Trump's War on Russia/Syria UPDATES

[goldenequity]

Might as well give it a home.
I'll try and keep it fresh.
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Explosions rocking #Damascus #Syria !

Breaking: Syrian air-defenses are now active as big explosions heard

Breaking: Syrian Pantsir S1 system is firing at targets over Damascus city now

So far it is confirmed that US hit a target south of Damascus city and a target north of it, likely Jymraia research facility

The target that was hit south of Damascus is in al-Kaswa, a civilian area

REUTERS WITNESS HEARS IN DAMASCUS SEVERAL BIG EXPLOSIONS, SEES SMOKE RISING ON EAST SIDE OF CITY: RTRS #SYRIA

Breaking | Syrian Air Defense launched Hundreds of missiles to hit Tomahawk missiles near Damascus

A second batch of US missiles just reached Damascus, Syrian air defense is firing again

BREAKING: RAF JETS TAKING OFF OUT OF CYPRUS

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I turned FOX off... don't want to hear their bullshiit.

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US strikes now hitting command and control structures in #Damascus. #Syrian air defense firing throughout the city.

The engagement now happening in North and South of #Damascus
No reports of what’s been hit.

But many missiles were downed.

Scientific Research Centre, East of #Damascus, reportedly hit


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Mezzeh military airport was hit as well

U.S led Strikes apparently targeted #Masyaf as well



Unconfirmed report: US strike on Jamraya center fully failed, the center was not hit

The Research Center in Barzeh and one of the Republican Guards bases on Qasioun Mountain are among the targets

#BREAKING: Russian Air Defence now active intercepting US cruise missiles

CONFIRMED: #Russia IS helping defend #Damascus from US-led missile attack.

#BREAKING: Al-Dumayr Airbase now under attack along with many other locations across Syria

a new wave of US missile on Qutaifa missile base north of Damascus, Syria air defense firing now

[goldenequity]

BREAKING:AL-DUMAYR MILITARY AIRBASE HAS BIT HIT BY US TOMAHAWK MISSILES

Syria aircraft up in air

Reports of US/French/British cruise missiles hitting at least 4 Syrian cities.

Murad Gazdiev
No US missiles reported passing near Russian air base in Latakia.
US apparently firing cruise missile through Lebanese airspace. This is likely to prevent them being shot down.

a new wave of US missile on Qutaifa missile base north of Damascus, Syria air defense firing now

BREAKING: Civilian casualties are being reported in Damascus as at least 2 residential areas have been struck by the US-led force's missiles. At least 4 dead in one of the strikes.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DatPKqSX4AEE6gK.jpg:small

a civilian housing complex in Baraza was hit, along with an SSRC facility

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DatPXPYWsAAOhOS.jpg:small

[goldenequity]

Wow, the US struck one of Damascus’ most densely populated suburbs. Jaramana reporting strikes.

Unconfirmed report that the presidential palace has been hit in Syria.

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1st wave strikes in black:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DatOa9JWAAEhI71.jpg:small

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Explosions at the headquarters of the Republican Guard #Syria

Wave after wave of cruise missiles hitting Syria; it is not stopping. Over 40 minutes of cruise missiles

CONFIRMED B1 BOMBERS AIRBORN

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984971417312808960

video
https://twitter.com/MuradGazdiev/status/984971417312808960

[merkelstan]

"Israeli intelligence shared intelligence on targets to identify and strike in Syria tonight." - Fox News
Literally calling the shots.

[Vieux Canard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOAtz8xWM0w

[AZJoe]

If there was any prior doubt, Trump just removed any of it.
He is a complete coward.
https://i.imgflip.com/28csso.jpg

[goldenequity]

video

https://twitter.com/Hamosh84/status/984969296249049088

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Syrian State TV announces Syrian Air Defense Forces have launched counter strikes against “American, French and British aggression on Syria”

local sources claim missile strikes have hit a major #Hezbollah base in Al-Qusayr, near the #Lebanon border.
That’d be a very significant development - the first (I believe) U.S. strike *ever* on Hezbollah & a potent message to #Iran.

Paul Antonopoulos
MAJOR! Russian jets have become active in the skies. They have left the Hmeimim airbase in #Latakia province. Not sure what their role is. #Syria

There are reports that Russian Airforce jets took off from #Latakia just now.

[GunnyFreedom]

Wow, the US struck one of Damascus’ most densely populated suburbs. Jaramana reporting strikes.

That’s just fn awful. US backed “rebels” use chemweapons on Syrians, the US blames Syria for their own ally’s strike, and further launches airstrikes on civilian populations.

[osan]

My friend Mike just sent me a message:


Prez to announce strike in Syria in the next hour. Not sure what that will mean ... tomorrow morning the world may be very different.

Hang on to your hats, guys. I don't think anyone will lose their cools, but given the infantile stupidity that passes for statesmanship today, I can no longer rule anything out beyond the edges of my comfort.

Stay tuned.

[Dr.3D]

It's a done deal already.

[Anti Globalist]

It's already been done.

[wizardwatson]

Yeah, you're literally posting right when it ended.

[Swordsmyth]

Update 2: Witnesses are reporting explosions heard in Damascus, including residential areas, although the first wave of US, UK and French attacks is allegedly targeting the following:



Republican Guard headquarters
Military airbases
Chemical weapon production sites



BREAKING: Civilian casualties are being reported in Damascus as at least 2 residential areas have been struck by the US-led force's missiles. At least 4 dead in one of the strikes. pic.twitter.com/nCjcMZUrKQ (https://t.co/nCjcMZUrKQ)
— Haidar Sumeri (@IraqiSecurity) April 14, 2018 (https://twitter.com/IraqiSecurity/status/984967996019003392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Meanwhile, Reuters adds that a total of three scientific research centers struck in the attack.
According to media reports in addition to American ships, Tomahawk missiles and aircraft - including B-1 bombers, leading the attacks, four British Tornado GR4s have targeted a military facility in Homs with Storm Shadow missiles.
While unconfirmed, Syria state TV claims that it shot down 13 missiles near Damascus.

More details:

"It's a real cacophony of sounds early this morning," @sethdoane (https://twitter.com/sethdoane?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) reports on the ground in Damascus -- the only U.S. network journalist inside Syria -- as he describes cars blaring music and waving Syrian flags https://t.co/bTaJ40jGwj pic.twitter.com/c8JeS5HHDm (https://t.co/c8JeS5HHDm)
— CBS News (@CBSNews) April 14, 2018 (https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/984972090762760192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH CENTER IN JAMRAYA HAS BEEN HIT BY US TOMAHAWK MISSILES
— تحيا الثورة أنقذوا درعا (@VivaRevolt) April 14, 2018 (https://twitter.com/VivaRevolt/status/984965320124391425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

In addition to U.S. Navy warships, U.S. Air Force B-1 bombers also took part in strikes against Assad regime in Syria: officials
— Lucas Tomlinson (@LucasFoxNews) April 14, 2018 (https://twitter.com/LucasFoxNews/status/984968767200522240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

Photo from Damascus moments ago as U.S., France and Britain conduct heavy strikes in Syria tonight. pic.twitter.com/y4em8zpk24 (https://t.co/y4em8zpk24)
— Israel Breaking (@IsraelBreaking) April 14, 2018 (https://twitter.com/IsraelBreaking/status/984968863740817408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

BREAKING - Huge blasts heard in Syria's capital @AFP (https://twitter.com/AFP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
— Jérôme Cartillier (@jcartillier) April 14, 2018 (https://twitter.com/jcartillier/status/984961393018441728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

Photo taken from a facebook video minutes ago. pic.twitter.com/HMpajeehCS (https://t.co/HMpajeehCS)
— Maram (@maramkasem) April 14, 2018 (https://twitter.com/maramkasem/status/984962710277324800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

Another footage of Syrian air-defense missile fired towards tomahawk rockets in the sky of Damascus. pic.twitter.com/7FVcXN5i2F (https://t.co/7FVcXN5i2F)
— Majd Fahd ���� (@Syria_Protector) April 14, 2018 (https://twitter.com/Syria_Protector/status/984964063217246210?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

VIDEO: Unverified footage of air-defense systems activated around Damascus - @IsraelBreaking (https://twitter.com/IsraelBreaking?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) pic.twitter.com/MKZgHj6RRq (https://t.co/MKZgHj6RRq)
— Conflict News (@Conflicts) April 14, 2018 (https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/984963530351939585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Pentagon: There will be a press briefing at 10 p.m. EDT, tonight, April 13, in the Pentagon Briefing Room on operations in Syria.

Latest: US Defense officials say both US ships and aircraft were used in the strikes on #Syria (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Syria?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) April 14, 2018 (https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/984965566757789696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
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[AZJoe]

Tulsi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7K5Z3WSPLM

[goldenequity]

So far everything suggests that the strike was very limited, fully avoided any area with Russian presence

No Russian interference. Again, some people are posting disinformation.

And just like that; it is quiet in Damascus now. Seems to be over.

[RonZeplin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDKMJ6RXr5g

[goldenequity]

PENTAGON BRIEFING

US Gen. Joseph Dunford: "There has been only surface-to-air retaliation to this point."

US Gen. Joseph Dunford: "We did not pre-notify the Russians."

US Gen. Joseph Dunford: "This wave of strikes is over. That's why we are out here talking to you now."

Sec. Def. Mattis: "We have no additional attacks planned."

Mattis: "Right now, this is a one time shot." Says he believes Assad will get the message and be deterred from doing this again.

Dunford:"We did de-conflict the air space with the Russians using standard de-conflict methods, but did not communicate targets."

[Swordsmyth]

Update 3: at 10PM ET the, Defense Secretary Mattis and Joseph Dunford, the Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff provided the Pentagon's update, repeating that U.S., British and and French forces struck Syrias chemical weapons infrastructure tonight.

Mattis said that "Clearly, the Assad regime did not get the message last year. This time, our allies and we have struck harder."

Defense Sec. Mattis: "Clearly, the Assad regime did not get the message last year. This time, our allies and we have struck harder." https://t.co/XyHwGC7dYm pic.twitter.com/UKEzBYC4Bx (https://t.co/UKEzBYC4Bx)
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) April 14, 2018 (https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/984975475247165440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) Mattis adds that "I want to emphasize these strikes are directed at the Syrian regime. In conducting these strikes, we have gone to great lengths to avoid civilian and foreign casualties."
Then, Dunford said that the first target was a Syrian research facility, and adds that the US selected targets that would minimize risk to innocent civilians. He adds that attacks on multiple sites of Syria chemical weapons infrastructure "inflicted maximum damage."
The third target, which was in the vicinity of the second target, contained both the chemical weapons equipment storage facility and an important command post."
Meanwhile, the White House said that the US is confident the Syrian regime was behind the chemical weapons attack, based on:


media sources
victims’ symptoms
videos
“reliable information indicating coordination between Syrian military officials before the attack.”

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More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-13/watch-live-president-trump-expected-announce-military-strikes-syria-tonight

[GunnyFreedom]

So far everything suggests that the strike was very limited, fully avoided any area with Russian presence

No Russian interference. Again, some people are posting disinformation.

And just like that; it is quiet in Damascus now. Seems to be over.

It was pretty clear up front that they avoided Russian positions pretty diligently. The reports that are disputed are of missiles and/or bombs striking residential areas.

Mattis is saying that that they only targeted chem weapon sites, photos from Twitter etc in Damascus showing residential areas being hit. It remains possible that there were chem sites hidden in the residential area, but we don’t know that either.

[Dr.3D]

I expect some of the surface to air missiles will miss their targets and land in civilian neighborhoods.

Of course the U.S. will be blamed for the damage to those neighborhoods.

[Swordsmyth]

Update 5: Russia responds:



RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR ANTONOV: U.S. ACTIONS WILL HAVE CONSEQUENCES
ANTONOV ON SYRIA: `PRE-DESIGNED SCENARIO IS BEING IMPLEMENTED'


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Update 4: Joint Chiefs chairman Dunford said that while the strikes sought to minimize risk of Russian casualties, the US did not pre-notify Russia of the Syria strikes.
More from Dunford:



"We did have some surface-to-air missile activity from the Syrian regime."
"The US did not pre-notify Russian forces in Syria about tonight's kinetic activity."
"Russia was alerted of Syria strikes through "deconfliction" line in Qatar"
"U.S. forces in Syria did make adjustments to force protection levels ahead of the combined air operations against the Syrian regime."
"This wave of airstrikes is over. More information will follow in the morning."
"Manned aircraft involved in Syria operation"
"Pentagon will brief tomorrow will more strike details"


Mattis chimed in:



"We used a little over double the number of weapons this year than we used last year...We were very precise and proportionate, but at the same time, it was a heavy strike."
"I am confident the Syrian regime conducted a chemical attack on innocent people."
"Right now we have no more attacks planned"



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[RJB]

Lord have mercy.

[osan]

OK, so any upshot at this point?

Putin said he'd fire on anyone firing on Assad. Has he killed his own credibility?

[Dr.3D]

OK, so any upshot at this point?

Putin said he'd fire on anyone firing on Assad. Has he killed his own credibility?

Well, let's see if any of those missile ships has any problems. It's not like they are going to be able to hide.

I feel sorry for the folks on board those ships.

[RonZeplin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygg4843ABPk

[Brian4Liberty]

984982591278170112
https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/984982591278170112

[TheCount]

But I was told this wouldn't happen.

[Swordsmyth]

Any score card on the S-400's performance?

[oyarde]

OK, so any upshot at this point?

Putin said he'd fire on anyone firing on Assad. Has he killed his own credibility?

You think he will fire on france and england too ?

[Swordsmyth]

The White House has released the list of US demands from Assad regime


Dismantle the chemical weapons program
Declare the weapons
Destroy the stockpile
Allow OPCW fact-finding mission
Comply with the de-escalation zone


https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/white%20house%20demands.jpg

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[Vieux Canard]

Any score card on the S-400's performance?

I haven't seen anything that suggests they have been used yet but rather just Syrian government air defenses...probably S 200's

[Swordsmyth]

I haven't seen anything that suggests they have been used yet but rather just Syrian government air defenses...probably S 200's

That would seem to indicate that Russia was cooperating to some extent contrary to what is being said by both sides.

[Raginfridus]

I expect some of the surface to air missiles will miss their targets and land in civilian neighborhoods.

Of course the U.S. will be blamed for the damage to those neighborhoods.

Fucking neighborhoodd need to move! Theres wmd down there.

[AuH20]

Any score card on the S-400's performance?

I don't think they activated them.

[pcosmar]

$#@!ing neighborhoodd need to move! Theres wmd down there.

"That's what they get for bringing their children to a war zone."
Murderous Chopper Pilot

[Raginfridus]

But I was told this wouldn't happen.

It didn't. Its a bluescreen special effects.

[Origanalist]

That would seem to indicate that Russia was cooperating to some extent contrary to what is being said by both sides.

If you mean doing their best to stay out of a weapons exchange with the reckless Trump and company I guess you could call that cooperating.

[Swordsmyth]

If you mean doing their best to stay out of a weapons exchange with the reckless Trump and company I guess you could call that cooperating.
They threatened to use them in defense of Syria and they didn't, I think some kind of deal was cut.

[pao]

Update 5: Russia responds:


RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR ANTONOV: U.S. ACTIONS WILL HAVE CONSEQUENCES
ANTONOV ON SYRIA: `PRE-DESIGNED SCENARIO IS BEING IMPLEMENTED'

Any guesses as to what this pre-designed scenario might be?

Also, I hope this attack will not delay the SAA and others planned attack on ISIS just south of Damascus.

[Raginfridus]

Update 5: Russia responds:


RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR ANTONOV: U.S. ACTIONS WILL HAVE CONSEQUENCES
ANTONOV ON SYRIA: `PRE-DESIGNED SCENARIO IS BEING IMPLEMENTED'

Any guesses as to what this pre-designed scenario might be?No more vodka?

[KEEF]

... and now for Supreme Trumpeter, Mr. AJ.984999142110920706

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/984999142110920706?s=20

[dannno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EvJoYUcfVY

[AuH20]

No 4D Chess here. Trump literally exploded the chess board.

[nikcers]

They threatened to use them in defense of Syria and they didn't, I think some kind of deal was cut.
They sent supersonic stealthy bigass unstealthy planes to bomb Syria that said SHOOT ME DOWN MOTHERFUCKER I DARE YOU all over them in Russian.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP_JjNWStHk

[Swordsmyth]

They sent supersonic stealthy bigass unstealthy planes to bomb Syria that said SHOOT ME DOWN MOTHERFUCKER I DARE YOU all over them in Russian.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP_JjNWStHk

Maybe because they knew they wouldn't shoot, like if a deal was cut:

Trump might have given Syrian and Russian forces too much time to prepare for a strike, experts sayhttps://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/13/trump-may-have-given-syrian-russian-forces-too-much-time-to-prepare-for-attack-experts.html?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cheadline%7 Cstory%7C&par=yahoo&yptr=yahoo

[nikcers]

Maybe because they knew they wouldn't shoot, like if a deal was cut:

Trump might have given Syrian and Russian forces too much time to prepare for a strike, experts say

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/13/trump-may-have-given-syrian-russian-forces-too-much-time-to-prepare-for-attack-experts.html?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cheadline%7 Cstory%7C&par=yahoo&yptr=yahoo
Or maybe this is more 4d chess, they were blaming it on miscommunication or mistranslations from what I seen. One of Russia's officials declared that they would shoot stuff down anything and everything and the media ran with it- thats what America heard, Trump sent big ass unstealthy planes. I saw one excuse that it was not "Putin's" policy and that the Russian official misstated the policy.

[Swordsmyth]

I wouldn't bet either way but I lean towards no strike on Syria or another empty airbase, @dannno (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=10908) will have a field day.




Syrian air defences shot down 13 missiles fired in a U.S.-led attack on the country on Saturday, Syrian state TV said.It said the missiles had been shot down in the Kiswah area south of Damascus, the capital.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said a total of three scientific research centres had been hit in the attacks - two in Damascus and one in the Homs area - in addition to military bases in Damascus.
The Observatory said all the bases and facilities struck in the attack had been evacuated by the Syrian government earlier this week.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/syrian-air-defences-shot-down-020230628.html

[AuH20]

985024686793768961

[Influenza]

I expect some of the surface to air missiles will miss their targets and land in civilian neighborhoods.

Of course the U.S. will be blamed for the damage to those neighborhoods.
Of course they should be to blame in that circumstance too. What, are you braindead? I know the answer to that. Why the fuck are you worried about the US being blamed anyways? Washington DC deserves to be tsar Bomba nuked for the shit we do

[nikcers]

That would seem to indicate that Russia was cooperating to some extent contrary to what is being said by both sides.
Both sides are indicating that Russia is going to attack us in response?

“Again, we are being threatened. We warned that such actions will not be left without consequences.” “A pre-designed scenario is being implemented,” Russian ambassador Anatoly Antonov said

[Swordsmyth]

Both sides are indicating that Russia is going to attack us in response?
Both sides claim there was no cooperation but there seems to have been some, if there is retaliation I expect it to be as toothless as this attack.

[nikcers]

Both sides claim there was no cooperation but there seems to have been some, if there is retaliation I expect it to be as toothless as this attack.
They are going to announce it ahead of time so we can evacuate? This is perfect fucking storm for a false flag.

[Swordsmyth]

They are going to announce it ahead of time so we can evacuate? This is perfect $#@!ing storm for a false flag.

I don't know what they will do exactly, they may do nothing, but whatever they do I think it will be toothless on purpose.

[Pauls' Revere]

It's already been done.

Yep, four years ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/09/us/politics/obama-syria-chemical-weapons.html

[nikcers]

Yep, four years ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/09/us/politics/obama-syria-chemical-weapons.html
Before or after Russia put their foot down and threatened anyone who attacked their allies?

[Pauls' Revere]

Before or after Russia put their foot down and threatened anyone who attacked their allies?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/09/us/politics/obama-syria-chemical-weapons.html

https://www.larouchepac.com/20160413/obama-threatens-war-russian-forces-syria

How about the time Obama threaten Russia?

[Swordsmyth]

intel doge‏ @inteldoge (https://twitter.com/inteldoge)









So, the French defense minister has said that Russia was warned ahead of the joint strikes involving the United States and the United Kingdom.


10:24 PM - 13 Apr 2018

https://twitter.com/inteldoge/status/985025908754001920

[openfire]

Looks like the f*#ckers found something in Cohen's files during their illegal raid that will finally stick to Trump. Henceforth Trump is a captured POTUS, a puppet. The deep state won.

RIP MAGA.

[Occam's Banana]

But I was told this wouldn't happen.

This is what it took to finally oust Paul Ryan ...

[Firestarter]

On 10 April, the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) announced it will send a fact-finding mission to Douma, Syria, to investigate.

The OPCW said:
The team is preparing to deploy to Syria shortly.


No further details were released.

The OPCW’s announcement came just hours after the Syrian government officially invited them: https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-opcw-will-travel-to-douma-to-investigate-reported-chemical-weapons-attack/

There was obviously no need to wait for the OPCW actually finding out if chemical weapons were used...


Didn’t Trump say that he wanted toget out of Syria a couple of days before this chemical weapons attack in Douma was staged by our deaf, dumb and blind media?

[goldenequity]

Strike Composite Video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUppvZkPVSQ


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavK8eoXUAEwZby.jpg:small

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Russia did not engage S400s/Latakia-Tartus.
All done by Syrian air defense as per reports.

Pantsir-S1/2
Buk-M2E
S-125/S-1252M
SA-8
SA-2
AA guns

Russia helped with targets identification and tracking and so on.

Syrian Air Defense downs 71 out of 103 US coalition cruise missiles: Russian military
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-air-defense-downs-71-out-of-103-us-coalition-cruise-missiles-russian-military/

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Cruise missile remains Downed by Syrian AD systems west of Homs
(shrapnel says France)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Daux37TWkAAXnRI.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Daux37XWAAEPqMd.jpg:large


Every MDCN missile shot by France costs 2.86 Million Euros a piece.
I am getting the word from reliable (private) source that none of the French missiles reached their targets in last night's attack.
All were destroyed by Syrian BUK, Pantsir and S-200.

French Navy FREMM Frigate Launching MdCN Cruise Missiles against targets in Syria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j641GsLX0U

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UK target was the research facility, just from a brief scan of reports.

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Syrian rebels not satisfied with US coalition’s attack
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-rebels-not-satisfied-with-us-coalitions-attack/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsohB6HXEAAfoyZ.jpg:small


Jaish al-Islam's Mohammad Aloush:
"A punishment that leaves the criminal in place is a farce".

His reaction is not surprising. The attack was on insignificant targets.
The Americans didn't want to provoke Russia but had to do something symbolic to save face.
https://twitter.com/walid970721/status/985089015899656192


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MORNING AFTER

Syrian President seen in Damascus after US strikes (video)
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-president-seen-in-damascus-after-us-strikes-video/

Damascans out in streets

https://twitter.com/uunionnews/status/985073948860866560

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dauqx0hWkAEVMQ8.jpg:small

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France (lol)

France says ‘large part’ of Syria’s chemical arsenal destroyed
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/france-says-large-part-of-syrias-chemical-arsenal-destroyed/

Breaking: France wants to restart Syrian peace process after bombing Syria
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-france-wants-to-restart-syrian-peace-process-after-bombing-syria/

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Damaged research facility
(targeted twice before by the Israeli force and was not functional and was partially destroyed)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Daux-dTUwAAL1Ti.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Daux-dgUQAAKFrE.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Daux-d5U0AI44Qi.jpg:large

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dance is done -
Quarter of billion thrown out of the window
Assad remains safe as victor of 6 year war;
West can claim it has sent message;
Kremlin doesn’t need to respond;
Western contempt for proof and work of OPCW totally exposed

[RonZeplin]

Trump was afraid that the neocons that he hired would take his advise and go much tougher on him than waterboarding, so bombs away.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEuM5xbux7E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyKNi9eE4kM

Teflon Bashir, ready to face another day of tough Trump tweets.

[dean.engelhardt]

Was there a vote in Congress? Is the White House saying it is authorized under the War Power Act? Is there any explanation as how there was an eminent threat? This whole things smells of John Bolton!

[CaptUSA]

Was there a vote in Congress? Is the White House saying it is authorized under the War Power Act? Is there any explanation as how there was an eminent threat? This whole things smells of John Bolton!

“You expect an explanation?! Don’t be so unamerican. You only get to discuss the targets and the level of murder - to question their right to do so is just traitorous. They know so much more than we do. “

(Seriously, these are the types of posts on social media. Government edukashion and the US media has brainwashed the entire population. )

[phill4paul]

Lol...


Kim Dotcom: “Punish Syria, Simply Send Hillary Clinton There To Talk About Why She Lost”

http://thegoldwater.com/news/23026-Kim-Dotcom-Punish-Syria-Simply-Send-Hillary-Clinton-There-To-Talk-About-Why-She-Lost

]

[EBounding]

Doesn't matter. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! It's over! #RealNews

985130802668294144

[AZJoe]

985130802668294144

https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30708616_10155208905731493_6293548095749750784_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=2ab22d814d7d4e812d947413071137ea&oe=5B5ABF72


New concept of perfect (https://thesaker.is/the-new-us-concept-of-a-perfect-mission-32-out-of-103/), “mission accomplished“, “perfectly executed” and that he was “so proud” of his “great military“ “Precise, overwhelming and effective” considering


71 out of 103 missiles were intercepted.
there were no Syrian (or Iranian or Russian) fatalities.
not a single airfield was hit.
the buildings destroyed were empty.
only Syrian air defense were used.
Russian air defenses were not involved

[undergroundrr]

This and the monsterbomb and the airfield bombing create the most interesting illusion that we're having little 5 minute wars. It's almost as if war isn't going on the rest of the time.

[charrob]

Well, let's see if any of those missile ships has any problems. It's not like they are going to be able to hide.

I feel sorry for the folks on board those ships.

If those folks on board those ships had any real moral courage beyond concern for their own careers, they would refuse illegal orders and take some time in the brig. But that would take real courage, real ethics, real morality -- something that is completely absent in these people. I don't give a damn what happens to those assholes. :mad:

[AZJoe]

Assessment: Out With a Whimper: Trump Blinks, Delivers Limited Strikes (https://russia-insider.com/en/out-whimper-trump-blinks-delivers-limited-strikes/ri23132)

Mattis: "This is a one time shot"


These weren't the sweeping strikes Trump wanted early on. Clearly Russian warnings were taken seriously
Every indication the strikes were heavily "deconflicted" with the Russians beforehand

120 cruise missiles have been fired at three sites and it's over. ... the sweeping, sustained strikes Trump wanted initially did not happen. ... the Russian warning (https://www.checkpointasia.net/head-of-russian-general-staff-says-will-target-us-aircraft-if-strikes-on-syrian-army-threaten-his-servicemen/) they would fire back if put at risk was taken seriously. ...

Trump carried out his promise he would attack Syria (https://www.checkpointasia.net/what-just-happened-here-trump-declares-war-on-russia-over-twitter/) but kept his strike limited enough that Russians weren't at risk and the damage to the Syrian war effort (https://www.checkpointasia.net/russia-must-absorb-us-strikes-serve-its-payback-cold/) will be practically nil.

Also there are indications to believe the strikes were heavily "de-conflicted" with the Russians ... unlike in 2017 the Pentagon limited itself to sites where Russian troops wouldn't be present ... It isn't clear if any military base was hit, it seems not. ...

Russian air defenses were not involved in repelling the attack. ... that is as much as a confirmation that there was some kind of American-Russian understanding in place for the rules of the strike beforehand. ... Perhaps the Americans assured the Russians no military bases would be hit and they would be coming for only a few sites ...

Now that the (former?) reality TV star has saved face, arranged for some funerals and weeping mothers in a far-away land he is utterly ignorant of and deluded about, the Syrians are now free again to bury their dead and go back to the business of putting their nation back together -- until the next western media hysteria over a staged ... UK-funded shysters at Al-Qaeda Productions (https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-fraud-of-the-white-helmets/).


This comment sums it up: "US fired missiles into the equivalent of an empty parking lot, declare victory and go home with tail between legs. Russia won the fight without firing a single bullet exactly as Sun Tzu said 'The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.' Its stern warning scared away the US. The biggest loser ?----> Israel. It wants a prolonged real war to drive out the Russians. Trump got pushed but reacted half heartedly. So now they are back to square one."

[pao]

France (lol)

France says ‘large part’ of Syria’s chemical arsenal destroyed
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...nal-destroyed/

Send OPCW there as part of there investigation to disprove this bullshit. The presence of CW should be easy enough to prove or disprove.

[TheCount]

Was there a vote in Congress? Is the White House saying it is authorized under the War Power Act? Is there any explanation as how there was an eminent threat? This whole things smells of John Bolton!
Did it smell of Bolton the last time too?

[TheCount]

This is what it took to finally oust Paul Ryan
It also required the largest spending bill ever signed.

In order to get rid of Paul Ryan, you have to give him everything that he wants and say nice things about him. But you cross your fingers beneath the desk while you're doing it which is what makes it the secret 33D chess of getting rid of him.

[undergroundrr]

This is what it took to finally oust Paul Ryan ...

Somebody on my Facebook feed called it Operation Desert Stormy.

[TheCount]

Somebody on my Facebook feed called it Operation Desert Stormy.
Kahless and dannno worshipped their god emperor for his strategic genius the last time that he wagged the dog; it's only a matter of time before they twist their logic back around to that conclusion again.

[kahless]

Kahless and dannno worshipped their god emperor for his strategic genius the last time that he wagged the dog; it's only a matter of time before they twist their logic back around to that conclusion again.

I am more disappointed that none of my quotes made your signature than this blatant lie. :(

[AZJoe]

Report at Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/14/russia-claims-syria-air-defences-shot-down-majority-missiles):

Russian defenses were not involved. Washington fired between 103 and 105 missiles. Syrian air defenses shot down 71 of the missiles. Syrian air defenses consists of old Soviet era systems S-125, S-200, Buk and a short range pantsir.

Result is Russia may now supply Syria with S-300s and pantsirs.

[goldenequity]

IDJUTS CONFIRMED

First footage of destroyed Barzah Scientific Research Facility.
No protective clothing necessary visiting the site as no chemical weapons were manufactured, stored or used in the facility.
Destroyed today by US, UK and French cruise missile strikes.

video
https://twitter.com/AlSuraEnglish/status/985094026167599104

Nearby residential buildings were also hit leading to 4 killed Syrian civilians.

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Pentagon states Syrian fired 40 anti-air missiles in attempt to intercept US, UK and French cruise missiles.
Pentagon claims not a single cruise missile was downed. No clear answer between Russian and US figures.

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Russia states it may start to deploy S-300 and S-400 batteries across the region in response to the US-led trans-national attack on Syria.

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OPCW fact finding mission arrive in Damascus, Syria to start investigating alleged chemical weapons usage in #Douma. This comes after US-led strikes on Syria.

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Hassan Ridha
Protest also in Qamishli/Hasakah

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavA6lFUMAAqYpl.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavA6lSVAAEBxKj.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavA6lsVMAAPfFZ.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavA6suVwAETfQC.jpg:large

That's Kurdis btw...

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[kahless]

Report at Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/14/russia-claims-syria-air-defences-shot-down-majority-missiles):

Russian defenses were not involved. Washington fired between 103 and 120 missiles. Syrian air defenses shot down 71 of the missiles. Syrian air defenses consists of old Soviet era systems S-125, S-200, Buk and short range pantsir.


http://www.wbtv.com/story/37956060/the-latest-pentagon-russian-trolls-spreading-lies-on-syria

The Pentagon says none of the missiles filed by the U.S. and its allies was deflected by Syrian air defenses, rebutting claims by the Russian and Syrian governments.

Lt. Gen. Kenneth McKenzie, the director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the Pentagon, says: "None of our aircraft or missiles involved in this operation were successfully engaged by Syrian air defenses." He says there also is no indication that Russian air defense systems were employed early Saturday in Syria.

The Russian military had previously said Syria's Soviet-made air defense systems downed 71 out of 103 cruise missiles launched by the United States and its allies.

McKenzie says 105 weapons were launched against three targets in Syria.

Characterizing the strike as a success, McKenzie says, "As of right now we're not aware of any civilian casualties."

[osan]

You think he will fire on france and england too ?

Putin has been quoted as saying he will fire upon ANYONE doing to on Syria.

Britain and France would be the least of my worries. Russia would likely sink them without breaking a sweat. The US Navy... another story.

[acptulsa]

Kahless and dannno worshipped their god emperor for his strategic genius the last time that he wagged the dog; it's only a matter of time before they twist their logic back around to that conclusion again.

A matter of time?

dannno may need to wait until Molyneaux prepares his talking points for him. But rest assured the Bolton Brigade had their Lesser Evil Spin (TM) already prepared.


Maybe. The possibility exists that to appease the pro-war establishment, foreign policy going forward will be tough talk, limited strikes but then a pull out to appeal to his base. A balance between the two.

It could have been far worse with Iraq like occupations under an HRC Presidency...

So which is the Bolton Brigade quickest to do?

A. Defend Trump

B. Deny working for Bolton

C. Spam the board with posts defending indefensible military actions

[goldenequity]

BREAKING: Russia will hand over S-300 anti aircraft systems to the Assad regime. -Russian MoD

(They should give them a couple of nukes, too :D )

[osan]

Well, it's difficult to know he truth in all these matters, but so far as my old eyes can tell, Trump has fucked up this time and in a big way.

Question now is how will he proceed. If he is genuine, he will repair. Otherwise, he will maintain as he has chosen and will prove himself as I feared he likely would.

If he proves just another one of Themme, then we the people are lost and will find no salvation without arms. Anyone thinking this will be fixed with politics is fooling themselves. America is gone. Time is here.

I'm going to the Capitol, armed, to be counted.

What will the rest of you do?

[AZJoe]

France (lol)
France says ‘large part’ of Syria’s chemical arsenal destroyed
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...nal-destroyed/
Send OPCW there as part of there investigation to disprove this bull$#@!. The presence of CW should be easy enough to prove or disprove.

LOL. I guess 0/0 is a perfect score.

[TheCount]

A matter of time?

dannno may need to wait until Molyneaux prepares his talking points for him. But rest assured the Bolton Brigade had their Lesser Evil Spin (TM) already prepared.


No need to wait, dannno had the exact same talking point cued up:


Worst case scenario, we averted WWIII by 6-12 months by electing Trump instead of Hillary.

https://pics.me.me/so-ive-got-that-goin-for-me-whichis-nice-26007944.png

[Dr.3D]

If those folks on board those ships had any real moral courage beyond concern for their own careers, they would refuse illegal orders and take some time in the brig. But that would take real courage, real ethics, real morality -- something that is completely absent in these people. I don't give a damn what happens to those assholes. :mad:
In that case, I'll hold you just as responsible as those on that ship who had nothing to do with the ultimate pushing of the buttons that sent those missiles on their mission.

It's not like the Radiomen, Cooks, Boiler Technicians... etc. could have stopped those who pushed those buttons. You are just as guilty as they are, because you helped pay for those missiles.

[goldenequity]

Damascus countryside today in compulsory support of the animal tyrant

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavLO-XU0AAQJX1.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavLO-WU8AALr2G.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavLO-WVQAAVC4Q.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavLO-VVwAAOR7w.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavNkABVQAAVe1A.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavNkGWVAAEFF6K.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavNkgAUwAA0TiF.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavOZu9VAAAzr2D.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavOZyxUQAAU2lf.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavObQPU8AA9Ajt.jpg:large

[goldenequity]

Barzeh research center

All the people filmed in this morning's video have since died. (horribly).
It is recommended that you hold your breath b 4 watching:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwqwiMpSnLQ&feature=youtu.be

[Dr.3D]

Of course they should be to blame in that circumstance too. What, are you braindead? I know the answer to that. Why the fuck are you worried about the US being blamed anyways? Washington DC deserves to be tsar Bomba nuked for the shit we do
Yes, of course, how could I be so wrong? The United States did target those neighborhoods with their missiles and should be to blame for the civilian casualties.

I'm just so tired of seeing made up shit in the news about how somebody did something they didn't do and it being used as a pretext to further war.

People are so gullible, they will believe every made up production they see in the media. Look at that made up video that caused all of this.

[AZJoe]

The Pentagon says none of the missiles filed by the U.S. and its allies was deflected by Syrian air ...
Lt. Gen. Kenneth McKenzie, the director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the Pentagon, says: "None of our aircraft or missiles involved in this operation were successfully engaged by Syrian air defenses." defenses,http://www.wbtv.com/story/37956060/the-latest-pentagon-russian-trolls-spreading-lies-on-syria

Oh that's so cute. While Syria is probably exaggerating the number of hits, McKenzie's statement is demonstrably false.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1EOTIaKwLo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzhxOEmUHkU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRaKOhZzt6s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmz0rB1invA

[kahless]

Oh that's so cute. While Syria is probably exaggerating the number of hits, McKenzie's statement is demonstrably false.


Cute? The Russian/Syrian propaganda you are posting is demonstrably false. Someone had to add some balance to the posting of only Russian and Syrian propaganda.

btw - those videos do not show what you think they show.

[enhanced_deficit]

In principle we all should be opposed to bombing of foreign countries using shady/bogus excuses. While such flip flops may appear shocking from outside, to be devil's advocate, is it possible that we are not aware of tremendous pressures faced by US Presidents when they are designing foreign policy? Iran's close ally Syria poses threat to our closest allies in the world Israel & Saudi Arabia. Should tax payerd funded President just sit on his hands and leave our closest alies hanging amid such growing threats?

Granted current POTUS seems immune to such pressures and according to his loyal supporter Scaramucci was "not blackmailable" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snCX2X0D9V8), following chilling report was in news recently.



Publisher of the ‘Atlanta Jewish Times’ suggests Mossad should assassinate Obama (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?519224-CIA-Analyst-McGovern-Trump-is-Deathly-Afraid-of-the-Deep-State&p=6607354&viewfull=1#post6607354)

Adam Horowitz on January 20, 2012
John Cook reports at Gawker (http://gawker.com/5877892/): Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, a weekly newspaper serving Atlanta’s Jewish community, devoted his January 13, 2012 column to the thorny problem of the U.S. and Israel’s diverging views on the threat posed by Iran. Basically Israel has three options, he wrote: Strike Hezbollah and Hamas, strike Iran, or “order a hit” on Barack Obama (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/284979-ajt.html). Either way, problem solved!
Here’s how Adler laid out “option three” in his list of scenarios facing Israeli president Benjamin Netanyahu (the column, which was forwarded to us by a tipster, isn’t online, but you can read a copy here (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/284979-ajt.html)):


Three, give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place, and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.
Yes, you read “three” correctly. Order a hit on a president in order to preserve Israel’s existence. Think about it. If I have thought of this Tom Clancy-type scenario, don’t you think that this almost unfathomable idea has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circles?
Another way of putting “three” in perspective goes something like this: How far would you go to save a nation comprised of seven million lives…Jews, Christians and Arabs alike?
You have got to believe, like I do, that all options are on the table.

[nikcers]

BREAKING: Russia will hand over S-300 anti aircraft systems to the Assad regime. -Russian MoD

(They should give them a couple of nukes, too :D )
Russia is going to hand over a free lunch to the Assad regime? :rolleyes:

Related: (US, UK, France attack Syria) 984032798821568513

[kahless]

In principle I'm opposed to bombing of foreign countries using shady/bogus excuses. Sucj flip flops may appear shocking but to be devil's advocate, is it possible that we are not aware of tremendous pressures faced by Prsidents when they are designing foreign policy?

I agree and to demonstrate being in that position with the power to do something:

- Provided intelligence shows Syria disregarding chemical weapons treaties and using it to genocide civilians. This after a history of use of chemical weapons.

- Lack of action sends a signal to all other countries the US is paper tiger. Emboldens every tin pot dictator in the world including North Korea making foreign policy problematic going forward.

- Lack of action against chemical weapons facilities will enable Assad to continue it's horrific use against civilians despite he is winning the war.

- Enormous internal pressure from the deep state and Neocons to obstruct a pull out.

Trump destroys some vacant factories, some military infrastructure, yet leaves Assad in power to send a message on chemical weapons and our resolve. Later pulls out anyway.

[nikcers]

I agree and to demonstrate being in that position with the power to do something:

- Provided intelligence shows Syria disregarding chemical weapons treaties and using it to genocide civilians. This after a history of use of chemical weapons.

- Lack of action sends a signal to all other countries the US is paper tiger. Emboldens every tin pot dictator in the world including North Korea making foreign policy problematic going forward.

- Lack of action against chemical weapons facilities will enable Assad to continue it's horrific use against civilians despite he is winning the war.

- Enormous internal pressure from the deep state and Neocons to obstruct a pull out.

Trump destroys some vacant factories, some military infrastructure, yet leaves Assad in power to send a message on chemical weapons and our resolve. Later pulls out anyway.
Fake news.

[kahless]

Fake news.

We do not see the intelligence he is seeing. How do we know it is fake news? This is why there should have been a debate, Congressional authorization and the facts presented to the general public before taking action.

[nikcers]

We do not see the intelligence he is seeing. How do we know it is fake news? This is why there should have been a debate, Congressional authorization and the facts presented to the general public before taking action.
John Bolton wouldn't fake intelligence to start a war would he? JOHN FUCKING BOLTON IS PROVIDING INTELLIGENCE.

[enhanced_deficit]

I agree and to demonstrate being in that position with the power to do something:

- Provided intelligence shows Syria disregarding chemical weapons treaties and using it to genocide civilians. This after a history of use of chemical weapons.

- Lack of action sends a signal to all other countries the US is paper tiger. Emboldens every tin pot dictator in the world including North Korea making foreign policy problematic going forward.

- Lack of action against chemical weapons facilities will enable Assad to continue it's horrific use against civilians despite he is winning the war.

- Enormous internal pressure from the deep state and Neocons to obstruct a pull out.

Trump destroys some vacant factories, some military infrastructure, yet leaves Assad in power to send a message on chemical weapons and our resolve. Later pulls out anyway.


I'm rarely comfortable to be in complete agreement so I'll have to take contrarian view again even just to exercise an argument.

If Assad had used just drones/bombs/bullets to kill same Islamist Arab children in his country, would that have been acceptable for same people so pained by the plight of these arab children?
Technically all explosive materials used by drones/guns are also chemicals as confirmed by images of children burnt to death/maimed by drone attacks/MOAB drops.


Secondly, if main reason for carrying out these US tax payers funded bombings is to protect arab children from atrocities by "animal Assad", won't then our compassionate leaders be obliged to attack Isarel also being run by "non-Animal Netayahu" who just carried out atrocities against arab children, women also?




Israeli troops kill 32 Palestinians, injure hundreds as Gaza border protests resume (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?521114-Israeli-troops-kill-32-Palestinians-injure-hundreds-as-Gaza-border-protests-resume&)

After she is done with discussing Iran protests at UN, do you believe US tax payers funded Nikki Haley should discuss killing of 32 Palestinian protesters by US tax payers funded Israeli forces?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK9LWhsd3QI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK9LWhsd3QI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRdKk00Uj5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRdKk00Uj5Y

US blocks UN call for independent probe of Gaza protests
16h ago

US taxpayers paid more to Israeli military budget than Israelis (http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2012/09/17/us-taxpayers-paid-more-to-israeli-defense-budget-than-israelis/)



I'm no expert on hypocrisy, racism, dogmatic religious extremism but two and two don't seem to add up here.



Caution: Link below contains graphic images of child victims of chemical weapons during Israel's wars in Gaza, Lebanon that some may find unacceptable

Israel used chemical weapons against Lebanon and Gaza

29 June 2013

https://latestnewssyria.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/israel-gaza_phosphorus_bomb.jpg?w=487


https://latestnewssyria.wordpress.com/2013/06/29/israel-used-chemical-weapons-against-lebanon-and-gaza/


American Hypocrisy on Chemical Weapons. BOMB Syria but APPLAUD and Protect Israel (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?426212-American-Hypocrisy-on-Chemical-Weapons-BOMB-Syria-but-APPLAUD-and-Protect-Israel&)







Related

(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?521322-TOOB-Should-US-train-Syria-how-to-carry-out-a-sanitized-war&)Trump's wars 2018: Civilian casualties in Afghanistan at near-record level this year (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?521325-Trump-s-wars-2018-Civilian-casualties-in-Afghanistan-at-near-record-level-this-year&)
TOOB: Should US train Syria how to carry out a sanitized war?
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?521322-TOOB-Should-US-train-Syria-how-to-carry-out-a-sanitized-war&)
Trump Has Killed More Civilians with Illegal Drone Strikes in 9 Months Than Obama Did in 8 Years (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518978-Trump-Has-Killed-More-Civilians-with-Illegal-Drone-Strikes-in-9-Months-Than-Obama-Did-in-8-Yea&)

[kahless]

John Bolton wouldn't fake intelligence to start a war would he? JOHN FUCKING BOLTON IS PROVIDING INTELLIGENCE.

Not fake intelligence, but rather not vet intelligence that works in his favor.

[AuH20]

985151001601724416

[TheCount]

Trump destroys some vacant factories, some military infrastructure, yet leaves Assad in power to send a message on chemical weapons and our resolve. Later pulls out anyway.

There it is.


Actually he hit an airforce base, gave them prior warning, everybody including much of the equipment was evacuated and the airstrip was totally functional by noon the very next day.

It's not like a he hit a fucking school or something.

IF children died, that is unfortunate, but who the hell keeps children so close to a military airstrip?? If I were you I wouldn't waste your political capital on this.

I was against the attack, but I also see how the attack caused Trump to gain massive amounts of political capital both domestically and abroad, which he may be able to use to save millions of lives.

Or he could have not attacked, been called a Russian stooge and gotten slammed by the media, at which point they probably would have started impeachment proceedings and we can have someone like Hillary get us into the latest boondoggle.

[AZJoe]

I- Provided intelligence shows Syria disregarding chemical weapons treaties and using it to genocide civilians. This after a history of use of chemical weapons.
- Lack of action sends a signal to all other countries the US is paper tiger. Emboldens every tin pot dictator in the world including North Korea making foreign policy problematic going forward.
- Lack of action against chemical weapons facilities will enable Assad to continue it's horrific use against civilians despite he is winning the war.
- Enormous internal pressure from the deep state and Neocons to obstruct a pull out.
Trump destroys some vacant factories, some military infrastructure, yet leaves Assad in power to send a message on chemical weapons and our resolve. Later pulls out anyway.


"Provided intelligence"? What evidence? Washington admits it has none - still looking.

Lack of action? - Washington has been doing nothing but stupid action base don lies for decades now. - This latest idiocy just proves once again Washignton has no respect for international law, truth, evidence due process. Attacking a sovereign nation?

Even were the accusation true - which they aren't - Washington's blatant hypocrisy and pretend crocodile tears are just one layer of evil lies over another. Salafi Arabia is committing genocide on Yemen. If Washington concerned? No - it is providing the weapons, logistics and fuel to do it.

Its 2nd BFF Israel just used hundreds of unarmed local populace for target practice - shooting hundreds and killing over 30. - Is Washington launching missiles to "take action"? - No it white washes the crimes and continues funding them.

After funding and arming an imported terrorist army to stage a regime change coup in Libya that failed, it then obliterated the existing government with bombs and left the populace subject to Washington's imported army of armed terrorists, causing deaths of hundreds of thousands, displacement of millions, untold masses of refugees, and established a modern day openly run slave trade. Where is Washington's concern?

It then ran a weapons and terrorist rat line to Syria to stage its next terrorists coup.

It has repeatedly funded, supported, protected, armed terrorists in Libya, Syria and elsewhere.

And to give any credibility to Washington after it non-stop repeated modus operandi of lies upon lies upon lies for war is beyond foolish. It is willful blindness and out right evil.

The repeat false flag gas attack accusations alone are now like an overused bad Onion farce. Washington wanted to immediately attack Assad for "gas attack": in 2013. Turns out evidence showed it was Washington's funded "moderate" terrorist rebels that staged it using chemical weapons smuggled in via Turkey. Last year Washington bombed Syria on accusation of a gas attack which even today Washington admits it has no evidence to blame Assad.
Now again this bombing. IF they were so confident of they allegation why rush to act before any investigation or evidence. "We don't need no stinkin evidence". This from the government that is perpetually wrong and never ending lies.

[spudea]

985151001601724416

so the attack is even helping to solidify and grow support for Assad? The civil war will end and Syria will be reunified within 6 months. Mission Accomplished indeed.

[AuH20]

These heinous acts will continue the anguish of the Syrian Civil War. The rebels will be emboldened. Let's be frank. Trump gets no benefit of the doubt for allegedly pulling his punches.

[AuH20]

Joel Skousen said that he doubts that there are many white hats in the military or intelligence agencies. Most above middle management are devoted yes men, which is why they are promoted upward. So Q was a blatant liar as expected.

[RonZeplin]

This comment sums it up: "US fired missiles into the equivalent of an empty parking lot, declare victory and go home with tail between legs. Russia won the fight without firing a single bullet exactly as Sun Tzu said 'The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.' Its stern warning scared away the US. The biggest loser ?----> Israel. It wants a prolonged real war to drive out the Russians. Trump got pushed but reacted half heartedly. So now they are back to square one."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzQ2oOx4FZU

[goldenequity]

Max Abrahms
The French release their “proof” Assad authorized chemical attacks against Douma.
It’s based on pictures and videos and activist testimony, the report says.
(More and more embarrassment for the globalist scum)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavroZxX4AASLs3.jpg:small

[AuH20]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13081/DasJ2XdVMAAHmAm-514444.JPG

[nobody's_hero]

We do not see the intelligence he is seeing. How do we know it is fake news? This is why there should have been a debate, Congressional authorization and the facts presented to the general public before taking action.

Logically it makes no sense. Why would Assad use chemical weapons just after the US announced it was pulling back? Wasn't the use of chemical weapons what drew the attention of the US in the first place? So, the US was gonna leave Syria and let Assad and the Russians deal with rebels (and the terrorists mixed in with them), and they expect us to believe that Assad ruined this turning point in his bid to keep power, by dropping chemical weapons and starting all over again? I'm sorry but I do not believe that Assad is that stupid. We might agree that he is no angel, but he is not that stupid.

It would seem more likely that ISIS or some other terrorist group paid some Syrian general off to get their hands on a bomb (probably using funds that our government supplied them), then detonated it to keep the US involved because they know that the USA will help them against the Syrian regime.

When are we gonna learn that when it comes to Middle Eastern politics, that the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy?

[Raginfridus]

Actually, it makes more sense there defectors in Assad's leadership, who will sellout just to regime change into a higher office. I mean Assad's support can't be universal.

[goldenequity]

Brasco_Aad
The British are so afraid of Russian s-400, that their Tornado's fired all their cruise missiles just a few miles outside Cypriot airspace.

source: The Guardian

======

NO SYRIAN SERVICEMEN KILLED OR INJURED IN AIRSTRIKES DELIVERED ON SYRIA ON SATURDAY MORNING - MILITARY-DIPLOMATIC SOURCE

=====

Knock down aftermath of another smart missile?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Davs00cX4AANriZ.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Davs00hWsAEtaw5.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Davs00CW0AAd-I9.jpg:large

(update: tail end of a Syrian SA-6 SAM)

►even SOHR sez 65 were knocked down.
http://www.syriahr.com/en/?p=89324

"The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights managed to monitor interception by the regime forces
to tens of missiles which targeted their positions and military bases in the Syrian territory,
where several intersected sources confirmed to the Syrian Observatory,
that the number missiles that were downed, exceeded 65 missiles, of the total number of missiles fired by the Trio Coalition,
while the air and rocket strikes, caused great material damage, while no information about casualties was reported yet.

so
if the Pentagon claims 'all missiles hit their targets'..
and their target was the ground...
then yes
all missiles hit their target. :)

[nobody's_hero]

Actually, it makes more sense there defectors in Assad's leadership, who will sellout just to regime change into a higher office. I mean Assad's support can't be universal.

Oh, I'm sure Assad can't keep tabs on everyone.

It's not like Trump hasn't been dealing with his own share of bureaucratic opposition. Maybe Syria has their own version of "Comey" trying to make Assad look bad. It's plausible.

[goldenequity]

Pearson Sharp: "So far from everyone I've talked to, people and officials, there's no evidence of any chemical attack.
I don't know why Trump, the administration thought they needed to attack before the investigation got underway"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFsFmgBiBMs

Journalist: "Why did US launch last night & not wait till after OPCW investigation?"
Pentagon spokesperson: "Umm,umm, Assad blocked OPCW from going to Duma."
lie

[openfire]

Logically it makes no sense.


None whatsoever.

Watch as the former commander of British Armed Forces in Iraq attempts to make this very argument before being cut off by Sky News, just hours before the airstrikes commenced:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPujDD5vXDw

^ They didn't even bother to use a 'technical difficulty' a la CNN. And look at the pure evil oozing from that woman's face at the end... :eek:

[AuH20]

985221855454756864

[enhanced_deficit]

On the flip side, if "animal Assad" of Syria is targeting families of Isarel/Saudi supported Jihadis, won't that be violation of UN War crimes laws? Most families have children too.



Relational

http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/trump-worship-quote-kill-terrorist-families-civilians.png

[kahless]

Logically it makes no sense. Why would Assad use chemical weapons just after the US announced it was pulling back? Wasn't the use of chemical weapons what drew the attention of the US in the first place? So, the US was gonna leave Syria and let Assad and the Russians deal with rebels (and the terrorists mixed in with them), and they expect us to believe that Assad ruined this turning point in his bid to keep power, by dropping chemical weapons and starting all over again? I'm sorry but I do not believe that Assad is that stupid. We might agree that he is no angel, but he is not that stupid.

It would seem more likely that ISIS or some other terrorist group paid some Syrian general off to get their hands on a bomb (probably using funds that our government supplied them), then detonated it to keep the US involved because they know that the USA will help them against the Syrian regime.

When are we gonna learn that when it comes to Middle Eastern politics, that the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy?

That seemed to be the most logical belief from the start. It just did not make sense but then again if you think more about it there has been a history of world leaders making the mistake of believing the US is a paper tiger and that they would not act against violation of treaties, agreements or upon committing genocide. In this case you also have a history of President saying he would pull out of Syria, a cold war history that has never been taken this far, Trump's base and polls showing no one wanted this. With that maybe Russia and Assad believed the US would not act and worst case believed it would be a test of US resolve or an act of defiance.

We did not really know the truth either way in advance and are told now we should trust classified intelligence based on an agencies with a poor track record. This is exactly why there should have been a debate in Congress so we could contact our representatives in advance for or against Congressional authorization based on what should have been presented.

[openfire]

This is exactly why there should have been a debate in Congress so we could contact our representatives in advance for or against Congressional authorization based on what should have been presented.

Donald Trump Ordered Syria Strike Based on a Secret Legal Justification Even Congress Can’t See:

https://theintercept.com/2018/04/14/donald-trump-ordered-syria-strike-based-on-a-secret-legal-justification-even-congress-cant-see/

[Origanalist]

"Provided intelligence"? What evidence? Washington admits it has none - still looking.

Lack of action? - Washington has been doing nothing but stupid action base don lies for decades now. - This latest idiocy just proves once again Washignton has no respect for international law, truth, evidence due process. Attacking a sovereign nation?

Even were the accusation true - which they aren't - Washington's blatant hypocrisy and pretend crocodile tears are just one layer of evil lies over another. Salafi Arabia is committing genocide on Yemen. If Washington concerned? No - it is providing the weapons, logistics and fuel to do it.

Its 2nd BFF Israel just used hundreds of unarmed local populace for target practice - shooting hundreds and killing over 30. - Is Washington launching missiles to "take action"? - No it white washes the crimes and continues funding them.

After funding and arming an imported terrorist army to stage a regime change coup in Libya that failed, it then obliterated the existing government with bombs and left the populace subject to Washington's imported army of armed terrorists, causing deaths of hundreds of thousands, displacement of millions, untold masses of refugees, and established a modern day openly run slave trade. Where is Washington's concern?

It then ran a weapons and terrorist rat line to Syria to stage its next terrorists coup.

It has repeatedly funded, supported, protected, armed terrorists in Libya, Syria and elsewhere.

And to give any credibility to Washington after it non-stop repeated modus operandi of lies upon lies upon lies for war is beyond foolish. It is willful blindness and out right evil.

The repeat false flag gas attack accusations alone are now like an overused bad Onion farce. Washington wanted to immediately attack Assad for "gas attack": in 2013. Turns out evidence showed it was Washington's funded "moderate" terrorist rebels that staged it using chemical weapons smuggled in via Turkey. Last year Washington bombed Syria on accusation of a gas attack which even today Washington admits it has no evidence to blame Assad.
Now again this bombing. IF they were so confident of they allegation why rush to act before any investigation or evidence. "We don't need no stinkin evidence". This from the government that is perpetually wrong and never ending lies.

Trump could line drug dealers up in the street and have them executed and there would still be the Trump crowd here giving him cover.

[dannno]

It also required the largest spending bill ever signed.

In order to get rid of Paul Ryan, you have to give him everything that he wants and say nice things about him. But you cross your fingers beneath the desk while you're doing it which is what makes it the secret 33D chess of getting rid of him.

The 33D chess was pretending to be on his side and letting him crash and burn on his own, as opposed to being an oppositional force to Paul Ryan and making him look like a hero.

[EBounding]

Trump could line drug dealers up in the street and have them executed and there would still be the Trump crowd here giving him cover.

Well yeah, that would be because of the Mind Control and gun to Barron's head.

[Origanalist]

so the attack is even helping to solidify and grow support for Assad? The civil war will end and Syria will be reunified within 6 months. Mission Accomplished indeed.

That's the stupidest thing I've seen here all year congratulations. "Objectivity", snort.

[Mordan]

Well, it's difficult to know he truth in all these matters, but so far as my old eyes can tell, Trump has $#@!ed up this time and in a big way.

Question now is how will he proceed. If he is genuine, he will repair. Otherwise, he will maintain as he has chosen and will prove himself as I feared he likely would.

If he proves just another one of Themme, then we the people are lost and will find no salvation without arms. Anyone thinking this will be fixed with politics is fooling themselves. America is gone. Time is here.

I'm going to the Capitol, armed, to be counted.

What will the rest of you do?

i don't think he fucked up. He is playing a fine line with the deep state trying to kill/destroy his family and his base.

I saw his speech. It was OK. It made me smile.

Trump's instinct is to survive. He will not try to fulfill the libertarian agenda. Hillary should be in jail. But look at Comey.

[enhanced_deficit]

Although critics had publicized various scandals recently that could undermine her credibility (binomo prank (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517971-Pranking-Neocon-Nikki&p=6567541&viewfull=1#post6567541) scandal, "disgusting rumor (https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/26/politics/nikki-haley-donald-trump-affair-denial/index.html)" scandal etc), GOP base rockstar & widely respected neoconservative Nikki Haley is not backing down and is still raising her voice in defense of our freedoms, our values and above all sanctity of innocent life:



Nikki Haley warns that U.S. forces ‘locked and loaded’ if Syria stages another chemical attack


https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_1484w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/14/National-Security/Images/AFP_1412EY-1050.jpg?uuid=cP174D_8EeiXT6rNl2mM7w
U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley speaks during U.N. Security Council meeting in New York, April 14. (Hector Retamal/AFP/Getty Images)

By Carol Morello, Anne Gearan and Missy Ryan April 14
Western leaders warned Syria on Saturday that they could launch further missile strikes if chemical weapons are used again, while the pre-dawn attacks were denounced by Damascus and its backers as illegal actions that would carry repercussions.
U.S. forces were “locked and loaded” to strike again if Syria unleashed another chemical assault, said Nikki Haley, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, at an emergency Security Council meeting called by Russia.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...9f0_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/after-syria-attack-us-and-russia-tensions-rise-but-military-confrontation-fears-ease/2018/04/14/d7a48d32-3fdb-11e8-a7d1-e4efec6389f0_story.html)

[kahless]

I'm rarely comfortable to be in complete agreement so I'll have to take contrarian view again even just to exercise an argument.

More problematic to do here these days but I do the same just to hear all sides of the equation.



If Assad had used just drones/bombs/bullets to kill same Islamist Arab children in his country, would that have been acceptable for same people so pained by the plight of these arab children?
Technically all explosive materials used by drones/guns are also chemicals as confirmed by images of children burnt to death/maimed by drone attacks/MOAB drops.

I was thinking that very thing as I wrote the quote you replied to. IDK, perhaps greater mass casualties and extended suffering with gas and.or used as propaganda tool to magnify and/or call attention to genocide?



Secondly, if main reason for carrying out these US tax payers funded bombings is to protect arab children from atrocities by "animal Assad", won't then our compassionate leaders be obliged to attack Isarel also being run by "non-Animal Netayahu" who just carried out atrocities against arab children, women also?

That is a stretch to compare the magnitude of civilian casualties in Syria. The first article you posted the youths opened fire, rolled burning tires and fire bombs toward troops across the border. Have not had time to look at all the details yet but if someone is shooting at you, well then...

[spudea]

That's the stupidest thing I've seen here all year congratulations. "Objectivity", snort.

985131315518427137

[kahless]

Trump could line drug dealers up in the street and have them executed and there would still be the Trump crowd here giving him cover.

Did the drug dealers knowingly sell poisoned Heroin that resulted in the deaths of some of their customers and/or were they giving drugs to little kids? I am against the death penalty but would not shed a tear for the dealers. If that is giving Trump cover then I am fine with that.

[Origanalist]

Did the drug dealers knowingly sell poisoned Heroin that resulted in the deaths of some of their customers and/or were they giving drugs to little kids? I am against the death penalty but would not shed a tear for the dealers. If that is giving Trump cover then I am fine with that.

Well let's line up the moonshiners too because that's some pretty high test shit and some people could die. I swear, this place is over run with fucking statists and Trumphumpers.

[specsaregood]

I'm a bit confused. Did the US actually do any bombing/shooting? Or was it all done by our EU lapdogs?

[pcosmar]

I'm a bit confused. Did the US actually do any bombing/shooting? Or was it all done by our EU lapdogs?

Yes,, as I understand the US was lead,, in this theatrical display..

and everyone is claiming victory. The non existent Chemical weapons have been destroyed. and the war will continue till the next Saudi Gas attack.

[pcosmar]

Did the drug dealers knowingly sell poisoned Heroin that resulted in the deaths of some of their customers and/or were they giving drugs to little kids? I am against the death penalty but would not shed a tear for the dealers. If that is giving Trump cover then I am fine with that.

Did the bartenders knowingly sell poisoned alcohol to customers?

or did the US Government Poison it's own people?

[nikcers]

Did the bartenders knowingly sell poisoned alcohol to customers?

or did the US Government Poison it's own people?
There is no other pill to take
So swallow the one
That made you ill…

[goldenequity]

DOD map

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dav8meyX4AAUqTy.jpg:small

Pentagon says 105 total weapons used against 3 targets in Syria:
- 76 missiles employed against first target.(Barzeh Research & Development center,Damascus)
- 22 missiles employed against second target.(Shinshar,Homs CS )
- 7 missiles employed against third target.(Homs CS)


76 missiles used to attack Barzah "research center".
57 Tlams, WDU-36B 340kg payload, 19 JASSMs WDU-42B 450kg payload. Which is total 28 TONNES payload against 3 buildings.
And 15% of total annual production of Tlams, which is around 400.
4 missiles would be enough for any lab.
Who the hell planned this op, if that statement is true!?
(76 so they could try and 'claim' 'ALL CHEMS VAPORIZED'? Nerve chems don't work that way. fail. )



Pentagon says "All missiles hit their intended targets."
►Do you even REALIZE what this place would look like if it got HIT w/ anywhere CLOSE to 76 missiles?????
There would be no rubble or large parts of the structure still standing if 30 tonnes of tnt really had hit it.Just dust left.
76 missiles carrying 60,000 pounds total payload. 76 craters 10m in diameter.
Not TNT. PBXN-107, which is 86% RDX, 40% more powerful.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DawZUw5VQAAPpix.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DawZVyBU0AESKak.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DawZYRiVwAEIk9c.jpg




long video at Barzeh Research & Development center this morning


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwrETbBQ1DM


985196769356210177
video
https://twitter.com/miladvisor/status/985196769356210177



in other news...

Independent Swiss Lab Says 'BZ Toxin' Used In Skripal Poisoning; US/UK-Produced, Not Russian (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?520014-Former-Russian-Spy-In-Critical-Condition-After-Exposure-To-quot-Unknown-Substance-quot&p=6617029&viewfull=1#post6617029)

[kahless]

Well let's line up the moonshiners too because that's some pretty high test shit and some people could die. I swear, this place is over run with fucking statists and Trumphumpers.

Your belief of giving cover to drug dealers selling poisoned Heroin that results in their customers deaths as well as selling to little kids is immoral. In a Voluntaryist society these people would still be considered immoral scumbags and to be violating the non-aggression principle for knowingly doing so. Pointing that out does not make one a statist.

[nikcers]

You belief of giving cover to drug dealers selling poisoned Heroin that results in their customers deaths as well as selling to little kids is immoral. In a Voluntaryist society these people would still be considered immoral scumbags and to be violating the non-aggression principle for knowingly doing so. Pointing that out does not make one a statist.
My belief is that the drug war is sponsored by the government and therefore can't be fixed by its sponsor. If the government actually did fix the problem they would go home and be out of a job.

[TheCount]

You belief of giving cover to drug dealers selling poisoned Heroin that results in their customers deaths as well as selling to little kids is immoral. In a Voluntaryist society these people would still be considered immoral scumbags and to be violating the non-aggression principle for knowingly doing so. Pointing that out does not make one a statist.
What about a person who spent more than a year falsely representing an authoritarian politician in order to promote them to liberty-minded people?

Is that person an immoral scumbag?

[nikcers]

What about a person who spent more than a year falsely representing an authoritarian politician in order to promote them to liberty-minded people?

Is that person an immoral scumbag?
Is stealing with words any different than stealing with your hands?

[TheCount]

Is stealing with words any different than stealing with your hands?
Were they words though? They could have been not even words. We might need an expert to tell us what are and are not words.

[navy-vet]

Yes, of course, how could I be so wrong? The United States did target those neighborhoods with their missiles and should be to blame for the civilian casualties.

I'm just so tired of seeing made up $#@! in the news about how somebody did something they didn't do and it being used as a pretext to further war.

People are so gullible, they will believe every made up production they see in the media. Look at that made up video that caused all of this.
so true....

[goldenequity]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavaWbsX4AAZtfs.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavaWb-XkAA8WP6.jpg

SamiRamadani1
6h6 hours ago

Unbelievable! TheTimes UK’s most authentic voice of the establishment devoted front page, 2-page splash & an editorial
to distort the politics & aims of small group of academics, including myself, who want to do independent research into coverage of Syria. Must be truly scared.

[kahless]

My belief is that the drug war is sponsored by the government and therefore can't be fixed by its sponsor. If the government actually did fix the problem they would go home and be out of a job.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavaWbsX4AAZtfs.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavaWb-XkAA8WP6.jpg

Does the article list their RPF account handles?

[nikcers]

Does the article list their RPF account handles?
Would you believe that it is real news if it did?

[osan]

i don't think he fucked up.

I typed too soon. I must agree with you - he decidedly did not err in this case, but Putin did.

I discussed this with little bro. Apparently all of the ordnance detonated at once. This was a message to China: "Behold what we can do. Tread ye with utmost care."

In law there are the notions of general and specific deterrents. This action served both roles. Specifically, the destruction of Syria's ability to produce, test, and field chemical and other weapons of similar class.

Also, this action was Obama's doing, something of which I was unaware. Trump was bound by an agreement Obama made with the UN, pledging that the USA would respond it this or that manner where chemical weapons have been used. This was a situation where the world looks to see whether America has the oats to do as it pledged, or is just a paper tiger.

I jumped to a premature conclusion. My error.

[kahless]

What about a person who spent more than a year falsely representing an authoritarian politician in order to promote them to liberty-minded people?

Is that person an immoral scumbag?

You mean the small group of persons that actively promoted a rabid abortionist, statist and Neocon scum Hillary as a better option and disparaged the reputations of anyone that disagreed with that view?

This rather than point out the failures of the two party system and take an objective view of the candidates flaws, their statist policies, their less statist policies and possible alternative liberty solutions? Rather than directly attacking people seeking a little bit of liberty in this life time no matter how small within the system that we are subjected to?

Those immoral scumbags?

[osan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DavaWbsX4AAZtfs.jpg

I'm a Kate AND a Meghan!

I can do that if I want, right? Where do I get one of those hats... and the parasol... and the dress... bet her shoes are knockouts.

[nikcers]

You mean the small group of persons that actively promoted a rabid abortionist, statist and Neocon scum Hillary as a better option and disparaged the reputations of anyone that disagreed with that view?

This rather than point out the failures of the two party system and take an objective view of the candidates flaws, their statist policies, their less statist policies and possible alternative liberty solutions? Rather than directly attacking people seeking a little bit of liberty in this life time no matter how small within the system that we are subjected to?

Those immoral scumbags?
Come on how can you be against abortion, it serves as a form of natural selection for psychopaths who could kill their own kids, haven't you ever seen someone and thought to yourself god I hope he/she doesn't have kids? You got to be kidding me if you are going to frame the argument that if I am against Trump I am somehow for Clinton or abortion.

[nikcers]

(They should give them a couple of nukes, too :D )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUue4dBZwI8

[TheCount]

You mean the small group of persons that actively promoted a rabid abortionist, statist and Neocon scum Hillary as a better option and disparaged the reputations of anyone that disagreed with that view?

Wow, that must have been a really, really small group. And an active one, too. With that sort of campaign, you must have quotes of all of this Hillary support...

[TheCount]

I discussed this with little bro. Apparently all of the ordnance detonated at once. This was a message to China: "Behold what we can do. Tread ye with utmost care."That is the same excuse that was used for the last attack as well.

[Swordsmyth]

ABC News obtained a copy of the document, sent to at least one senator, on the evidence that led up to the strikes.
The document outlines six reasons for the attacks launched early Saturday in Syria.
The first point outlines the U.S.'s evidence of a chemical attack on Douma April 7, "killing dozens and severely injuring hundreds of civilians." The document points to a large number of "reliable" photos and videos of victims suffering from the symptoms of a chemical attack. The intelligence points specifically to symptoms of a chlorine and sarin attack on April 7.


The document delivered to congressmen cites "credible medical personnel ... including the World Health Organization (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/lifestyle/health/world-health-organization.htm)" treating the effects of a sarin gas attack.
Other evidence cited in the document includes eyewitness accounts of an Mi-8 helicopter launched from Dumayr airfield circling Douma and photos of barrel bombs similar to those previously used by the Syrian government.

The document concludes with a demand for the Syrian regime to reveal its chemical weapons program (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/issues/nuclear-program.htm) to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/world/organisation-for-the-prohibition-of-chemical-weapons.htm) (OPCW (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/world/chemical-weapons-convention.htm)) and destroy its remaining stockpiles of chemical weapons -- something the regime claims it already did in 2013 following a U.N. Security Council resolution.

More at: http://abcnews.go.com/International/white-house-outlines-evidence-support-strike-syria-memo/story?id=54463178

[nikcers]

That is the same excuse that was used for the last attack as well.
no last time is was Mcmasters fault

[Swordsmyth]

“The Dance”
What just happened this morning in Syria was nothing more than a carefully “choreographed” dance between the US and Russia that allowed both rivals to “save face” and avoid further escalating the situation.
The US launched over 100 cruise missiles at Syria together with its French and British allies, although the Russian Ministry of Defense reported that 71 of them were intercepted by the targeted country’s Soviet-era air-defense systems.


“Superficial” vs. “Substantial”
As predicted, the strike was mostly “superficial” and lacked the “substance” needed to escalate tensions further between the West and Russia over their Syrian proxy war, but so too was the response somewhat “superficial” as well.
It’s difficult to imagine how such decades-old defense systems downed so many state-of-the-art cruise missiles, especially when considering that Iraq’s similar systems were largely ineffective during the 2003 “shock and awe” campaign against comparatively more dated munitions.
It was widely reported in the run-up to this strike that the US intended to target certain facilities in Syria, and this “leak” was deliberately planned in order to “telegraph” the locations to Russia and its on-the-ground partners.
In addition, it has also been confirmed that the US and Russia were communicating this entire time through the so-called “deconfliction channel, so it’s very possible that Washington warned Moscow in advance of the exact targets that it planned to hit and maybe even when.
This would explain why Syria’s Soviet-era air-defense systems were surprisingly more effective against modern-day cruise missiles than Iraq’s exact same ones were 15 years earlier against much more dated weapons at the time.


“Military Statecraft”
Not only that, but this “choreographed” exercise of “military statecraft” allowed both Great Powers to “save face”, with the US being able to prove that it delivered on its threats while Russia can say that its Soviet-era systems indirectly defended Syria.
None of this is untrue either, and each party can therefore claim “victory” while defending themselves from their rival’s accusations that they actually suffered a crushing “soft power defeat” by dismissing such claims as nothing more than “propaganda”, a defense that’s very convincing to their respective publics given the New Cold War tensions and resultant distrust between both sides.
Taking this “show” of “military statecraft” even further, Russia has now suggested that it might sell S-300 missiles to Syria, which on the surface might sound like a “game-changing” development but upon further examination it can be argued that this is just another “soft power” move.
After all, if Syria’s Soviet-era air defenses were already so effective, then Damascus would have little need for anything more advanced, nor would many other countries in the world who have relatively newer defense systems.
The S-300 announcement should therefore be taken very cautiously since it implies that this morning’s events were just a “show” and that Syria’s old defense weapons are in practice pretty ineffective unless the military knows in advance what the targets will be (as is now proven) and potentially (as is speculated) when they’ll be hit.


Preserving The “Balance Of Power” With “Israel”
This sobering realization nevertheless is the reason why so many countries are still interested in Russia’s S-400 air-defense systems precisely because they promise to be exponentially more effective than their decades-older Soviet counterparts.
That said, Russia is reluctant to sell these units to Syria because it doesn’t want to upset the “balance of power” between the Arab Republic and Moscow’s “Israeli” ally, as that would undermine the 21st-century “balancing” act that forms the basis of Russia’s grand strategy by providing much too effective of a deterrent to any future “Israeli” strikes.
In redirecting the Syrian public’s attention away from this “politically inconvenient” — and arguably from Damascus’ perspective, “unpopular” — fact, it can be expected that Russia will resort to hard-hitting but eloquent rhetoric at the UN in denouncing the US’ naked and illegal aggression against a sovereign state that’s doing its utmost to fight terrorism on humanity’s behalf, though these moving words will be ineffective in getting the globalist body to do anything of tangible significance because of the certainty that the US will veto any Security Council resolution.


The Coming “Suggestions” For "Compromise”
Regardless of the public’s personal feelings on this matter, Russia will not sacrifice its servicemen just for the sake of keeping Iran & Hezbollah in Syria when its military mandate has always strictly been to carry out anti-terrorist missions and never to protect either of those two or the Syrian Arab Army (SAA).
Now that President Putin declared on several occasions that Daesh has been militarily defeated, Russia sees no reason to continue committing its military to Syria on the same scale as before, hence the large-scale withdrawal in December of last year and Moscow’s dedicated focus on advancing a so-called “political solution” to the conflict.
To that end, while the US and its allies’ strikes were totally uncoordinated with Russia despite Moscow being made indirectly (and possibly directly via the “deconfliction channel”) aware of where these missiles would hit and speculatively even when, there’s a chance that this morning’s events might actually advance Russia’s peacemaking objectives if they serve to pressure Damascus into “compromising” on its hitherto “obstinate” position in refusing to seriously countenance any of the proposals set forth in the Russian-written “draft constitution” that was first unveiled 18 months ago.
From the author’s personal interpretation of Russia’s developing attitude towards the peace process, Damascus’ “dilly dallying” risks unraveling the elaborating “balancing” act that Moscow is attempting as it seeks to “manage” the Mideast in the wake of the “vacuum” that was left by the US’ “Pivot to Asia”, so it may cynically hope that America’s aggression backfires on it by inadvertently stimulating the Russian-led peace process.
Even so, a “solution” would have to inevitably be found in removing the “trigger” for external aggression against Syria, which has always been predicated on “containing” Iran, but with the SAA and its Iranian & Hezbollah allies unable to conventionally (key word) counter and ultimately put a stop to US-led attacks while Russia & Turkey sit on the sidelines and refuse to get dragged into this dimension of the conflict, Moscow will more than likely “suggest” behind closed doors that Damascus “compromise” on this issue as well unless it “wants” the war to indefinitely drag on.

More at: https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-syrian-show-must-go-on-us-led-strikes-against-syria-were-a-carefully-choreographed-dance-between-us-and-russia/5636149

[Origanalist]

You belief of giving cover to drug dealers selling poisoned Heroin that results in their customers deaths as well as selling to little kids is immoral. In a Voluntaryist society these people would still be considered immoral scumbags and to be violating the non-aggression principle for knowingly doing so. Pointing that out does not make one a statist.

There's a big difference between pointing out, or even charging them with the crime and lining them up in the street and shooting them. Face it, you have a knee jerk reaction to defend Trump no matter what the circumstances.

[Origanalist]

Did the drug dealers knowingly sell poisoned Heroin that resulted in the deaths of some of their customers and/or were they giving drugs to little kids? I am against the death penalty but would not shed a tear for the dealers. If that is giving Trump cover then I am fine with that.

That's the kind of thing that you get from prohibition, bad people doing bad things. It's not rocket science, and lining them up in the street and shooting them is the ultimate authoritarian solution. And it still won't stop them. For as long as you've been here you really haven't learned much.

[kahless]

Face it, you have a knee jerk reaction to defend Trump no matter what the circumstances

A more accurate reply would have been, "I have to face it, I have a knee jerk reaction to believe people cover for Trump here no matter what the circumstances."

No one here covers for Trump rather it is more like trying to figure out which words out of his mouth are the truth, holding him true to policy and policy aligned with the beliefs here.

[kahless]

That's the kind of thing that you get from prohibition, bad people doing bad things. It's not rocket science, and lining them up in the street and shooting them is the ultimate authoritarian solution. And it still won't stop them. For as long as you've been here you really haven't learned much.

I was pretty clear on my beliefs that I am against that and proves you see things that are not in my posts.


I am against the death penalty but would not shed a tear for the dealers. If that is giving Trump cover then I am fine with that.

[TheCount]

no last time is was Mcmasters fault
Or perhaps Ivanka's.

[nobody's_hero]

We did not really know the truth either way in advance and are told now we should trust classified intelligence based on an agencies with a poor track record. This is exactly why there should have been a debate in Congress so we could contact our representatives in advance for or against Congressional authorization based on what should have been presented.

Well, they aren't likely to ever let that happen again. Congress intervened in the last administration's planned attack on Syria. Any strike beyond this point is not only going to avoid congressional approval, but it will be done without any warning at all, just so there are no chances to stop it.

[AuH20]

985171468525940737

[GunnyFreedom]

I expect some of the surface to air missiles will miss their targets and land in civilian neighborhoods.

Of course the U.S. will be blamed for the damage to those neighborhoods.

That's a very good point. Mind you if the SAMs were made right they should not have detonated on the surface after exhausting their fuel and falling ballistically. Of course they are less likely to have collateral damage mitigation tech than we are.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Dr.3D again.

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

Mouaz Moustafa was paraded around the, ever so civiLIEzed, NPR - NeoCon Puppet Radio 4/14/18

Mccain and company all buddy-buddy with "progressives"

Congrats you pieces of shit !

[kahless]

Come on how can you be against abortion, it serves as a form of natural selection for psychopaths who could kill their own kids, haven't you ever seen someone and thought to yourself god I hope he/she doesn't have kids? You got to be kidding me if you are going to frame the argument that if I am against Trump I am somehow for Clinton or abortion.

You and some here gave Hillary policies a free pass and her supporters a free pass. Then instead of attacking Trump on policies you went after people simply agreeing with specific Trump policies including polices that Rand/Ron campaigned on such as health care competition across state lines. The bias in favor of Hillary was obvious and what sounds like the Nazi like National Socialism you subscribe to from your post above.

[Raginfridus]

985171468525940737Sounds like Russia's selling out or they think Russia will sellout.

[Firestarter]

Former Syrian Ambassador Peter Ford gives his ideas on the attack of Syria, for some reason the video keeps getting deleted by Youtube…

He tells that it is to support Trump and that the whole attack was orchestrated together with Russia.
He tells that they should have waited for the OPCW; they probably bombed Syria because they were afraid that no chemical weapons were found.
There is no evidence besides the social media (that is no evidence).

The interviewer replies that Ford supports Assad using chemical weapons; Ford calls this “twisted” logic.

https://videos2.sendvid.com/e5/80/7x8nea5p.mp4

[nikcers]

You and some here gave Hillary, her policies a free pass and her supporters a free pass. Then instead of attacking Trump on policies you went after people simply agreeing with specific Trump policies including polices that Rand/Ron campaigned on such as health care competition across state lines. The bias in favor of Hillary was obvious and what sounds like the Nazi like National Socialism you subscribe to from your post above.
You mean the contradictory statement I made that was obviously sarcasm? This is precisely the reason why I said Trump was the worst, Trump could literally start world war 3 and would still have people like you defending him. We will never beat the establishment with people like you and Trump holding their water.

[kahless]

You mean the contradictory statement I made that was obviously sarcasm? This is precisely the reason why I said Trump was the worst, Trump could literally start world war 3 and would still have people like you defending him. We will never beat the establishment with people like you and Trump holding their water.

I defend Trump or a candidate when they pass legislation I support and knock them when they do not. You however support a party or candidate 100% regardless whether their opposition proposes legislation that provides greater liberty. The news media and their respective political think tanks has trained people like you well in that respect.

[nikcers]

I defend Trump or a candidate when they pass legislation I support and knock them when they do not. You however support a party or candidate 100% regardless whether their opposition proposes legislation that provides greater liberty. The news media and their respective political think tanks has trained people like you well in that respect.
I support Rand Paul because the neocons spent millions of dollars on attack ads against him, I don't support Trump because he puts those neocons on his cabinet. This is a Ron Paul forum, why is that so weird for me to support Rand Paul, his son and torchbearer?

[kahless]

I support Rand Paul because the neocons spent millions of dollars on attack ads against him, I don't support Trump because he puts those neocons on his cabinet. This is a Ron Paul forum, why is that so weird for me to support Rand Paul, his son and torchbearer?

Do you not understand how government works or are you completely delusional? Why do you oppose Rand working with Trump to get aspects of Rand's legislation passed?

Some of Rand/Ron proposed policies made it into legislation that was either promoted by Trump or crossed his desk. Health care competition across state lines is an example of that. Yet because Trump is President you want me to oppose Trump to the benefit of the Neocons and the far left having a greater voice rather than Rand Paul. That is retarded or shows what your true intentions are here and whom you really do or do not support.

[nikcers]

Do you not understand how government works or are you completely delusional? Why do you oppose Rand working with Trump to get aspects of Rand's legislation passed?

Some of Rand/Ron proposed policies made it into legislation that was either promoted by Trump or crossed his desk. Health care competition across state lines is an example of that. Yet because Trump is President you want me to oppose Trump to the benefit of the Neocons and the far left having a greater choice. That is retarded or shows what your true intentions are here and whom you are really do or do not support.
Don't misunderstand me I think Rand Paul knows Trumps vision for America better than Trump does. :D

[Brian4Liberty]

no last time is was Mcmasters fault

It occured to me when Trump appointed Bolton that he would be a great fall guy for any controversial actions. The best.

Will Bolton still be in place when the next election happens? Or will he be gone and taking the blame? One thing Trump is consistent on is putting the blame elsewhere (not as good as Hillary, but close).

[thoughtomator]

Looks to me like the whole thing was cover to give Israel an opportunity to strike Iranian assets in Syria.

[Brian4Liberty]

Everyone supports Trump on this, don't ya know?


No worries for Trump. The Wall Street Neoconservative Journal Editorial Report on Fox today assured everyone that there was no real GOP opposition to Trump attacking Syria. And there was no Democrat opposition to Obama bombing Syria. So it's all good.

They conceded that there are a couple of media personalities who are loud about opposition, but they are just attention whores and the Trump base fully supports him.

/paraphrased

Propaganda at it's finest.

[Zippyjuan]

It occured to me when Trump appointed Bolton that he would be a great fall guy for any controversial actions. The best.

Will Bolton still be in place when the next election happens? Or will he be gone and taking the blame? One thing Trump is consistent on is putting the blame elsewhere (not as good as Hillary, but close).

Trump rules:

#1) Always take credit for good things- even if you had nothing to do with it.

#2) Always blame somebody else when things don't work out. Even if you had something do with it.

#3) Attack! Attack! Attack! whether verbally or militarily or sanctions.

[timosman]

It occured to me when Trump appointed Bolton that he would be a great fall guy for any controversial actions. The best.

Will Bolton still be in place when the next election happens? Or will he be gone and taking the blame? One thing Trump is consistent on is putting the blame elsewhere (not as good as Hillary, but close).

This is what makes a great leader. Always having a fall guy ready.:cool:

[undergroundrr]

(not as good as Hillary, but close).

Prudent move to include that. Keeps the base from calling you an ancommie.

[AuH20]

http://oi67.tinypic.com/2v7tern.jpg

[wizardwatson]

Trump rules:

#1) Always take credit for good things- even if you had nothing to do with it.

#2) Always blame somebody else when things don't work out. Even if you had something do with it.

#3) Attack! Attack! Attack! whether verbally or militarily or sanctions.

Don't forget:

#4) Whenever any meeting or phone calls take place protesting unilateral actions in violation of previous agreements, claim success in "renegotiating" even though nothing changes.

[goldenequity]

Pentagon still maintains ZERO interceptions of shiny new missiles.


What 76 missiles strike on 3 buildings in Barzeh would look like:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da1JH6JX4AA-IBE.jpg:large






reality:

http://jyxo.info/uploads/E8/e8321f5d519ef4726dc6a7a71414be49f3196af4.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da1JfkeW0AAFUKc.jpg:large




That was thanks to deterrence by a 40 yo S-200 defense.


Now Israel will be getting S-300s for neighbors.
It's what they deserve.
Come at me bro.

I'm happy.
Better deterrence=Stronger Sovereignty=Syrian Security=No Regime Change
MSGA.

Thanks Donald. Time to go home.
Couldn't have worked out better if you had planned it.
You didn't.

[kahless]

France convinced Trump to stay in Syria, says Macron
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-5619045/France-convinced-Trump-stay-Syria-says-Macron.html

"Ten days ago, President Trump was saying the United States of America had a duty to disengage from Syria," Macron said.

"I assure you, we have convinced him that it is necessary to stay for the long-term," he told veteran journalists Jean-Jacques Bourdin and Edwy Plenel, charged with the two-hour grilling on BFMTV.

985594653075439616

[Vieux Canard]

This is what makes a great leader. Always having a fall guy ready.:cool:

Time will tell. If Mattis is next to be fired we can all kiss our asses goodbye.

[goldenequity]

Pentagon still maintains ZERO interceptions of shiny new missiles.


@/Partisangirl
Pentagon launching probe on US missile failure in Syria after a video emerged of Syrian air defence shooting their missiles down.

Pentagon Is Concerned About Results Of Syria Strike, Prepares To Launch Internal Probe – Sources
https://southfront.org/pentagon-is-concerned-about-results-of-syria-strike-prepares-to-launch-internal-probe-sources/

(bububuh..wat bout the lockheed stockholders????)

[Zippyjuan]

Is there a non- Russian site which can confirm that?

https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=southfront.org

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da1JfkeW0AAFUKc.jpg:large


That was thanks to deterrence by a 40 yo S-200 defense.


They did an awesome job.

Russian spokesman tries to claim they stopped two thirds of the missiles:


A senior Russian military official has said that Syrian air defence had intercepted at least 71 cruise missiles fired by US, UK and French forces.

At a news conference in Moscow on Saturday, Lieutenant General Sergey Rudskoy said at least 103 cruise missiles, including Tomahawks, were fired into a number of targets in Syria.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/04/russia-syria-air-defence-intercepted-31-missiles-180414065923075.html

[goldenequity]

@/Partisangirl
Pentagon launching probe on US missile failure in Syria after a video emerged of Syrian air defence shooting their missiles down.

Pentagon Is Concerned About Results Of Syria Strike, Prepares To Launch Internal Probe – Sources
https://southfront.org/pentagon-is-concerned-about-results-of-syria-strike-prepares-to-launch-internal-probe-sources/

(bububuh..wat bout the lockheed stockholders????)

==========

If the above is true and an internal Pentagon 'probe' has been ordered....

then this is the obvious and reasonable analysis:

►48 hours after Western missile strike, undamaged Syrian air force resumes its operations
http://theduran.com/48-hours-after-western-missile-strike-syrian-air-forces-resumes-operations/


A military strike that has no effect whatsoever on the country which it is supposed to be attacking
is or should be an object of bafflement.



The Western powers will no doubt say that the intention of the military strike was not to damage the Syrian military
but to damage Syria’s ‘chemical weapons capabilities’.
Even if that is true, how the destruction of a few empty buildings would achieve that objective I am completely unable to see.

The alternative explanation is that the military strike was more ambitious
than the US and the Western powers are admitting,
and that the reason the Syrian air force and the Syrian military were untouched by it
is because it was a failure.




The Russians and the Syrians claim that 71 out of the 105 missiles the Western powers launched at Syria were shot down by Syria’s air defense forces
and that
the major focus of the air attack was not the undefended civilian buildings which were destroyed,
►but Syria’s air bases,
and that this part of the attack – which was the main part – utterly failed.



Here is a supposed breakdown of the missiles which the Syrian air defense supposedly shot down
and of their intended targets provided by someone who calls himself “Bundy” on its twitter feed

985156619209183232

https://twitter.com/igybundy/status/985156619209183232


There is a very large discrepancy between the Russian Ministry of Defense report of strike
and the description in the Pentagon briefing on the strike.


According to the Pentagon only three places related to non-existing Syrian chemical weapons were targeted:


This combined military strike was directed against three distinct Syrian chemical weapons program targets.
In summary, in a powerful show of allied unity, we deployed 105 weapons against three targets.


It does not make any sense
to send 35 cruise missiles against each of those not hardened, not defended targets like the now destroyed Barzeh research center
which was a small two story building complex and had been declared free of chemical weapons and weapon research by the OPCW.

Why
would the U.S. military use such a high number of precision weapons against only three targets?
This is extremely unusual and does not make sense at all.




The Russians, as well as other sources on the ground, report in detail of many more targets:

►Four missiles targeted the Damascus International Airport;
►12 missiles – the Al-Dumayr airdrome, all the missiles have been shot down.
►18 missiles targeted the Blai airdrome, all the missiles shot down.
►12 missiles targeted the Shayrat air base, all the missiles shot down. Air bases were not affected by the strike.
►Five out of nine missiles were shot down targeting the unoccupied Mazzeh airdrome.
►Thirteen out of sixteen missiles were shot down targeting the Homs airdrome. There are no heavy destructions.
►In total 30 missiles targeted facilities near Barzah and Jaramana. Seven of them have been shot down.

At least six airports were targeted according to the Russian report.


The Pentagon reports no strike on Syrian airports...
but claims to have launched way too high of a number of cruise missiles for each of the claimed three targets.

So...
►The Syrian opposition outlet SOHR reports of eight targets and says that at least 65 of the cruise missiles were downed by the Syrian air defenses.
►The Russians say 71 were shot down
►the Pentagon says none of its cruise missiles were hit.



At least three other sources confirm the Russian version of events.

The Pentagon is lying.



The attack was a U.S. attempt to disable the Syrian air force by destroying its airports.
It failed and the Pentagon is hiding that failure.

Will the U.S. media report this discrepancy?

To which I would merely add that if the missile strike was as big a debacle as Russian and Syrian reports claim it was,
then the Pentagon will certainly know of it,
and the failure of the strike will be the cause of huge dismay to the senior officers of the US military.

[Swordsmyth]

==========

If the above is true and an internal Pentagon ordered 'probe' has been ordered....

then this is the obvious and reasonable analysis:

►48 hours after Western missile strike, undamaged Syrian air force resumes its operations
http://theduran.com/48-hours-after-western-missile-strike-syrian-air-forces-resumes-operations/


A military strike that has no effect whatsoever on the country which it is supposed to be attacking is or should be an object of bafflement.



The Western powers will no doubt say that the intention of the military strike was not to damage the Syrian military
but to damage Syria’s ‘chemical weapons capabilities’.
Even if that is true, how the destruction of a few empty buildings would achieve that objective I am completely unable to see.

The alternative explanation is that the military strike was more ambitious
than the US and the Western powers are admitting,
and that the reason the Syrian air force and the Syrian military were untouched by it
is because it was a failure.




The Russians and the Syrians claim that 71 out of the 105 missiles the Western powers launched at Syria were shot down by Syria’s air defense forces
and that
the major focus of the air attack was not the undefended civilian buildings which were destroyed,
►but Syria’s air bases,
and that this part of the attack – which was the main part – utterly failed.



Here is a supposed breakdown of the missiles which the Syrian air defense supposedly shot down
and of their intended targets provided by someone who calls himself “Bundy” on its twitter feed

985156619209183232

https://twitter.com/igybundy/status/985156619209183232


There is a very large discrepancy between the Russian Ministry of Defense report of strike
and the description in the Pentagon briefing on the strike.


According to the Pentagon only three places related to non-existing Syrian chemical weapons were targeted:




It does not make any sense
to send 35 cruise missiles against each of those not hardened, not defended targets like the now destroyed Barzeh research center
which was a small two story building complex and had been declared free of chemical weapons and weapon research by the OPCW.

Why
would the U.S. military use such a high number of precision weapons against only three targets?
This is extremely unusual and does not make sense at all.




The Russians, as well as other sources on the ground, report in detail of many more targets:

►Four missiles targeted the Damascus International Airport;
►12 missiles – the Al-Dumayr airdrome, all the missiles have been shot down.
►18 missiles targeted the Blai airdrome, all the missiles shot down.
►12 missiles targeted the Shayrat air base, all the missiles shot down. Air bases were not affected by the strike.
►Five out of nine missiles were shot down targeting the unoccupied Mazzeh airdrome.
►Thirteen out of sixteen missiles were shot down targeting the Homs airdrome. There are no heavy destructions.
►In total 30 missiles targeted facilities near Barzah and Jaramana. Seven of them have been shot down.

At least six airports were targeted according to the Russian report.


The Pentagon reports no strike on Syrian airports...
but claims to have launched way too high of a number of cruise missiles for each of the claimed three targets.

So...
►The Syrian opposition outlet SOHR reports of eight targets and says that at least 65 of the cruise missiles were downed by the Syrian air defenses.
►The Russians say 71 were shot down
►the Pentagon says none of its cruise missiles were hit.



At least three other sources confirm the Russian version of events.

The Pentagon is lying.



The attack was a U.S. attempt to disable the Syrian air force by destroying its airports.
It failed and the Pentagon is hiding that failure.

Will the U.S. media report this discrepancy?

To which I would merely add that if the missile strike was as big a debacle as Russian and Syrian reports claim it was,
then the Pentagon will certainly know of it,
and the failure of the strike will be the cause of huge dismay to the senior officers of the US military.

I think both sides are lying, I think the strike was coordinated and achieved what it intended to achieve....... NOTHING
It was arranged so that both sides could tell exactly the story they wanted to tell to their domestic audiences and international allies, the only real effect was to let the MIC on both sides make a profit restocking missile supplies.

[Zippyjuan]

They already said they were NOT targeting the military. And another Russian source? http://theduran.com/russia/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-duran/

[goldenequity]

They already said they were NOT targeting the military. And another Russian source? http://theduran.com/russia/
oops my bad... i thot it was cnn. there i go again...

[goldenequity]

heads up: i think this one's russian too... :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkGh72577qc

[milgram]

Please only use American sources, preferably those associated with the American government. Time and time again they have proven to be the most trustworthy.

[sdsubball23]

What's the truth about Syria? Did Syria drop the chemical weapon bombs onto Douma or did someone else? The official reports say Syria used helicopters to drop chemical bombs. But others say it wasn't Syria. If it wasn't Syria, then who with aircraft's could have dropped the chemical bombs onto Douma?

[Swordsmyth]

What's the truth about Syria? Did Syria drop the chemical weapon bombs onto Dogma or did someone else? The official reports say Syria used helicopters to drop chemical bombs. But others say it wasn't Syria. If it wasn't Syria, then who with aircraft's could have dropped the chemical bombs onto Dogma?
Read this thread:
Dhouma Chemical Attack (right on schedule) (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?521122-Dhouma-Chemical-Attack-(right-on-schedule))

[kahless]

France convinced Trump to stay in Syria, says Macron
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-5619045/France-convinced-Trump-stay-Syria-says-Macron.html


http://www.wjcl.com/article/us-to-hit-russia-with-new-sanctions-for-aiding-syrias-assad/19824332

Haley made clear the United States won’t be pulling troops out of Syria right away, saying U.S. involvement there “is not done.”

Haley said the three U.S. goals for accomplishing its mission are making sure chemical weapons are not used in a way that could harm U.S. national interests, defeating the Islamic State group and having a good vantage point to watch what Iran is doing.

“We’re not going to leave until we know we’ve accomplished those things,” she said.

Haley said the joint military strike “put a heavy blow into their chemical weapons program, setting them back years” and reiterated that if Assad uses poison gas again, “the United States is locked and loaded.”

French President Emmanuel Macron said Sunday that France wants to launch a diplomatic initiative over Syria that would include Western powers, Russia and Turkey. Speaking on French television BFM and online site Mediapart, Macron stressed that the French diplomacy is able to talk with Iran, Russia and Turkey on one side and to the United States on the other side.

He said, “Ten days ago, President Trump wanted to withdraw from Syria. We convinced him to remain.”

Asked about Macron’s comments, White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders stressed that Trump’s plans for the region have not changed. In a statement, she said: “The U.S. mission has not changed. The President has been clear that he wants U.S. forces to come home as quickly as possible.”

[goldenequity]

Rather than denial, this seems a more reasonable analysis...


It's not hard to figure out why the tomahawks fared so poorly.
You can shoot them down with any AA weapon ever made.
Their only defense is their ground hugging ability that can (in favorable terrain) shield themselves from radar.

Syria simply had their AAA deployed to cover every valley along it's Western shores.
And the AA sites were not targeted.

In a normal attack a swath of those sites would have been hit first to clear the way for other missiles and aircraft.

More aggressive missiles exist, but they require their delivery systems to fire from much closer.
The US wanted to sit back at a safe distance and lob in some long range cruise missiles completely ignoring AAA.

[thoughtomator]

weapons test

aimed at China

[goldenequity]

From Skripal to Syria – the Empire’s 'New Realities' Are Reaching the End of the Road

"Reality — I mean real reality, rather than the phoney reality they have created — will catch up sooner or later. I sense that it’s on its way even now. And when it finally comes, the whole rotten edifice that these “history’s actors” have tried to create will crash and burn. Bringing much rejoicing."
Rob Slane 22 minutes ago..

“That’s not the way the world really works anymore. We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

Thus spoke Karl Rove, Deputy Chief of Staff in the Government of George W. Bush.

========



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udpvMko-PCw


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11:52 UNITED STATES TRYING TO THWART ACTIVITY OF OPCW REPRESENTATIVES IN SYRIA BEFORE THEY REACH DOUMA - RUSSIAN MISSION TO OPCW

Russian military ready to provide transportation, security of OPCW mission in Syria

====

bar in Syria makes a cake ..... writing says, "We have been victorious"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da5ZXM3XkAA4iOV.jpg:small

https://twitter.com/TigrisEquitare/status/985832329213038592

[pcosmar]

What's the truth about Syria? Did Syria drop the chemical weapon bombs onto Douma or did someone else? The official reports say Syria used helicopters to drop chemical bombs. But others say it wasn't Syria. If it wasn't Syria, then who with aircraft's could have dropped the chemical bombs onto Douma?

Agents of Evil.. take your pick...
Saudi Arabia,,who supplies the weapons?.. Turkey who facilitates transport?,, Israel who instigates everything?

[shakey1]

From Skripal to Syria – the Empire’s 'New Realities' Are Reaching the End of the Road

"Reality — I mean real reality, rather than the phoney reality they have created — will catch up sooner or later. I sense that it’s on its way even now. And when it finally comes, the whole rotten edifice that these “history’s actors” have tried to create will crash and burn. Bringing much rejoicing."
Rob Slane 22 minutes ago..

“That’s not the way the world really works anymore. We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

Thus spoke Karl Rove, Deputy Chief of Staff in the Government of George W. Bush.

========



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udpvMko-PCw


=====

11:52 UNITED STATES TRYING TO THWART ACTIVITY OF OPCW REPRESENTATIVES IN SYRIA BEFORE THEY REACH DOUMA - RUSSIAN MISSION TO OPCW

Russian military ready to provide transportation, security of OPCW mission in Syria

====

bar in Syria makes a cake ..... writing says, "We have been victorious"



https://twitter.com/TigrisEquitare/status/985832329213038592

http://www.thecitizensaudit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Ministry-of-Truth.jpg

[goldenequity]

►PESKOV DECLINES TO SAY WHETHER U.S. STRIKE ON SYRIA WAS UNEXPECTED BUT SAID THERE WAS SOME EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION VIA MILITARY CHANNELS

►Putin Warns Of Global "Chaos" If West Hits Syria Again
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-16/putin-warns-global-chaos-if-west-hits-syria-again

►RUSSIA'S RESPONSE TO TOUGHEN IF U.S. CROSSES RED LINES IN SYRIA - KOSACHYOV
Interfax

►New US Strikes in Syria Will Provoke a Tougher Response - Moscow
https://sputniknews.com/world/201804161063603612-russia-opcw-us-chemical-attack-douma/

►Lavrov now on BBC talking to stephensackur. Says there will be "consequences" for the US-led attack on Syria.
Says Russia has lost its "last remnant of trust" in the West.
https://twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/985851482107936768

►Lavrov tells me relations with West are ‘worse than in Cold War’.
Says air strikes represent punishment without proof and says Russia will protect Assad Govt with new missiles if necessary.

►Marcon said earlier that one of the things they accomplished it was to break the ties between Turkey and Russia, as Turkey condemned the chemical attacks
now turkey answers back....
Turkey-Russia Ties Too Strong to be Broken by French President Macron - Ankara

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/media/2113/rpilogo-final.gif
►Trump’s Disastrous Syria Attack
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2018/april/16/trump-s-disastrous-syria-attack/


►Netanyahu: Israel to continue action against Iran in Syria






----

Yarmouk operation launched!
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?521278-Next-Battlefront-Yarmouk-Camp&p=6617639&viewfull=1#post6617639

[goldenequity]

ruh-roh..

The Intel Crab
985881843164762112
Russian Navigation system #GLONASS is offline following a serious malfunction.
https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/985881843164762112


(Have they tried unplugging it and then plugging it back in? :D )

[goldenequity]

French Volunteer: New Chemical Attack to Come Within Few Months in Idlib
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804161063616212-new-chemical-attack-idlib-syria/

Speaking with Sputnik France, Pierre Le Corf, founder of the NGO “WeAreSuperheroes,” who has been living in Syria’s Aleppo for some time,
has warned of another attack to come, this time in the province of Idlib within a few months.

[goldenequity]

Dhouma


OPCW UPDATE

“The Team has not yet deployed to Douma. The Syrian and the Russian officials who participated in the preparatory meetings in Damascus
have informed the FFM Team that there were still pending security issues to be worked out before any deployment could take place.”

Wats the holdup?

RUSSIA SAYS UN HAS NOT COMPLETED APPROPRIATE FORMS AND DOCUMENTATION FOR DOUMA INSPECTOR VISIT - DEPUTY PM OF RUSSIA

(catch 22: without appropriate documents, any results of investigation may be declare as null and void. :cool: )


UPDATE
►Clashes underway in Douma between Syria’s National Guard and militants
http://tass.com/world/1000007

The Russian Defense Ministry earlier reported that the evacuation of militants from Douma had been completed on April 13

9reports of new terrorist infiltrations and fighting in Douma. There is also a lot of live ordnance all over the place.)

================


Pantsir-S1 Repelling US Strikes on Syria Showed 100% Effectiveness - Russian MoD
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804161063620948-pantsir-s1-syria/

https://cdn1.img.sputniknews.com/images/105246/28/1052462892.jpg

========

MoD Air Defense Systems Details:

Yuri Lyamin
@imp_navigator
Acc Russian MoD,
Syrian air defense launched 112 SA missiles during US missile strike.
Pantsir-S1 - 25 missiles hit 23 targets
Buk-M2E - 29 missiles hit 24 targets
Osa - 11 hit 5
S-125 - 13 hit 5
Strela-10 - 5 hit 3
Kvadrat - 21 hit 11
S-200 - 8 hit 0

[bunklocoempire]

Trump, Obama, Bush, and Billary ACTIONS all show, responding to false flags is US-A-Okay. Fear and false pride make for a strong, addictive, drug.

Make America Gack Again

[goldenequity]

Is This Now 'Act 3' (to the triggered hegemon script in play??)

(Ratcheting up the rhetoric. How long before they "are forced to take action against the evil Red menace"?)

CYBERATTACK!

Deborah Haynes @haynesdeborah
now
►BREAK – UK & US issue unprecedented alert against Russia “malicious cyber activity”,
accusing Kremlin of “coordinated campaign” to exploit Internet infrastructure – routers, switches, firewalls compromised, millions of machines globally affected

►US and UK officials warn of risk of Russia using its position within networks and routers across the world to launch offensive cyber operations - "it is a tremendous weapon in the hands of an adversary"

►Ciaran Martin, head of @NCSC , on conference calls with US colleagues, says: “This is a very significant moment as we hold Russia to account”. He calls the move part of a “transatlantic fight-back against Russia in cyber space

►Mirror: Russia is hacking tens of thousands of British home computers to pave the way for a crippling cyber attack

=========


Lindsey Graham calls Syria strikes a 'missed opportunity,' 'major step backwards'
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/lindsey-graham-calls-syria-strikes-a-missed-opportunity-major-step-backwards
(another complaining, flaccid neocon... not enuf boom boom.)
if we had only attacked Russian positions and bases, we could have had full scale nuclear war by now.


UK
HackneyAbbott
Shocking to hear Tory minister on BBC radio today claim that
you can’t allow Parliament to vote on war because that would be to “outsource the decision to people who don’t have all the info”
Do these people understand what parliamentary democracy is?

For 'national security' reasons, plebs aren't allowed their Parliaments/Congress to vote on decisions to go to war, that's the direction things are heading.

[Swordsmyth]

The US warned Russia ahead of the overnight strikes on Syria, US Ambassador to Russia Jon Huntsman said, adding that the military action was not “about the conflict between superpowers.”

More at: https://www.globalresearch.ca/syrian-strike-is-not-conflict-between-superpowers-russia-was-warned-ahead-us-envoy-to-moscow/5636346

[vita3]

Independent conservative news channel reports from Douma & finds no proof of chemical attacks

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lSXwG-901yU&feature=share

[Raginfridus]

The US warned Russia ahead of the overnight strikes on Syria, US Ambassador to Russia Jon Huntsman said, adding that the military action was not “about the conflict between superpowers.”

More at: https://www.globalresearch.ca/syrian-strike-is-not-conflict-between-superpowers-russia-was-warned-ahead-us-envoy-to-moscow/5636346

Not at all, its about sellingout. Selling out noninterventionists and sellingout Syria.

[RonZeplin]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSTt2jKbzUCUZwmxdvjs-R7EbfsdennyAaKPIOFPyLuh0crbput2Q

[AZJoe]

Pentagon still maintains ZERO interceptions of shiny new missiles.
What 76 missiles strike on 3 buildings in Barzeh would look like:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da1JH6JX4AA-IBE.jpg:large

reality:

http://jyxo.info/uploads/E8/e8321f5d519ef4726dc6a7a71414be49f3196af4.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da1JfkeW0AAFUKc.jpg:large

That was thanks to deterrence by a 40 yo S-200 defense.

Now Israel will be getting S-300s for neighbors.
It's what they deserve.
Come at me bro.

I'm happy.
Better deterrence=Stronger Sovereignty=Syrian Security=No Regime Change
MSGA.

Thanks Donald. Time to go home.
Couldn't have worked out better if you had planned it.
You didn't.

So Washington claim 103 missiles at only 3 targets? Really?
You don;t have to be the sharpest tool in the shed to detect the horseshit on that one.
That looks like a face saving lie. Only three targets struck, so they pretend all 103 missiles were all meant for only 3 targets.
Especially since just two days before the strike, Pentagon reported (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/12/trump-decision-on-syria-strikes-coming-fairly-soon.html) they had eight 8 targets (which corroborates the Syria-Russia version).

And if 103 missiles hit only 3 targets, those sites would look like some pock-marked barren surface of an asteroid.
the site in the photo above still has structures standing , after supposedly being hit by 76 missiles. Riiiiggghht!

[wizardwatson]

Is This Now 'Act 3'

Whatever Act it is, this play is getting reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeal fucking boring.

The hubris is so far off the charts, the lazy asses spinning this pathetic excuse for a story don't even feel like it even needs to be convincing.

USA: "Oh, you know Russia...evil 'n stuff."

RUSSIA/CHINA: "Arrogant, rule breaking criminal, blah, blah, blah, actions, consequences, international order, derp a derp."

Just stupid lazy unoriginal garbage. But what do you expect I guess from the inbred bankster illuminists, whose idea of heaven and utopia is a bunch of fat genderless child-raping sodomites wallowing in virgin's blood munching on placentas while having in depth discussions about Jungian archetypes and how the secrets of the universe can be found in numerology and geometric patterns.

...anyway, lost my train of thought.

But yeah, boring, "Just burning and murdering". Gettin' old, turd-nuggets.

https://youtu.be/LxOEBk9PqQQ?t=1m47s

[goldenequity]

Whatever Act it is, this play is getting reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeal $#@!ing boring.

The hubris is so far off the charts, the lazy asses spinning this pathetic excuse for a story don't even feel like it even needs to be convincing.

USA: "Oh, you know Russia...evil 'n stuff."

RUSSIA/CHINA: "Arrogant, rule breaking criminal, blah, blah, blah, actions, consequences, international order, derp a derp."

Just stupid lazy unoriginal garbage. But what do you expect I guess from the inbred bankster illuminists, whose idea of heaven and utopia is a bunch of fat genderless child-raping sodomites wallowing in virgin's blood munching on placentas while having in depth discussions about Jungian archetypes and how the secrets of the universe can be found in numerology and geometric patterns.

...anyway, lost my train of thought.

But yeah, boring, "Just burning and murdering". Gettin' old, turd-nuggets.

https://youtu.be/LxOEBk9PqQQ?t=1m47s

Rome is burning.

[AZJoe]

https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30728993_2113004025599868_8316220677027790848_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=7d0689a5f989db1c83997cf43cf5de5b&oe=5B5B11F0

https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30710417_10216397353825574_3103770968010175975_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=7688a497888a11808ff62786f3eae88c&oe=5B68782C

[AZJoe]

984967029663895553

984964393489362944

[timosman]

Speaker Ryan has responsibilities?:eek:

[nikcers]

►BREAK – UK & US issue unprecedented alert against Russia “malicious cyber activity”,
accusing Kremlin of “coordinated campaign” to exploit Internet infrastructure – routers, switches, firewalls compromised, millions of machines globally affected

:mad:

The U.S. and British governments on Monday accused Russia of conducting a massive campaign to compromise computer routers and firewalls around the world — from home offices to internet service providers — for espionage and possibly sabotage purposes.The unusual public warning from the White House, U.S. agencies and Britain's National Cyber Security Center results from monitoring the threat for more than a year. It was the two countries' first such joint alert.


"We have high confidence that Russia has carried out a coordinated campaign to compromise ... routers, residential and business — the things you and I have in our home," said Rob Joyce, the White House cybersecurity coordinator.


Officials say millions of users worldwide have been targeted.
(http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-routers-russia-20180416-story.html)


"We condemn the actions and hold the Kremlin responsible for the malicious activities," said Jeannette Manfra, the chief cybersecurity official for the Department of Homeland Security.

[wizardwatson]

Rome is burning.

I am reminded of the ending of movie "Watchmen".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewnVPPjFo_Q

If you haven't seen, spoiler alert follows.

The basic premise is a super smart guy uses an isolated, essentially "nuclear" type catastrophe to thwart a fake alien invasion with the goal of uniting humanity against a common enemy. The catch is half the population of New York is sacrificed to achieve this contrived goal of "world peace" built on a lie and innocent blood.

Certainly there are conspiracies an no doubt some powerful men who have similar clever ideas about how to initiate their "New World Order".

But just like in that clip above from the movie, you've got the main guy, you've got some other guys who hate the idea but feel they must go along, then you've got people who neither condemn nor condone, but "understand", and then you've got the real hero, Rorschach.

Rorschach is uncompromising truth. Innocents die too, but Rorschach is the saint. He is the man of God.

This false peace, this utopia the powerful men of this world think "matters", isn't really peace, it's just a fantasy. It is God who makes peace and war. Ultimately, He doesn't even care about peace and war, evil and good, in the way we generally understand. He seeks to turn men's hearts. It is more a personal matter.

People who do his will, and truly sacrifice for the cause of truth and mercy, the bible says the death of those people is very precious in His eyes.

People say "Where is God? When will He exact His justice? Doesn't He care about all this death?"

But most only say that when they witness death and injustice. When peace reigns, when they are comfortable is God generally glorified? No. They say, "We did it ourselves."

"When" God has His day of vengeance, known to people in general as "The apocalypse" which simply means "The revealing" is described quite explicitly in Revelation 6:9-11. The fifth seal is the blood of the saints. Directly following is the 6th seal "Terror" which is explicitly defined then as the first place in the "Seals/Trumpets/Vials" progression where the people of Earth become collectively spiritually "aware" that the horrible thing happening is from God.

So we know then that the "when" is defined as when the amount of saints bodies piled up equals however many God has predestined to die such a death. It doesn't have anything to do with world events so much, as it does with the Rorschachs of the world dying.

But the bible says it will come as a thief in the night. Which probably means not when everyone is "on edge" about some nuclear catastrophe. I think a Watchmen scenario is plausible only because it is stupid idea men who think they are wise and clever would dream up. Some engineered Russia/US perhaps conflagration that scares the world so bad that all of the sudden the U.N. becomes relevant, maybe a peace deal in Israel/Palestine and the whole world rejoices and has actual hope that positive change may really happen.

But somewhere unseen, the last breath of the last Christian martyr ordained for the 5th seal is taken, and then...


Revelation 6:12 I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake.


Isaiah 2:19 People will flee to caves in the rocks
and to holes in the ground
from the fearful presence of the Lord
and the splendor of his majesty,
when he rises to shake the earth.

And then....well, we sing our asses off!

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;
His truth is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy6AOGRsR80

[milgram]

Trump heard the criticism? According to this, he's still looking for an American exit in Syria. Bolton is asking other countries to get involved.

986058110862286848

[Swordsmyth]

Trump heard the criticism? According to this, he's still looking for an American exit in Syria. Bolton is asking other countries to get involved.

986058110862286848

Some could see he might do this all along.
Q predicted it as well:

Apr 9 2018 12:25:58 (EST)
Q !xowAT4Z3VQ
ID: 28003e
967752

(https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/967079.html#967752) Syria.
Hold until CONF.
MIL assets on the ground locked out of GZ.
ISRAEL strike harmed ability to prove events.
Clown report must be VERIFIED.
Troop unwind to STILL occur.
Have faith.
Trust POTUS.
Q

[nikcers]

Trump heard the criticism? According to this, he's still looking for an American exit in Syria. Bolton is asking other countries to get involved.
You guys had me worried, John Bolton is on the job! Next John can find a military solution for putting socks on.

http://i.imgur.com/HkwRugo.gif

[wizardwatson]

Trump heard the criticism? According to this, he's still looking for an American exit in Syria. Bolton is asking other countries to get involved.

986058110862286848

Were we ever officially "in" Syria? It was weapons, then money to train, then "advisors", then small units supporting the Kurds, then bases at Al Tanf, etc. etc.

Now, it's a victory that pussy-POTUS "may be" negotiating to get other nations to replace our contingent so POTUS feels "safe" withdrawing our "troops" that are suddenly in Syria???

Pull the fucking troops out of there you coward, or shut up and own your war.

[dannno]

Some could see he might do this all along.
Q predicted it as well:

Apr 9 2018 12:25:58 (EST)
Q !xowAT4Z3VQ
ID: 28003e
967752

(https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/967079.html#967752) Syria.
Hold until CONF.
MIL assets on the ground locked out of GZ.
ISRAEL strike harmed ability to prove events.
Clown report must be VERIFIED.
Troop unwind to STILL occur.
Have faith.
Trust POTUS.
Q

I hope so, you can't make this stuff up..


Federal Judge Who Rejected Trump’s Request For a Restraining Order Over Materials Seized in FBI Raid Officiated George Soros’ Wedding
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?521242-Will-Cohen-Raid-Lead-Trump-To-Attack-Syria

[Swordsmyth]

Forget what the Syrian government or the Ruskies say.

The first Western journalist has interviewed doctors at the hospital in Douma, Syria which supposedly treated chemical weapons victims and is announcing what really happened.
In the following 1-minute clip, award-winning (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Fisk) journalist Robert Fisk – writer for Britain’s Independent for almost 30 years – explains that the video of victims struggling to breathe are real, but that they have nothing to do with a chemical weapons attack:


Here’s a transcript:


I’ve just been in the town of Douma. I found the clinic where the film of the children frothing at the mouth and having water thrown at them was made.
And I spoke to the hospital doctor, who actually spoke very good English. And he told me that the video is real. But they’re not suffering from gas poisoning.
They’re suffering from hypoxia (i.e. insufficient of oxygen) because of the amount of dust in the tunnels in which they live. All through the year people in the Douma area have been living beneath their own homes, in tunnels and basements.
And that night there was a shelling by the Syrian army and the Russian air force. And it produced a huge amount of dust and debris in the streets. And many people found it difficult to breathe.
And when they reached the clinic according to the doctor, someone shouted “gas” … and they panicked.
Background here (http://washingtonsblog.com/2018/04/experts-doubt-claims-that-syria-carried-out-chemical-weapons-attack.html)and here (http://washingtonsblog.com/2018/04/syrian-regime-change-a-70-year-project.html).
Update: Fisk filed (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/syria-chemical-attack-gas-douma-robert-fisk-ghouta-damascus-a8307726.html) the following report with the Independent today:

This is the story of a town called Douma, a ravaged, stinking place of smashed apartment blocks — and of an underground clinic whose images of suffering allowed three of the Western world’s most powerful nations to bomb Syria last week. There’s even a friendly doctor in a green coat who, when I track him down in the very same clinic, cheerfully tells me that the ‘gas’ videotape which horrified the world – despite all the doubters – is perfectly genuine.
***
The same 58-year old senior Syrian doctor then adds something profoundly uncomfortable: the patients, he says, were overcome not by gas but by oxygen starvation in the rubbish-filled tunnels and basements in which they lived, on a night of wind and heavy shelling that stirred up a dust storm.

As Dr Assim Rahaibani announces this extraordinary conclusion, it is worth observing that he is by his own admission not an eye witness himself and, as he speaks good English, he refers twice to the jihadi gunmen of Jaish el-Islam [the Army of Islam] in Douma as “terrorists” – the regime’s word for their enemies, and a term used by many people across Syria.
***

This is not the only story in Douma. There are the many people I talked amid the ruins of the town who said they had “never believed in” gas stories – which were usually put about, they claimed, by the armed Islamist groups. These particular jihadis survived under a blizzard of shellfire by living in other’s people’s homes and in vast, wide tunnels with underground roads carved through the living rock by prisoners with pick-axes on three levels beneath the town.
***
I walked across this town quite freely yesterday without soldier, policeman or minder to haunt my footsteps, just two Syrian friends, a camera and a notebook.
***
It was a short walk to Dr Rahaibani. From the door of his subterranean clinic – “Point 200,” it is called, in the weird geology of this partly-underground city – is a corridor leading downhill where he showed me his lowly hospital and the few beds where a small girl was crying as nurses treated a cut above her eye.
“I was with my family in the basement of my home three hundred metres from here on the night but all the doctors know what happened. There was a lot of shelling and aircraft were always over Douma at night — but on this night, there was wind and huge dust clouds began to come into the basements and cellars where people lived. People began to arrive here suffering from hypoxia, oxygen loss. Then someone at the door, a [B]‘White Helmet’, shouted ‘Gas!”, and a panic began. People started throwing water over each other. Yes, the video was filmed here, it is genuine, but what you see are people suffering from hypoxia – not gas poisoning.”
Update 2:
American reporter Pearson Sharp says the same thing, that none of the local residents heard anything about a chemical weapons attack, and the locals said that the Islamic terrorists faked the attack in order to create enough chaos and confusion that they could slip out of town:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnkhQu-e0n0

This would appear to confirm what the former British ambassador to Syria says (http://washingtonsblog.com/2018/04/former-uk-ambassador-to-syria-syrian-chemical-weapons-attack-was-staged-by-islamic-jihadi-propagandists-it-is-likely-no-one-died.html).


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-16/first-western-journalist-syrian-hospital-which-treated-chemical-weapons-victims

[dannno]

Forget what the Syrian government or the Ruskies say.

The first Western journalist has interviewed doctors at the hospital in Douma, Syria which supposedly treated chemical weapons victims and is announcing what really happened.
In the following 1-minute clip, award-winning (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Fisk) journalist Robert Fisk – writer for Britain’s Independent for almost 30 years – explains that the video of victims struggling to breathe are real, but that they have nothing to do with a chemical weapons attack:


Here’s a transcript:

I’ve just been in the town of Douma. I found the clinic where the film of the children frothing at the mouth and having water thrown at them was made.
And I spoke to the hospital doctor, who actually spoke very good English. And he told me that the video is real. But they’re not suffering from gas poisoning.
They’re suffering from hypoxia (i.e. insufficient of oxygen) because of the amount of dust in the tunnels in which they live. All through the year people in the Douma area have been living beneath their own homes, in tunnels and basements.
And that night there was a shelling by the Syrian army and the Russian air force. And it produced a huge amount of dust and debris in the streets. And many people found it difficult to breathe.
And when they reached the clinic according to the doctor, someone shouted “gas” … and they panicked.

Background here (http://washingtonsblog.com/2018/04/experts-doubt-claims-that-syria-carried-out-chemical-weapons-attack.html)and here (http://washingtonsblog.com/2018/04/syrian-regime-change-a-70-year-project.html).
Update: Fisk filed (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/syria-chemical-attack-gas-douma-robert-fisk-ghouta-damascus-a8307726.html) the following report with the Independent today:
This is the story of a town called Douma, a ravaged, stinking place of smashed apartment blocks — and of an underground clinic whose images of suffering allowed three of the Western world’s most powerful nations to bomb Syria last week. There’s even a friendly doctor in a green coat who, when I track him down in the very same clinic, cheerfully tells me that the ‘gas’ videotape which horrified the world – despite all the doubters – is perfectly genuine.
***
The same 58-year old senior Syrian doctor then adds something profoundly uncomfortable: the patients, he says, were overcome not by gas but by oxygen starvation in the rubbish-filled tunnels and basements in which they lived, on a night of wind and heavy shelling that stirred up a dust storm.

As Dr Assim Rahaibani announces this extraordinary conclusion, it is worth observing that he is by his own admission not an eye witness himself and, as he speaks good English, he refers twice to the jihadi gunmen of Jaish el-Islam [the Army of Islam] in Douma as “terrorists” – the regime’s word for their enemies, and a term used by many people across Syria.
***

This is not the only story in Douma. There are the many people I talked amid the ruins of the town who said they had “never believed in” gas stories – which were usually put about, they claimed, by the armed Islamist groups. These particular jihadis survived under a blizzard of shellfire by living in other’s people’s homes and in vast, wide tunnels with underground roads carved through the living rock by prisoners with pick-axes on three levels beneath the town.
***
I walked across this town quite freely yesterday without soldier, policeman or minder to haunt my footsteps, just two Syrian friends, a camera and a notebook.
***
It was a short walk to Dr Rahaibani. From the door of his subterranean clinic – “Point 200,” it is called, in the weird geology of this partly-underground city – is a corridor leading downhill where he showed me his lowly hospital and the few beds where a small girl was crying as nurses treated a cut above her eye.
“I was with my family in the basement of my home three hundred metres from here on the night but all the doctors know what happened. There was a lot of shelling and aircraft were always over Douma at night — but on this night, there was wind and huge dust clouds began to come into the basements and cellars where people lived. People began to arrive here suffering from hypoxia, oxygen loss. Then someone at the door, a [B]‘White Helmet’, shouted ‘Gas!”, and a panic began. People started throwing water over each other. Yes, the video was filmed here, it is genuine, but what you see are people suffering from hypoxia – not gas poisoning.”

Update 2:
American reporter Pearson Sharp says the same thing, that none of the local residents heard anything about a chemical weapons attack, and the locals said that the Islamic terrorists faked the attack in order to create enough chaos and confusion that they could slip out of town:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnkhQu-e0n0

This would appear to confirm what the former British ambassador to Syria says (http://washingtonsblog.com/2018/04/former-uk-ambassador-to-syria-syrian-chemical-weapons-attack-was-staged-by-islamic-jihadi-propagandists-it-is-likely-no-one-died.html).


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-16/first-western-journalist-syrian-hospital-which-treated-chemical-weapons-victims

Gas denier.

[Swordsmyth]

Gas denier.

https://pre00.deviantart.net/f179/th/pre/f/2016/022/b/2/proud_to_be_rebel_scum_by_grigori77-d9owgxp.png

[wizardwatson]

Forget what the Syrian government or the Ruskies say.

The first Western journalist has interviewed doctors at the hospital in Douma, Syria which supposedly treated chemical weapons victims and is announcing what really happened.
In the following 1-minute clip, award-winning (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Fisk) journalist Robert Fisk – writer for Britain’s Independent for almost 30 years – explains that the video of victims struggling to breathe are real...
Here’s a transcript:

I’ve just been in the town of Douma. I found the clinic where the film of the children frothing at the mouth and having water thrown at them was made.
And I spoke to the hospital doctor, who actually spoke very good English. And he told me that the video is real.

[I]Today on social media it was confirmed that the first American journalist to investigate the scene met with doctors who were first responders in the April 7th chemical attack by Bashar-Al-Assad on innocent civilians in Douma, Eastern Ghouta and it was confirmed that the videos are in fact real.

Great job following up on this RPF.

[Swordsmyth]

Today on social media it was confirmed that the first American journalist to investigate the scene met with doctors who were first responders in the April 7th chemical attack by Bashar-Al-Assad on innocent civilians in Douma, Eastern Ghouta and it was confirmed that the videos are in fact real.

Great job following up on this RPF.

You have a job waiting for you in the MSM.

[wizardwatson]

You have a job waiting for you in the MSM.

MSM cannot be beaten by countering the mainstream narrative. Any grassroots movement has to approach from an undefended talking point if it wants to be effective in organizing. The R3volution has not learned this lesson.

"Woking" people, paying attention to the likes of QAnon, Alex Jones, etc., or any other talking head attempting to counter official narrative with truth loses the numbers game. It will never be effective because the narrative moves and changes faster than any consensus builds.

Ron Paul R3volution was successful because the narrative was underground. It was only when mainstream caught up that it fractured.

Anyway, point is, you're right. I would make a great propagandist.

Lucky for you all, I prefer the masochism of talking to walls.

[Swordsmyth]

MSM cannot be beaten by countering the mainstream narrative. Any grassroots movement has to approach from an undefended talking point if it wants to be effective in organizing. The R3volution has not learned this lesson.

"Woking" people, paying attention to the likes of QAnon, Alex Jones, etc., or any other talking head attempting to counter official narrative with truth loses the numbers game. It will never be effective because the narrative moves and changes faster than any consensus builds.

Ron Paul R3volution was successful because the narrative was underground. It was only when mainstream caught up that it fractured.

Anyway, point is, you're right. I would make a great propagandist.

Lucky for you all, I prefer the masochism of talking to walls.

I agree that taking the offensive is needed in order to win but you have to play defense as well.
Ron made great strides by talking about the fed when nobody had ever heard of it before, we need the people on our side to find more things like that to talk about but we can't sit idly by while lies get spread either.

[goldenequity]

The Wall Street Journal: Trump administration wants Arab allies to send troops to Syria to replace U.S. forces
https://www.markettamer.com/blog/the-wall-street-journal-trump-administration-wants-arab-allies-to-send-troops-to-syria-to-replace-u-s-forces

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is seeking to assemble an Arab force to replace the U.S. military contingent in Syria and help stabilize the northeastern part of the country after the defeat of Islamic State, U.S. officials said.

John Bolton, President Donald Trump’s new national security adviser, recently called Abbas Kamel, Egypt’s acting intelligence chief, to see if Cairo would contribute to the effort, officials said.

The initiative comes as the administration has asked Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates to contribute billions of dollars to help restore northern Syria. It wants Arab nations to send troops as well, officials said.

Details about the initiative, which haven’t been previously disclosed, have emerged in the days since the U.S.-led strikes on sites associated with the Syrian regime’s chemical-weapons capabilities.

more
U.S. Seeks Arab Force and Funding for Syria
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-seeks-arab-force-and-funding-for-syria-1523927888?mod=mktw


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If Egypt.... (& no muslim brotherhood)
this could work....
currently receiving 'twitter support' by the pro-Assad activists...
wait and see...
bottomline: COME HOME

[nikcers]

It occured to me when Trump appointed Bolton that he would be a great fall guy for any controversial actions. The best.

Will Bolton still be in place when the next election happens? Or will he be gone and taking the blame? One thing Trump is consistent on is putting the blame elsewhere (not as good as Hillary, but close).
The blame is both the scorpion and the frog for trusting the scorpion.

[AZJoe]

https://dxczjjuegupb.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/WhatsApp-Image-2018-04-16-at-11.49.30.jpeg

[goldenequity]

Rome is burning.

Syria is Just Kabuki Warfare As We Sail Into Financial Armageddon
https://russia-insider.com/en/syria-just-kabuki-warfare-we-sail-financial-armageddon/ri23169
James Howard Kunstler
"When this chapter of US history is finally written, it will look like a deep dive into a vat of lentil soup."
https://russia-insider.com/sites/insider/files/styles/1200xauto/public/b4b56cf2ea792cee7471f37ea772c999_0.jpg?itok=HCmcMd 3R

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7 Questions About The Syria Airstrikes That Still Aren't Being Asked
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-17/7-questions-about-syria-airstrikes-still-arent-being-asked

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/questions-syria-airstrikes.jpg?itok=j-woiYFs

[goldenequity]

Footage and Review (note to zippy... it's russian :) )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WyMhpVc4Uw

[goldenequity]

Russian bots

US Grasping At Straws In Syria
RonPaulLibertyReport


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HkjCkvHlvQ&feature=youtu.be


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Max Abrahms
Macron on the #SyriaStrikes:
"These strikes don't necessarily resolve anything, but I think they were important." :D

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heads up... yunno

CNN Fake News Correspondent Sniffs “Chlorine-Sprayed” Backpack, Decides It’s a Chemical Weapon


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBgViIGLo-w

how to detect Sarin...

http://www.hejbatka.cz/upload/mt9lrr8imo.gif

[goldenequity]

The Wall Street Journal: Trump administration wants Arab allies to send troops to Syria to replace U.S. forces
https://www.markettamer.com/blog/the-wall-street-journal-trump-administration-wants-arab-allies-to-send-troops-to-syria-to-replace-u-s-forces

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is seeking to assemble an Arab force to replace the U.S. military contingent in Syria and help stabilize the northeastern part of the country after the defeat of Islamic State, U.S. officials said.

John Bolton, President Donald Trump’s new national security adviser, recently called Abbas Kamel, Egypt’s acting intelligence chief, to see if Cairo would contribute to the effort, officials said.

The initiative comes as the administration has asked Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates to contribute billions of dollars to help restore northern Syria. It wants Arab nations to send troops as well, officials said.

Details about the initiative, which haven’t been previously disclosed, have emerged in the days since the U.S.-led strikes on sites associated with the Syrian regime’s chemical-weapons capabilities.

more
U.S. Seeks Arab Force and Funding for Syria
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-seeks-arab-force-and-funding-for-syria-1523927888?mod=mktw


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If Egypt.... (& no muslim brotherhood)
this could work....
currently receiving 'twitter support' by the pro-Assad activists...
wait and see...
bottomline: COME HOME

so much for that idea... :rolleyes:

Brasco_Aad
Egypt to decline any request by real Donald Trump to send troops to Syria:


'The Egyptian Armed Forces r not mercenaries & cannot be leased or ordered by foreign states
to deploy forces in a certain area.
We support the unity of Syria & its national army'


Egypt
Egypt to decline any request by US to send troops to Syria: former intelligence official
http://www.egyptindependent.com/egypt-to-decline-any-request-by-us-to-send-troops-to-syria-former-intelligence-official/

[Swordsmyth]

so much for that idea... :rolleyes:

Brasco_Aad
Egypt to decline any request by real Donald Trump to send troops to Syria:


'The Egyptian Armed Forces r not mercenaries & cannot be leased or ordered by foreign states
to deploy forces in a certain area.
We support the unity of Syria & its national army'


Egypt
Egypt to decline any request by US to send troops to Syria: former intelligence official
http://www.egyptindependent.com/egypt-to-decline-any-request-by-us-to-send-troops-to-syria-former-intelligence-official/

I hope we leave soon but a horrible idea just occurred to me, what if nobody else will take our place so Israel volunteers?

[Swordsmyth]

Update (10:30 pm ET): Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir said on local TV Tuesday that Saudi Arabia would consider sending troops to Syria if they were part of a coalition, per Sputnik. (https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804171063652269-saudi-troops-syria/)
"We've proposed America to send forces of the Islamic Coalition to Syria in order to fight against terrorism," he said.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-17/white-house-hoping-raise-multinational-arab-fighting-force-replace-us-troops-syria

[TheCount]

Q predicted it as well:

Oh, shit, well if Q predicted it...

[pao]

I hope we leave soon but a horrible idea just occurred to me, what if nobody else will take our place so Israel volunteers?

Egypt should accept, take as much territory as possible for which they can assume responsibility, and then when the U.S. leaves, they can hand it all over to SAA control and go back home.

[Swordsmyth]

Egypt should accept, take as much territory as possible for which they can assume responsibility, and then when the U.S. leaves, they can hand it all over to SAA control and go back home.

Not a bad idea but they would have to be ready to deal with imperial retaliation if they did.

[pao]

Not a bad idea but they would have to be ready to deal with imperial retaliation if they did.

I suspect Russia would be interested in another friend in the ME, seems like they have interests there and may be willing to make some additional money on their air defense sales.

[pcosmar]

Update (10:30 pm ET): Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir said on local TV Tuesday that Saudi Arabia would consider sending troops to Syria if they were part of a coalition, per Sputnik. (https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804171063652269-saudi-troops-syria/)
"We've proposed America to send forces of the Islamic Coalition to Syria in order to fight against terrorism," he said.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-17/white-house-hoping-raise-multinational-arab-fighting-force-replace-us-troops-syria

and do you think that is a good thing?

I find it both disturbing and not unexpected.

[Swordsmyth]

and do you think that is a good thing?
Not at all, only two things would be worse: Us staying or Israel taking over.


I find it both disturbing and not unexpected.
Same here.

[Raginfridus]

and do you think that is a good thing?

I find it both disturbing and not unexpected.

Its great.. if we freeze all foreign aid too.

It'd be tough titties for Syria, and we'll never stop funding and equiping wahabbis and zionazis, but I can dream.

[pcosmar]

Its great.. if we freeze all foreign aid too.

It'd be tough titties for Syria, and we'll never stop funding and equiping wahabbis and zionazis, but I can dream.

I am trying to understand Israel shooting itself in the head like that. but it may work into a plan.

nothing good will come from it though.

[Raginfridus]

I am trying to understand Israel shooting itself in the head like that. but it may work into a plan.

nothing good will come from it though.Yeah. Everything Israel does is done according to the rationale of what is best for the State. The Israelis themselves don't even matter, its all about the State of Israel. They wed themselves with all kinds of scum just to succeed in a narrow sense, but their own warfare-welfare state is going to be the end of them.

National Socialism is toxic to the nation in every timeline.

[Swordsmyth]

Blackwater founder Erik Prince says he has been informally contacted by Arab officials looking to marshal a multi-national force in Syria which would be able to fill any "security vacuum" left by a United States withdrawal - similar to the one which allowed ISIS to flourish when President Obama pulled US troops out of Iraq.

An Arab coalition of Sunni-dominated governments exists to combat ISIS and other terrorist groups. The 41 member Islamic Military Counter Terrorism Coalition was formed in December 2015, though it wouldn't hold its first meeting until nearly two years later. It's mandate is to fight terrorism in Shia-dominated Iraq, Libya, Egypt and Afghanistan - along with Syria. In November 2017, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, 31, announced that he would use the coalition to "wipe terrorists from earth (https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/885147/Saudi-Arabia-terrorism-isis-Iran-muslim-attack-plan-middle-east)."

Speaking at a summit of defence ministers from across 41 majority-Muslim countries he spoke of a need for a “pan-Islamic united front” against terrorism.
He said: “In past years, terrorism has been functioning in all of our countries… with no coordination among national authorities.
“That ends today, with this alliance.” -express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/885147/Saudi-Arabia-terrorism-isis-Iran-muslim-attack-plan-middle-east)
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/11817246-0c15-4f37-a68a-9bac2fd9f2fc_16x9_788x442_0.jpg
The Muslim alliance and their first official meeting under bin Salman two days after Egypt's worst terrorism incident in which 25-30 attackers reportedly (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-egypt-security/gunmen-in-egypt-mosque-attack-carried-islamic-state-flag-prosecutor-says-idUSKBN1DO1AN) brandishing an Islamic State flag assaulted a mosque, killing 305 including 27 children.
That said, the new plan (which may include Erik Prince) would combine manpower, military equipment and funding to focus specifically on Syria.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-18/blackwater-founder-may-train-arab-forces-dominate-syria

[goldenequity]

They better hurry up... summer is coming... and so are the S300s
and 4 air cargo shipments per day/Latakia
and steady Naval cargo by the tonne at Tartus...
with 1 purpose: to take back their oil.
Erik Prince won't believe what's coming to the Euphrates in a couple months.
The SAA would like nothing better than to have Saudis lined up on the other side.

[Swordsmyth]

They better hurry up... summer is coming... and so are the S300s
and 4 air cargo shipments per day/Latakia
and steady Naval cargo by the tonne at Tartus...
with 1 purpose: to take back their oil.
Erik Prince won't believe what's coming to the Euphrates in a couple months.
The SAA would like nothing better than to have Saudis lined up on the other side.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LMH0f2CpL8

[goldenequity]

They better hurry up... summer is coming... and so are the S300s
and 4 air cargo shipments per day/Latakia
and steady Naval cargo by the tonne at Tartus...
with 1 purpose: to take back their oil.
Erik Prince won't believe what's coming to the Euphrates in a couple months.
The SAA would like nothing better than to have Saudis lined up on the other side.

.

Syrian Army deploys new 500-mm rocket artillery system for future operations
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-deploys-new-500-mm-rocket-artillery-system-for-future-operations-details/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/g1000.jpg

A new rocket artillery system – natively produced by Syrian military industry – (on T-72 Russian Chassis)
has been approved for service with the the Syrian Army following the completion of field tests.

According to sources, the new weapon is called the Goulan-1000 (seen above),
the latest model of the Syrian Army’s Goulan self-propelled rocket artillery series.

As far as basic known specifications go, the Goulan-1000 posses a three-tube traversable launcher (placed atop an tracked armored chassis)
that fires 500-mm rockets – each rocket is estimated to deliver a punch exceeding four hundred kilograms [half ton] of high-explosive.

The new artillery system is to enter service with rocket detachments of the Syrian Army’s 4th Mechanized Division
and may be used in the upcoming government operation against Islamic State forces in southern Damascus.

[goldenequity]

Syria hands over to Russia two unexploded cruise missiles found after US strike
http://tass.com/world/1000645
The missiles were found in good condition by the Syrian military

"Two cruise missiles that did not detonate during the US missile strike on Syria overnight to April 14 were found by the Syrian military.
Both are in rather good condition. These missiles were handed over to Russian officer the day before yesterday (April 17)," the source said,
adding that both "were sent to Russia by plane yesterday (April 18)."

(it would have been better to send them to the White House, care of Dunford w/ a spicy note. :D

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Lockheed Martin ‘Ready to Assist’ With More Missiles for US After Syria Strike
https://sputniknews.com/military/201804191063702745-lockheed-martin-ready-missiles-strike/

(they give moneyback refunds on duds?)

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BBC
Syria war: The online activists pushing conspiracy theories
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-43745629?ocid=socialflow_twitter
(Vanessa Beeley is mocked)

[goldenequity]

Syria hands over to Russia two unexploded cruise missiles found after US strike
http://tass.com/world/1000645
The missiles were found in good condition by the Syrian military

"Two cruise missiles that did not detonate during the US missile strike on Syria overnight to April 14 were found by the Syrian military.
Both are in rather good condition. These missiles were handed over to Russian officer the day before yesterday (April 17)," the source said,
adding that both "were sent to Russia by plane yesterday (April 18)."

(it would have been better to send them to the White House, care of Dunford w/ a spicy note. :D

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Lockheed Martin ‘Ready to Assist’ With More Missiles for US After Syria Strike
https://sputniknews.com/military/201804191063702745-lockheed-martin-ready-missiles-strike/

(they give moneyback refunds on duds?)


ANALYSIS OF TWO CRUISE MISSILES, OTHER COALITION AMMUNITION BROUGHT FROM SYRIA WILL BE USED TO IMPROVE RUSSIAN AIR DEFENSE AND EW SYSTEMS - MILITARY SOURCE
Interfax

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbHHVdrDG_k


Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova:

“We’ve found confirmations that the real aim of ‘the three’ was to
give terrorists a break,
restore their strength,
prolong the bloodshed on the Syrian soil,
and impede the process of the political settlement,”.

“It is difficult to even comment on this fact in any way,
as it is so frightening and undermining the belief in the humanity of certain countries,”