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Anti Federalist
03-19-2018, 09:44 PM
No.

Just the opposite.

Too much treatment, mental health counseling and prescription happy pills are a big part of this problem.

The stultifying Grundyism and gynocentrism and racism of the government indoctrination camps are another, especially for young white men.

Broken families are yet another.

And yet another reason may be that, without being able to put it into words, young people see the prison planet that is being erected rapidly all around them, and see no other option than to check out of a world they (or I) want any part of, but don't know how to stop it.



Teen suicide is soaring. Do spotty mental health and addiction treatment share blame?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/03/19/teen-suicide-soaring-do-spotty-mental-health-and-addiction-treatment-share-blame/428148002/

Jayne O'Donnell and Anne Saker, USA TODAY Network | USA TODAY

J.C. Ruf, 16, was a Cincinnati-area pitcher who died by suicide in the laundry room of his house. Tayler Schmid, 17, was an avid pilot and hiker who chose the family garage in upstate New York. Josh Anderson, 17, of Vienna, Va., was a football player who killed himself the day before a school disciplinary hearing.

The young men were as different as the areas of the country where they lived. But they shared one thing in common: A despair so deep they thought suicide was the only way out.

The suicide rate for white children and teens between 10 and 17 was up 70% between 2006 and 2016, the latest data analysis available from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Although black children and teens kill themselves less often than white youth do, the rate of increase was higher — 77%.

A study of pediatric hospitals released last May found admissions of patients ages 5 to 17 for suicidal thoughts and actions more than doubled from 2008 to 2015. The group at highest risk for suicide are white males between 14 and 21.

Experts and teens cite myriad reasons, including spotty mental health screening, poor access to mental health services and resistance among young men and people of color to admit they have a problem and seek care. Then there's the host of well-documented and hard to solve societal issues, including opioid-addicted parents, a polarized political environment and poverty that persists in many areas despite a near-record-low unemployment rate.

And while some adults can tune out the constant scroll of depressing social media posts, it is the rare teen who even tries.

Then there's the simple fact they are teens.

"With this population, it's the perfect storm for life to be extra difficult," says Lauren Anderson, executive director of the Josh Anderson Foundation in Vienna, Va., named after her 17-year-old brother who killed himself in 2009. "Based on the development of the brain, they are more inclined to risky behavior, to decide in that moment."

That's very different from how even a depressed adult might weigh the downsides of a decision like suicide, especially how it will likely affect those left behind. And sometimes life is so traumatic, suicide just seems like the best option for a young person.

Carmen Garner, 40, used to walk across busy streets near his home in Springfield, Mass. when he was a teen, hoping to get hit by a car to escape life with drug addicted parents.

"Our students are dying because they are not equipped to handle situations created by adults — situations that leave a child feeling abandoned and with a broken heart," says Garner, now a Washington elementary school art teacher and author. "Our students today face the same obstacles I faced 30 years ago."

November is an especially difficult time in the Adirondack mountains resort town where her family lives, says Laurie Schmid, Tayler's mother. As the seasons change, the trees are bare, it's bitter cold and the small community has shrunk after summer residents leave their lakefront cottages.

In the weeks before he took his life the day before Thanksgiving 2014, Tayler seemed sullen but his family chalked it up to "teenage angst and boredom and laziness." It was likely "masking his depression he was dealing with the last few years of his life," she says.

As her son moved through his teenage years, Schmid says she became less focused on getting her son in to see his pediatrician annually, because he didn't need shots and wasn't as comfortable with a female doctor. Besides, he got annual physicals at school to compete on the school soccer and track teams. Among the "what ifs" that plague her now is the question of whether the primary care doctor who had treated Tayler all his life would have picked up on cues about possible depression a new doctor missed.

She had even tried to get Tayler to see a mental health counselor, even though finding one in their area of upstate New York wasn't easy. Once Schmid and husband Hans settled on one, Tayler refused to go.

One positive has risen out of the pain. There are far more resources and awareness about mental health and the need for counseling in her area now, thanks in part to the family's advocacy through the "Eskimo Strong" group it started. A local counseling center even has an office at the high school now.

Schmid speaks to schools and parents regarding signs of depression, to encourage counseling, and provide information for suicide hotlines and text lines. Her oft-repeated motto is "Say Something" and "Talk to Someone."

Mental illness also needs to be covered by insurance at the same level as physical illness, says psychiatrist Joe Parks, Missouri's former medical director for mental health services.

There need to be more psychiatrists and they also need to be part of primary care clinics, Parks said. At his community health center in Columbia, Mo., he screens those who may be suicidal and taught others to do it, too. Such "accountable care" was envisioned, but not fully realized, under the Affordable Care Act.

Children and teens who aren't covered by their parents' insurance can at least rely on Medicaid's Children's Health Insurance Program. That's hampered by low reimbursement rates that mean few psychiatrists accept it, however.

So, even children who receive mental health treatment, Parks said, may be in environments dominated by family members with drug, alcohol or domestic abuse issues.

"Wouldn’t you expect that to increase depression in children?" he says.

Suicide chic?

If super skinny — or muscular — models aren't enough to depress a teen, flipping through social media feeds can prove misery loves at least digital company.

Teens regularly post about hating their lives and wanting to kill themselves, so much in fact that Parks says it's almost like a competitive "race to the bottom."

On one hand social media provides a place to vent and get advice, but on the other hand, as Anderson said, “if everyone is commiserating over everyone, is it really helpful?"

Because teens are interacting in a way that isn't face to face, there’s less of a connection, so it’s hard to understand what, if anything, to say when someone says they want to die. Teens say they will see a post about depression or suicide ideation and sometimes just pass it off as relatable dark humor.

A recent post in one Baltimore teen's Facebook feed: "Alright, so I will literally pay anyone to shoot me in the head. Who wants a go at it? Please."

She included a smiley face emoji.

Blacks do kill themselves

Two African American preteen Washington charter school students killed themselves in the space of about two months recently, drawing attention to something not commonly thought of as a problem.

"There’s been a lot of discussion about how suicide is potentially thought of as a white person’s issue," says Craig Martin, global director of mental health and suicide prevention at the men's health charity Movember Foundation. "As a result of that, less is being done in black communities to look at the issue of depression."

There's also a more pronounced stigma in the African American community surrounding mental health issues. African American men have fewer mental health issues but more serious types when they are present. And they are far less likely to seek treatment, says New York City psychiatrist Sidney Hankerson.

Then there's the trauma that comes with living amidst multi-generational poverty and addiction.

A version of the much-publicized opioid epidemic in often-rural white communities has plagued inner city black families since long before Garner was a boy.

Garner thought "normal" meant watching his mother shoot heroin and his aunts and uncles smoke crack. "I lived with rapists, murderers and drug dealers and gangsters," he said.

Now, his students are his motivation. They and his family remind "me I don't have to try to kill myself anymore," Garner says.

On a Monday night, Karen Ruf went to a Bible study and J.C. took his grandmother out for unlimited shrimp on a Red Lobster gift card. When he got home, he talked to some friends at about 7:30 p.m. No one heard anything different in J.C.’s voice. Karen returned around 9:15 p.m. to a quiet house. She called for her son, no answer. She came downstairs and found his body.

Ruf knew J.C's death wasn’t an accident because her son left his phone unlocked so she could find his note: “Everything has a time. I decided not to wait for mine. They say we regret the things we do not do. I regret it a lot.”

Schmid's son Tayler also left something on his phone. A video suicide note that talked about the depressive thoughts he was having.

Hans and Hansen Schmid watched it. Laurie says she hasn't been able to: "That's not how I want to remember him."

lilymc
03-19-2018, 09:58 PM
If this is true, it's not surprising… considering how much they have been lied to and confused.

Raginfridus
03-19-2018, 10:01 PM
Psychiatric Boomers filling impressionable minds with jewish nonsense - little wonder they kill themselves.

donnay
03-20-2018, 06:00 AM
Many have been on psychotropic drugs since elementary, is it any wonder?

acptulsa
03-20-2018, 08:36 AM
And yet another reason may be that, without being able to put it into words, young people see the prison planet that is being erected rapidly all around them, and see no other option than to check out of a world they (or I) want any part of, but don't know how to stop it.

It's not just the very real spectre of prison. It's also economic.

I can't imagine the hopelessness of one youthful indiscretion from before one's eighteenth birthday putting a permanent black mark on one's record that will blacklist one from all corporate payrolls forevermore. When I was young, the actions of minors, and anything of which a person was found not guilty, was expunged from the person's record completely. I also can't grasp the effect on a young person of knowing that ever operating a small business might soon be impossible--the idea of cops shutting down lemonade stands was laughable when I was young. And the Incredible Shrinking Dollar is not something kids can't sense, either. A smart kid is not insensate to the fact that salaries constantly shrink, and theirs will be shrinking for a very long time.

Anyone who thinks these things have no effect on a young psyche is goofy.

fisharmor
03-20-2018, 09:22 AM
"Our students are dying because they are not equipped to handle situations created by adults — situations that leave a child feeling abandoned and with a broken heart," says Garner, now a Washington elementary school art teacher and author. "Our students today face the same obstacles I faced 30 years ago."

Dead on with the first statement. Children are not equipped to handle situations because they are not allowed - by those adults - to learn the sort of independence that allows one to deal with their own problems.
Children are encouraged to become self-reliant in matters of feeding and clothing themselves and basic hygiene, and as soon as they learn that they're put in prison for 12 years.
I remember clearly what that was like. I had extracurricular activities that taught me self-determination - I certainly didn't learn any in school.

The one thing that kept me alive from middle school on, was the knowledge that at some point, it was going to end.
Just five more years. Then four more years. I kept getting closer to being finally free.

Then everyone started talking about college. If there's one thing I didn't know back then, it's that college wouldn't have been like high school. All I knew was that it was school, and school equaled prison, and I wasn't about to do four more years of prison voluntarily.

But they're dead wrong on the second statement.
The difference is, today's kids never get to escape. I'm not at all surprised that they're smoking bath salts and I'm not at all surprised they're killing themselves. They're trapped.

CaptUSA
03-20-2018, 10:39 AM
Have you met many teens, these days?! Hell, I support this message.

They didn't ask to be born. They certainly didn't ask to be put in front of a screen all day as a babysitter. It's little wonder that many of them are having difficulty finding meaning in their lives. They're not living anyway, so why not just end it. I'm more concerned about the dead walking all around us who consume resources just to survive.

VIDEODROME
03-20-2018, 11:41 AM
I suspect there are a wide variety of pressures on all age groups, but perhaps Teens are more sensitive to it and more impulsive.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/22/health/us-suicide-rate-surges-to-a-30-year-high.html

Last year, someone in my parents' neighborhood came home to find her husband had put his shotgun in his mouth and blew his brains out in the basement. I'm not aware of an explanation or any note left behind.

In my own experience, I do agree school sucked for various reasons, mostly because of the asshole kids in my shitty rural town, but I did my time and got out. I later learned that one of my few best friends from school killed himself in 1999 and this was after we were graduated and free from that dumb place. He did come from a broken home, but seemed stable enough living with grandparents. I'm not sure what the deal was with his mom, but I think his Dad had some degree of mental illness that I wasn't given specifics about. Also, I think my friend was working a factory job that was having bad effects on his health.


It's a tough world and things can understandably seem bleak and the path to success seems like an unreasonably steep climb. It's interesting how AF's article in the first paragraphs suggests these kids were achievers. Well, they can do that stuff in school with support for parents, but it's gonna be fucking hard to be an achiever as an adult. I mean what are the choices between a mediocre life in service jobs, or the insane high stakes gamble of college? Maybe some even do that then you have the unemployed college graduate who commits suicide.

https://www.reddit.com/r/confession/comments/27yef4/i_graduated_6_months_ago_and_am_unemployed/


I also think there is really stupid social pressure or shame around the idea of working supposedly demeaning jobs like Fast Food or Retail. Even I was given crap over working at Walmart when my own post-college efforts failed. Well, now I'm earning almost decent money even though I'm a truck driver which is a job I've been really sick of doing. I did the longhaul driving most of last year which has it's own issues to as it can be socially isolating.

Zippyjuan
03-20-2018, 02:36 PM
"Soaring" is over-selling it a bit.

http://www.childtrends.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/70_fig1.jpg

Anti Federalist
03-20-2018, 03:21 PM
Valid point, but what do you expect, it is Useless A Toady news, after all?



"Soaring" is over-selling it a bit.

http://www.childtrends.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/70_fig1.jpg

dannno
03-20-2018, 03:26 PM
"Soaring" is over-selling it a bit.

http://www.childtrends.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/70_fig1.jpg


This is what it was like during the peak:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmpVDeFq1Aw

oyarde
03-20-2018, 03:27 PM
Many have been on psychotropic drugs since elementary, is it any wonder?

By teen years , prescribed and self prescribed I imagine has much to do with it .