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Anti Federalist
04-24-2018, 01:26 PM
Sen. Sanders to announce proposal promising jobs to all Americans

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/384554-sanders-to-announce-proposal-to-guarantee-jobs-to-all-americans

BY JOHN BOWDEN - 04/24/18 08:49 AM EDT

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is set to announce a federal jobs proposal that would guarantee a job with at least a $15-per-hour wage and health benefits to every adult American “who wants or needs one,” The Washington Post reports.

The senator is still in the early stages of crafting the plan, according to the Post, which would provide a job or required training for any American.

Sanders's office has yet to release the details of the plan's funding, but previous large-scale projects proposed by the Vermont progressive have involved ending tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans and large corporations.

The Vermont senator joins two other possible 2020 contenders, Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Cory Booker (D-N.J.), who have also expressed support for similar proposals in recent weeks.

“The goal is to eliminate working poverty and involuntary unemployment altogether,” Darrick Hamilton, an economist at The New School, told the Post.

“This is an opportunity for something transformative, beyond the tinkering we've been doing for the last 40 years, where all the productivity gains have gone to the elite of society.”

Critics of federal jobs proposals say that government intervention to raise wages could lead to private businesses cutting costs in other areas, including hiring fewer employees. Sanders is a longtime advocate of "Fight for 15," the national movement aimed at raising the minimum wage to $15 per hour.

The proposal would have trouble gaining enough Democratic support to get real traction and conservatives have long said a jobs promise is unsustainable and unaffordable, citing costs, the effects on the private sector and the possibility of inflation.

“It completely undercuts a lot of industries and companies,” Brian Riedl of the conservative-leaning Manhattan Institute told the Post. “There will be pressure to introduce a higher wage or certain benefits that the private sector doesn't offer.”

Sanders has not announced a 2020 presidential run but has left his options open. He was notably the country's most popular active politician in a Harvard-Harris poll last year.

The Vermont senator will be 79 years old on Election Day in 2020, four years after losing to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 Democratic primary.

Anti Federalist
04-24-2018, 01:27 PM
Sanders has not announced a 2020 presidential run but has left his options open. He was notably the country's most popular active politician in a Harvard-Harris poll last year.

Freedom is NOT popular.

Soviet-esque government slave jobs are.

Danke
04-24-2018, 01:29 PM
Only $15/hour!?!?

It should be $50, Mr. Sanders!

jkr
04-24-2018, 01:31 PM
15 aint shit

bunklocoempire
04-24-2018, 01:32 PM
Because Dudley Dough will work this time, if guns are used to scale it up to as big as it needs to be.

:rolleyes:

Swordsmyth
04-24-2018, 01:34 PM
And how many of those jobs will be spying on your fellow Americans?

Anti Federalist
04-24-2018, 01:37 PM
And how many of those jobs will be spying on your fellow Americans?

Well, they Got Thousands Standing Around to grope and gate rape us, so I reckon that will be a growth industry.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
04-24-2018, 03:16 PM
I don't see how this could possibly fail.

Dr.3D
04-24-2018, 03:24 PM
Would this mean, welfare would end?

Swordsmyth
04-24-2018, 03:24 PM
And when they come out with UBI they will require recipients to join the junior G-Men reserve force.

It is all part of the plan.
...

TheCount
04-24-2018, 04:33 PM
Let's get the tariff crew in here; they'll be all for this!

@kahless (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=3352) dannno

Swordsmyth
04-24-2018, 04:36 PM
Let's get the tariff crew in here; they'll be all for this!



That makes no sense.

Raginfridus
04-24-2018, 04:36 PM
Only $15/hour!?!?

It should be $50, Mr. Sanders!

50 will be the cost of each of each 15 job.

Fuck Sanders

TheCount
04-24-2018, 04:37 PM
That makes no sense.
No sense that I didn't @ you? You were already in the thread.

Anti Globalist
04-24-2018, 04:42 PM
Can this guy just fade into obscurity already?

Swordsmyth
04-24-2018, 04:43 PM
No sense that I didn't @ you? You were already in the thread.

Tariffs designed to protect against economic warfare by foreign countries have nothing to do with communism at home.

dannno
04-24-2018, 04:54 PM
Let's get the tariff crew in here; they'll be all for this!

@kahless (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=3352) @dannno (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=10908)

How is this going to lead to lower taxes?

oyarde
04-24-2018, 05:10 PM
Thanks Vermont .

pcosmar
04-24-2018, 05:18 PM
Ha Ha ha,,,

Bernies followers don't want jobs.. just paychecks.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRDOrCFIY4c

Swordsmyth
04-24-2018, 05:24 PM
Ha Ha ha,,,

Bernies followers don't want jobs.. just paychecks.

And Communist leaders don't want pets.. just minions.
That's why after the revolution all of the sincere communists are executed.
UBI will come with a requirement to spy for the people's police or to join the gendarmerie as a part-time enforcer.

A Son of Liberty
04-24-2018, 05:24 PM
It's like Atlas Shrugged playing out right before our eyes.

TheCount
04-24-2018, 06:24 PM
How is this going to lead to lower taxes?
Obviously you haven't been paying attention. You need to look at the bigger picture. It's a small price to pay for increased productivity, and so long as we sell the products of the collective's labor abroad, it means that it's free and other countries are paying for it. Overall revenue to the collective will increase.

Swordsmyth
04-24-2018, 06:28 PM
Obviously you haven't been paying attention. You need to look at the bigger picture. It's a small price to pay for increased productivity, and so long as we sell the products of the collective's labor abroad, it means that it's free and other countries are paying for it. Overall revenue to the collective will increase.

That is nonsense and has nothing to do with defensive tariffs.

Ender
04-24-2018, 07:01 PM
Freedom is NOT popular.

Soviet-esque government slave jobs are.

That's because everyone is truly living in The Matrix and have no idea that the "American Dream" is a life of slavery.

Ender
04-24-2018, 07:02 PM
That is nonsense and has nothing to do with defensive tariffs.

It was sarcasm, Dude.

spudea
04-24-2018, 07:06 PM
Meanwhile we are currently setting record low unemployment levels. His message would do better to attack the super rich robber barons using slave labor like Jeff Bezos.

Swordsmyth
04-24-2018, 07:07 PM
It was sarcasm, Dude.
I know, but it still missed it's mark, the implications intended do not apply to defensive tariffs.

Swordsmyth
04-24-2018, 07:37 PM
https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/hnGHsLHo0CjW_qT43v9TnA--~B/Zmk9c3RyaW07aD0zODY7cHlvZmY9MDtxPTgwO3c9NDQwO3NtPT E7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/http://l.yimg.com/yp/offnetwork/477cc6b16dd4d110ca14f8a23c1495df

kahless
04-24-2018, 07:38 PM
Let's get the tariff crew in here; they'll be all for this!

I do not support tariff's within our borders, never have. In a trade war against a foreign power that bars some sectors of our imports, institutes high tariffs on our exports to them and is basically waging economic warfare on our people is different case altogether.

TheTexan
04-24-2018, 07:48 PM
Only $15/hour!?!?

It should be $50, Mr. Sanders!

Even the TSA pays better than what Bernie is proposing. SAD.

TheTexan
04-24-2018, 07:52 PM
A much better idea would be to just give everyone $15/hr just for being an American.

We deserve it.

#UBI #2020

Vieux Canard
04-24-2018, 08:29 PM
We don't know what it's going to cost but fuck it, let's propose it anyway. (and they say that free market proposals are simplistic).

Vieux Canard
04-24-2018, 08:32 PM
A much better idea would be to just give everyone $15/hr just for being an American.

We deserve it.

#UBI #2020

This is what I think about Texas. Never have been so many been so proud about so little...and wtf is up with all the tollways in Dallas and Houston named after war criminals?

DamianTV
04-24-2018, 09:13 PM
This is what I think about Texas. Never have been so many been so proud about so little...and wtf is up with all the tollways in Dallas and Houston named after war criminals?

Perception of history making bad guys look like the good guys to the unawakened sheeple. You'll NEVER see an Edward Snowden Memorial Highway, EVER.

asurfaholic
04-24-2018, 11:09 PM
This is what I think about Texas. Never have been so many been so proud about so little...and wtf is up with all the tollways in Dallas and Houston named after war criminals?

Name a few of them..

Pauls' Revere
04-24-2018, 11:47 PM
Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
And when they come out with UBI they will require recipients to join the junior G-Men reserve force.

It is all part of the plan.

2020 Presidential Candidate Yang already planning on it.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/markets/2020-presidential-candidate-wants-to-give-everyone-241000-a-month/ar-AAvLSi7

"The most direct and concrete way for the government to improve your life is to send you a check for $1,000 every month and let you spend it in whatever manner will benefit you the most," Yang writes on his campaign website.

Under Yang's plan, the UBI payment would be funded by a "new tax on the companies that are benefiting most from automation," he says in a video on his campaign's website.

That tax, he explains, would be a value-added tax (VAT) of 10 percent on goods and services a company produces. (Europe already has a VAT, with rates ranging from 17 percent in Luxembourg to 27 percent in Hungary as of Jan.1, 2018, according to the European Commission.)

The idea of a VAT will become ever more important, according to Yang's campaign, "because you cannot collect income tax from robots or software."

RJB
04-25-2018, 06:36 AM
This is why Trump won. Trump's base doesn't want living wages to work at Wal-Mart or in bureaucratic drudgery after acquiring 100s of thousands in student loan debt; they want to build cars, jets, houses, etc. This isn't just a slogan. I have family members and friends in their 40s - 70s who have been union democrats all their lives and for the first time voted for a Republican in Trump. When having to choose between Hillary's promise of a living wage and Trump's promise of bringing back jobs, the formerly honorable blue collar democrat, suddenly became the uneducated racist redneck.

I am not a Trump fan, but Bernie is disconnected from the reality of why Trump won. Bernie offering living wages in Federal bureaucracies that seek to regulate the remaining decent jobs out of existence is not a winning idea among the old school democrats. Although this message may resonate with the millennial generation who never saw a reality where only one parent needed to work, or have access to jobs that actually creates something.

Vieux Canard
04-25-2018, 07:28 AM
Name a few of them..

George W. Bush turnpike. Lyndon B. Johnson freeway...

Weston White
04-25-2018, 08:07 AM
...And in other breaking news, leprechauns do exist; hobbits behold magical powers, unicorns are really real, really, and they also spew rainbow Skittle infused clouds from their mouths, lay cotton candy roadways, and deuce gold nuggets the leprechauns collect and deliver right to your front door; Trix actually are for kids; and democracy is like crack, just only better.

asurfaholic
04-25-2018, 09:08 AM
George W. Bush turnpike. Lyndon B. Johnson freeway...

Yea that’s pretty f’ed up

kahless
04-25-2018, 09:11 AM
When having to choose between Hillary's promise of a living wage and Trump's promise of bringing back jobs, the formerly honorable blue collar democrat, suddenly became the uneducated racist redneck.

Looking down your nose and mocking the blue collar working man as an uneducated racist rednecks is another big reason why Hillary lost and rightfully so.

Anti Federalist
04-25-2018, 09:30 AM
This is what I think about Texas. Never have been so many been so proud about so little...and wtf is up with all the tollways in Dallas and Houston named after war criminals?

Truth.

+rep

RJB
04-25-2018, 10:32 AM
Looking down your nose and mocking the blue collar working man as an uneducated racist rednecks is another big reason why Hillary lost and rightfully so.

The blue collar worker was the bread and butter of the DNC. Now? One of my uncle's who never voted Republican voted for Trump. He said something to the effect of:" for years all Democrats talked about was jobs, now it's all about what bathroom 50+ genders use." He's never seen a transgender outside of the Jerry Springer show. The DNC has totally lost touch with reality in the eyes of it's pre2010 base.

bunklocoempire
04-25-2018, 11:45 AM
Can this guy just fade into obscurity already?

Just as soon as the individual comes to believe that the world owes them nothing.
Guess what? hehe

bunklocoempire
04-25-2018, 11:47 AM
Tariffs designed to protect against economic warfare by foreign countries have nothing to do with communism at home.

When I start getting loopy and inconsistent, I take a NAP.

Brian4Liberty
04-25-2018, 03:01 PM
...And in other breaking news, leprechauns do exist; hobbits behold magical powers, unicorns are really real, really, and they also spew rainbow Skittle infused clouds from their mouths, lay cotton candy roadways, and deuce gold nuggets the leprechauns collect and deliver right to your front door; Trix actually are for kids; and democracy is like crack, just only better.

Bernie Sanders is going to cure all of your ills!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7xNult1GVM