Petitions to substitute the Boers for other "refugees"

[Swordsmyth]

South Africa’s white farmers have their collective heads on the block following the vote by the country’s parliament to expropriate their land without compensation. (http://www.vdare.com/posts/is-south-africa-going-down-the-zimbabwe-route) The plan’s main proponent, Julius Malema (http://www.vdare.com/articles/kill-the-f-g-whites-in-south-africa-courtesy-of-facebook) of the Economic Freedom Fighters (http://www.vdare.com/posts/south-african-cspan-brawl-erupts-in-sa-parliament) party, says (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=87&v=8Rw6noZvX4Y) white farmers are “criminals” who must be driven off the land. Make no mistake, this is shorthand for extermination (http://www.vdare.com/posts/more-on-the-non-sharpeville-massacre-in-south-africa). Congress should immediately direct that U.S. refugee policy be reoriented to rescue these victims threatened by looming—indeed, developing—genocide, as it did with the notorious Lautenberg Amendment (http://www.vdare.com/articles/senator-lautenberg-and-his-stealth-amendment), which captured the U.S. refugee intake to favor Soviet Jews (http://www.vdare.com/articles/hias-now-whines-about-religious-test-on-entrants-but-was-ok-when-jews-benefitted-solution-zero-refugees-in-2018). But President Trump doesn’t have to wait—there is precedent for immediate Executive Action. (http://www.vdare.com/posts/daniel-horowitz-in-conservative-review-eisenhowers-executive-action-was-to-deport-80000-illegal-immigrants)

Even the Leftist Newsweek Magazine takes a dim view of the future (http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/bury-them-alive-white-south-africans-fear-for-their-future-as-horrific-farm-attacks-escalate/news-story/3a63389a1b0066b6b0b77522c06d6476) for white farmers in a country once touted (http://www.vdare.com/articles/neoconservative-applauds-white-despoliation-in-south-africa) as a burgeoning “rainbow” paradise where “one man, one vote” and Marxist central planning would lead to prosperity for all South Africans—blacks, whites, coloreds and Asians. [Thousands Sign Petition Asking Trump to Let White Farmers in South Africa Migrate to U.S. After Country Votes to Force Them Off Land, (http://www.newsweek.com/thousands-sign-petition-asking-trump-allow-white-people-south-africa-migrate-826126) by Chantal Da Silver, Newsweek, March 1, 2018] Newsweek’s story noted a Change.org online petition (https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-trump-genocide-of-whites-in-south-africa) of more than 18,000 signatures asking Trump to accept white South African Christians (http://www.vdare.com/posts/canadian-government-to-appeal-case-of-white-south-african-refugee) in place of Somali Muslims (https://leohohmann.com/2018/03/10/how-was-a-somali-refugee-rapist-allowed-to-walk-free-in-utah/) and Middle Easterners (http://www.vdare.com/posts/high-welfare-use-means-rescuing-middle-east-refugees-is-an-expensive-hobby) who are difficult to vet and prone to non-assimilation. There’s also a White House petition: Immigration Priority to South African Farmers facing Systematic Land Confiscations and Murder (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immigration-priority-south-african-farmers-facing-systematic-land-confiscations-and-murder) February 28, 2018. But Trump already holds all the executive power he needs, and the legal cover, to pull off a sweeping rescue mission of South African refugees. A provision (https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-94/pdf/STATUTE-94-Pg102.pdf) in the 1980 Refugee Act specifically allows for emergency extraction of vulnerable populations subject only to a Congressional hearing (not legislation):

(B) After the President initiates appropriate consultation prior to making a determination, under subsection (b), that the number of refugee admissions should be increased because of an unforeseen emergency refugee situation, to the extent that time and the nature of the emergency refugee situation permit, a hearing to review the proposal to increase refugee admissions shall be held unless public disclosure of the details of the proposal would jeopardize the lives or safety of individuals.
Of course, ideally Trump would also get Congress on board with a plan for an emergency increase (http://www.vdare.com/articles/why-not-admit-some-real-refugees) in refugees from South Africa. (http://www.vdare.com/articles/first-they-came-for-south-africa-then) He could lean on Australia (http://www.vdare.com/letters/an-australian-reader-remembers-some-commonwealth-history-the-double-standard-that-hit-south), New Zealand and the U.K. (http://www.vdare.com/posts/the-queen-versus-the-rebel-regime-of-rhodesia) to pitch in (http://www.vdare.com/posts/petition-calls-for-white-south-africans-to-be-given-right-of-return-to-europe-but-solution-is-a-boer-republic) and accept these threatened farmers.
It’s been done before. In 1990 the U.S. Congress adopted legislation creating the Lautenberg program, named after U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg (http://www.vdare.com/posts/senator-lautenberg-championed-his-people-but-not-americans), to resettle Soviet Jews in the United States.
The Lautenberg program was then expanded in 2003 (http://www.vdare.com/articles/hmm-are-we-about-to-invade-iran) to pave the way for persecuted Iranian Christians (http://www.vdare.com/posts/on-easter-remember-christians-suffering-under-islam) to be resettled in the U.S.
All that is needed is for the president to step up and lead.

More at: http://www.vdare.com/articles/congress-passed-lautenberg-amendment-to-rescue-soviet-jews-why-not-for-white-south-africans-but-trump-can-take-executive-action-now

Petitions:

https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-trump-genocide-of-whites-in-south-africa

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immigration-priority-south-african-farmers-facing-systematic-land-confiscations-and-murder

[TheCount]

Probably for the best. The Boers don't seem genetically disposed towards liberty.

[Anti Federalist]

Probably for the best.

What?

That they get exterminated?

[Danke]

Probably for the best. The Boers don't seem genetically disposed towards liberty.

ya, we hate property rights here.

[Swordsmyth]

What?

That they get exterminated?

That is what The Vampire is saying.
I think he doesn't really mean it but having erroneously identified me as a white supremacist he thinks it is funny to throw a reversal of the "genetic predisposition towards liberty" theory (which I don't believe) in my face.

[Danke]

What?

That they get exterminated?

Ask him about Israelis, his tune will change.

[TheCount]

What?

That they get exterminated?

Could happen, yeah. It's unfortunate, but we've got to -


Shut it all down.
Country's full, and broke.

And so -

The rest of the world's "wretched refuse" can piss off back to wherever they came from and fix their own damn problems.

[TheCount]

That is what The Vampire is saying.

Yeah, because when it comes to refugees we -


have had too much for so long that a moratorium might be required until things are back under control.

[Brian4Liberty]

Hopefully they can find a way to stay. If they have to leave, Holland seems like it should be the first choice, maybe the UK. That being said, there was a lot of migration to the US from SA back in the 90s.

While not a fan of putting people in the front of the immigration line because "it's for the (refugee) children!", if one does subscribe to refugee priority, this would be a case that would probably qualify.

[specsaregood]

Id rather they declare their independence from SA, form their own country rendering the expropriation invalid. Then get Trump to officially recognize their new country and sell them any munitions they want to defend themselves.

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

Wouldn't mind seeing these guys get a dose of the jolly prankster, or any other people threatening peoples life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness

Canada's denial and claim of fake news is grotesque

[Anti Federalist]

Could happen, yeah. It's unfortunate, but we've got to -

Oh, I see, a clever and sarcastic play on my past comments.

Guess what, I stand by them.

Let the Boers fight and regain what was their's, or repatriate back to the Netherlands.

[Anti Federalist]

Id rather they declare their independence from SA, form their own country rendering the expropriation invalid. Then get Trump to officially recognize their new country and sell them any munitions they want to defend themselves.

And this.

[Brian4Liberty]

Id rather they declare their independence from SA, form their own country rendering the expropriation invalid. Then get Trump to officially recognize their new country and sell them any munitions they want to defend themselves.

Coincidently, the Boers used to equate themselves with the Israelites...

[Swordsmyth]

Yeah, because when it comes to refugees we -

If we were going to get a moratorium I would support it, but since they are going to let in a certain number of "refugees" then it might as well be the Boers who are closer to our culture and are actually in danger of being genocided.

[Swordsmyth]

Id rather they declare their independence from SA, form their own country rendering the expropriation invalid. Then get Trump to officially recognize their new country and sell them any munitions they want to defend themselves.

That would be better, I have said before that they should have divided SA, but I don't see it happening.

[Swordsmyth]

Hopefully they can find a way to stay. If they have to leave, Holland seems like it should be the first choice, maybe the UK. That being said, there was a lot of migration to the US from SA back in the 90s.

While not a fan of putting people in the front of the immigration line because "it's for the (refugee) children!", if one does subscribe to refugee priority, this would be a case that would probably qualify.

Better them than other "refugees"

[Influenza]

Better them than other "refugees"
same way that norwegian immigrants are preferable to shithole country immigrants, amirite? They may be more socialist than 99% of our country, but at least their melanin counts are within the acceptable spectrum

[Swordsmyth]

same way that norwegian immigrants are preferable to $#@!hole country immigrants, amirite? They may be more socialist than 99% of our country, but at least their melanin counts are within the acceptable spectrum
I would rather not take any new immigrants but the Boers are closer to our culture than those they would replace. (it has NOTHING to do with their skin color, I would say the same thing if they were black and the communists in SA were white as long as they were closer to our culture than the "refugees" they would replace)

[Influenza]

I would rather not take any new immigrants but the Boers are closer to our culture than those they would replace. (it has NOTHING to do with their skin color, I would say the same thing if they were black and the communists in SA were white as long as they were closer to our culture than the "refugees" they would replace)
You would rather not take any new immigrants? Then don't open your house up to them. Most of the country disagrees with you. What's with this "our culture" bullshit? Why are you so collectivist? You can just admit that ur racist like ur dad drumpf btw

[dannno]

You would rather not take any new immigrants? Then don't open your house up to them. Most of the country disagrees with you. What's with this "our culture" bullshit? Why are you so collectivist? You can just admit that ur racist like ur dad drumpf btw

"Our culture" refers to things like free speech, separation of church and state, relatively free markets, modern farming and business practices, monogamy, etc.

[Swordsmyth]

"Our culture" refers to things like free speech, separation of church and state, relatively free markets, modern farming and business practices, monogamy, etc.

He knows that.

[Influenza]

"Our culture" refers to things like free speech, separation of church and state, relatively free markets, modern farming and business practices, monogamy, etc.
You say that, but Mr. Swordsmyth hates secularism, which is enshrined in the first amendment. Perhaps "our culture" isn't as uniform as you might think

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

I would rather not take any new immigrants but the Boers are closer to our culture than those they would replace. (it has NOTHING to do with their skin color, I would say the same thing if they were black and the communists in SA were white as long as they were closer to our culture than the "refugees" they would replace)

Am sure it has been pointed out, most of the peoples that are being targeted by elitist agendas are peoples that are strongly independent and liberty minded, since they are a direct threat to their system

[Swordsmyth]

You say that, but Mr. Swordsmyth hates secularism, which is enshrined in the first amendment. Perhaps "our culture" isn't as uniform as you might think

"Separation of church and state" =/= secularism.

[Influenza]

"Separation of church and state" =/= secularism.
sec·u·lar·ism
ˈsekyələˌrizəm/
noun
noun: secularism


the principle of separation of the state from religious institutions.



you might need to give your definition then

[dannno]

You say that, but Mr. Swordsmyth hates secularism, which is enshrined in the first amendment. Perhaps "our culture" isn't as uniform as you might think

The problem with secularists in general is that most tend to be leftists - when people threw out God, they had to replace him with something and most people chose to replace God with the state and worship the state.

It used to be that Christian religious groups fought over government power in Europe, until Europe decided to separate church and state. Now racial groups, minorities and special interest groups fight over government power. This is called identity politics.

What we need to do is like what we did with separating church and state by getting rid of identity politics which we can do by ensuring that everyone is treated equally under the law. That will NOT result in equal outcomes between genders and races, but they will have to live with that and understand that the resulting disparity in income that occurs in a free market is not because certain groups are stealing from other groups or because capitalists are oppressive.. it is because of differences in IQ, culture, work ethic, etc. But that requires a conversation that the world doesn't seem to be ready or willing to have at the moment.

[Lamp]

The problem with secularists in general is that most tend to be leftists - when people threw out God, they had to replace him with something and most people chose to replace God with the state and worship the state.

It used to be that Christian religious groups fought over government power in Europe, until Europe decided to separate church and state. Now racial groups, minorities and special interest groups fight over government power. This is called identity politics.

What we need to do is separate church and state as well as get rid of identity politics by ensuring that everyone is treated equally under the law. That will NOT result in equal outcomes between genders and races, but they will have to live with that and understand that the resulting disparity in come that occurs in a free market is not because certain groups are stealing from other groups or because capitalists are oppressive.. it is because of differences in IQ, culture, work ethic, etc. But that requires a conversation that the world doesn't seem to be ready or willing to have at the moment.

And most non secularists who amble their way into Parliament expect everyone else to worship the state as well in addition to their own God. Except outside of the US its arguably worse. Time for them to get some hobbies instead of creating more mischief.

[Swordsmyth]

sec·u·lar·ism
ˈsekyələˌrizəm/
noun
noun: secularism


the principle of separation of the state from religious institutions.



you might need to give your definition then




Secularism is hostility to religion, throwing the ten commandments (the cultural foundation of our legal system) out of court houses and tearing down war memorials with crosses was never part of our culture or what the founders intended.

[dannno]

sec·u·lar·ism
ˈsekyələˌrizəm/
noun
noun: secularism


the principle of separation of the state from religious institutions.



you might need to give your definition then




That's interesting, I had no idea that was the definition of secular. I thought it meant non-religious.

Colloquially I think people generally view a secular society as one that is largley non-religious, as opposed to a religious society that simply resides in a country that allows freedom of religion.

[Lamp]

Bang. Hit the nail on the head.

What a crock of shit. Someone sees white people in an obscure area of the planet suffering and they assume they should be given priority over everyone else with no regard to history. "Maybe we should help fund and support these industrious white capitalists start a white capitalist abrahamic revolution and save them from the onslaught of the black ****** communist pagan peoples since they have obviously helped the country by creating communists out of them in the first place not that that matters". You wanna help the Boers then do it for them as individuals.

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

anyone being threatened with genocide should be a concern, wtf ?

are you an idiot or what ?

[Swordsmyth]

bang.

What a crock of $#@!. Someone sees white people in an obscure area of the planet suffering and they assume they should be given priority over everyone else....

Get lost, if we are going to take in refugees it might as well be those that are closest to our culture.

[Lamp]

anyone being threatened with genocide should be a concern, wtf ?

are you an idiot or what ?

Nobody should be a concern. But somehow a minority of people feel as though that they should. Those ships used to bring them over surely won't be government owned will they?

[dannno]

Get lost, if we are going to take in refugees it might as well be those that are closest to our culture.

I think most people here agree that the government should stay out of it, but if we are going to help refugees with monetary support or by relocating them here, it makes more sense to give monetary support to those refugees who have greater cultural differences and if we are going to take in refugees it makes more sense to bring in ones who have fewer cultural differences.

It costs a lot less to support refugees in their home country, it costs about 10% as much as bringing them here and supporting them.

Now, giving whites in SA money is not incredibly helpful when their government is confiscating their land and they are being slaughtered en masse due to their race.

Additionally, since they have fewer cultural differences, bringing them here would mean that many would be able to get work and support themselves and their family more easily so it wouldn't be a huge expense to bring them here.

[Influenza]

Secularism is hostility to religion, throwing the ten commandments (the cultural foundation of our legal system) out of court houses and tearing down war memorials with crosses was never part of our culture or what the founders intended.
I don't know how many times this needs to be said, but the ten commandments have absolutely nothing do with our nor any other modern, western legal system. Read them. Only two of those ten commandments exist in our own legal code, and those laws were first thought of long before judaism was a thing. The establishment clause prevents public funds going towards respecting an establishment of religion. The tax money of non-religious people or people of other religions should not be going towards 10 commandment displays. Roy moore and his ilk really need to get fuckin lost

[Lamp]

I don't know how many times this needs to be said, but the ten commandments have absolutely nothing do with our nor any other modern, western legal system. Read them. Only two of those ten commandments exist in our own legal code, and those laws were first thought of long before judaism was a thing. The establishment clause prevents public funds going towards respecting an establishment of religion. The tax money of non-religious people or people of other religions should not be going towards 10 commandment displays. Roy moore and his ilk really need to get fuckin lost

You tell him. People that want to shove their dicks in other people faces through public demonstrations ought to get a FUCKIN hobby.

[Swordsmyth]

I think most people here agree that the government should stay out of it, but if we are going to help refugees with monetary support or by relocating them here, it makes more sense to give monetary support to those refugees who have greater cultural differences and if we are going to take in refugees it makes more sense to bring in ones who have fewer cultural differences.

It costs a lot less to support refugees in their home country, it costs about 10% as much as bringing them here.

Now, giving whites in SA money is no good when their government is confiscating their land and they are being slaughtered en masse.

I agree, as I said I would rather have a 10 year immigration freeze but if we are going to bring in refugees the Boers are really in danger and they are a closer fit with our culture.

[Lamp]

I think most people here agree that the government should stay out of it, but if we are going to help refugees with monetary support or by relocating them here, it makes more sense to give monetary support to those refugees who have greater cultural differences and if we are going to take in refugees it makes more sense to bring in ones who have fewer cultural differences.

It costs a lot less to support refugees in their home country, it costs about 10% as much as bringing them here and supporting them.

Now, giving whites in SA money is not incredibly helpful when their government is confiscating their land and they are being slaughtered en masse due to their race.

Additionally, since they have fewer cultural differences, bringing them here would mean that many would be able to get work and support themselves and their family more easily so it wouldn't be a huge expense to bring them here.

How are you going to bring them over here again?

[dannno]

How are you going to bring them over here again?

Like I said, I think most people here agree the government should stay out of it, but if there are going to be people coming here on boats, planes, or whatever, then let's be selective.

[dannno]

I don't know how many times this needs to be said, but the ten commandments have absolutely nothing do with our nor any other modern, western legal system. Read them. Only two of those ten commandments exist in our own legal code, and those laws were first thought of long before judaism was a thing. The establishment clause prevents public funds going towards respecting an establishment of religion. The tax money of non-religious people or people of other religions should not be going towards 10 commandment displays. Roy moore and his ilk really need to get fuckin lost

Taking down religious displays in courts is probably item #183,493 in a list of things I disagree that government does that I would be concerned with.

I would say bearing false witness could be related to fraud, which the courts handle. Also, a marriage agreement may contain language that adultery is not committed. Divorce and family courts will considered whether adultery was committed.

Some of the commandments often lead to things that are against the law.

But you are correct that courts should not use the 10 commandments as a criminal prosecution manual.

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

Nobody should be a concern. But somehow a minority of people feel as though that they should. Those ships used to bring them over surely won't be government owned will they?

Maybe people being threatened with genocide are not a concern to you. . . they are to me and to many others who actually have a sense of human decency

[Lamp]

Maybe people being threatened with genocide are not a concern to you. . . they are to me and to many others who actually have a sense of human decency

Which people threatened with genocide?

The Buddhist chakma people of eastern bangladesh are far more at risk and get little to no media coverage. Oooooh wait their not white Christians or Syrians so they don't get first priority. All of a sudden me not wanting to subsidize overseas white christian immigrants simply for the fact of them being what they are like the majority of people who advocate for this adventure such as the wannabe politicians of youtube makes me a bad person. If you wanna shit on my opinion that using a group of people for cultural enrichment is wrong then I don't buy it.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/518/339/5e2.jpg (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwigzr7V0uzZAhVo6oMKHfByDO8QjRwIBg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fknowyourmeme.com%2Fphotos%2F51833 9-reaction-images&psig=AOvVaw1Ucm7CsmoIzyQqPRpdmH9c&ust=1521145487329865)

[Swordsmyth]

Which people threatened with genocide?

The buddhist chakma people of eastern bangladesh are far more at risk and get little to no media coverage. Oooooh wait their not white christians or syrians so they don't get first priority.......

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/518/339/5e2.jpg (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwigzr7V0uzZAhVo6oMKHfByDO8QjRwIBg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fknowyourmeme.com%2Fphotos%2F51833 9-reaction-images&psig=AOvVaw1Ucm7CsmoIzyQqPRpdmH9c&ust=1521145487329865)

Charity begins at home, we shouldn't be taking in refugees beyond a our immigration quotas but if we are going to we get to choose those who are closest to our culture, buddhist countries can take in the buddhist chakma people of eastern bangladesh if they want.

America isn't responsible for fixing every problem in the world.

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

Well it is too bad that the Chakma have been used by Hillary and friends to try to destabilize Myanmar. . .

but I will take the medias track record for what it is. . . selective reporting. . . only giving coverage to certain issues that will sway public opinion and policies to their favor and agendas/

I and many others here have been very outspoken against the unjust wars started in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Yemen, and so many other places. . . and hope that we solve the root of the problem and not devolve into a Kalergi-esque type society that is planned by the worlds elite banking cartels

[Lamp]

I didn't ask for your opinion Sword Swallower. A "get lost jerk" I definitely am according to your 3rd grade vocabulary but you are far worse.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQD2w4HU3jw

[Lamp]

Well it is too bad that the Chakma have been used by Hillary and friends to try to destabilize Myanmar. . .

but I will take the medias track record fro what it is. . . selective reporting. . . only giving coverage to certain issues that will sway public opinion and policies to their favor and agendas/

I and many others here have been very outspoken against the unjust wars started in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Yemen, and so many other places. . . and hope that we solve the root of the problem and not devolve into a Kalergi-esque type society that is planned by the worlds elite banking cartels

That's the Rohingya people. The Chakmas are Buddhists in Bangladesh. The Rohingya are muslims in Myanmar. you got them mixed up.

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

right, thanks for correction

[Swordsmyth]

I didn't ask for your opinion Sword Swallower.



It's my thread so you get my opinions whether you like it or not.

[Lamp]

nothing new here I suppose.

[Swordsmyth]

nothing new here I suppose.

Thanks for keeping the thread bumped.

Petitions:

https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-tr...n-south-africa (https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-trump-genocide-of-whites-in-south-africa)

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ons-and-murder (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immigration-priority-south-african-farmers-facing-systematic-land-confiscations-and-murder)

[Lamp]

eeyup

[juleswin]

eeyup


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhBnZ6NPOY0

I saw this video and I immediately thought of u. Anyway, posted to cheer the mood around here up, bump the thread (please sign the petition) and say hi to my friend Lamp.

[Lamp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhBnZ6NPOY0

I saw this video and I immediately thought of u. Anyway, posted to cheer the mood around here up, bump the thread (please sign the petition) and say hi to my friend Lamp.

I read all of Naruto but I don't really consider myself a big fan of the show. I'm really more of a Hunter Hunter fan. thanks anyway.

https://myanimelist.cdn-dena.com/images/anime/11/33657l.jpg

[Ender]

I agree, as I said I would rather have a 10 year immigration freeze but if we are going to bring in refugees the Boers are really in danger and they are a closer fit with our culture.

Because they're, lemmee guess....white? Pretty sure the Boers are not too familiar with our culture.

And, I have no problem helping them, if it be possible.

[Swordsmyth]

Because they're, lemmee guess....white? Pretty sure the Boers are not too familiar with our culture.

And, I have no problem helping them, if it be possible.

Stop with the race baiting, they are the descendants of Europeans who had a strong Christian, liberty, frontiersman culture similar to ours and much closer than the "refugees" they would replace.

Race may correlate with culture in many instances (for obvious familial reasons) but it is culture I care about.

[Ender]

Stop with the race baiting, they are the descendants of Europeans who had a strong Christian, liberty, frontiersman culture similar to ours and much closer than the "refugees" they would replace.

Race may correlate with culture in many instances (for obvious familial reasons) but it is culture I care about.

Didn't YOU just "race-bait" me on the Iranian thread?

And the culture you care about is a huge mixture of many cultures/races/ethnic types- and I've always liked that.

[Swordsmyth]

Didn't YOU just "race-bait" me on the Iranian thread?
I warned that you might be accused of racism as a joke.


And the culture you care about is a huge mixture of many cultures/races/ethnic types- and I've always liked that.
I'm glad you recognize it.

[Ender]

I warned that you might be accused of racism as a joke.


I'm glad you recognize it.

My reply to you here & on the Iran thread was sarcasm- sorry if it didn't come across.

[Superfluous Man]

It's weird that VDare is pushing this. They're supposed to be anti-immigration, and for keeping America American. (http://www.vdare.com/about)

What is it about bringing these white South Africans to the US that fits with that mission?

Shouldn't they be against welcoming these refugees just like they're against welcoming all the other refugees?

[Swordsmyth]

My reply to you here & on the Iran thread was sarcasm- sorry if it didn't come across.

That's OK.

[Swordsmyth]

It's weird that VDare is pushing this. They're supposed to be anti-immigration, and for keeping America American. (http://www.vdare.com/about)

What is it about bringing these white South Africans to the US that fits with that mission?

Shouldn't they be against welcoming these refugees just like they're against welcoming all the other refugees?

I think their point is exactly what I am saying, if we are going to take in refugees then why not choose those who fit our culture better and who are really in danger.

[specsaregood]

Like I said, lets just sell them or let private individual send them weapons and let them resubjugate their would be masters.

[Ender]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhBnZ6NPOY0

I saw this video and I immediately thought of u. Anyway, posted to cheer the mood around here up, bump the thread (please sign the petition) and say hi to my friend Lamp.

Yo, Bro!

[Swordsmyth]

Like I said, lets just sell them or let private individual send them weapons and let them resubjugate their would be masters.

That won't happen, can you hear the cry of "NAZIs" that would echo around the world?

[Swordsmyth]

Bump to keep the petition links on the current page.

Petitions:

https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-tr...n-south-africa (https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-trump-genocide-of-whites-in-south-africa)

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ons-and-murder (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immigration-priority-south-african-farmers-facing-systematic-land-confiscations-and-murder)

[Raginfridus]

You would rather not take any new immigrants? Then don't open your house up to them. Most of the country disagrees with you. What's with this "our culture" bull$#@!? Why are you so collectivist? You can just admit that ur racist like ur dad drumpf btwWhat is our culture?

[Raginfridus]

Get lost, if we are going to take in refugees it might as well be those that are closest to our culture.

What do you even know about Afrikaner farmers? Are you a Menonite?

[Swordsmyth]

What do you even know about Afrikaner farmers? Are you a Menonite?

I am a student of history.

[dannno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhBnZ6NPOY0

I saw this video and I immediately thought of u. Anyway, posted to cheer the mood around here up, bump the thread (please sign the petition) and say hi to my friend Lamp.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDisMfVPeHI

[Tywysog Cymru]

Boers are pretty good people from personal experience. Then again I don't know very many.

[Brian4Liberty]

IIRC, there are interesting parallels between the history of the US (especially the west) and the Boers. There was a similar frontier, cowboy, individualistic "culture", and a rebellious attitude towards the rulers in Europe.

[Anti Federalist]

You would rather not take any new immigrants? Then don't open your house up to them. Most of the country disagrees with you. What's with this "our culture" bullshit? Why are you so collectivist? You can just admit that ur racist like ur dad drumpf btw

Ah, democracy.

[Lamp]

Ah, democracy.

Democracy doesn't work either way.

[Lamp]

People who have the free time to blog on /r/SouthAfrica and Quora about how oppressed they are aren't fit for honest to goodness refugee status.

[Superfluous Man]

I think their point is exactly what I am saying, if we are going to take in refugees then why not choose those who fit our culture better and who are really in danger.

What is "our culture"? And how do they fit it?

South African food (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_cuisine) is less common in America than Middle Eastern food is.

Aafricans is a less common language in America than Arabic is.

Is "our culture" a cypher for being white?

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

. . .

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

People who have the free time to blog on /r/SouthAfrica and Quora about how how oppressed they are aren't fit for refugee status.

when the President of the country you live in sings celebratory songs about killing Boers and is making veiled threats, pretty sure its a legitimate reason to be concerned

[Swordsmyth]

What is "our culture"? And how do they fit it?

South African food (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_cuisine) is less common in America than Middle Eastern food is.

Aafricans is a less common language in America than Arabic is.

Is "our culture" a cypher for being white?


IIRC, there are interesting parallels between the history of the US (especially the west) and the Boers. There was a similar frontier, cowboy, individualistic "culture", and a rebellious attitude towards the rulers in Europe.


They are a branch of the same Christian European culture that we are from and they have similar leanings towards liberty.

[Anti Federalist]

Looks like the Aussies are going to take them in.


Australia Examining Fast-Track Visas for Threatened South African Farmers

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/14/australia-examining-fast-track-visas-for-threatened-south-african-farmers/

by Simon Kent 14 Mar 2018

Australia is ready to consider issuing special visas to mainly white, Afrikaans-speaking South African farmers due to the “horrific circumstances” of land seizures, violence and murder they face.

Peter Dutton, Australia’s home affairs minister, told the Sydney Daily Telegraph on Wednesday his department was examining a range of methods to smooth their path to Australia on humanitarian or other visa programs.

As Breitbart News has reported, South Africans are increasingly worried that the government’s plans to expropriate land from white farmers without compensation could destroy the economy and the country’s fragile democracy.

South Africa’s new president Cyril Ramaphosa has vowed to pursue the same course as Zimbabwe’s former leader Robert Mugabe in expropriating farmland from white farmers without compensation.

President Ramaphosa, who replaced Jacob Zuma after years of corruption scandals finally forced the 75-year-old from office, was cheered in the South African parliament as he pledged to “accelerate our land distribution programme … to redress a grave historical injustice [and] make more land available to our people for cultivation.”

Such is the level of violence in South Africa that thousands of mainly white, Afrikaans-speaking farmers have taken to the streets to protest and plead for help.

Last year the October 30th #BlackMonday protests were organised after civil rights group AfriForum released figures claiming the murder rate for South African farmers was 156 per 100,000 — putting it well above the already high national average and making farming arguably the most dangerous occupation in the world outside a warzone.

At the same time, the number of slain farmers, farm workers, and family members — most of them white — had hit 71, surpassing the estimated death toll for 2016.

Now Australia stands ready to offer help.

“If you look at the footage and read the stories, you hear the accounts, it’s a horrific circumstance they face,” Mr. Dutton told the Telegraph.

The home affairs minister noted Australia has refugee, humanitarian and other visa programs which have the “potential to help some of these people”. He said he had asked his department to look at the options “because from what I have seen they do do need help from a civilised country like ours”.

“The people we’re talking about want to work hard, they want to contribute to a country like Australia,” Mr. Dutton continued. “We want people who want to come here, abide by our laws, integrate into our society, work hard, not lead a life on welfare. And I think these people deserve special attention and we’re certainly applying that special attention now.”

Mr. Dutton suggested options included the in-country persecution visa category, and to bring them to Australia on humanitarian visas via referrals from others in Australia.

[Ender]

IIRC, there are interesting parallels between the history of the US (especially the west) and the Boers. There was a similar frontier, cowboy, individualistic "culture", and a rebellious attitude towards the rulers in Europe.

There was also the parallel of a bunch of savage natives that needed uprooting- all them Injuns & them Messicans. Especially considering America's Manifest Destiny. ;)

[Swordsmyth]

Looks like the Aussies are going to take them in.


Australia Examining Fast-Track Visas for Threatened South African Farmers

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/14/australia-examining-fast-track-visas-for-threatened-south-african-farmers/

by Simon Kent 14 Mar 2018

Australia is ready to consider issuing special visas to mainly white, Afrikaans-speaking South African farmers due to the “horrific circumstances” of land seizures, violence and murder they face.

Peter Dutton, Australia’s home affairs minister, told the Sydney Daily Telegraph on Wednesday his department was examining a range of methods to smooth their path to Australia on humanitarian or other visa programs.

As Breitbart News has reported, South Africans are increasingly worried that the government’s plans to expropriate land from white farmers without compensation could destroy the economy and the country’s fragile democracy.

South Africa’s new president Cyril Ramaphosa has vowed to pursue the same course as Zimbabwe’s former leader Robert Mugabe in expropriating farmland from white farmers without compensation.

President Ramaphosa, who replaced Jacob Zuma after years of corruption scandals finally forced the 75-year-old from office, was cheered in the South African parliament as he pledged to “accelerate our land distribution programme … to redress a grave historical injustice [and] make more land available to our people for cultivation.”

Such is the level of violence in South Africa that thousands of mainly white, Afrikaans-speaking farmers have taken to the streets to protest and plead for help.

Last year the October 30th #BlackMonday protests were organised after civil rights group AfriForum released figures claiming the murder rate for South African farmers was 156 per 100,000 — putting it well above the already high national average and making farming arguably the most dangerous occupation in the world outside a warzone.

At the same time, the number of slain farmers, farm workers, and family members — most of them white — had hit 71, surpassing the estimated death toll for 2016.

Now Australia stands ready to offer help.

“If you look at the footage and read the stories, you hear the accounts, it’s a horrific circumstance they face,” Mr. Dutton told the Telegraph.

The home affairs minister noted Australia has refugee, humanitarian and other visa programs which have the “potential to help some of these people”. He said he had asked his department to look at the options “because from what I have seen they do do need help from a civilised country like ours”.

“The people we’re talking about want to work hard, they want to contribute to a country like Australia,” Mr. Dutton continued. “We want people who want to come here, abide by our laws, integrate into our society, work hard, not lead a life on welfare. And I think these people deserve special attention and we’re certainly applying that special attention now.”

Mr. Dutton suggested options included the in-country persecution visa category, and to bring them to Australia on humanitarian visas via referrals from others in Australia.

Going anywhere is better than SA but Australia is anti-gun and being flooded with muslims, it may not be better than SA for much longer.

[Superfluous Man]

They are a branch of the same Christian European culture that we are from and they have similar leanings towards liberty.

America has no leanings towards liberty.

And again, who do you mean by "we"?

Do the people in America who are not Christian Europeans have any less of a claim on America than those who are?

[Swordsmyth]

There was also the parallel of a bunch of savage natives that needed uprooting- all them Injuns & them Messicans. Especially considering America's Manifest Destiny. ;)

If you believe "revisionist and liberal" historians over those who lived at the time.

[Lamp]

when the President of the country you live in sings celebratory songs about killing Boers and is making veiled threats, pretty sure its a legitimate reason to be concerned

When you are represented by two major legal political parties in parliament and control a major portion of the economy your not suffering an existential crisis. Some people are and this goes overlooked. Even now they are doing incredibly well outside of South Africa in countries like the UAE, Canada and Argentina after emigrating from South Africa legally which they could afford to do.

[Superfluous Man]

Looks like the Aussies are going to take them in.

I like that idea of fast-track visas. Don't allocate any funding to them, just let them come here and pay their way or find people to voluntarily help them.

Same goes for all other refugees.

[Swordsmyth]

America has no leanings towards liberty.
We have more than the rest of the world.




And again, who do you mean by "we"?

Do the people in America who are not Christian Europeans have any less of a claim on America than those who are?

Euro-Whites are the dominant culture in America, get over it, we have accepted more cultural elements from minorities than most other cultures have in history and we don't have to give up our own.

[Anti Federalist]

America has no leanings towards liberty.

Quite right.

Due in no small part to allowing the wretched refuse of every nation of the world to come here and stake a claim, without having the slightest notion or giving a solid fuck about how it takes a free society to create wealth and opportunity.

[Superfluous Man]

Due in no small part to allowing the wretched refuse of every nation of the world to come here and stake a claim, without having the slightest notion or giving a solid $#@! about how it takes a free society to create wealth and opportunity.

If I own land and sell it to someone you consider wretched refuse, that's between me and them. What business do you, or the rest of "America" have not allowing it?

[Swordsmyth]

If I own land and sell it to someone you consider wretched refuse, that's between me and them. What business do you, or the rest of "America" have not allowing it?
Because we have a right to keep out those who would erect a tyranny around us.

[Superfluous Man]

Euro-Whites are the dominant culture in America, get over it, we have accepted more cultural elements from minorities than most other cultures have in history and we don't have to give up our own.

Of course you don't have to give up your own. And letting me welcome someone else from some other culture onto my land, or selling my land to them, wouldn't entail you giving up one bit of your culture. It wouldn't be any of your business. And if it resulted in some combination of traits that you consider your culture no longer being the dominant one in some swath of land that you don't own but somehow still consider yours, but only by way of some inscrutable collectivist fallacy, it still wouldn't be any of your business.

You could still eat the same food, attend the same church, speak the same language, and preserve your race by teaching your kids only to marry other whites. All you would have to do is leave other people alone to exercise their rights.

[Superfluous Man]

Because we have a right to keep out those who would erect a tyranny around us.

You do have that right when it comes to your own property.

But you don't have any right to do that with my property.

The minute you insist on doing that, it becomes you who are propping up tyrannical erections.

[Anti Federalist]

If I own land and sell it to someone you consider wretched refuse, that's between me and them. What business do you, or the rest of "America" have not allowing it?

Because that guy turns around and votes against my best interests and liberty, votes to rob me using government proxies as his highwaymen.

If you sold your land to a bunch of crackheads who started robbing my house every chance they got, then it becomes my business.

[Superfluous Man]

If you sold your land to a bunch of crackheads who started robbing my house every chance they got, then it becomes my business.

Only once they robbed you, not before.

[Lamp]

Probably because no one wants to vote for a bunch of crackhead republicans who have already ruined their image and make little effort to appeal to others instead of masturbating to 10 commandments statues. At least Dems make an effort to appear like they care about the real issues. You cannot eat values and tradition I don't know a single person on the fucking planet who can do that.

[Brian4Liberty]

There was also the parallel of a bunch of savage natives that needed uprooting- all them Injuns & them Messicans. Especially considering America's Manifest Destiny. ;)

Yeah, and they were also a bit non-mainstream in their religious beliefs. Maybe their closest parallel is with the Mormons?

[Swordsmyth]

You do have that right when it comes to your own property.

But you don't have any right to do that with my property.

The minute you insist on doing that, it becomes you who are propping up tyrannical erections.

We have a self defense right to protect ourselves from tyranny, it requires the concept of group territory because that is how tyranny works.

[Ender]

If you believe "revisionist and liberal" historians over those who lived at the time.

Most "revisionist" history is true history- not the junk you learn in school.

Such as:

The first real republic in America was the Iroquois Nation. The leaders actually visited with the FF to discuss this and this was instrumental in bringing about the Constitution.

The savage scalpers in early America were the Brits, who were famous for it in Europe. In America they paid $20 a scalp for any Indian man, woman, or child. The Indians had a small amount of scalping in a few tribes for certain rites but it was the Brits that caused the backlash and made scalping prominent.

The only white men the Indians trusted were the Scots, who told the truth (and wore skirts.)

[Ender]

Yeah, and they were also a bit non-mainstream in their religious beliefs. Maybe their closest parallel is with the Mormons?

Mormons were definitely not main stream but they were driven out of America proper, partially because of their belief in ending slavery.

[Lamp]

Most "revisionist" history is true history- not the junk you learn in school.

Such as:

The first real republic in America was the Iroquois Nation. The leaders actually visited with the FF to discuss this and this was instrumental in bringing about the Constitution.

The savage scalpers in early America were the Brits, who were famous for it in Europe. In America they paid $20 a scalp for any Indian man, woman, or child. The Indians had a small amount of scalping in a few tribes for certain rites but it was the Brits that caused the backlash and made scalping prominent.

The only white men the Indians trusted were the Scots, who told the truth (and wore skirts.)

Also arguably the French to a certain extent.

[Swordsmyth]

Only once they robbed you, not before.

The glories of anarchy, no peace, no freedom, just eternal war against better organized tyrants.

[Ender]

The glories of anarchy, no peace, no freedom, just eternal war against better organized tyrants.

Freedom has a price- and anarchy isn't the problem.

Do you want Freedom or do you want The Truman Show?

[Raginfridus]

Yeah, and they were also a bit non-mainstream in their religious beliefs. Maybe their closest parallel is with the Mormons?

They were just Huguenots and Dutch Reformed Calvinists, like all Presbyterians in their day.

[Brian4Liberty]

Mormons were definitely not main stream but they were driven out of America proper, partially because of their belief in ending slavery.

Even better parallel then. The Boers were driven out of the Colony proper. Before Star Trek, there was Boer Trek...

[Raginfridus]

We have more than the rest of the world.





Euro-Whites are the dominant culture in America, get over it, we have accepted more cultural elements from minorities than most other cultures have in history and we don't have to give up our own.Euro-White isn't a culture or an ethnicity that can produce a culture.

But just how do you celebrate your Whiteness?

[Lamp]

Euro-White isn't a culture or an ethnicity that can produce a culture.

But just how do you celebrate your Whiteness?

Do Hungarians and Estonians count as Euro Whites?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Linguistic_map_of_the_Uralic_languages_%28en%29.pn g/800px-Linguistic_map_of_the_Uralic_languages_%28en%29.pn g

[axiomata]

Because we have a right to keep out those who would erect a tyranny around us.

Statistically, Hispanics support my libertarian ideology at a higher rate than women. Do I have to right to evict your wife from the country?

[Lamp]

As far as I know the upper peninsula in Michigan is majority Finnish. Finns are linguistically closer to Asiatic languages like Mongolian and Korean. That doesn't stop it from being Republican majority. Its not a blood thing.

[Raginfridus]

Because that guy turns around and votes against my best interests and liberty, votes to rob me using government proxies as his highwaymen.

If you sold your land to a bunch of crackheads who started robbing my house every chance they got, then it becomes my business.Before I sold the crackheads my land, I searched county records and read the deed myself, and to my surprise you've been squatting on my property - now theirs.

[Raginfridus]

Statistically, Hispanics support my libertarian ideology at a higher rate than women. Do I have to right to evict your wife from the country?Trolls marry?

[Ender]

Even better parallel then. The Boers were driven out of the Colony proper. Before Star Trek, there was SA trek...

Yes, except they did have slaves.

[Swordsmyth]

Bump to keep the petition links on the current page.

Petitions:

https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-tr...n-south-africa (https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-trump-genocide-of-whites-in-south-africa)

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ons-and-murder (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immigration-priority-south-african-farmers-facing-systematic-land-confiscations-and-murder)

[TheCount]

Stop with the race baiting, they are the descendants of Europeans who had a strong Christian ... culture

Like Hispanics, you mean?

[Swordsmyth]

Like Hispanics, you mean?

Hispanics for the most part embraced socialism far more than the Boers did and they aren't part of Northern European Culture like the Dutch nor is there a threat of genocide against them, but yes I would gladly substitute Hispanics for "refugees" with less cultural affinity if I couldn't stop the "refugee" program entirely.

[TheCount]

Hispanics for the most part embraced socialism far more than the Boers did

You mentioned liberty. The Boers disenfranchised and denied citizenship to anyone who was not a member of their race and church. They had forced conscription of all white males into their armed forces.

As for socialism, you clearly haven't bothered to read anything about the politics of the Boer republics and SAR, or you'd have learned about their explicitly socialist / national socialist political parties.


Northern European Culture

What's that high pitched whistling sound?

[kcchiefs6465]

You mentioned liberty. The Boers disenfranchised and denied citizenship to anyone who was not a member of their race and church. They had forced conscription of all white males into their armed forces.

As for socialism, you clearly haven't bothered to read anything about the politics of the Boer republics and SAR, or you'd have learned about their explicitly socialist / national socialist political parties.


[/FONT]
What's that high pitched whistling sound?
All well and good. I'm curious though how do you have all of the quotes from people... the search function on this site sucks.

Been saving random tidbits to highlight weeks or months later?

[Swordsmyth]

You mentioned liberty. The Boers disenfranchised and denied citizenship to anyone who was not a member of their race and church. They had forced conscription of all white males into their armed forces.

As for socialism, you clearly haven't bothered to read anything about the politics of the Boer republics and SAR, or you'd have learned about their explicitly socialist / national socialist political parties.

I never said they were perfect nor did I say I would bring them here if I could get rid of the "refugee" program instead but the Hispanics are much more socialist.




What's that high pitched whistling sound?
Maybe you should get your ears checked, Northern European culture is a subset of European culture and therefore members share a closer cultural affinity than those who are only part of broader European culture.

[TheCount]

All well and good. I'm curious though how do you have all of the quotes from people... the search function on this site sucks.

Been saving random tidbits to highlight weeks or months later?

No, I don't have a file of quotes or anything.

I use the advanced search and click on the 'single content type' tab and then show posts rather than threads. It's much better.

[Ender]

I never said they were perfect nor did I say I would bring them here if I could get rid of the "refugee" program instead but the Hispanics are much more socialist.



Maybe you should get your ears checked, Northern European culture is a subset of European culture and therefore members share a closer cultural affinity than those who are only part of broader European culture.

Here's a list of the most socialist nations from 2012. None of these are Hispanic.


The term socialist has been thrown around quite a bit in the past few years. Not since the cold war has the term garnered so much attention in the press and from politicians. But when you look at countries who actually have a socialist economic structure, you can see some similarities to the United States – but there are some really stark differences.

Below, you will see some of the most socialistic nations in the world today:

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium

http://blog.peerform.com/top-ten-most-socialist-countries-in-the-world/

[Swordsmyth]

Here's a list of the most socialist nations from 2012. None of these are Hispanic.



http://blog.peerform.com/top-ten-most-socialist-countries-in-the-world/

How did Cuba and Valenzuela not make the list?

In any case it doesn't matter, I was speaking of a comparison between most Hispanic countries and the Boers not of the most socialist nations from 2012.

[Ender]

How did Cuba and Valenzuela not make the list?

In any case it doesn't matter, I was speaking of a comparison between most Hispanic countries and the Boers not of the most socialist nations from 2012.

This one has 19 countries listed that include a couple of Hispanic countries.

https://www.thetoptens.com/socialist-countries/

And, in my own personal experience I have found Latinos to be the hardest workers I have ever know, plus very family oriented and Christian.

JMHPOV

[Swordsmyth]

South Africa demanded on Thursday that Australian Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton retract comments that suggested white farmers were being persecuted and deserved protection with special visas from a "civilised country".Pretoria hauled in Canberra's High Commissioner for a diplomatic ticking off over Dutton's remarks, which also included a description of white farmers facing "horrific circumstances" - a characterisation South Africa has rejected.
"The South African government is offended by the statements which have been attributed to the Australian Home Affairs Minister and a full retraction is expected," the foreign ministry said in a statement.
Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop on Friday sidestepped a direct question about whether Australia would retract the statements, saying the High Commissioner has regular discussions with the South African government "on a range of issues and concerns" and citing the country's high murder rates.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-africa-demands-australian-minister-retract-white-farmer-174908479.html


Petitions:

https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-tr...n-south-africa (https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-trump-genocide-of-whites-in-south-africa)

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ons-and-murder (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immigration-priority-south-african-farmers-facing-systematic-land-confiscations-and-murder)

[Anti Federalist]

South Africa demanded on Thursday that Australian Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton retract comments that suggested white farmers were being persecuted and deserved protection with special visas from a "civilised country".Pretoria hauled in Canberra's High Commissioner for a diplomatic ticking off over Dutton's remarks, which also included a description of white farmers facing "horrific circumstances" - a characterisation South Africa has rejected.
"The South African government is offended by the statements which have been attributed to the Australian Home Affairs Minister and a full retraction is expected," the foreign ministry said in a statement.
Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop on Friday sidestepped a direct question about whether Australia would retract the statements, saying the High Commissioner has regular discussions with the South African government "on a range of issues and concerns" and citing the country's high murder rates.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-africa-demands-australian-minister-retract-white-farmer-174908479.html


Petitions:

https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-tr...n-south-africa (https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-trump-genocide-of-whites-in-south-africa)

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ons-and-murder (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immigration-priority-south-african-farmers-facing-systematic-land-confiscations-and-murder)

Hahhah, well that's the end of that.

Tough luck Boers.

Lesson learned: Interact with your own kind only.

Hahhah, can't do that either.

[TheCount]

It's weird that VDare is pushing this. They're supposed to be anti-immigration, and for keeping America American. (http://www.vdare.com/about)

What is it about bringing these white South Africans to the US that fits with that mission?

Gee, it's a mystery. Maybe their goals aren't quite what they proclaim them to be...

[Swordsmyth]

Gee, it's a mystery. Maybe their goals aren't quite what they proclaim them to be...

Maybe they would just rather have the Boers replace the other "refugees" that are even less culturally compatible if we can't get rid of the refugee program entirely.

[Swordsmyth]

IF WHITE farmers want to flee for a “racist country” like Australia they should leave the keys to their houses and tractors behind, the head of South Africa’s radical Marxist opposition party says.
But Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) leader Julius Malema, who recently declared his party was “cutting the throat of whiteness”, denied white farmers were being killed (http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/young-boy-forced-to-watch-mums-repeated-violent-sexual-assault-in-south-africa-farm-attack/news-story/09785cd0d06c221eab6b6c6115057a7a). “We don’t know violence, we know negotiations,” Malema told a packed Human Rights Day rally in Mpumalanga Stadium on Wednesday.
“And we are very robust in our engagement sometimes. A racist country like Australia says: ‘The white farmers are being killed in South Africa.’ We are not killing them. Now Australia says: ‘Malema, EFF want to kill white farmers, they must come to Australia.’
“If they want to go, they must go. They must leave the keys to their tractors because we want to work the land, they must leave the keys to their houses because we want to stay in those houses. They must leave everything they did not come here with in South Africa and go to Australia.”
His comments came as Australian Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton stared down criticism from “crazy lefties” as he pushed on with plans to bring white South African farmers to Australia.
“They don’t realise how completely dead they are to me,” Mr Dutton told Sydney radio station 2GB on Thursday.

More at: http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/south-african-politician-says-australia-is-a-racist-country-farmers-should-leave-the-keys-when-they-go/news-story/e98607c4fa66d30d9b2731aa30e2a956

[Swordsmyth]

One White Farmer Killed in South Africa Every Five Dayshttp://www.independentsentinel.com/one-white-farmer-killed-in-south-africa-every-five-days/

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Fear has South African farmers fleeing from land grab terror

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/foreign-affairs/fear-has-south-african-farmers-fleeing-from-land-grab-terror/news-story/6cc10a937e6cf0489dec1cba1aa80e22

The Australian12:00AM March 16, 2018

South African farmer Gert du Plessis grew up on, farmed and inherited a 2000ha spread in Eastern Transvaal, and like most Afrikaners, he felt bound to the land and the black workers he employed to help him grow corn and raise cattle.

“I had been there all my life, I was on that farm for 50 years,” Mr du Plessis told The Australian yesterday.

What happened to fellow farmer and friend Thys Boshoff gave him second thoughts.

“The people just got into the place and got some money, and when he didn’t open the safe, they just shot him dead,” Mr du Plessis said. “Then they ordered his wife to open the safe, but she didn’t have a key, so they shot her hand off and left.”

Mr du Plessis and his family moved to Australia three years ago to avoid the fate of the Boshoffs — getting out ahead of the terror now being exacted on white farmers at an alarming rate. One or two are reportedly being murdered every week.

Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said this week the *growing violence against white farmers, whom he described as persecuted, had impelled him to ask his department to see if it could come up with ways to receive more of them as migrants to Australia, including under the humanitarian “in-country persecution” visa category.

The South African government yesterday issued a reply denying it was persecuting anyone, and expressed “regret” that Australia had not raised the matter through diplomatic channels. “There is no reason for any government in the world to suspect that a section of South Africans is under danger from their own democratically elected government,” the foreign ministry said.

Mr du Plessis said the South African government was “politically correct in saying they don’t persecute the farmers in South Africa,” but that was just through a sleight of hand. “When there is a farm attacked, they don’t see it as a farm attack, they put it down as a robbery, and say ‘unfortunately there were people killed in the robbery’,” he said.

The problem, Mr du Plessis said, was that while the government did not approve of illegal takeovers of white land because it would produce anarchy, its policy of forcibly appropriating such land without compensation encouraged it.

“It is not safe for a white South African to farm in South Africa,” Mr du Plessis said.

In his case, a group of black men who worked for him camped outside on the lawn one morning. “They said they want the property,” Mr du Plessis said.

“I just told them the property is mine, and they must leave. So I called the police. They came only to protect them from me.”

He and his family felt persecuted, and decided to get out. In 2015 they moved to a farm they have leased near Uki in northeast NSW, where they run cattle. They came on a business visa *because they had the money and experience to start an enterprise, but since then, their fate in *obtaining permanent residency has varied among them.

Mr du Plessis’s two elder daughters, Cindie, who works as a teacher, and Karien, who is an *environmental officer, have become permanent residents on the basis they are skilled migrants.

Mr du Plessis, his wife Martie, and their youngest daughter *Anette have applied for permanent residence, but are still waiting for it to be granted. Their business visas have expired and they now are on bridging visas.

It’s a problem identified by South African-born immigration agent Letitia De Lima who runs the practice Visas-R-Us on the Gold Coast. While Afrikaners are highly skilled farmers, they may have more handed-down practical knowledge than formal education, and those are not skills that count much for Australian immigration purposes.

Ms De Lima said it was also hard for them to qualify as refugees from persecution, because they had to prove there was no authority to protect them. The South African police say they do, even though they don’t, in large part due to lack of resources.

The Australian spoke with several Afrikaners who had migrated to Australia and had lost family on farms, and some still in South Africa. They welcomed Mr Dutton’s initiative. It was heartening to see “Australia reaching out to our farmers,” said Sonja van *Niekerk from her dairy farm in Northwest Province.

Ms van Niekerk is the principal of a school with 800 black children, and said “we have very good relations” with the community. “We are peaceful people, we don’t carry guns,” she said,

But that didn’t stop a group of blacks a bit over a year ago from attacking her husband Johan with knives, leaving him among other serious injuries with damaged vocal chords so he has difficulty speaking.

“It is a miracle that he is still alive,” Ms van Niekerk said.

Asked what had happened in the way of arrest or prosecution of the suspects, Ms van Niekerk said: “Nothing.”


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Johannesburg (AFP) - The Pretoria government hailed Monday what it said was a decision by Australia to go back on plans to offer fast-track humanitarian visas to "persecuted" white farmers in South Africa.
Australian Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton triggered outrage last month when he said the farmers deserved special attention for acceptance in his country on refugee or humanitarian grounds.
Dutton, who has drawn international criticism for heading a tough crackdown on asylum-seekers from Asia and the Middle East, said the plan would enable the farmers to flee their "horrific circumstances" for a "civilised country".
His offer was in response to a pledge by the South African government to enact land expropriations without compensation to redress land confiscations of the colonial and apartheid era.
Pretoria subsequently summoned Australia's envoy to South Africa.
"We have received a letter from the (Australian ministry of) foreign affairs that indicated that what was said by the minister of home affairs is not the position of the government of Australia," foreign ministry spokesman Ndivhuwo Mabaya told AFP on Monday.
"We also had a meeting with the high commissioner [ambassador] who conveyed a message from the prime minister, who said the same thing, to indicate that this is not the view of their government."
South African Foreign Minister Lindiwe Sisulu said Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Foreign Minister Julie Bishop had made a "retraction" of Dutton's comments, and she welcomed it.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/africa-hails-australia-retraction-offer-white-farmers-150521709.html

[Swordsmyth]

Bump to keep the petition links on the current page.

Petitions:

https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-tr...n-south-africa (https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-trump-genocide-of-whites-in-south-africa)

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ons-and-murder (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immigration-priority-south-african-farmers-facing-systematic-land-confiscations-and-murder)

[Swordsmyth]

More than 200 farmers from South Africa have applied for humanitarian visas in Australia after allegedly suffering attacks for being white, according to the Australian Home Affairs Ministry.
“The type of criteria they of course have to meet – or the key one – is evidence of persecution, so that’s exactly what we will be looking at,” Home Affairs Deputy Secretary Malisa Golightly said. Home Affairs said 89 refugee visa applications relating to 213 people had been received, although they did not specify their ethnicity or any other details.

More at: https://www.infowars.com/white-south-african-farmers-claiming-persecution-at-home-seek-refuge-in-australia/

[TheCount]

The Australian government should reject refugees from violent, unfree shithole countries lest they import that violence and lack of freedom to Australia.

[Swordsmyth]

The Australian government should reject refugees from violent, unfree $#@!hole countries lest they import that violence and lack of freedom to Australia.
The Boers are a different culture than those who are destroying S. Africa.
Australia would however be within its rights to decide either way about granting asylum but since they are currently letting in hordes of barbarians it would begin to look like anti-white racism if they didn't let in the Boers while letting in the others.

[Swordsmyth]

Earlier this week while most of the world was transfixed on the World Cup, the Trump/Kim handshake, or a multitude of other sundry events, Julius Malema, aka the Hitler of South Africa, was busy telling white people in his country that he’s not going wage genocide against them. Yet.
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/malema.png
In an interview with TRT World News (https://www.huffingtonpost.co.za/2018/06/12/malema-we-have-not-called-for-the-killing-of-white-people-at-least-for-now_a_23456601/) published this week, Malema said, “We have not called for the killing of white people. At least for now. I can’t guarantee the future.”
When the reporter mentioned that some people might view these remarks as a call to genocide, Malema responded, “Crybabies. Crybabies,” but later warned white South Africans that “the masses are on board” for “an un-led revolution and anarchy”.
Malema is a prominent politician in South Africa and at the forefront of his country’s movement to confiscate land from white property owners and redistribute it to the country’s black population.
No actual specifics about the plan have been revealed, of course.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-15/hitler-south-africa-tells-white-people-he-wont-kill-themyet

[merkelstan]

I heard that 80 percent of South African blacks are from families that moved TO South Africa, WHILE it was an Apartheid regime....

Why did a little clique of conspirators change both Canadian and US immigration laws in the 60s and 70s from ones that preserved the majority white demographic to ones that eliminate it? Why did the floodgates open to Europe with millions of africans and arabs entering illegally, with no consequences to either them or the people who organized the mass migration?

Can we forever keep ignoring that there is a racist war against whites and white nations underway, and the weapons in play are the media, the schools, and the state?

If you are being targeted as a race, is it 'racist' to engage in defensive measures? If you are at war and the enemy is using coercion against you, maybe you need to sieze the institutions, and use coercion in self defense.

[Swordsmyth]

South Africa’s ruling party has decided to push for the right to seize land without compensation for redistribution to black citizens because it feels that the time has come for the 24-year old democracy to tackle an issue that divides the nation once infamous for a legislated system of racial segregation, a leading politician said.
An earlier attempt to take land without paying for it could have jeopardized investor confidence in the economy in the sensitive years after the end of white rule while waiting further could stoke anger in a country where more than a quarter are unemployed and inequality rates are among the highest in the world, said Zweli Mkhize, the minister of cooperative governance and traditional affairs.


“If we don’t raise it now, we’ll never have time to,” said Mkhize, who is also a member of the African National Congress’s top decision-making executive committee. Land ownership, health and education are some basic things that people require and “if you don’t provide that, it doesn’t matter who you are, you get out of power.”
The ANC, which has led the country since Nelson Mandela became its first black president in 1994, decided at a December conference to pursue expropriation without compensation to speed up giving black people more land. In February, lawmakers started the process to change the constitution to allow for that and public hearings on the matter kicked off last week and will conclude early next month

More at: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rica-land-push (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-02/anc-to-balance-white-fear-black-anger-in-south-africa-land-push)

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A delegation of 30 South African farming families has arrived in Russia’s farmbelt Stavropol region, Rossiya 1 TV channel reports. The group says it is facing violent attacks and death threats at home.
Up to 15,000 Boers, descendants of Dutch settlers in South Africa, are planning to move to Russia amid rising violence stemming from government plans to expropriate their land, according to the delegation.


The farmers are ready to make a contribution to Russia’s booming agricultural sector, according to Rossiya 1. Each family is ready to bring up to $100,000 for leasing the land.
Russia has 43 million hectares of unused farmland. The country has recently begun giving out free land to Russian citizens to cultivate farming. The land giveaway program, which began in 2014, has been a huge success.

More at: https://www.infowars.com/report-1500...uge-in-russia/ (https://www.infowars.com/report-15000-white-south-african-farmers-seek-refuge-in-russia/)

[Swordsmyth]

South Africa to finalize plans to seize white farmers land (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?524885-South-Africa-to-finalize-plans-to-seize-white-farmers-land)