Trump: "We're Coming Out Of Syria Very Soon; Others Can Take Care Of It Now"

[Swordsmyth]

President Donald Trump made a surprise announcement on Thursday afternoon, stating during a speech in Richfield, Ohio dedicated to Trump's infrastructure week, that US forces will be withdrawing from Syria, citing the defeat of ISIS and the need to defend US borders and rebuild crumbling infrastructure: "We're coming out of Syria very soon. Let the other people take care of it now." Others like Russia perhaps?
The US spent $7 trillion in the Middle East, Trump said, describing how the US would build schools only for insurgents to destroy them, while there was no funding to build schools in Ohio: "We build a school, they blow it up. We rebuild the school, they haven’t blown it up yet, but they will."

Pres. Trump: "We'll be coming out of Syria very soon. Let the other people take care of it now...We're going to have 100% of the caliphate, as they call it —sometimes referred to as land. We're taking it all back." pic.twitter.com/N9cPYkS6pk (https://t.co/N9cPYkS6pk)
— Evan McMurry (@evanmcmurry) March 29, 2018 (https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/status/979429712299638784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) The president also pointed out the “wall” and 32,000 US troops guarding the border between North and South Korea, while the US border with Mexico was not likewise protected.
“Is there something a little bit wrong with that?” Trump asked the crowd.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-29/trump-were-coming-out-syria-very-soon-others-can-take-care-it-now

[RonZeplin]

Depends what your definition of is very soon, is.

[pao]

...said as the U.S. continues to construct military bases throughout Syria.

[charrob]

President Donald Trump made a surprise announcement on Thursday afternoon, stating during a speech in Richfield, Ohio dedicated to Trump's infrastructure week, that US forces will be withdrawing from Syria, citing the defeat of ISIS and the need to defend US borders and rebuild crumbling infrastructure: "We're coming out of Syria very soon. Let the other people take care of it now." Others like Russia perhaps?
The US spent $7 trillion in the Middle East, Trump said, describing how the US would build schools only for insurgents to destroy them, while there was no funding to build schools in Ohio: "We build a school, they blow it up. We rebuild the school, they haven’t blown it up yet, but they will."

Pres. Trump: "We'll be coming out of Syria very soon. Let the other people take care of it now...We're going to have 100% of the caliphate, as they call it —sometimes referred to as land. We're taking it all back." pic.twitter.com/N9cPYkS6pk (https://t.co/N9cPYkS6pk)
— Evan McMurry (@evanmcmurry) March 29, 2018 (https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/status/979429712299638784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) The president also pointed out the “wall” and 32,000 US troops guarding the border between North and South Korea, while the US border with Mexico was not likewise protected.
“Is there something a little bit wrong with that?” Trump asked the crowd.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-29/trump-were-coming-out-syria-very-soon-others-can-take-care-it-now

Probably not Russia. Zerohedge had an article awhile back saying that Trump was going to give eastern Syria, ie. all U.S. occupied land east of the Euphrates, to Saudi Arabia for $4 billion dollars. Apparently that was supposed to be discussed when bin Salman recently went to the White House. Not sure of the results.

Also, why would the U.S. currently be in the process of building an actual garrison (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-21/us-building-military-garrison-control-largest-syrian-oilfield) in southeast Syria on top the Omar oil fields (Syria's largest oil fields) if Trump plans to withdraw soon?

Would certainly love to see this happen, but i have my doubts.

[Zippyjuan]

Putin will withdraw Russian troops as soon as 2016. War is over. Mission accomplished.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/14/vladimir-putin-orders-withdrawal-russian-troops-syria


Vladimir Putin orders Russian forces to begin withdrawal from Syria

Tue 15 Mar 2016 03.11 EDT

Russian president says soldiers should begin pulling out of country as military intervention has largely achieved its aims

The Russian president, Vladimir Putin, has abruptly declared that he is withdrawing the majority of Russian troops from Syria, saying the six-month military intervention had largely achieved its objective.

The news on Monday, relayed personally to the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, in a telephone call from Putin, followed a meeting in the Kremlin with the Russian defence and foreign ministers. He said the pullout, scaling back an intervention that began at the end of September, is due to start on Tuesday.

His move was clearly designed to coincide with the start of Syrian peace talks in Geneva and will be seen as a sign that Russia believes it has done enough to protect Assad’s regime from collapse.

Putin said he had ordered his diplomatic staff to step up their efforts to achieve a settlement to end the civil war which has cost at least 250,000 lives and is due to enter its sixth year on Tuesday.

Western diplomatic sources were both sceptical and startled by Putin’s unexpected and mercurial move. “We will have to wait and see what this represents. It is Putin. He has announced similar concessions in the past and nothing materialised,” a diplomat at the talks in Geneva told the Guardian.




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[shakey1]

will believe it when I see it.

[Swordsmyth]

will believe it when I see it.

^^^THIS^^^

Stranger things have happened though.

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPfB3eRX130

[dannno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhFHIlwCSq0

[nikcers]

Depends what your definition of is very soon, is.

Depends what your definition of the
other people

[TheCount]

Depends what your definition of is very soon, is.

Also depends on your definition of we

I presume that the 'others' who can take care of it will be doing so with US funding, US weapons, and under the protection of US aircraft and US airstrikes.

[dannno]

Depends what your definition of is very soon, is.

Being grateful once in a while is a sign of good character.

We could be 99.99% of the way to a fully voluntary, libertarian society under Donald Trump and you would be all like, "Ya, but we still have parking tickets!!! Parking tickets!! We may as well have full blown socialism with Hillary leading the way and involved in 10 different wars because parking tickets are anti-liberty!!"

Everybody is acting all surprised, but I told you guys about 6 months to a year after he got in office and Trump was going to start getting sick of this shit and start bringing troops home. That wasn't a guess, that how people like Trump are. If you have ever known successful people in your life and how they operate, you would know that too.

[Swordsmyth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhFHIlwCSq0

Don't count your chicks before they're hatched.

[Raginfridus]

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/ALLPOLITICS/10/28/mission.accomplished/vstory.bush.banner.afp.jpg

[RonZeplin]

Being grateful once in a while is a sign of good character.

We could be 99.99% of the way to a fully voluntary, libertarian society under Donald Trump and you would be all like, "Ya, but we still have parking tickets!!! Parking tickets!! We may as well have full blown socialism with Hillary leading the way and involved in 10 different wars because parking tickets are anti-liberty!!"

Everybody is acting all surprised, but I told you guys about 6 months to a year after he got in office and Trump was going to start getting sick of this shit and start bringing troops home. That wasn't a guess, that how people like Trump are. If you have ever known successful people in your life and how they operate, you would know that too.

I've never seen so much winning, it's all too much.

[Occam's Banana]

We could be 99.99% of the way to a fully voluntary, libertarian society under Donald Trump [...]

https://media.giphy.com/media/L4TYWQn8rALRu/giphy.gif

[dannno]

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/ALLPOLITICS/10/28/mission.accomplished/vstory.bush.banner.afp.jpg

Uh, ya, I don't see where Trump declared victory, at all, nor will he.

[TheCount]

Uh, ya, I don't see where Trump declared victory, at all, nor will he.

He didn't declare victory, you did.

[dannno]

He didn't declare victory, you did.

Well admittedly bringing the troops home is a victory in a sense, but I think we can all admit that. Nobody is going to say we were victorious in Syria, not Trump, not nobody.

[Zippyjuan]

Trump only says "soon". Nobody else in his Foreign Policy people seem to know anything about it. Trump does make big claims and then later back off from them.

http://6abc.com/news/trump-signals-withdrawal-of-us-troops-from-syria-surprising-pentagon-and-state-dept/3279853/


Trump signals withdrawal of US troops from Syria, surprising Pentagon and State Dept

President Donald Trump appeared to signal the withdrawal 'very soon" of U.S. troops from Syria on Thursday, surprising the Pentagon and State Department.

"By the way, we're knocking the hell out of ISIS," Trump told a crowd in Ohio during a speech on infrastructure spending. "We're coming out of Syria very soon. Let the other people take care of it now, very soon. Very soon, we're coming out."

The approximately 2,000 U.S. troops inside Syria have been working alongside Syrian Democratic Forces, reclaiming territory from ISIS to include the city of Raqqa - the terrorist organization's once self-proclaimed capital in Syria.

In addition, the State Department and U.S. International Agency for Development have dozens of officials working on the ground to stabilize cities and towns after ISIS's defeat. They work with international partners on demining, rubble removal, and restoring services like water, electricity, and schools and hospitals.

Defense Secretary James Mattis and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson have said repeatedly that those troops will remain and the civilian presence will increase as the U.S. works to prevent a new terror group from forming.

But Trump's suggestion then that the U.S. could leave "very soon" seemed to catch spokespeople at the Pentagon and State Department off guard.

A Pentagon spokesperson referred questions about the president's comment to the White House. State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert said she was unaware of any new policy to withdraw U.S. forces.

A spokesperson for the White House National Security Council did not respond to a request to comment.

The comment also contradicts how the president himself has spoken about American military action - as he has repeatedly insisted the U.S. not set timelines or telegraph actions to the enemy.

"America's enemies must never know our plans, or believe they can wait us out," Trump said at Fort Myer, Va., in August while announcing a new strategy for the war in Afghanistan.

Mattis has made the same argument, writing in a letter to Congress in January, "We do not have a timeline-based approach to our presence in either Iraq or Syria."

Withdrawing "prematurely," he added, would only give ISIS the opportunity "to regenerate capabilities and reestablish local control of territory... We, along with the Coalition and our partners, remain committed to ISIS's permanent defeat."

While the U.S.-led coalition has made significant progress against ISIS, the group has not been destroyed completely. Meanwhile, Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad continues to wage a civil war on his own people - backed by the Russian government.

Mattis, Tillerson, and U.S. special envoy to the U.S.-led coalition Brett McGurk have all said the U.S. would stay in Syria until ISIS has been defeated and a political process is underway - neither of which is currently true.

"Important work remains to guarantee the lasting defeat of these violent extremists," Chief Pentagon spokesperson Dana White said in Thursday's Pentagon briefing prior to Trump's comments. "Our commitment to win must outlast the so-called physical caliphate, and the warped ideas that guide the calculated cruelty of ISIS."

[dannno]

Nobody else in his Foreign Policy people seem to know anything about it.


They didn't know anything about him encouraging South Korea to make peace with North Korea either, but he did it, and it worked.

[goldenequity]

Probably not Russia. Zerohedge had an article awhile back saying that Trump was going to give eastern Syria, ie. all U.S. occupied land east of the Euphrates, to Saudi Arabia for $4 billion dollars. Apparently that was supposed to be discussed when bin Salman recently went to the White House. Not sure of the results.

Also, why would the U.S. currently be in the process of building an actual garrison (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-21/us-building-military-garrison-control-largest-syrian-oilfield) in southeast Syria on top the Omar oil fields (Syria's largest oil fields) if Trump plans to withdraw soon?

Would certainly love to see this happen, but i have my doubts.

My assumption is it's now or never...
As soon as E. Ghouta and Daraa are subdued
the 150,000+ combat hardened Sovereign Syrian Troops and allies
will be headed straight at the Euphrates valley
this summer
with LOTS of 'air defense'.
to take back their oil.

The unloading of cargo ships in Tartus and 2-3 cargo planes PER DAY at Latakia are not full of MREs yunno.

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[Zippyjuan]

They didn't know anything about him encouraging South Korea to make peace with North Korea either, but he did it, and it worked.

Not yet- though they are talking about talking.

[Raginfridus]

They didn't know anything about him encouraging South Korea to make peace with North Korea either, but he did it, and it worked.He did?

[dannno]

He did?

Ya, can you believe it, the media barely reported it.. I mean, they wrote a story that kinda snaked around the issue, and it never became part of the narrative.

http://thehill.com/policy/international/369992-trump-requested-credit-for-pushing-north-south-korea-to-talk-report


It was funny because a few days later Kelly Anne Conway said that the talks between the North and South were "unsanctioned"...

[Raginfridus]

Ya, can you believe it, the media barely reported it.. I mean, they wrote a story that kinda snaked around the issue, and it never became part of the narrative.

http://thehill.com/policy/international/369992-trump-requested-credit-for-pushing-north-south-korea-to-talk-report


It was funny because a few days later Kelly Anne Conway said that the talks between the North and South were "unsanctioned"...

Yes, big credit is the only credit Trump will take. :D

[goldenequity]

Note: When this FIRST hit twitter/news hounds....
it was MACRON alone who said 'France will not allow Turkey to proceed with its plans'

Hours later it became this:

Le Figaro: France and U.S have made the decision to stop Turkish advance in Syria. Message conveyed to Erdogan via French ambassador in Ankara
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2018/03/29/01003-20180329ARTFIG00386-la-france-envoie-des-renforts-au-kurdistan-syrien.php

http://i.f1g.fr/media/figaro/680x382_crop/2018/03/29/XVM12511cc6-3388-11e8-9bae-c8ee943e46f3.jpg


Brasco_Aad.
Trump and Macron to fight Russian/Iranian/Turkish cooperation in Syria.



I see what they did. :cool:
no coincidence this scheme was deployed on the SAME DAY Trump announces 'We're getting out.'
Globalists say: 'No you're not.'
Macron UNILATERALLY decided France would put ITSELF in harm's way... to obligate Trump/NATO.
clever move.

[Swordsmyth]

Note: When this FIRST hit twitter/news hounds....
it was MACRON alone who said 'France will not allow Turkey to proceed with its plans'

Hours later it became this:

Le Figaro: France and U.S have made the decision to stop Turkish advance in Syria. Message conveyed to Erdogan via French ambassador in Ankara
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2018/03/29/01003-20180329ARTFIG00386-la-france-envoie-des-renforts-au-kurdistan-syrien.php

http://i.f1g.fr/media/figaro/680x382_crop/2018/03/29/XVM12511cc6-3388-11e8-9bae-c8ee943e46f3.jpg


Brasco_Aad.
Trump and Macron to fight Russian/Iranian/Turkish cooperation in Syria.



I see what they did. :cool:
no coincidence this scheme was deployed on the SAME DAY Trump announces 'We're getting out.'
Globalists say: 'No you're not.'
Macron UNILATERALLY decided France would put ITSELF in harm's way... to obligate Trump/NATO.
clever move.

Since it's an intra-Nato fight Trump should announce that France is on it's own.

[goldenequity]

more background

French President meets with Kurdish PYD delegation amid Turkish disapproval
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/french-president-meets-with-kurdish-pyd-delegation-amid-turkish-disapproval/

French President Emmanuel Macron held a meeting with a Kurdish PYD delegation in the capital city of Paris on Thursday,
the Reuters News Agency reported this evening.

The PYD delegation called on the French President to use his influence
in order to derail Turkey from launching anymore military operations in northern Syria.

“Important announcements are expected from France,” the representative office added.

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France to send troops to Manbij to block Turkish invasion: report
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/france-to-send-troops-to-manbij-to-block-turkish-invasion-report/

According to a report from the France-based Marianne Magazine, Macron vowed to send the French military
to the key city of Manbij, following threats from the Turkish regime regarding a possible invasion.

“France will send troops to the town of Manbij, alongside U.S. forces, in order to block the Turkish offensive on the city,”
the Marianne report added.

[Brian4Liberty]

President Donald Trump made a surprise announcement on Thursday afternoon, stating during a speech in Richfield, Ohio dedicated to Trump's infrastructure week, that US forces will be withdrawing from Syria, citing the defeat of ISIS and the need to defend US borders and rebuild crumbling infrastructure: "We're coming out of Syria very soon. Let the other people take care of it now." Others like Russia perhaps?
The US spent $7 trillion in the Middle East, Trump said, describing how the US would build schools only for insurgents to destroy them, while there was no funding to build schools in Ohio: "We build a school, they blow it up. We rebuild the school, they haven’t blown it up yet, but they will."

Pres. Trump: "We'll be coming out of Syria very soon. Let the other people take care of it now...We're going to have 100% of the caliphate, as they call it —sometimes referred to as land. We're taking it all back." pic.twitter.com/N9cPYkS6pk (https://t.co/N9cPYkS6pk)
— Evan McMurry (@evanmcmurry) March 29, 2018 (https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/status/979429712299638784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) The president also pointed out the “wall” and 32,000 US troops guarding the border between North and South Korea, while the US border with Mexico was not likewise protected.
“Is there something a little bit wrong with that?” Trump asked the crowd.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-29/trump-were-coming-out-syria-very-soon-others-can-take-care-it-now

This story was covered on the network nightly news (ABC?). They made a big deal about how no one else knew about it, and infered that others had contradicted Trump after he said it. Ended by saying he can't do it, and it would be stupid to telegraph it.

[Zippyjuan]

Trump then: https://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/07/trump-i-dont-give-a-specific-isis-plan-because-i-dont-want-enemies-to-know-it.html


Trump: I don't give a specific ISIS plan because I don't want enemies to know it

Trump now:

"I won and am going home! Soon! Promise!"

[Swordsmyth]

more background

French President meets with Kurdish PYD delegation amid Turkish disapproval
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/french-president-meets-with-kurdish-pyd-delegation-amid-turkish-disapproval/

French President Emmanuel Macron held a meeting with a Kurdish PYD delegation in the capital city of Paris on Thursday,
the Reuters News Agency reported this evening.

The PYD delegation called on the French President to use his influence
in order to derail Turkey from launching anymore military operations in northern Syria.

“Important announcements are expected from France,” the representative office added.

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France to send troops to Manbij to block Turkish invasion: report
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/france-to-send-troops-to-manbij-to-block-turkish-invasion-report/

According to a report from the France-based Marianne Magazine, Macron vowed to send the French military
to the key city of Manbij, following threats from the Turkish regime regarding a possible invasion.

“France will send troops to the town of Manbij, alongside U.S. forces, in order to block the Turkish offensive on the city,”
the Marianne report added.

Are the French the "others" who can take care of it now?

[goldenequity]

Are the French the "others" who can take care of it now?

Trump is Command-in-Chief.
(that is all I have to say :D )


no wait... :)

What I tried to show in the above posts
is that there is a 'window' of opportunity to get the fuck out..
the gauntlet (via france) now lays at his feet.
hahaha... I'm SURE it pissed him off.... knowing Trump (I don't)...
he needs to just put on his CiC hat and DECLARE (not just tweet).

[Origanalist]

Being grateful once in a while is a sign of good character.

We could be 99.99% of the way to a fully voluntary, libertarian society under Donald Trump and you would be all like, "Ya, but we still have parking tickets!!! Parking tickets!! We may as well have full blown socialism with Hillary leading the way and involved in 10 different wars because parking tickets are anti-liberty!!"

Everybody is acting all surprised, but I told you guys about 6 months to a year after he got in office and Trump was going to start getting sick of this shit and start bringing troops home. That wasn't a guess, that how people like Trump are. If you have ever known successful people in your life and how they operate, you would know that too.

You so funny.

[Swordsmyth]

Trump is Command-in-Chief.
(that is all I have to say :D )


no wait... :)

What I tried to show in the above posts
is that there is a 'window' of opportunity to get the $#@! out..
the gauntlet (via france) now lays at his feet.
hahaha... I'm SURE it pissed him off.... knowing Trump (I don't)...
he needs to just put on his CiC hat and DECLARE (not just tweet).

France is NATO and Turkey is NATO so there isn't a NATO obligation if they fight, we should declare France is is volunteering to take care of things and pull out.

[Anti Globalist]

Something tells me a year from now we'll still have military bases there.

[Origanalist]

Something tells me a year from now we'll still have military bases there.

And dannno will still be posting that trailer park boys video.

[Raginfridus]

Are the French the "others" who can take care of it now?

I know; let's give Syria back to the Syrians!

[Anti Globalist]

And dannno will still be posting that trailer park boys video.
We'll have to wait till Trumps second term. That's when he'll really start to MAGA.

[Swordsmyth]

I know; let's give Syria back to the Syrians!

That's what I would do, I'm just trying to guess what Trump is doing.

[Raginfridus]

That's what I would do, I'm just trying to guess what Trump is doing.Syria would be preferred, but as long as we leave completely - all aid of any kind removed too - I'm ok with the French. If we leave it to Saud and Israel, we might as well be digging in.

[Swordsmyth]

U.S. President Donald Trump has told advisers that he wants U.S. troops to withdraw from Syria and hand over security to countries in the region, Reuters reported March 30.

More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situation-report/us-president-wants-early-exit-syria

[nikcers]

U.S. President Donald Trump has told advisers that he wants U.S. troops to withdraw from Syria and hand over security to countries in the region, Reuters reported March 30.

More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situation-report/us-president-wants-early-exit-syria
Trump is being ambiguous about other countries because he is talking about VSO's.


The Trump Administration’s “Department of Defense Budget Fiscal Year (FY) 2019” (http://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/Documents/defbudget/fy2019/army/ctef/PB19_CTEF.pdf) funding-request to Congress calls for “III. Requirements in Syria” of:
a Coalition campaign to degrade, dismantle, and ultimately defeat ISIS in Syria. One key element of DoD’s strategy to defeat ISIS is to train, equip, sustain, and enable elements of the Vetted Syrian Opposition (VSO) eligible for support under current law. By the end of FY 2018, these forces are projected to total approximately 60,000 to 65,000; 30,000 to conduct ongoing combat missions against ISIS in the MERV, and 35,000 Internal Security Forces in liberated areas (to provide approximately 20 police/security forces for every 1,000 civilians).

[Pauls' Revere]

Is this just part of a plan to create a vacuum, wait and watch what happens and then go in bigger when things get worse?

[nikcers]

Is this just part of a plan to create a vacuum, wait and watch what happens and then go in bigger when things get worse?
There will be no vacuum, by other countries he means greater Isreal, they have been funding every opposition group they can against Syria and Russia has ramped up operations in Syria, so it limits the possibilities of Americans killing Russians again, its not good headlines for Trump. Plus they can spin a bunch of fake news and disinformation with the ambiguity.

[Ender]

There will be no vacuum, by other countries he means greater Isreal, they have been funding every opposition group they can against Syria and Russia has ramped up operations in Syria, so it limits the possibilities of Americans killing Russians again, its not good headlines for Trump. Plus they can spin a bunch of fake news and disinformation with the ambiguity.

While they blame Iran. :rolleyes:

[goldenequity]

Trump Freezes Funds for Syrian Recovery, Signaling Pullback
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-freezes-funds-for-syrian-recovery-signaling-pullback-1522449642
►http://archive.is/9gyIP
►http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/30/trump-freezing-syria-funds-in-signal-us-pullback-report-says.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

Bin Salman just said: "Assad is staying, I hope he won't be a puppet of Iranian regime".
("Translation: we are ready to sell our oil to Putin's new oil cartel, which can sell to third parties in PETRO YUAN
Saudi Retards figure out there is no way to sell their oil to China than in PETRO YUAN via 3rd parties..
they keep their mouths shut.
ARAMCO=depleted, nobody wants to buy it, OPEC=dead, Say hello to Putin's new oil cartel.. THE END.")

Within Syria
Saudi crown prince: Assad will remain in power, we hope he will not turn into a puppet in the hands of Iran ... Major shift in Saudi policy

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Reuters
UK must bring home 'just over 50' of its diplomats from Russia: Foreign Ministry
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-russia/uk-must-bring-home-just-over-50-of-its-diplomats-from-russia-foreign-ministry-idUKKBN1H707O

Russia has already retaliated in kind against Britain and ejected 23 British diplomats..

now Russia has told Britain it must send home “just over 50” more of its diplomats in a worsening standoff with the West, to reach parity of staff..

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Furious China ramps up support for Russia on Skripal, calls West’s actions “outrageous”
http://theduran.com/furious-china-ramps-support-russia-skripal/

Global Times – unofficial English language organ of China’s ruling Communist Party – has published a scorching editorial savaging the West’s bullying of Russia over the Skripal case.

The editorial notes the West’s disregard of basic courtesies and of due process, and warns that other countries – including implicitly China – may one day find themselves in the same crosshairs for this sort of attack.

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Mobile bakery opens in Harasta after experimentation period, it produces 5 tons of bread daily, fresh bread for locals for 1st time in 6 yrs of jihaddi occupation (Nikki? U like some bred??)

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Happy Easter :)

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[EBounding]

These are Wonderful Words.

[juleswin]

Trump then: https://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/07/trump-i-dont-give-a-specific-isis-plan-because-i-dont-want-enemies-to-know-it.html



Trump now:

"I won and am going home! Soon! Promise!"

And he also said ISIS has been defeated and on the run in Iraq and Syria. So essentially he is talking to a dead enemy. I know this must really pain you that Trump put out the idea of ending the illegal occupation of Syria

[goldenequity]

REPORTS OF MULTIPLE AIRSTRIKES ON IRANIAN AND HEZBOLLAH JOINT CONVOY BY ISRAELI AIRCRAFT OPERATING OVER DARAA, SYRIA

will update... (nvr 'trust' twitter...) :rolleyes:

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update

SANAEnglishOfficial

SANA correspondent in Daraa: No truth to reports by media outlets about Israeli attack on Syrian Arab Army sites



bored twitter twats

[Raginfridus]

Trump Freezes Funds for Syrian Recovery, Signaling Pullback
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-freezes-funds-for-syrian-recovery-signaling-pullback-1522449642
►http://archive.is/9gyIP
►http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/30/trump-freezing-syria-funds-in-signal-us-pullback-report-says.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

Bin Salman just said: "Assad is staying, I hope he won't be a puppet of Iranian regime".
("Translation: we are ready to sell our oil to Putin's new oil cartel, which can sell to third parties in PETRO YUAN
Saudi Retards figure out there is no way to sell their oil to China than in PETRO YUAN via 3rd parties..
they keep their mouths shut.
ARAMCO=depleted, nobody wants to buy it, OPEC=dead, Say hello to Putin's new oil cartel.. THE END.")

Within Syria
Saudi crown prince: Assad will remain in power, we hope he will not turn into a puppet in the hands of Iran ... Major shift in Saudi policy

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Reuters
UK must bring home 'just over 50' of its diplomats from Russia: Foreign Ministry
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-russia/uk-must-bring-home-just-over-50-of-its-diplomats-from-russia-foreign-ministry-idUKKBN1H707O

Russia has already retaliated in kind against Britain and ejected 23 British diplomats..

now Russia has told Britain it must send home “just over 50” more of its diplomats in a worsening standoff with the West, to reach parity of staff..

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Furious China ramps up support for Russia on Skripal, calls West’s actions “outrageous”
http://theduran.com/furious-china-ramps-support-russia-skripal/

Global Times – unofficial English language organ of China’s ruling Communist Party – has published a scorching editorial savaging the West’s bullying of Russia over the Skripal case.

The editorial notes the West’s disregard of basic courtesies and of due process, and warns that other countries – including implicitly China – may one day find themselves in the same crosshairs for this sort of attack.

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LIVE: Live from outside US consulate in St. Petersburg following shutdown announcement


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NifoJBAYJ5c&feature=youtu.be

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Mobile bakery opens in Harasta after experimentation period, it produces 5 tons of bread daily, fresh bread for locals for 1st time in 6 yrs of jihaddi occupation (Nikki? U like some bred??)

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Happy Easter :)

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Beware the Levin of the Nikki Haleys.

[Swordsmyth]

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman wants the U.S. military to maintain a presence in Syria, despite President Donald Trump’s declaration (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-infrastructure-initiative/) that American forces will be pulled from the war-torn country in the near future.
“We believe American troops should stay for at least the mid-term, if not the long-term,” he told TIME Thursday in a wide-ranging interview.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/saudi-crown-prince-says-u-193024933.html

[goldenequity]

moved

[Swordsmyth]

EndGameWW3
US blocks UN Security Council statement on Gaza violence
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/171260-180401-us-blocks-un-security-council-statement-on-gaza-violence

the proposed statement,
called for an "independent and transparent investigation" of the violence,
expressed "grave concern at the situation at the border."
reaffirmed "the right to peaceful protest" and expressed the council's "sorrow at the loss of innocent Palestinian lives."
called "for respect for international human rights law and international humanitarian law, including protection of civilians
called upon all sides to exercise restraint and prevent a further escalation,
and stressed the need to promote peace between Israel and the Palestinians based on a two-state solution.

Shouldn't this have it's own thread?

[goldenequity]

Shouldn't this have it's own thread?
done.

[nikcers]

Syrian opposition leaders are asking for the United States to work with both the Kurds and the Sunni Arab local leaders to consolidate control in liberated areas and help organize local governance. Those who have fought the Islamic State don’t want to live under the rule of Assad and Iran, said Mouaz Moustafa, executive director of the Syrian Emergency Task Force, a nongovernmental organization that works with the Syrian opposition.

“It’s incredibly important that with all these oil-rich areas … we don’t end up in a situation where we do have to pull out and there is some sort of deal that allows Iran to essentially take the land, the oil, and these areas, and empower their land bridge that they’ve been building inside the country,” he said. “We took the oil. We’ve got to keep the oil.”

[acptulsa]

Syrian opposition leaders are asking for the United States to work with both the Kurds and the Sunni Arab local leaders to consolidate control in liberated areas and help organize local governance. Those who have fought the Islamic State don’t want to live under the rule of Assad and Iran, said Mouaz Moustafa, executive director of the Syrian Emergency Task Force, a nongovernmental organization that works with the Syrian opposition.

“It’s incredibly important that with all these oil-rich areas … we don’t end up in a situation where we do have to pull out and there is some sort of deal that allows Iran to essentially take the land, the oil, and these areas, and empower their land bridge that they’ve been building inside the country,” he said. “We took the oil. We’ve got to keep the oil.”

Wasn't that Trump's campaign promise--if he invades, he'll take the resources and get out? I guess he has not yet figured out that oil fields are not portable.

Or maybe he just assumes his supporters haven't figured that out yet.

[nikcers]

Wasn't that Trump's campaign promise--if he invades, he'll take the resources and get out? I guess he has not yet figured out that oil fields are not portable.

Or maybe he just assumes his supporters haven't figured that out yet.
Trump: I don't give a specific ISIS plan because I don't want enemies to know it, Sept 2016

"You would leave a certain group behind and you would take various sections where they have the oil (https://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/06/trump-repeats-claims-that-isis-has-taken-over-libyan-oil.html)," he said, not specifying if that group would consist of American troops.

[Swordsmyth]

Perhaps to be expected, the weekend editorials and cable news pundit shows reacted in disbelief and horror - with charges of "chaos" (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/white-house-chaos-jeopardizes-war-isis-u-s-commanders-warn-n859966) at the Trump White House over Syria policy, and claims that "ISIS will come back" (https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/31/politics/us-withdraw-syria-trump/index.html) if America leaves. Nevermind the fact that Trump himself while on the campaign trail in 2016 stated in public speeches (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/aug/11/donald-trump-president-obama-is-the-founder-of-isis-video) and in a tweet (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/aug/11/donald-trump-president-obama-is-the-founder-of-isis-video) (and linking to a declassified intelligence memo (http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Pg.-291-Pgs.-287-293-JW-v-DOD-and-State-14-812-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf)) that US support to jihadists in Syria under President Obama is precisely what fueled the rise of ISIS in the first place (https://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/blogs/jim-jatras/trump-claims-obama-and-hillary-are-founder-and-co-founder-of-isis/).


CNN, for example, painted a picture of mass revolt among the ranks of military officers and career State Department officials, asserting that (https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/31/politics/us-withdraw-syria-trump/index.html), "Any decision by Trump to pull out of Syria would also go against the current military assessment, a fact that left some national security officials concerned about the impact of a withdrawal, another senior administration official told CNN."
No, there's no "chaos" when it comes to Syria policy at the White House - Trump is doing exactly what he pledged to do while previously on the campaign trail, and he's further continuing what he started when he nixed the CIA's regime change program last summer (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-31/trump-saw-disturbing-video-then-he-shut-down-cias-covert-syria-program).

CNN has been running this chyron for days. It’s intended to suggest that presidents should never question the national security state apparatchiks who demand a permanent US military president in the Middle East, and that America’s invasion of Syria is just. pic.twitter.com/c7fRNYNBzZ (https://t.co/c7fRNYNBzZ)
— Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) April 1, 2018 (https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/980552584778928128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) But it's funny and very telling how brazenly honest interventionistas (https://medium.com/incerto/on-neo-cons-and-their-mental-defects-d12685585b11) and deep state bureaucrats suddenly become in their motives whenever Trump speaks truth on Syria. Consider prominent Washington Post columnist Josh Rogin, who the day after Trump's announcement of leaving Syria lamented while quoting a pro-regime change activist (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2018/03/30/in-syria-we-took-the-oil-now-trump-wants-to-give-it-to-iran/?utm_term=.c1925cbbfc9e), “We took the oil. We’ve got to keep the oil.”
That's right, the mask of pseudo-humanitarian high-minded noble ideals comes off (the Josh Rogins of the world care nothing about actual Syrians), and we learn that it's actually all about...
Oil! Oil! Oil! Iran! Iran! Iran!
https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/979856522753789953

Trump doesn't seem to care about U.S. national security interests in Syria. So somebody tell him by pulling out, he is giving Iran all the oil https://t.co/ZvqHoga4Ed
— Josh Rogin (@joshrogin) March 30, 2018 (https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/979856522753789953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/energy%20syria_0.jpg
Map source: WINEP
No more pretense and the slick language of R2P military intervention (http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/02/17/conservatives-call-for-obama-to-intervene-in-syria/) for the sake saving civilians in Syria... Rogin's op-ed is aptly titled, In Syria, we ‘took the oil.’ Now Trump wants to give it to Iran. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2018/03/30/in-syria-we-took-the-oil-now-trump-wants-to-give-it-to-iran/?utm_term=.c1925cbbfc9e)
Rogin, like other interventionistas, has no more cards to play, thus we find these straightforward admissions in his column (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2018/03/30/in-syria-we-took-the-oil-now-trump-wants-to-give-it-to-iran/?utm_term=.c1925cbbfc9e):

Perhaps he would back off his urge to cut and run if he knew that the United States and its partners control almost all of the oil. And if the United States leaves, that oil will likely fall into the hands of Iran...
Control over oil is the only influence we have in Syria today...
“We have this 30 percent slice of Syria, which is probably where 90 percent of the pre-war oil production took place,” said David Adesnik, director of research at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. “This is leverage.”
Astoundingly, these words are still being published 15 years after the myriad lies of the Iraq invasion ...no shame, no regrets. And a host of other mainstream journalists in New York and DC greeted Rogin's column as "refreshing" and respectable "essential reading" (as if it's not the same pro-regime-change script which has dominated talking points for years).
Meanwhile, a well-known Syrian-American Middle East analyst (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-01/peak-fragility-why-middle-east-doomed) and actual expert on Syria effortlessly shreds Rogin's supposed "realist" points with ease (https://twitter.com/EHSANI22/status/980127927709913089) (Rogin likes to think of himself as a foreign policy 'realist (https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/973541395930730496)' ...he's no such thing):

Whenever one thinks Syria analysis has hit bottom, nonsense like comes along to remind us otherwise. Josh Rogin's piece makes a set of outrageous observations that has become a mainstay of Syria’s war coverage over the years. Let’s establish the facts first.
Iran’s expansion that Josh Rogin wants to “counter” did not start with Syrian war butstarted in the aftermath of the ill-advised Iraq invasion that opened the pandora box which we are still dealing with today (Birth of ISIS is another). Interventionists have a short memory.
Syria’s alliance with Iran did not start with the Syrian war. It was cemented after Damascus decided to side with Iran during its war with Saddam’s Iraq in early 80’s. At start of Syrian war, Tehran decided to pay back the favor and came to Assad’s aid when no one did.
What Josh Rogin still can’t comprehend is that countering Iran is positively correlated with ending the Syrian war and not by adding more fuel to it. Iran’s influence grows when Damascus is threatened and not the other way around.
Syria is not Saudi Arabia. Even before the war, it’s oil production was mere 150K barrels a day. This is a drop in the ocean when it comes the regional oil producers. Asking Trump to grab the oil shows total lack of understanding of scale or strategic importance.
Indeed, by grabbing what little oil Syria has all you are doing is giving Iran and other allies of Syria more leverage. The more Syria can stand on its feet the less it needs those allies like Iran that you want to counter.

Whenever one thinks Syria analysis has hit bottom, nonsense like ��comes along to remind us otherwise. @joshrogin (https://twitter.com/joshrogin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) piece makes a set of outrageous observations that has become a mainstay of Syria’s war coverage over the years. Let’s establish the facts first ===> https://t.co/zPib3Kk2pV
— EHSANI2 (@EHSANI22) March 31, 2018 (https://twitter.com/EHSANI22/status/980127927709913089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) So it's not only his conclusions, but every assumption of Rogin and his ilk concerning the Middle East is simply dead wrong. But at the very least these moments serve to remind us of what morally corrupt failures the Washington class of inverventionistas have been, and that it's certainly not their own skin in the game (https://medium.com/incerto/what-do-i-mean-by-skin-in-the-game-my-own-version-cc858dc73260) when they argue for "taking action" (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/team-trump-must-match-its-new-rhetoric-on-syria-with-action/2018/01/28/357ef4ba-02dd-11e8-8acf-ad2991367d9d_story.html?utm_term=.284a1bae1439) whether in Syria or other parts of the world (the establishment political and pundit class is all too willing to send the sons of others to die in foreign quagmires with dubious aims).
Finally, it should be noted that Josh Rogin published his piece the same day Master Sgt. Jonathan J. Dunbar died in Syria (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/31/american-soldier-killed-syria-attack-jonathan-dunbar-texas/475929002/) (identified by the Department of Defense on Saturday). Rogin is ultimately arguing that more Americans must stay in harm's way for "control over oil... the only influence we have in Syria today."
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More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-01/interventionistas-outraged-over-trumps-syria-withdrawal-we-took-oil-weve-got-keep

[Swordsmyth]

President Donald Trump said on Tuesday he is thinking very seriously about pulling U.S. troops out of Syria, and will make a decision soon about lessening support in the war-battered country."Our primary mission in terms of that was getting rid of ISIS. We've almost completed that task and we'll be making a decision very quickly in coordination with others, as to what we'll do," Trump said during a press conference alongside the heads of three Baltic states, using a common acronym for the extremist Islamic State group. "I want to get out. I want to bring our troops home."

More at: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-decide-soon-future-182430745.html

[dannno]

President Donald Trump said "I want to get out. I want to bring our troops home."

More at: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-decide-soon-future-182430745.html

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[Anti Globalist]

I think Donald is a little too late with his April Fools joke.

[dannno]

I think Donald is a little too late with his April Fools joke.

What if it turns out you are the April fools joke?

[goldenequity]

"I had a long conversation with [MbS/Saudi Arabia] about Syria... I told him... if they want us to stay, they're going to have to pay us to stay."
How noble. :rolleyes:
Sounds like a crime boss.
how bout take their money, GIVE it to Syrian Relief AND come home.

[Swordsmyth]

French Soldiers Enter Parts of Northern Syria as US Troops Withdraw
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804031063173867-french-troops-patrol-syria/

French military personnel have been deployed to Syria and are now patrolling areas in northern parts of the country
under the control of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), according to reports by the Kurdistan 24 news agency.

An unknown number of French troops reportedly entered the border town of Tell Abyad and the city of Manbij this afternoon
after US troops withdrew.

Turkey has repeatedly threatened to attack the city of Manbij and other parts of northern Syria
after its successful cross-border military operation in Afrin.

On March 29, French President Emmanuel Macron vowed to send troops to the area to deter any Turkish aggression,
according to daily newspaper Le Parisien.

The newspaper also claimed that the deployment of troops from the French Army to Syria was being coordinated with the US,
which already operates a number of military facilities throughout SDF-controlled parts of Syria.

This latest development seemingly indicates that US President Donald Trump was referring to France
when he said the that the US would be leaving Syria very soon “to let others take care of it.”

...

[dannno]

bump

[Zippyjuan]

US not leaving just yet. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-agrees-keep-u-s-troops-syria-undetermined-time-defeat-n862691


Trump agrees to keep U.S. troops in Syria for undetermined period of time to defeat ISIS

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump reluctantly agreed in a meeting with his national security team on Tuesday to keep U.S. troops in Syria for an undetermined period of time with the goal of defeating ISIS, a senior administration official said Wednesday.

"He wasn’t thrilled about it, to say the least," the official said.

Defense Secretary James Mattis and other top officials made the case to Trump that the fight against ISIS was almost finished but a complete withdrawal of U.S. forces at this time would risk losing gains the U.S. has made in the fight, the official said.

Mattis told the president the Pentagon was already reducing the number of U.S. forces and would continue to do so, though he did not give the president a set time frame for the end of the U.S. mission in Syria, the official said. The official said Trump "wasn’t thrilled about that either," but agreed to give the effort more time.

"The president made his displeasure clear about any kind of long-term presence in Syria," the official said, adding that Trump said he wants other countries in the region to help fund the country's reconstruction.

In a statement Wednesday, the White House said the U.S. mission in Syria was "coming to a rapid end."

"The military mission to eradicate ISIS in Syria is coming to a rapid end, with ISIS being almost completely destroyed. The United States and our partners remain committed to eliminating the small ISIS presence in Syria that our forces have not already eradicated," Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said. "We will continue to consult with our allies and friends regarding future plans. We expect countries in the region and beyond, plus the United Nations, to work toward peace and ensure that ISIS never re-emerges."

Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats said earlier Wednesday morning that he and the rest of Trump's national security team had engaged in "significant" discussions with the White House Tuesday about the future of the U.S. mission in Syria.

The U.S. has around 2,000 forces on the

[devil21]

Or not. Whatevs.

As long as the Trumptards get a headline to write Donald's fan fiction stories, the truth doesn't matter much.



"He wasn’t thrilled about it, to say the least," the official said.

It's too bad he's not like a Commander In Chief or something.

[dannno]

http://www.gifmania.co.uk/Technology-Animated-Gifs/Animated-Clocks/Hourglasses/Sand-Clock-89482.gif

[Swordsmyth]

The White House said Wednesday that the U.S. military mission in Syria was coming to "a rapid end" but offered no firm timeline for a withdrawal, even as President Donald Trump has insisted it's time for American troops to return home.

With allies anxious about a hasty U.S. withdrawal, the Trump administration said it would stay in war-torn Syria to finish off the job of defeating the Islamic State group and was committed to eliminating the militants' "small" presence that "our forces have not already eradicated."
But White House press secretary Sarah Sanders suggested that would not be a long-term endeavor, and she described the extremist group that once controlled vast swaths of Syria and Iraq as "almost completely destroyed."
There were clear signs the United States was narrowing its mission in Syria, still in the throes of a long-running civil war, and would focus only on defeating IS and not on the broader task of stabilizing the country and ensuring that the extremists cannot re-emerge.
"We will continue to consult with our allies and friends regarding future plans," Sanders said in a brief written statement. "We expect countries in the region and beyond, plus the United Nations, to work toward peace and ensure" that IS never comes back.
Trump and his national security team are having a contentious debate about the future U.S. role in Syria, where an American-led coalition has been fighting IS since 2014. Roughly 2,000 U.S. troops are currently in Syria.
The president met with top aides Tuesday before telling reporters that he wanted to "get out" and "bring our troops back home." CIA Director Mike Pompeo, who has been nominated to be secretary of state, and other advisers strongly advised Trump against too quick a withdrawal, according to U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal talks.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-mulls-quick-us-pullout-syria-while-advisers-041300929--politics.html

[goldenequity]

There's a few nuances in this piece

Trump gets testy as national security team warns of risks of Syria withdrawal
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/politics/donald-trump-syria-troops/index.html

[Swordsmyth]

There's a few nuances in this piece

Trump gets testy as national security team warns of risks of Syria withdrawal
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/politics/donald-trump-syria-troops/index.html

He needs to put his foot down, and not just about Syria.

He needs to demand that they give him a pull out from somewhere.

[devil21]

He needs to put his foot down, and not just about Syria.

He needs to demand that they give him a pull out from somewhere.

If only he were something important, like a Commander In Chief, then maybe he'd have some sway.

[Swordsmyth]

If only he were something important, like a Commander In Chief, then maybe he'd have some sway.

He has it and he needs to use it, that is my point.

[TheCount]

There's a few nuances in this piece

Trump gets testy as national security team warns of risks of Syria withdrawal
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/politics/donald-trump-syria-troops/index.html
Fake news from anonymous sources. Right, Trumpkins?

[kcchiefs6465]

What about Somalia? Or I don't know, the other six conflicts the United States is involved with?

[dannno]

Fake news from anonymous sources. Right, Trumpkins?

Did you read it?

The neocons are trying to convince him to keep our troops there and he is wanting to bring them home ASAP - he is allowing them a little more time to finish off ISIS.

Hillary wanted to go after Assad, that is who you supported.

Trump is not going to let this turn into a boondoggle on his dime.

Seems like one choice is a trillion times better than the other to me..

[goldenequity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvgjvk_-0c&feature=youtu.be




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PENTAGON SAYS NO TIMELINE GIVEN TO PULL TROOPS FROM SYRIA: DAILY BRIEF

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ANTI US REBELLION



There's 2 groups of saboteurs/assassins now; one in Raqqa, one in Hasaka

Graphic video allegedly showing new rebel group inside Kurdish-held north Syria killing 2 US-backed fighters
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/graphic-video-allegedly-showing-new-rebel-group-inside-kurdish-held-north-syria-killing-2-us-backed-fighters/


NE SYRIA

Despite US-backed forces having virtually total control over northeastern Syria,
the Syrian Army does nonetheless maintain a number of key military installations and positions (including an airfield)
inside and around the cities of Hasakah and Qamishli.

Over 1,000 new Syrian Army troops to be deployed at Hasakah, Qamishli enclaves
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/confirmed-over-1000-new-syrian-army-troops-to-be-deployed-at-hasakah-qamishli-enclaves-details/

The reinforcements, numbering 1,500 men all up (the size of a Soviet-era army regiment),
are people native to the Hasakah and Qamishli regions who very recently reconciled with the Syrian government
and entered military service as a result.

[bunklocoempire]

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[nikcers]

‘God help us if it gets hot’ (http://fox43.com/2018/04/05/train-hauling-10m-pounds-of-human-feces-stranded-in-alabama-town-god-help-us-if-it-gets-hot/) Related: Train hauling 10M pounds of human feces stranded in town (http://fox43.com/2018/04/05/train-hauling-10m-pounds-of-human-feces-stranded-in-alabama-town-god-help-us-if-it-gets-hot/)

[Anti Globalist]

Don't worry guys. Trump is going to get us out of Syria very soon. He just miscalculated his strategy and had to change his plans. It may take another year or two or maybe even into his second term, but I assure you he'll get us out of Syria.

[r3volution 3.0]

Echoing others, the rebels we've funded for the better part of a decade will no doubt remain on the payroll, with or without an official presence.


Or not. Whatevs.

As long as the Trumptards get a headline to write Donald's fan fiction stories, the truth doesn't matter much.

And then there's that.

[dannno]

Echoing others, the rebels we've funded for the better part of a decade will no doubt remain on the payroll, with or without an official presence.

That is the deep state, the same people who are trying to get rid of Trump. You are on their side.

[Raginfridus]

Did you read it?

The neocons are trying to convince him to keep our troops there and he is wanting to bring them home ASAP - he is allowing them a little more time to finish off ISIS.

Hillary wanted to go after Assad, that is who you supported.

Trump is not going to let this turn into a boondoggle on his dime.

Seems like one choice is a trillion times better than the other to me..Gee, who put those neocons there?

You're probably right, he's got another boondoggle to build down south a ways, and on our dime. Not Mexico's.

[bunklocoempire]

Gee, who put those neocons there?

That only proves that President Torture is a lot smarter than to just keep himself surrounded by "yes men".

...and Hillary somethin' somethin'.

[Anti Globalist]

Also aren't these neocons trying to convince him to stay in Syria the same ones that he hired? Bolton,Haspal, Haley, Pompeo, etc? Maybe you shouldn't hire people that think the contrary.

[dannno]

Also aren't these neocons trying to convince him to stay in Syria the same ones that he hired? Bolton,Haspal, Haley, Pompeo, etc? Maybe you shouldn't hire people that think the contrary.

Obviously you are smarter than Donald Trump, maybe you should give it a shot.

[TheCount]

Gee, who put those neocons there?

Yeah but they seemed so smart when Trump saw them on the teevee....

[r3volution 3.0]

Yeah but they seemed so smart when Trump saw them on the teevee....

And they said nice things about him too, which means they have good taste and are terrific and wonderful.

[Ender]

Obviously you are smarter than Donald Trump, maybe you should give it a shot.

Trump: ‘Just Kidding. We’re Staying In Syria.’


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvgjvk_-0c

[TheCount]

And they said nice things about him too, which means they have good taste and are terrific and wonderful.

And they pledged their loyalty to the throne and everything.

[r3volution 3.0]

Trump: ‘Just Kidding. We’re Staying In Syria.’


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvgjvk_-0c

LOL

[nikcers]

And dannno will still be posting that trailer park boys video.
https://i.imgur.com/NuzS6up.jpg

[devil21]

One thing that occurred to me, a question that no one seems to be asking, is "when exactly did we officially go into Syria?" My recollection is of a few "advisors" for the rebel groups and that's it. Today, we're talking about it like it's Iraq. Started at point A and have ended up at point Z but the rest of the alphabet is missing.

[wizardwatson]

THE ART OF THE APPEARANCE OF THE DEAL

"I'm going to change this"
[Has meeting and is told he can't change this]
"We had a meeting and we agreed that the status quo is new thing I have input on."

[juleswin]

One thing that occurred to me, a question that no one seems to be asking, is "when exactly did we officially go into Syria?" My recollection is of a few "advisors" for the rebel groups and that's it. Today, we're talking about it like it's Iraq. Started at point A and have ended up at point Z but the rest of the alphabet is missing.

I was arguing with some Trump supporter on youtube and he said it was Obama that sent in the troops then I reminded him that now Trump is the one expanding and defending Obama's program. I mean, the world seizes to make any sense.

[r3volution 3.0]

I was arguing with some Trump supporter on youtube and he said it was Obama that sent in the troops then I reminded him that now Trump is the one expanding and defending Obama's program. I mean, the world seizes to make any sense.

The anti-war movement in the GOP (such as it was) ended with Obama's departure, as the old Dem anti-war movement ended when he arrived.

Who needs principles when you have mindless partisanship?

[dannno]

I was arguing with some Trump supporter on youtube and he said it was Obama that sent in the troops then I reminded him that now Trump is the one expanding and defending Obama's program. I mean, the world seizes to make any sense.

Obama's program was to increase ISIS' presence so they could help us fight proxy wars such as getting rid of Assad, which is what Hillary wanted to do.

Trump has done the opposite - ISIS is almost completely gone and Trump has no intention over toppling Assad. He is waiting for them to finish off ISIS, but is not going to be giving them a lot more time to complete this because there is little left to be done and it doesn't make sense spending a lot of money on it. That is how business people think.

[nikcers]

Obama's program was to increase ISIS' presence so they could help us fight proxy wars such as getting rid of Assad, which is what Hillary wanted to do.

Trump has done the opposite - ISIS is almost completely gone and Trump has no intention over toppling Assad. He is waiting for them to finish off ISIS, but is not going to be giving them a lot more time to complete this because there is little left to be done and it doesn't make sense spending a lot of money on it. That is how business people think.

Obama invaded Syria using ISIS as a proxy, Trump did it with American troops and American troops having killed possibly hundreds of Russians and has brought us closer to nuclear war with Russia then in the last 30 years. I am tired of your Trumpy bear fake trump persona please tell me how invading and taking over 30% of Syria with American Troops is any better then with ISIS Troops?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9qv8RSreIM

[r3volution 3.0]

Obama invaded Syria using ISIS as a proxy, Trump did it with American troops and American troops having killed possibly hundreds of Russians and has brought us closer to nuclear war with Russia then in the last 30 years. I am tired of your Trumpy bear fake trump persona please tell me how invading and taking over 30% of Syria with American Troops is any better then with ISIS Troops?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9qv8RSreIM

Why do you hate America?

[goldenequity]

How can this be true?

Russian Intelligence: US Has Over 400,000 Troops in Asia-Pacific Region
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13970116000689

[dannno]

American Troops is any better then with ISIS Troops?


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[nikcers]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/288/286/9db.gif
The deep state was controlling ISIS. How is controlling Syrian territory with Americans that might be killed for political gain better? Do we really need another John Mccain?

[dannno]

The deep state was controlling ISIS. How is controlling Syrian territory with Americans that might be killed for political gain better? Do we really need another John Mccain?

Gee, I guess it is better because American troops are going to leave soon, whereas the ISIS factions wanted to institute Islamofascism. Oh, and ISIS is extremely brutal..

[Ender]

Gee, I guess it is better because American troops are going to leave soon, whereas the ISIS factions wanted to institute Islamofascism. Oh, and ISIS is extremely brutal..

Oh, and ISIS is a proxy partner, formed & funded, with the US, just like Al Qaeda was/is

[nikcers]

Gee, I guess it is better because American troops are going to leave soon, whereas the ISIS factions wanted to institute Islamofascism. Oh, and ISIS is extremely brutal..
They are going to leave soon??What like 15 minutes?? Can we leave Afghanistan too while we are at it? You think ISIS is brutal, we have bloody Gina and John Bolton.

[nikcers]

Oh, and ISIS is a proxy partner, formed & funded, with the US, just like Al Qaeda was/is
Military jobs program- plus they changed the way the military retirement works so military personnel have an incentive to invest in TSP which helps keep the stock market up.

[Swordsmyth]

A deal with the United States to reduce tensions over the Kurdish-held city of Manbij in Syria is "doable" but requires Washington to clear up confusion in its policy, a top Turkish official said Saturday.President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's spokesman Ibrahim Kalin also said a Turkish operation to take the Syrian city of Tal Rifaat was no longer on the agenda after Russian assurances that Kurdish militia were no longer there.


Ankara had said an understanding had been reached with former secretary of state Rex Tillerson but this has now been thrown into the air after he was fired by President Donald Trump.
Kalin told foreign reporters in Istanbul that Turkey had proposed moving the YPG out of Manbij east of the Euphrates River and then US and Turkish forces jointly managing security.

"We still believe that this is achievable and this is doable," he said, urging "concrete steps" from the American side on an issue that was "really straining relations."

But he said Washington had to clear up confusion in its Syria policy which in the last days saw Trump signal a US pullout from the country before the White House stated it was not yet happening.
"The president of the US says 'we are going to get out of Syria very soon' and then others say 'no we are staying'."
"It does create a lot of confusion on the ground as well as for us. We would like to see some clarity, for them to decide."

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/turkey-urges-us-clear-syria-confusion-says-deal-160756724.html

[Swordsmyth]

Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Friday that the military is talking with Kurdish partners and others in Syria to resolve questions over US support once the United States eventually withdraws from the war-torn country.President Donald Trump last week said he wants the US presence in Syria to end "very soon." On Wednesday the White House vowed the US mission would come to a "rapid end," without actually setting a timeline.
A key issue is the fate of the thousands of Syrian Kurds that for years have been fighting the Islamic State group with US training, equipment and air support.
"We are in consultation with our allies and partners right now, so we'll work all this out," Mattis said when asked whether the US military is committed to supporting Syria's Kurdish fighters.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/mattis-syria-well-190517009.html

[goldenequity]

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[Swordsmyth]

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In wake of an apparent chemical attack in Syria, would Pres. Trump reconsider pulling out U.S. troops? Homeland Security Adviser Tom Bossert: “American troops aren’t going to fix this… we need regional partnership increased and we need U.S. presence decreased.”

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/0512b30ace9af4ea2599ff64ab31fce443e34032509da3c6eb e14abf38764ce3.jpg

[enhanced_deficit]

To be fair,, he used to be an advocate for keeping plans secret.

http://freakoutnation.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2014/03/Trump-tweet-350x194.jpg





Related

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/22/15/4373253500000578-4811382-Donald_Trump_was_deeply_skeptical_of_the_war_in_Af ghanistan_in_t-a-2_1503411083910.jpg



Trump Reversed Obama's Troop Withdrawal from Afghanistan
Jan 18, 2018 -

[Swordsmyth]

Two separate people have confirmed the President did not write the tweets this morning on Assad and Syria

JackPosobiec
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/983127866236919808

[EBounding]

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[wizardwatson]

Twitter feed starting to look like bombing from U.S. has started. Unconfirmed

[Swordsmyth]

Pentagon officials say there is no truth to reports that US has launched an attack against Assad bases in Syria.
Pentagon officials say there is no truth to reports that US has launched an attack against Assad bases in Syria.
— Dion Nissenbaum (@DionNissenbaum) April 9, 2018 (https://twitter.com/DionNissenbaum/status/983153955667574785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) Adding to the confusion, are reports that at least some of the aircraft above Syria have been "identified" as Israeli, although the IDF has yet to indicate, or confirm, it is conducting an offensive attack on Syria.



More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-08/massive-explosions-heard-above-syria-amid-reports-us-fighter-jets-cruise-missiles

[Swordsmyth]

Update: confusion, of course. According to Syria's TV channels, there has been an "aggression on T4 airfield with several strikes, likely to be by the US”. Meanwhile Pentagon officials deny any US involvement.


SENIOR U.S OFFICIAL SAYS NO TRUTH TO REPORTS OF ANY U.S. STRIKES AGAINST ASSAD BASES IN SYRIA


BREAKING: U.S. officials: The United States is not carrying out airstrikes in Syria
— The Associated Press (@AP) April 9, 2018 (https://twitter.com/AP/status/983165087228813312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) Which suggests that Israel (and/or France) may have taken the initiative to bomb Syria on its (their) own, although it is unclear if with or without Trump's blessing:

Pro-regime Syrian channel reports: “an aggression on T4 airfield with several strikes, likely to be by the US”. Meanwhile Pentagon officials deny any US involvement. pic.twitter.com/Y2QYr6S5Pt (https://t.co/Y2QYr6S5Pt)
— Ola Salem (@Ola_Salem) April 9, 2018 (https://twitter.com/Ola_Salem/status/983157180835692544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Syrians claim the US is bombing; Pentagon denies. pic.twitter.com/sNeQjzZB6S (https://t.co/sNeQjzZB6S)
— David I. Ramadan (@DavidIRamadan) April 9, 2018 (https://twitter.com/DavidIRamadan/status/983157247030198273?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) An interesting IDF tweet from February suggests Israel has had its eye on T4 for a while: "For a long time Iran and the Quds Force have been operating, with the backing of Syrian forces and the approval of the Syrian regime, from the Syrian T-4 Airbase near Tadmor."

For a long time Iran and the Quds Force have been operating, with the backing of Syrian forces and the approval of the Syrian regime, from the Syrian T-4 Airbase near Tadmor. pic.twitter.com/U9H33vDF4O (https://t.co/U9H33vDF4O)
— IDF (@IDFSpokesperson) February 10, 2018 (https://twitter.com/IDFSpokesperson/status/962394807745286144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) And yes... France:

#BREAKING (https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) Trump, Macron vow 'strong, joint response' to suspected Syria gas attack
— AFP news agency (@AFP) April 9, 2018 (https://twitter.com/AFP/status/983158947359088641?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) Meanwhile a Syrian military source said "several fatalities" resulted from missile strikes on T4, according to pro-Assad media.

Military source says several fatalities and casualties resulted in the missile attack on T4, according to pro-regime TV. pic.twitter.com/DzoMuhBKI8 (https://t.co/DzoMuhBKI8)
— Ola Salem (@Ola_Salem) April 9, 2018 (https://twitter.com/Ola_Salem/status/983163064802578432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) * * *

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-08/massive-explosions-heard-above-syria-amid-reports-us-fighter-jets-cruise-missiles

[AZJoe]

Trump’s Syria “Withdrawal” Was Textbook US Deception (https://www.globalresearch.ca/trumps-syria-withdrawal-was-textbook-us-deception/5635208)Feigning Withdrawal Before Greater Conflict is Documented US Policy ...

[Swordsmyth]

When asked about the explosions, an Israeli spokeswoman declined to comment.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/missiles-attack-airfield-homs-syrian-tv-014918239.html



I'll take that as a confession.

[AuH20]

When asked about the explosions, an Israeli spokeswoman declined to comment.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/missiles-attack-airfield-homs-syrian-tv-014918239.html



I'll take that as a confession.

They fired their missiles from Lebanon airspace. The Israelis fear the unknown of putin's air defense.

[shakey1]

https://jimcraven10.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/mccain130871_600.jpg

[nikcers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Udgh_aECE


Pan-European air traffic control agency Eurocontrol on Tuesday warned airlines to exercise caution in the eastern Mediterranean due to the possible launch of air strikes into Syria in next 72 hours (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-airspace/eurocontrol-warns-airlines-of-possible-missile-strikes-into-syria-idUSKBN1HI01E).

Eurocontrol said that air-to-ground and/or cruise missiles could be used within that period and there was a possibility of intermittent disruption of radio navigation equipment.

U.S. President Donald Trump and Western allies are discussing possible military action to punish Syria’s President Bashar Assad for a suspected poison gas attack on Saturday on a rebel-held town that long had held out against government forces.

[nikcers]

‘WARPLANES’ flying over Syria amid fears 'US airstrike IMMINENT'WARPLANES are flying over al-Tanf, the US-controlled base in southern Syria (https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/944314/Syria-warplanes-USA-airstrike-fighter-jets-Assad-Trump), and there are reports that a US airstrike “could be imminent”, according to local sources in Syria.

[EBounding]

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Of course, these are just words (best words). Trump has never sent missiles into Syria.

[Origanalist]

984022625440747520

Of course, these are just words (best words). Trump has never sent missiles into Syria.

This guy is a train wreck.

[shakey1]

This guy is a train wreck.

Yeah, & he's gonna take us down with him... let me off here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIPr23xyoZg

[EBounding]

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[vita3]

Threatening Russia with missiles in tweets is Trump low point in his Presidency.

Will any mass media figure or politician break from lying war script?

[specsaregood]

Threatening Russia with missiles in tweets is Trump low point in his Presidency.

Will any mass media figure or politician break from lying war script?

Tucker is on at 8pm on foxnews, that is fairly mass media.

[AuH20]

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[AuH20]

Make
America
Glow
Again

[AuH20]

WTH is this? Did someone call his bluff?!?!

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[Influenza]

how much brainless pro trump propaganda has that retard swordsmyth posted in the last week? can we finally ban these fuckers once and for all?

[AuH20]

Is Trump backing down, after the intel told him that he could possibly lose ships and aircraft?

[goldenequity]

984053549742067712

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/984053549742067712
Much of the bad blood with Russia
is caused by the Fake & Corrupt Russia Investigation, headed up by the all Democrat loyalists, or people that worked for Obama.
Mueller is most conflicted of all (except Rosenstein who signed FISA & Comey letter). No Collusion, so they go crazy!

[specsaregood]

Is Trump backing down, after the intel told him that he could possibly lose ships and aircraft?

Uhm, that seems to be the pr0-war viewpoint. I would prefer to ask, did he finally grow a pair of testicles and decide to stand up to the pro-war ankle biters surrounding him?

[EBounding]

In unrelated news, Raytheon stock is doing nicely.

http://quotes.wsj.com/RTN?mod=searchresults_companyquotes#

[nikcers]

In unrelated news, Raytheon stock is doing nicely.

http://quotes.wsj.com/RTN?mod=searchresults_companyquotes#

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[shakey1]

Boy, Trump is all over the place on this... WTF indeed.:confused:

[AZJoe]

984022625440747520

Trump launches his most diabolical weapon - bombastic infantile tweets taunting war with a nuclear superpower.
What an idiot.

[Swordsmyth]

Boy, Trump is all over the place on this... WTF indeed.:confused:
He is tricking one side or the other, he made up his mind what to do already but he wants to keep the other side off balance.
We will see what he chose when it happens and not before.

Related: from 4-08

Two separate people have confirmed the President did not write the tweets this morning on Assad and Syria

JackPosobiec
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/983127866236919808


I wouldn't bet either way but I lean towards no strike on Syria or another empty airbase, dannno will have a field day.

[AZJoe]

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[Swordsmyth]

Bloomberg reports that Trump will decide tonight whether to strike Syria - but the timing of the execution (or abstention) is undetermined.
* * *

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-11/trump-wont-order-military-strike-against-syria-wednesday-bbg

[Swordsmyth]

Earlier in the day, Mattis said the US was "still assessing" whether the Syrian government was behind the deadly chemical weapons attack on a rebel-held town near Damascus. It also follows reports that Russia is blaming the US-funded "White Helmets" (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-11/there-wasnt-single-corpse-russia-claims-white-helmets-staged-syria-chemical-attack) group for staging the chemical attack.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-11/trump-wont-order-military-strike-against-syria-wednesday-bbg

[Swordsmyth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxs53OqAkN8

[EBounding]

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[nikcers]

Bloomberg reports that Trump will decide tonight whether to strike Syria - but the timing of the execution (or abstention) is undetermined.
* * *

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-11/trump-wont-order-military-strike-against-syria-wednesday-bbg


The Kremlin spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, called for calm.

Looks like they are trying to blame it on a possible miscommunication?






“We do not participate in Twitter diplomacy,” Peskov was quoted as saying by Interfax. “We support serious approaches. We continue to believe that it is important not to take steps that could harm an already fragile situation.”

A US naval battlegroup - including the guided missile destroyer USS Donald Cook, and mostly likely a cruise missile submarine, USS Georgia - was in place in the eastern Mediterranean on Wednesday night.


In anticipation of an attack, Syrian planes had been flown to three Russian air bases and senior Syrian government officials had been moved to safe houses in Damascus, according to sources in Turkey.

Trump’s 7am tweet came after news reports quoted the Russian ambassador to Lebanon, Alexander Zasypkin, warning that Russian forces in Syria (https://www.theguardian.com/world/syria) would intercept any incoming US missiles, and return fire at their source, likely to mean US planes or ships.


Russian air defence did not try to shoot down US Tomahawk cruise missiles the last time Trump ordered punitive strikes following a chemical weapons attack attributed to the Assad regime.

But the Russian chief of general staff, Valery Gerasimov, warned last month that the next time could be different, and that Russia (https://www.theguardian.com/world/russia) would use air defence and other weapons if its forces in Syria were threatened.
Zasypkin’s reported remarks appear more sweeping, suggesting any incoming attack would trigger retaliation – whether or not there were Russian casualties.


Vladimir Frolov, a former diplomat and foreign affairs analyst in Moscow, told the Guardian that he believed the ambassador’s remarks were mistranslated, and noted that the Russian envoy had referred directly to Moscow’s stated policy.

But with tensions rising, he said, he believed Putin may have to step in to restate Moscow’s policy.

“I think until now they thought it would be good to keep the US in doubt about the real Russian reaction, but Trump has raised the stakes today,” Frolov said.

[AZJoe]

https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30572305_1652506944870584_3893499082662156859_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=1e60effff5649e1cda00112c663ba5a6&oe=5B62D4A5

[AZJoe]

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From Tom Luongo's : The Coup is Complete. Trump is Done. (https://tomluongo.me/2018/04/11/the-coup-is-complete-trump-is-done/)


Trump’s tweets right after the latest announced attack rang false. The word choice was all wrong. (https://twitter.com/joanneleon/status/983039453840191489) Tone right. Words wrong.
This morning’s tweets. The same way. (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-11/trump-warns-russia-missiles-are-coming-syria-after-moscow-vows-shoot-them-down) “Gas killing Animal?” Who’s writing his material now? A third-grader?


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[EBounding]

Trump's early morning tweets are the best tweets.

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[asurfaholic]

Our psychotic commander in chief. Anyone who thinks this chimp is better than hitlery or Obama has lost their marbles.

He will do more to undo freedom and thrust us into war than any of our past presidents.

[EBounding]

Scott Adams thinks Trump should be impeached if he ends up attacking Syria without actually presenting evidence to the public. He doesn't think that will happen and doesn't think Trump will even attack the country. Just posting for my own future reference.

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[nikcers]

Scott Adams thinks Trump should be impeached if he ends up attacking Syria without actually presenting evidence to the public. He doesn't think that will happen and doesn't think Trump will even attack the country. Just posting for my own future reference.

984423974812569601

Trumps ideas need to be impeached otherwise whoever they replace him with will just follow the same orders. Trump didn't beat us, he is just one head on the hydra. I keep seeing the internet bots say we need to stop being reactive and be proactive and thats why we need to invade Syria. We need to stop being politically reactive, we need to stop giving politicians like Trump enough rope to hang us.

We need to stop letting them corrupt our ideas. Stop letting fake politicians like Obama poison the well, and be for ending gitmo or the Iraq war, while playing along with the myth that we didn't continue the Iraq war by sending in ISIS which we created and was managed by the intelligence agencies.

We need to stop letting fake politicians like Trump claim that he is against Syria intervention while presenting fake news that we need to invade Syria at every chance he can get. This really should be obvious right now, but for people not paying any attention to Trumps actions and only his talking points need to get out of politics and watch professional wrestling. You might as well shoot yourself if you are only going to pay attention to someones words and not their actions.

How does something like this become a things with libertarians??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6NuDD6PBas


We let the CFR, the Ted Cruz's, the Donald Trump's, the Mitch McConnell's the Goldman Saches say Rand Paul is one of us, and we let that narrative live, we let that idea live. You don't see Ted Cruz get his ribs broken for speaking out against big Pharma? The media could actually promote that and wouldn't have to retract any statements of glee because people genuinely understand that Ted Cruz is a snake, why don't people see Trump as a snake? Is this something I don't understand because I didn't watch 15 years of the apprentice? If I would of watched the apprentice instead of the liberty report would Trump be more of an intellectual authority to me instead of Ron Paul?

[goldenequity]

"the United States, under my Administration, has done a great job of ridding the region of ISIS. Where is our “Thank you America?”

Sure. whatever. now GTFO. GO! :mad:

[AuH20]

Either they are backing off or they're simply amassing assets for a massive strike.

https://southfront.org/us-defense-secretary-no-decision-to-strike-syria-washington-waiting-evidence-of-chemical-attack/

[dannno]

Either they are backing off or they're simply amassing assets for a massive strike.

https://southfront.org/us-defense-secretary-no-decision-to-strike-syria-washington-waiting-evidence-of-chemical-attack/

US DEFENSE SECRETARY: NO DECISION TO STRIKE SYRIA, WASHINGTON WAITING EVIDENCE OF CHEMICAL ATTACK


Scott Adams thinks Trump should be impeached if he ends up attacking Syria without actually presenting evidence to the public. He doesn't think that will happen and doesn't think Trump will even attack the country. Just posting for my own future reference.

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[goldenequity]

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Breaking: US officials tell @NBCNews blood and urine samples have tested positive for chemical weapons in Syria.

https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/984480839726764032

(some jihaddi sips some bleachwater... pisses into cup, mails it to nikki. done.)

so then...
twitter shills CNN, Charles Lister & company adds: **both** Chlorine & Nerve Agent.
right. Who took the samples Charles? Lemme guess... classified? or 'trusted medical professional'?




►and this sudden 'leak' to NBC
comes RIGHT after this from Mattis:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DamXNBoUwAAyOTw.jpg:large

[Ender]

984480839726764032

Breaking: US officials tell @NBCNews blood and urine samples have tested positive for chemical weapons in Syria.

https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/984480839726764032

(some jihaddi sips some bleachwater... pisses into cup, mails it to nikki. done.)

LOL- that was almost exactly my first thought. ;)

[AuH20]

CNBC said they are going in. 8 locations targeted.

[goldenequity]

LOL- that was almost exactly my first thought. ;)

Leaving aside 'no corpses' in Dhouma hospital (1)....
At last count there should be 850+ available to sample.
OPCW deputies should be there anytime now on the ground.
No problem. Let's have a CHAIN OF CUSTODY for HUNDREDS of samples.

OPCW
In response to media queries, the Spokesperson for the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) confirms
that the #OPCW Fact-Finding Mission (FFM) team is on its way to #Syria and will start its work as of Saturday 14 April 2018.

[dannno]

CNBC said they are going in. 8 locations targeted.

Can somebody give me a "Fake News!"

https://media.giphy.com/media/l3Ucgb4BMPQLK0hWM/giphy.gif

[goldenequity]

OPCW
In response to media queries, the Spokesperson for the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) confirms
that the #OPCW Fact-Finding Mission (FFM) team is on its way to #Syria and will start its work as of Saturday 14 April 2018.

-------

Pompeo says he supports: -Congress coming up with a new AUMF (though says current 2001-era one works fine) -continuing to send lethal arms to Ukraine -strong sanctions against Russia
(perfect wats not to like?)

Portman says he just got back from the Ukraine. Asks if Pompeo would ever recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea as legitimate. "I will fight to make sure that does not happen," he says, but notes it's the president's decision.

------

So lemme to sum this up: Macron has a proof, Mattis hasn't proof, and unnamed official has a bottle of piss. Surreal...

[devil21]

For review, the 2001 AUMF:

https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ40/PLAW-107publ40.pdf


IN GENERAL.—That the President is authorized to use all
necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organiza-
tions, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed,
or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001,
or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent
any future acts of international terrorism against the United States
by such nations, organizations or persons.

[goldenequity]

OPCW
In response to media queries, the Spokesperson for the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) confirms
that the #OPCW Fact-Finding Mission (FFM) team is on its way to #Syria and will start its work as of Saturday 14 April 2018.

[enhanced_deficit]

To be fair, we were coming out of Afghanistan too:



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http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Screen-Shot-2017-08-21-at-8.06.58-PM-701x315.png

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/22/15/4373253500000578-4811382-Donald_Trump_was_deeply_skeptical_of_the_war_in_Af ghanistan_in_t-a-2_1503411083910.jpg



From: (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517987-Pre-election-Trump-It-is-time-to-get-out-of-Afghanistan-Pence-Longest-US-War-will-go-on&)
Pre-election Trump: It is time to get out of Afghanistan ; Pence: Longest US War will go on (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517987-Pre-election-Trump-It-is-time-to-get-out-of-Afghanistan-Pence-Longest-US-War-will-go-on&)

[AZJoe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=121&v=k-WuPFlMThw

[Swordsmyth]

Pentagon admits NO evidence of chemical attack in Syria, relying on ‘social media’ (http://theduran.com/pentagon-does-not-have-evidence-chlorine-sarin-use-in-syria-relying-on-social-media/)

Secretary of Defense James Mattis told lawmakers in the US Thursday that the Pentagon does not have any evidence that chlorine or sarin were used in the Syrian city of Douma. Mattis went on to say that the majority of the claims were coming from mainstream media reports and social media posts – in other words, the rising tensions between nuclear superpowers over an alleged chemical attack in Syria, inching closer towards World War 3, has been all based on ZERO evidence, only fake media reports.

“I cannot tell you that we had evidence, even though we had a lot of media and social media indicators that either chlorine or sarin were used,” Mattis said, speaking to members of the House Armed Services Committee on Thursday ... but that the US was still “looking for the actual evidence.”

...

[Swordsmyth]

Bolton And Mattis Feud Over Syria Strike As Assad Evacuates Weaponshttps://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-12/bolton-and-mattis-feud-over-syria-strike-assad-evacuates-weapons


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd0fVREENzM

[goldenequity]

Assad and first Lady today tormenting young Syrians.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DanTCt2WkAAqays.jpg:large

[nikcers]

I don't regret 60 regime changes, I regret not getting the regime change I wanted in the first place. The only thing I don't like is my nose, it has been cut off 10 times in spite of my face.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WRQRNkpDh4

[dannno]

Bolton And Mattis Feud Over Syria Strike As Assad Evacuates Weapons

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-12/bolton-and-mattis-feud-over-syria-strike-assad-evacuates-weapons


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd0fVREENzM

HAHAHHAHAHAHA

[Swordsmyth]

President Donald Trump has emerged from a meeting with his national security team without a "final decision" on how to respond to a suspected chemical weapons attack in Syria.
White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders says Trump held a meeting Thursday afternoon with his team to discuss the situation.
But she says, "No final decision has been made."
Sanders adds that U.S. officials are "continuing to assess intelligence" and are "engaged in conversations with our partners and allies."

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-kremlin-spokesman-warns-against-syria-strike-124929050--politics.html

[Swordsmyth]

Bolton And Mattis Feud Over Syria Strike As Assad Evacuates Weapons

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-12/bolton-and-mattis-feud-over-syria-strike-assad-evacuates-weapons


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd0fVREENzM


HAHAHHAHAHAHA

Related?:

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP. 3EMjCnG_vmXGCpO_gtSu_AHaJr%26pid%3D15.1&f=1

[AZJoe]

984084552544112640

[AZJoe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_ieErBsjnE

[AuH20]

Graham just went after the generals on Fox News. He's certifiable. I don't think he's actually a human. Maybe a golem.

[EBounding]

Is the Trump lovefest over yet?

[Raginfridus]

Is the Trump lovefest over yet?Savage backed off.

[Anti Globalist]

So what was that about leaving Syria soon?

[AuH20]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/6297520D-2ED3-42A0-AFBC-ED5D93046A50-514267.JPG

[acptulsa]

So what was that about leaving Syria soon?


Like I said, I believe things that he says that I like and I tend not to believe things he says that I don't like. Not because I am delusional, because I'm not delusional - It just works out well in the long-run.


Everybody is acting all surprised, but I told you guys about 6 months to a year after he got in office and Trump was going to start getting sick of this $#@! and start bringing troops home. That wasn't a guess, that how people like Trump are. If you have ever known successful people in your life and how they operate, you would know that too.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhFHIlwCSq0

One thing you can always count on with Republicans. If they want it and Democrats give it to them, they didn't want it. And if they didn't want it and a Republican gives it to them, they did want it.

[kahless]

Trump surrogate Gorka was loudly defending it on Fox saying not an intervention but rather sending a message on the use of chemical weapons.

So I would not be so quick to close the door on not getting out of Syria.

[AuH20]

I was right, when Bannon was disposed. It was all a fraud.

[nikcers]

Trump surrogate Gorka was loudly defending it on Fox saying not an intervention but rather sending a message on the use of chemical weapons.

So I would not be so quick to close the door on not getting out of Syria.
We have to abandon non interventionist principles in order to save the non interventionist system.

[nikcers]

I was right, when Bannon was disposed. It was all a fraud.
You were the one who said Trump was Ron Paul on steroids weren't you? Or was the that a different goldwater account?

[AuH20]

You were the one who said Trump was Ron Paul on steroids weren't you? Or was the that a different goldwater account?

Who said that? I never said that.

[kahless]

We have to abandon non interventionist principles in order to save the non interventionist system.

Trump gets to look tough and unpredictable while appeasing the Neocon establishment in both parties. Then he pulls out and calls it a win. We shall see.

[acptulsa]

I was right, when Bannon was disposed. It was all a fraud.

Most of us were right over a year before that, when you were cucking for Trump like a proper little golddigging bitch.


Trump gets to look tough and unpredictable while appeasing the Neocon establishment in both parties. Then he pulls out and calls it a win. We shall see.

You been in dannno's stash again?

[EBounding]

Alex Jones is literally crying right now.

[AuH20]

Alex Jones is literally crying right now.

Link?

[AuH20]

Jones is off the Trump Train!!! That's what it sounds like!!!

[EBounding]

Link?

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1YpKkEWoDjZJj

[Origanalist]

Most of us were right over a year before that, when you were cucking for Trump like a proper little golddigging bitch.



You been in dannno's stash again?

I think he sells it to him.

[AuH20]

Zack (high level intel) on Infowars just said that the orders for this strike came from 666 3rd Avenue as opposed to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

[nikcers]

Jones is off the Trump Train!!! That's what it sounds like!!!
There's no getting off now...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuHmpfiJizY

[AuH20]

There's no getting off now...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuHmpfiJizY

You may be right. +

[AuH20]

All sources say Trump has been flipped.

[kahless]

Most of us were right over a year before that, when you were cucking for Trump like a proper little golddigging bitch.

You been in dannno's stash again?

Right??? LOL. If you were right then Hillary would have won by a landslide, there would not have been Trump tax cuts, immigration and health care reform legislative changes. You irrational anti-Trump clowns here painted Trump as worse than Bernie Sanders domestically and Bush/Hillary on foreign policy. The later still remains to be seen.

[nikcers]

Right??? LOL. If you were right then Hillary would have won by a landslide, there would not have been Trump tax cuts, immigration and health care reform legislative changes. You irrational anti-Trump clowns here painted Trump as worse the Bernie Sanders and Bush/Hillary on foreign policy. The later still remains to be seen.
I am not a really big Obama fan, he funded extremists in Iraq and created ISIS, but he didn't kill hundreds of Russians and Bomb Syria without going to congress for authorization to go to war. Trump is an authoritarian neocon which makes him as bad as any US president.

[AuH20]

Zack is on fire. Great interview with Alex.

[acptulsa]

Right??? LOL. If you were right then Hillary would have won by a landslide, there would not have been Trump tax cuts, immigration and health care reform legislative changes. You irrational anti-Trump clowns here painted Trump as worse than Bernie Sanders domestically and Bush/Hillary on foreign policy. The later still remains to be seen.

Remains to be seen? We've already seen what Clintons and Bushes do on foreign policy, and it never did involve whistling missiles under Putin's nose, did it?

I did not vote for the major duo-party. I know this will be small comfort when we're all glowing in the dark. But it's more comfort than you will have, because we'll be past worrying about whether the EPA is fining cities for the fallout in their air.

And thanks for the little bitch neg rep. There's nothing like losing 0.007% of your rep total to give one a grim laugh in spite of bad news. Wake me up if you ever get something bigger than a Daisy BB gun.

[francisco]

Most of us were right over a year before that, when you were cucking for Trump like a proper little golddigging bitch.

You been in dannno's stash again?


I think he sells it to him.

Never get high on your own supply.

[AuH20]

Alex attacking Trump. Good for him.

[uncharted]

Alex attacking Trump. Good for him.

"I did everything for this guy and he has sold us out!"

[AuH20]

Zack just said that Trump's behavior is 'unacceptable.'

[AuH20]

Zack also said that this strike has triggered the kinetic algorithm for war. They are watching the troop movements globally. Don't be fooled by the MSM. The tremors of this will be disastrous.

[Raginfridus]

Zack (high level intel) on Infowars just said that the orders for this strike came from 666 3rd Avenue as opposed to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.You mean Comet Ping Pong delivered the child p0rn, I mean, pizza, I mean, missiles?

[nikcers]

Remains to be seen? We've already seen what Clintons and Bushes do on foreign policy, and it never did involve whistling missiles under Putin's nose, did it?

I did not vote for the major duo-party. I know this will be small comfort when we're all glowing in the dark. But it's more comfort than you will have, because we'll be past worrying about whether the EPA is fining cities for the fallout in their air.

And thanks for the little bitch neg rep. There's nothing like losing 0.007% of your rep total to give one a grim laugh in spite of bad news. Wake me up if you ever get something bigger than a Daisy BB gun.
God damn you two just get a room, this has been going on way too long..

08-12-2015, 10:31 PM

08-12-2015, 10:31 PM8-12-2015, 10:31 PM
I have been here since 2007 and have been civil in all my actions and posts, even in the face of vitriolic hate from other posters. Yet acptulsa has become obsessed with me whenever we cross paths making up false allegations that I am associated with Storm Front , a paid poster for Trump and has gone as far as to change his signature to indicate that with each post.

I am a Rand supporter, not a Trump supporter and hold no hate in my heart for anyone.

I have reported him to the mods twice whom have done nothing about his signature or the false accusations of racism. This is the only other way to handle it.

Yet you give ME the negative rep???

[AuH20]

QANON was deep state as expected. Someone should hunt down the fuck.

[r3volution 3.0]

Alex Jones is literally crying right now.

I'm sure that he, Molyneux, and other professional Trumpkins will successfully spin this as a deep state coup: "Trump's a hostage, he needs our support more than ever, arrests imminent! ...blah blah blah." That's a much better way to keep the dick pill money flowing than admitting you're an idiot and/or conman.

[AuH20]

I'm sure that he, Molyneux, and other professional Trumpkins will successfully spin this as a deep state coup: "Trump's a hostage, he needs our support more than ever, arrests imminent, ...blah blah blah." That's a much better way to keep the dick pill money flowing than admitting you're an idiot and/or conman.

Look, Trump may have been blackmailed, but that doesn't excuse his treachery. He had a choice.

[pcosmar]

We're Coming Out Of Syria Very Soon

in body bags

:(

[Cutlerzzz]

Trump was a huge supporter of invading Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya. What is there to expect?

[nikcers]

Trump was a huge supporter of invading Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya. What is there to expect?
Iran? :(

[AuH20]

Zack also said that this strike has triggered the kinetic algorithm for war. They are watching the troop movements globally. Don't be fooled by the MSM. The tremors of this will be disastrous.

[Anti Globalist]

Alex Jones is literally crying right now.
I'm sure within the next few days he'll be back on the Trump train.

[AuH20]

Raw Savage is angry!

984986747011457024

[kahless]

Remains to be seen? We've already seen what Clintons and Bushes do on foreign policy, and it never did involve whistling missiles under Putin's nose, did it?

I did not vote for the major duo-party. I know this will be small comfort when we're all glowing in the dark. But it's more comfort than you will have, because we'll be past worrying about whether the EPA is fining cities for the fallout in their air.
.

On this action specifically I agree with you. However pointing out it is not at the level of long term intervention of the Clintons and Bushes yet historically. It maybe his strategy to look tough on pulling out, hopefully. It was what Gorka indicated while angry yelling in favor of the attack on FNC a little while ago saying it is not going to be an intervention. It is however a huge risk that could obviously be disasterous.

Remember Hillary Clinton campaigned on a no fly zone in Syria. Trump campaigned on getting along with Russia and getting out of Syria. We all knew Trump is not believable but at the time the risk for war with Russia appeared to be less than with the unknown quantity rather than Hillary.

There were no viable 3rd party options that I have historically voted for anyway for since the early 80s. After 8 years of Obama and given with what we knew about the two candidates no one should be apologizing here for voting for the slightly lower risk and no viable 3rd party options.

Hitler was good to dogs and I like dogs. Does that make one a supporter of everything Hitler does?



And thanks for the little bitch neg rep. There's nothing like losing 0.007% of your rep total to give one a grim laugh in spite of bad news. Wake me up if you ever get something bigger than a Daisy BB gun

Your welcome. Did you forget that it was in return for you being GunnyFreedom's cuck with your neg rep. on his behalf minutes prior?

[nikcers]

On this action specifically I agree with you. However pointing out it is not at the level of long term intervention of the Clintons and Bushes yet historically. It maybe his strategy to look tough on pulling out, hopefully. It was what Gorka indicated while angry yelling in favor of the attack on FNC a little while ago saying it is not going to be an intervention. It is however a huge risk that could obviously be disasterous.

Remember Hillary Clinton campaigned on a no fly zone in Syria. Trump campaigned on getting along with Russia and getting out of Syria. We all knew Trump is not believable but at the time the risk for war with Russia appeared to be less than with the unknown quantity rather than Hillary.

There were no viable 3rd party options that I have historically voted for anyway for since the early 80s. After 8 years of Obama and given with what we knew about the two candidates no one should be apologizing here for voting for the slightly lower risk and no viable 3rd party options.

Hitler was good to dogs and I like dogs. Does that make one a supporter of everything Hitler does?



Your welcome. Did you forget that it was in return for you being GunnyFreedom's cuck with your neg rep. on his behalf minutes prior?
If you can't say Rand Paul was right about Trump after 3 years then you never will understand Trump.

[EBounding]

I'm sure that he, Molyneux, and other professional Trumpkins will successfully spin this as a deep state coup: "Trump's a hostage, he needs our support more than ever, arrests imminent! ...blah blah blah." That's a much better way to keep the dick pill money flowing than admitting you're an idiot and/or conman.

They say he’s under mind control and literally has a gun pointed at him—it’s my favorite Trumpsplanation so far.

[r3volution 3.0]

They say he’s under mind control and literally has a gun pointed at him—it’s my favorite Trumpsplanation so far.

You've just got to laugh at this point (and buy Brawndo calls).

[AuH20]

985003207071031299

[kahless]

If you can't say Rand Paul was right about Trump after 3 years then you never will understand Trump.

I did not disagree with what Rand was saying specifically about Trump. Rather said that he should stick to promoting his policies rather than attack Trump since everyone that does gets destroyed. He like the others did not have the personality to pull it off and would risk appearing as the establishment attacking the anti-establishment candidate Trump in an anti-establishment cycle. I believed he should have separated himself from the pack as the real anti-establishment candidate.

[nikcers]

I did not disagree with what Rand was saying specifically about Trump. Rather said that he should stick to promoting his policies rather than attack Trump since everyone that does gets destroyed. He like the others did not have the personality to pull it off and would risk appearing as the establishment attacking the anti-establishment candidate Trump in an anti-establishment cycle. I believed he should have separated himself from the pack as the real anti-establishment candidate.
Rand separates himself from the pack by being a truth teller, even when he promotes Trump's myths in order to promote his own ideas because Trump tricked people into thinking he wasn't a neocon.

[Wooden Indian]

Johnson would have dropped ghey cakes on them so....

[dannno]

Worst case scenario, we averted WWIII by 6-12 months by electing Trump instead of Hillary.

https://pics.me.me/so-ive-got-that-goin-for-me-whichis-nice-26007944.png

[Swordsmyth]

Worst case scenario, we averted WWIII by 6-12 months by electing Trump instead of Hillary.

https://pics.me.me/so-ive-got-that-goin-for-me-whichis-nice-26007944.png

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?521307-Trump-s-War-on-Russia-Syria-UPDATES&p=6616755&viewfull=1#post6616755

[dannno]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?521307-Trump-s-War-on-Russia-Syria-UPDATES&p=6616755&viewfull=1#post6616755

Prefaced

Worst case scenario

[nikcers]

Prefaced
Jokes on you guys, dannno has been stocking up on fresh water, gold, bullets, and iodine tablets.

[Swordsmyth]

The US-led airstrikes against Syria earlier in the day are most likely the last show of force before an inevitable withdrawal, a spokesman for the Moscow platform of the Syrian opposition Mohannad Dlykan told Sputnik."Despite the arrogance shown by Western aggression against Syria, the coming days and weeks will prove that this aggression is a sign of the complete withdrawal of the USA from Syria, militarily and politically," Dlykan said.
The spokesman added that the US administration needed this show of force to cover up its intention to leave Syria.

More at: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804141063545872-strikes-syria-us-withdrawal/

[kahless]

The US-led airstrikes against Syria earlier in the day are most likely the last show of force before an inevitable withdrawal, a spokesman for the Moscow platform of the Syrian opposition Mohannad Dlykan told Sputnik."Despite the arrogance shown by Western aggression against Syria, the coming days and weeks will prove that this aggression is a sign of the complete withdrawal of the USA from Syria, militarily and politically," Dlykan said.
The spokesman added that the US administration needed this show of force to cover up its intention to leave Syria.

More at: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804141063545872-strikes-syria-us-withdrawal/

In bold was the possibility I was predicting but of course the same usual characters here cannot predict rationally when it comes to Trump.


Trump gets to look tough and unpredictable while appeasing the Neocon establishment in both parties. Then he pulls out and calls it a win. We shall see.

It was what Gorka indicated while angry yelling in favor of the attack on FNC a little while ago saying it is not going to be an intervention. It is however a huge risk that could obviously be disasterous.

[Raginfridus]

I'm sure that he, Molyneux, and other professional Trumpkins will successfully spin this as a deep state coup: "Trump's a hostage, he needs our support more than ever, arrests imminent! ...blah blah blah." That's a much better way to keep the dick pill money flowing than admitting you're an idiot and/or conman.Yes. What nobody saw last night was Kim Jong Un terrified he was next. My source in the deep state, who I refer to only as zack, has told me Kim is so terrified, he is willing to hand korea over to Trump.

[nikcers]

predict rationally when it comes to Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1suZ3PM97pM

[EBounding]

Scott Adams thinks Trump should be impeached if he ends up attacking Syria without actually presenting evidence to the public. He doesn't think that will happen and doesn't think Trump will even attack the country. Just posting for my own future reference.

984423974812569601

During today's periscope, I asked Scott if he remembers his call for impeachment if Trump attacks Syria. He said he remembers, but he doesn't consider this an actual attack but a "political statement" :rolleyes:

985166106095534080

[nikcers]

During today's periscope, I asked Scott if he remembers his call for impeachment if Trump attacks Syria. He said he remembers, but he doesn't consider this an actual attack but a "political statement" :rolleyes:

985166106095534080

Why would Scott Adams push these myths would the deep state use someone like him as puppet to hypnotize people?

[AZJoe]

During today's periscope, I asked Scott if he remembers his call for impeachment if Trump attacks Syria. He said he remembers, but he doesn't consider this an actual attack but a "political statement" :rolleyes:


So by Scotty Adam's reasoning, throwing hand grenades into Scott's kitchen when it was empty would not be an actual attack, but merely a political statement.
I think it time for Scotty to beam himself to the loony farm.

[TheCount]

During today's periscope, I asked Scott if he remembers his call for impeachment if Trump attacks Syria. He said he remembers, but he doesn't consider this an actual attack but a "political statement" :rolleyes:

985166106095534080
Whatever illness dannno has, it's contagious.

[jmdrake]

Whatever illness dannno has, it's contagious.

LOL dannno.

[osan]

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/ALLPOLITICS/10/28/mission.accomplished/vstory.bush.banner.afp.jpg

I wonder how much the taxpayers paid for that banner.

[dannno]

During today's periscope, I asked Scott if he remembers his call for impeachment if Trump attacks Syria. He said he remembers, but he doesn't consider this an actual attack but a "political statement" :rolleyes:

985166106095534080

It was coordinated with Russia, the research institutions had been cleared out a week previously.

[dannno]

During today's periscope, I asked Scott if he remembers his call for impeachment if Trump attacks Syria. He said he remembers, but he doesn't consider this an actual attack but a "political statement" :rolleyes:

985166106095534080



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiii45nqDtg

[TheCount]

It was coordinated with Russia, the research institutions had been cleared out a week previously.
And?

[dannno]

And?

It was a win/win from a psychological standpoint for everybody involved.

The lying Soros white helmets lost credibility (sorry about that, I know that's your team, but you are going to lose so you might want to quit now)

Assad shot down a bunch of US missiles and was a savior to his people in Syria.

Putin took a hard stance against the US's actions, but the people have the information available to them that it wasn't a real attack.

Trump attacked a mad dictator who used chemical weapons against innocent people.

You see? All sorts of important people got to present their own narrative of the events and save their ass and make themselves look better without really hurting anybody.

[EBounding]

And RTN's stock SKYROCKETED too. So much winning!

[TheCount]

It was a win/win from a psychological standpoint for everybody involved.

The lying Soros white helmets lost credibility (sorry about that, I know that's your team, but you are going to lose so you might want to quit now)

Assad shot down a bunch of US missiles and was a savior to his people in Syria.

Putin took a hard stance against the US's actions, but the people have the information available to them that it wasn't a real attack.

Trump attacked a mad dictator who used chemical weapons against innocent people.

You see? All sorts of important people got to present their own narrative of the events and save their ass and make themselves look better without really hurting anybody.
Was it an attack or not an attack?

[dannno]

Was it an attack or not an attack?

It was a psyop.

[Ender]

It was a psyop.

Russia’s Humanity and Moral Conscience Are Leading to War
By Paul Craig Roberts

PaulCraigRoberts.org

April 23, 2018

It speaks to the humanity and moral greatness of the Russian government led by Vladimir Putin that Russia consented to a pretend attack in order that Donald Trump could save face. Unfortunately for us all, the consequences of Russia’s generosity will not be the thanks that the Russians deserve. Russia and Putin will get no credit for saving Trump from having to back down or have his naval flotilla sunk and his bombers shot down.

Russia is intent on avoiding a conflict, not because Russia is scared of the US military, but because Russia understands it is dealing with a government of psychopaths that are willing to destroy not only seven Muslim countries in whole or part within the past 17 years, but also the entirety of humanity. Therefore, Putin sidesteps each orchestrated confrontation and stands on international law and legal norms.

The result, however, is not what a humane person would expect. The result of Russian humaneness is to provoke more provocations from the evil that is the West.

This morning I visited a friend who had the TV on. I could not believe the lies that Trump, members of his government, and the presstitutes were telling Americans and the world. It was astonishing. Here is Stephen Lendman’s report on some of the lies.

Only readers of my website and a few others will ever know that the only reason thousands of US sailors and dozens of US pilots are still alive is that Russia spared their lives.

Although the Russian government has every good intention, Russia’s moral conscience and consideration for others is leading the world to Armageddon. The reason is that the neoconservatives who control US foreign policy are not going to stop orchestrating events that they blame on Russia. The longer Russia waits before it finally puts its foot down, the stronger the provocations will become. The successive provocations will narrow down Russia’s response to surrender or nuclear war.

The Syrian provocation was an ideal one for Russia to put its foot down. Russia held the military cards. Russia could easily have destroyed every ship and every airplane. Having made the consequences clear in advance to the world, the US would have backed off. The defeat of America without a shot fired would have undermined the crazed neoconservatives who intend US world hegemony.

Under such a clear statement from Russia that the American force would be completely and utterly destroyed, the US Joint Chiefs of Staff would have prevented the attack.

As long as Russia accommodates Washington’s aggressiveness, the aggressiveness will continue to increase.

At times I think that Russia is relying on the Western peoples to wake up to the gratuitous dangerous confrontations that are being provoked in their name. In fact, the Western peoples are helpless. Neither Washington nor the governments of Washington’s British and French vassals consulted the people or the people’s elected representatives about launching a military attack on another country. This fact shows conclusively that neither the US, UK, or France have any respect for law and their own alleged democracies and that the countries have governments that are unaccountable to the peoples. The British and French governments are accountable to Washington, and Washington is accountable to the military/security complex and Israel, which history shows can unseat any US Senator and Representative.

If the Russian government had watched today the US TV media, it would understand the futility of sidestepping Washington’s provocations. Not only would the Russian government observe the lies from Washington about the great success of a non-event, the Russian government would have observed that, on the one hand, there was proclamation of a great American victory, but, on the other hand, John Bolton’s allies among the neoconservatives, were saying that the attack was insufficient to bring Syria and Russia to heel.

The victory and its insufficiency combine to lead to worse provocations. The next provocation will be orchestrated in a situation more favorable to US than to Russian arms. Washington will not again risk a confrontation, as it did in Syria, where it clearly would have lost. What this means is that Russia’s humanity and moral conscience will result in a confrontation far more dangerous to Russia and to all of us.

As I wrote earlier today, “It would be a mistake to conclude that diplomacy has prevailed and common sense has returned to Washington. Nothing could be further from the truth. The issue is not resolved. War remains on the horizon.”

Link mentioned:
http://stephenlendman.org/2018/04/pentagon-lies-overnight-aggression-syria/

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Russia’s Humanity and Moral Conscience Are Leading to War
By Paul Craig Roberts

PaulCraigRoberts.org

April 23, 2018

It speaks to the humanity and moral greatness of the Russian government led by Vladimir Putin that Russia consented to a pretend attack in order that Donald Trump could save face. Unfortunately for us all, the consequences of Russia’s generosity will not be the thanks that the Russians deserve. Russia and Putin will get no credit for saving Trump from having to back down or have his naval flotilla sunk and his bombers shot down.

Russia is intent on avoiding a conflict, not because Russia is scared of the US military, but because Russia understands it is dealing with a government of psychopaths that are willing to destroy not only seven Muslim countries in whole or part within the past 17 years, but also the entirety of humanity. Therefore, Putin sidesteps each orchestrated confrontation and stands on international law and legal norms.

The result, however, is not what a humane person would expect. The result of Russian humaneness is to provoke more provocations from the evil that is the West.

This morning I visited a friend who had the TV on. I could not believe the lies that Trump, members of his government, and the presstitutes were telling Americans and the world. It was astonishing. Here is Stephen Lendman’s report on some of the lies.

Only readers of my website and a few others will ever know that the only reason thousands of US sailors and dozens of US pilots are still alive is that Russia spared their lives.

Although the Russian government has every good intention, Russia’s moral conscience and consideration for others is leading the world to Armageddon. The reason is that the neoconservatives who control US foreign policy are not going to stop orchestrating events that they blame on Russia. The longer Russia waits before it finally puts its foot down, the stronger the provocations will become. The successive provocations will narrow down Russia’s response to surrender or nuclear war.

The Syrian provocation was an ideal one for Russia to put its foot down. Russia held the military cards. Russia could easily have destroyed every ship and every airplane. Having made the consequences clear in advance to the world, the US would have backed off. The defeat of America without a shot fired would have undermined the crazed neoconservatives who intend US world hegemony.

Under such a clear statement from Russia that the American force would be completely and utterly destroyed, the US Joint Chiefs of Staff would have prevented the attack.

As long as Russia accommodates Washington’s aggressiveness, the aggressiveness will continue to increase.

At times I think that Russia is relying on the Western peoples to wake up to the gratuitous dangerous confrontations that are being provoked in their name. In fact, the Western peoples are helpless. Neither Washington nor the governments of Washington’s British and French vassals consulted the people or the people’s elected representatives about launching a military attack on another country. This fact shows conclusively that neither the US, UK, or France have any respect for law and their own alleged democracies and that the countries have governments that are unaccountable to the peoples. The British and French governments are accountable to Washington, and Washington is accountable to the military/security complex and Israel, which history shows can unseat any US Senator and Representative.

If the Russian government had watched today the US TV media, it would understand the futility of sidestepping Washington’s provocations. Not only would the Russian government observe the lies from Washington about the great success of a non-event, the Russian government would have observed that, on the one hand, there was proclamation of a great American victory, but, on the other hand, John Bolton’s allies among the neoconservatives, were saying that the attack was insufficient to bring Syria and Russia to heel.

The victory and its insufficiency combine to lead to worse provocations. The next provocation will be orchestrated in a situation more favorable to US than to Russian arms. Washington will not again risk a confrontation, as it did in Syria, where it clearly would have lost. What this means is that Russia’s humanity and moral conscience will result in a confrontation far more dangerous to Russia and to all of us.

As I wrote earlier today, “It would be a mistake to conclude that diplomacy has prevailed and common sense has returned to Washington. Nothing could be further from the truth. The issue is not resolved. War remains on the horizon.”

Link mentioned:
http://stephenlendman.org/2018/04/pentagon-lies-overnight-aggression-syria/

That doesn't seem to take into account all of the cooperation and premeditation that was subsequently found to have occurred.

[goldenequity]

That doesn't seem to take into account all of the cooperation and premeditation that was subsequently found to have occurred.
Don't presume too much here... it would be an exaggeration to portray the attack as 'choreographed' between Russia and the war pigs.
From all that has been published and not speculated or rumored
only 2 things happened we can be sure of:
1. Military channels remained 'open'
2. Russia declared it's 'red lines' geographically.

Beyond that... I think PCR is wrong... believing that essentially the pigs are only now encouraged to provoke more.
It assumes that 'nothing' was accomplished (by NOT sinking the Med fleet and taking an overdue 'stand'.)

I think a message was definitely sent.
The 105 missiles DID have more targets: the Syrian airfields... and it was put down like a mad dog (no pun intended).
The Pentagon knows it.
This FAILURE was by no AGREEMENT or orchestration between militaries or States.
Even psychopaths know when they're outgunned.
The rest of PCR article is reasonable.

[TheCount]

That doesn't seem to take into account all of the cooperation and premeditation that was subsequently found to have occurred.
In light of this new spirit of friendship and cooperation, I think that it's only natural that Russia destroy some targets in the United States in order to further improve relations between our nations.