going to do this?

Make sure that your explanation somehow involves Cohen finding out without Trump, or any of Trump's staff, or anyone in Trump's campaign finding out. Oh, and then neither Cohen nor anybody else told Trump about about it because... Reasons?


Are you saying that Trump is lying about this?

Why wouldn't she contact Trump's attorney first?

[jmdrake]

Oh, I thought you had seen the film.. she needs money.

Everybody needs money. But why would Trump's attorney pay her if nothing happened? There were a lot of women accusing Trump of this or that right before the election.

[dannno]

Everybody needs money. But why would Trump's attorney pay her if nothing happened? There were a lot of women accusing Trump of this or that right before the election.

I dunno, maybe that's why she didn't get that much money, but she does have the porn star power.

[TheCount]

Why wouldn't she contact Trump's attorney first?

Okay, sure, that doesn't make any sense, but let's go with it... except, according to Trump, Cohen is primarily a businessman and doesn't handle most of Trump's legal work. Only a tiny fraction of it, he said.

[dannno]

Okay, sure, that doesn't make any sense, but let's go with it... except, according to Trump, Cohen is primarily a businessman and doesn't handle most of Trump's legal work. Only a tiny fraction of it, he said.

Why doesn't it make any sense?

[TheCount]

I dunno, maybe that's why she didn't get that much money, but she does have the porn star power.

Trump's never shied away from a libel lawsuit before; if she's lying, why is he so desperately eager to avoid the chance to prove it in court?

[Jan2017]

Why did he pay her $130,000?


Nothing was "admitted" by Ghouliani.


Because she threatened to unveil a sex scandal to the media that didn't even have time to be vetted by the public or media a week before the election?

Were you seriously born yesterday? That has got to be the dumbest question I've seen on this forum.

Of course . . . the porn star hoe who had a date in 2006 with the GOP Presidential Candidate would have to be paid something with the legally signed confidentially agreement/contract.
But was there a condition she could just return the $130,000 if the GOP Candidate could actually defeat the Clinton Machine permeating the top state for the now infamous 2016 elections ?

Stormy clearly has returned the monies with interest . . .
to avoid the breach of contract provisions of the legal document in which she signed her name so bigly.

[enhanced_deficit]

If turned out that money that Essential Consultants paid to Stormy had come from Novartis and not from GOP candidate turned POTUS, did Giuliani still cause an exposure?



According to Avenatti's memo, pharmaceutical company Novartis made four separate payments of $99,980 to the Essential Consultants bank account in late 2017 to early 2018;


"Following these payments, reports surfaced that Mr. Trump took a dinner with the incoming CEO of Novartis before Mr. Trump's speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland in late January 2018," Avenatti's report said.


Cohen established the firm Essential Consultants in the weeks leading up to Election Day to make a $130,000 payment to Daniels, as a part of an agreement to prevent the porn star from discussing her alleged affair with Trump.


Stormy Daniels' lawyer: US company linked to Russian oligarch paid $500,000 to Cohen (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?522075-Media-trying-to-paint-POTUS-as-swamp&p=6626811&viewfull=1#post6626811)
Tue May 8, 2018

[TheCount]

If turned out that money that Essential Consultants paid to Stormy had come from Novartis and not from GOP candidate turned POTUS, did Giuliani still cause an exposure?
That would make it an in-kind donation to Trump's campaign from a foreigner.

[enhanced_deficit]

Then Giuliani may not have made things any better if that turns out to be the case.
Let's wait till investigations are completed.

[Jan2017]

Then Giuliani may not have made things any better if that turns out to be the case.
Let's wait till investigations are completed.
Guiliani wrong on facts -
heck that like never happens.


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