Conservative leader on Trump: 'He's a fraud and has betrayed us twice now'

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Silverlining here may be that Trump support among democrats should increase after his recent statements:


'Gun-grabber-in-chief': Conservatives turn on Trump as threat to confiscate guns prompts Second Amendment-related outrage

'He's a fraud and has betrayed us twice now'

Thursday 1 March 2018

Donald Trump has sparked fury among gun owners and conservatives after repeatedly backing proposals to tighten gun control laws.

The US President called for a “beautiful” bill (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-take-guns-mental-health-florida-school-shooting-due-process-a8233751.html) that would expand background checks on gun buyers, prevent mentally ill people from accessing firearms, and restrict teenagers from buying assault weapons.

The 71-year-old's comments in the hour-long televised meeting with politicians put him at odds with the National Rifle Association (NRA), the gun lobbying organisation which made record contributions to his 2016 presidential campaign.

Read more



Trump's angered his base over guns, but it could be the making of him (http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-nra-take-guns-white-house-background-checks-meeting-angry-supporters-a8233856.html)
Trump says 'Take guns first, worry about due process later' (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-take-guns-mental-health-florida-school-shooting-due-process-a8233751.html)
Trump says some in Congress are petrified by NRA (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-congress-petrified-nra-power-age-buy-gun-violence-a8233761.html)


Michael Hammond, lawyer for Gun Owners of America, another gun group with more than a million members, accused Mr Trump of becoming the “gun-grabber-in-chief”.

“If he succeeds in doing everything he talked about in the meeting, he will far surpass Barack Obama (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/BarackObama) as an enemy of the Second Amendment,” he said.
After the meeting, far-right news outlet Breitbart (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/breitbart) ran a headline reading: "Trump the Gun Grabber: Cedes Dems' Wish List— Bump Stocks, Buying Age, 'Assault Weapons,' Background Checks.”
Many conservatives also took to social media to express their outrage.
Tonight's Podcast: Trump was terrible today during a bipartisan meeting on guns, said due process should come after gun confiscation, more. https://t.co/5ZYR7TNFiZ #tcot (https://twitter.com/hashtag/tcot?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) March 1, 2018 (https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/969074767268638720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

Democrat Joe Manchin and Republican Pat Toomey, who were both at the White House meeting, now plan to reintroduce a failed 2013 bill that would impose background checks for all commercial gun purchases.
Mr Trump accused Mr Toomey of being “afraid of the NRA” after the senator told the President his bill did not include a ban on 18- to 21-year-olds buying assault weapons.
“Some of you people are petrified of the NRA. You can’t be petrified,” he added.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-gun-control-confiscate-second-amendment-right-bear-arms-nra-conservative-republicans-a8234606.html




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What is confusing is that even moderate Republican like MR had earlier used similar terms for the deal maker leader:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cco1T5QW4AA9WYj.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

No he's not.

He's on record over the years as being in favor of gun bans and all sorts of gun control.

The frauds and cheats and swindlers in this monumental cluster fuck are the people who sold him to a gullible public as being something other than what he is: a politically unprincipled liberal from NYC.

[ILUVRP]

about me , 13yrs military , guns i fired .22 up to 20mm gatling gun , i load my own bullets , i have 3 guns , the 2nd says nothing about ammo , i would look for the goverment to put a 1000% tax on bullets .

in 1791 when the 2nd was adopted people had single shot flintlock pistols and muskets , i say let everyone that wants a single shot rifle or pistol its ok .

the only neocon that i have read about that had a gun was dick cheney , while hunting he shot his hunting partner in the face with a shotgun in 2006 .

the 2nd says nothing about age while everyone says its ok for 17 year olds ( i agree if a person had military time ) to buy a gun , if age is no problem why stop at 17 years old , let 12 years old kids buy a gun .

[Swordsmyth]

about me , 13yrs military , guns i fired .22 up to 20mm gatling gun , i load my own bullets , i have 3 guns , the 2nd says nothing about ammo , i would look for the goverment to put a 1000% tax on bullets .

in 1791 when the 2nd was adopted people had single shot flintlock pistols and muskets , i say let everyone that wants a single shot rifle or pistol its ok .

the only neocon that i have read about that had a gun was dick cheney , while hunting he shot his hunting partner in the face with a shotgun in 2006 .

the 2nd says nothing about age while everyone says its ok for 17 year olds ( i agree if a person had military time ) to buy a gun , if age is no problem why stop at 17 years old , let 12 years old kids buy a gun .

Your rambling insanity befits your position on guns.

[CCTelander]

No he's not.

He's on record over the years as being in favor of gun bans and all sorts of gun control.

The frauds and cheats and swindlers in this monumental cluster fuck are the people who sold him to a gullible public as being something other than what he is: a politically unprincipled liberal from NYC.


^^^^^This. There is NOTHING to be surprised about. It has all been perfectly predictable.

[dannno]

^^^^^This. There is NOTHING to be surprised about. It has all been perfectly predictable.

Even Scott Adams in his video stream today said exactly what I said, Trump was just throwing cold water on the fire so we can move on.

Dilbert, man, c'mon..

[juleswin]

about me , 13yrs military , guns i fired .22 up to 20mm gatling gun , i load my own bullets , i have 3 guns , the 2nd says nothing about ammo , i would look for the goverment to put a 1000% tax on bullets .

in 1791 when the 2nd was adopted people had single shot flintlock pistols and muskets , i say let everyone that wants a single shot rifle or pistol its ok .

the only neocon that i have read about that had a gun was dick cheney , while hunting he shot his hunting partner in the face with a shotgun in 2006 .

the 2nd says nothing about age while everyone says its ok for 17 year olds ( i agree if a person had military time ) to buy a gun , if age is no problem why stop at 17 years old , let 12 years old kids buy a gun .

I agree, I guess it would also be OK for govt to put a 1000% tax on sending email, posting on forums and writing equipment. Heck the 1st amendment never said anything about email or shyte posting on forums.

So yea, that wouldn't be OK for govt to impede by ability to buy bullets for my gun.

[juleswin]

^^^^^This. There is NOTHING to be surprised about. It has all been perfectly predictable.

Not to Romney. He is the same person that came to Trump trying to get a position in his cabinet. I dunno what Trump told him to show up but he of all people should have known that he is not to be trusted.

[Raginfridus]

about me , 13yrs military , guns i fired .22 up to 20mm gatling gun , i load my own bullets , i have 3 guns , the 2nd says nothing about ammo , i would look for the goverment to put a 1000% tax on bullets .

in 1791 when the 2nd was adopted people had single shot flintlock pistols and muskets , i say let everyone that wants a single shot rifle or pistol its ok .

the only neocon that i have read about that had a gun was dick cheney , while hunting he shot his hunting partner in the face with a shotgun in 2006 .

the 2nd says nothing about age while everyone says its ok for 17 year olds ( i agree if a person had military time ) to buy a gun , if age is no problem why stop at 17 years old , let 12 years old kids buy a gun .Your time in the military means fuck all pardner. Conscription for Freedom is also horseshit.

[enhanced_deficit]

No he's not.

He's on record over the years as being in favor of gun bans and all sorts of gun control.

The frauds and cheats and swindlers in this monumental cluster $#@! are the people who sold him to a gullible public as being something other than what he is: a politically unprincipled liberal from NYC.


While you have a point to an extent, he did present himself as a born-again conservative Republican in 2016 electioning season on NRA/guns, foreign wars spending etc. So can't entirely blame them if any 2nd amend champions feel let down.
Also, in the face of HRC deceptions and Obama 8 years agony, many peoples were ready to take a risky chance on a candidate with strong skills to pander & to attack Obama/media/opponents etc.

[enhanced_deficit]

To be fair, NRA was very active in supporting Trump election.

https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/20170331-AmRiflemanApril2017-415x600.png

[kpitcher]

, if age is no problem why stop at 17 years old , let 12 years old kids buy a gun .
In my state you have to be 14 to hunt with a license on public land. Younger than that you can hunt on private land. An education class is required for 10 year olds. So 12 year olds buying guns wouldn't be all that strange.

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Florida Gov. Rick Scott breaks with NRA to sign new gun regulation (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/florida-gov-rick-scott-breaks-with-nra-to-sign-new-gun-regulation/2018/03/09/e5d1f02e-23b2-11e8-86f6-54bfff693d2b_story.html)
Washington Post 28m ago

Florida Gov. Rick Scott defied his longtime allies at the National Rifle Association Friday to sign into law a new set of gun regulations, three weeks after a school shooting claimed 17 lives in his state. “I am going to do what I think are common sense solutions,” Scott said after the signing. “I think this is the beginning. There is now going to be a real conversation about how we make our schools safe.”

The law, passed by Republican legislative leaders and a number of Democrats, marks a major shift for a state known as a laboratory for gun rights legislation, including legal protections for people who use guns in self-defense and an expansive concealed carry law.







Un-related

Has Jared Kushner Conspired to Defraud America?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/opinion/jared-kushner-conspiracy-fraud.html

[enhanced_deficit]

So Alex Jones and Tucker/Coulter are Trump critics now?

But unlike Tucker/Coluter, shocking language AJ used about sitting POTUS after recent Syria bombing crossed so many lines :


So Alex Jones FINALLY has enough of Trump? "He just crapped all over us!" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?521316-So-Alex-Jones-FINALLY-has-enough-of-Trump-quot-He-just-crapped-all-over-us%21-quot&)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EclCQAnqLrw



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YdInfbywPA




Right wing of GOP starting to turn on Trump? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518780-Right-wing-of-GOP-starting-to-turn-on-Trump&)



Trump's Friends At Breitbart Brand Him 'Amnesty Don' Over DACA Comments

By Harriet Sinclair On 1/25/18

President Donald Trump’s love of nicknames is well known: from his blasting of presidential rival “Crooked Hillary” Clinton in 2016 to his most recent “Cryin’ Chuck” Schumer.

But Trump is unlikely to appreciate the resurgence of the name bestowed upon him by right wing website Breitbart (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/24/trump-says-hes-open-to-u-s-citizenship-for-daca-illegal-aliens/) this week: “Amnesty Don.”
The former home of Trump’s ex-chief strategist Steve Bannon lashed out at the president on Wednesday over his comments that he would be open to finding a route to citizenship for recipients of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program (DACA).


“We're going to morph into it. It's going to happen at some point in the future," Trump said.
“If they do a great job, I think it's a nice thing to have the incentive of, after a period of years, being able to become a citizen," he added, also saying Dreamers should “not be concerned,” CNN reported (https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/24/politics/trump-citizenship/index.html).
But his comments appear to have angered some of his alt-right supporters.
Breitbart, which is mentioned in tell-all book Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House as being a media outlet whose backing the president does not want to lose, slammed Trump’s DACA comments as being a U-turn on his immigration policies and describing recipients of DACA as “illegal aliens.”



http://www.newsweek.com/trump-britbart-daca-790308


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/28/trump-administration-has-deported-fewer-illegal-mexican-immigrants-than-obama-data-shows.html




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n3dCNCHyLY

H-1B Visas Would Not Be Extended Under Trump's Latest Proposal, Reports Say (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518194-H-1B-Visas-Would-Not-Be-Extended-Under-Trump-s-Latest-Proposal-Reports-Say&)

Rupert Murdoch 'called Donald Trump a f****** idiot', claims new book (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-murdoch-idiot-book-claims-latest-michael-wolff-a8140771.html)
The Independent Jan 3, 2018
Mr Murdoch allegedly suggested that it might be difficult to reconcile the administration’s stance on building a roughly 2,000-mile long wall along the US-Mexico border with a favourable, more open stance towards H1B-based immigration.
“But Trump seemed unconcerned, assuring Murdoch, ‘We’ll figure it out.’ ‘What a fucking idiot,’ said Murdoch, shrugging, as he got off the phone,” wrote Mr Wolff in the book.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cq3mfo-WAAAv9OJ.jpg



Trump’s immigration meeting was lowest day of presidency: Ann Coulter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHzUOLOC5eQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHzUOLOC5eQ



Trump Appears to Endorse Path to Citizenship for Millions of Immigrants
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/u...migration.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/us/politics/trump-daca-immigration.html)
2 days ago - WASHINGTON — President Trump on Tuesday appeared open to negotiating a sweeping immigration deal that would eventually grant millions of undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship, declaring that he was willing to “take the heat” politically for an approach that seemed to flatly contradict the ...

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NRA Convention Will Allow Guns, Except When Trump and Pence Speak

(https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http://time.com/5260099/nra-convention-guns-trump-pence/)President Trump Calls for the White House Correspondents' Dinner to be 'Put to Rest'

By Associated Press 2:05 PM EDT


(DALLAS) — Attendees at the National Rifle Association’s annual meeting in Dallas can carry their firearms — except during the forum where President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence speak Friday.
A White House official said Monday that Trump will attend Friday. Pence had already been slated to speak at Friday’s leadership forum,
The NRA has said on its website that due to Pence’s attendance, the U.S. Secret Service is responsible for security then. It’s standard for the Secret Service to bar firearms from being carried into places visited by the people they protect, regardless of state laws.



http://time.com/5260099/nra-convention-guns-trump-pence/

[enhanced_deficit]

Although he seems to be flip flopping again, this criticism seems bit too cold:

No guns allowed at Trump's appearance at NRA convention. Gun-control activists see hypocrisy, what about you?

Dan Sweeney

NRA members had already been informed that they wouldn’t be able to bring firearms (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-reg-nra-to-ban-guns-for-pence-speech-parkland-students-see-hypocrisy-20180430-story.html) (or drones, knives and a list of other banned items) into a speech by Vice President Mike Pence (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/topic/politics-government/mike-pence-PEPLT005131-topic.html) at the organization’s annual convention in Texas this weekend.
With the announcement that President Donald Trump (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/topic/politics-government/donald-trump-PEBSL000163-topic.html) will also make an appearance (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/ct-trump-nra-20180430-story.html), that’s two speakers that attendees who cling to their guns will be unable to hear in person.
The rules are not those of the NRA, of course, leaders of which have long maintained that, as NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/topic/politics-government/wayne-lapierre-PEPLT0008961-topic.html) has put it, “The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun.”
And appearances by Pence and Trump will be guarded by Secret Service — plenty of good guys with guns in the room.
But the NRA has also been critical of so-called “gun free zones” — including schools where Floridians with concealed carry permits are not allowed to bring their firearms. Florida schools now have a mandate to have armed security at every school in the state.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-reg-nra-convention-pence-gun-ban-20180430-story.html

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NR article in response to NYT article last week linking 2nd amend & slavery:

An Unconvincing Case That Slavery Taints the Second Amendment

By Charles C. W. Cooke
May 25, 2018 12:21 PM





Carl Bogus (YouTube screengrab via RT) A New York Times piece leaves out key details that devastate its narrative. In the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/opinion/second-amendment-slavery-james-madison.html), Carl Bogus attempts to taint the Second Amendment by linking it to America’s greatest historical evil, slavery. I say “attempt” because Bogus doesn’t make an argument so much as he insinuates, gestures, and implies perfidy with a wink. Where there should be glue, there is handwaving instead. Where one would expect a joint, there is an ellipsis, a “may be,” or a hard-turned “I believe it likely.” As is typical of the genre, the result is as transparent as it is shoddy.

Bogus’s central claim is that the Second Amendment’s “genesis was, at least in part, a concern with preserving a form of governmental tyranny?” You’ll note the cop-out question mark in that sentence — a trick that is also used in the title, “Was Slavery a Factor in the Second Amendment?” To get to this explosive conclusion, Bogus selectively recounts the “background” against which the Bill of Rights was passed, and then, in a remarkable jump, proposes that the context he provides must serve as the best explanation for why at least one state, Virginia, ratified the Bill of Rights, and with it the Second Amendment. Such as it is, Bogus’s case runs like this:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/second-amendment-slavery-nyt-piece-misleading-claims/

[Jamesiv1]

Haters gonna hate.

I'm sure there are some Hillary-lovers that are also members of the NRA.

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'Gun-grabber-in-chief': Conservatives turn on Trump as threat to confiscate guns prompts Second Amendment-related outrage

'He's a fraud and has betrayed us twice now'

Thursday 1 March 2018


Looking at the bright side, US 2nd amendment gun rights are still better than many other non-freedom countries:

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/plaintalk.net/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/97/f970ed18-895d-11e8-90ab-8766712e6c83/5b4d41f3a6c33.image.jpg?resize=300%2C388

[thoughtomator]

The reality is that there is no such bill and therefore nothing to sign. And it's unlikely there will be any such bill under GOP control of Congress, certainly none that would make it through both chambers.

GOA needs to fire this irresponsible big mouthed lawyer.

[enhanced_deficit]

Here they go again:

NRA uses Trump speech to attack Manchin's gun rights stance

By JOHN RABY Associated Press
September 5, 2018

CHARLESTON, W.Va. — The National Rifle Association is going after the gun-rights stance of U.S. Sen. Joe Manchin in a television ad using a speech by President Donald Trump in the moderate Democrat's home state.
Trump, at a recent appearance in Charleston, West Virginia, endorsed Manchin's opponent this fall, Republican state Attorney General Patrick Morrisey. Without going into specifics about Manchin, Trump told the audience that Democrats want to take away Second Amendment rights.
In the 30-second television advertisement , the NRA says Manchin, now running for a second full six-year term, "is part of the problem." NRA spokeswoman Amy Hunter said in an email the senator doesn't support gun owners' rights to defend themselves.
This is the first of many campaigns in which the NRA expects to weigh in. Other likely targets could include Senate races in North Dakota, Indiana and other red-state contests. Manchin is facing the most difficult re-election campaign of his 30-year career in a state where Trump claimed his largest margin of victory in 2016. The NRA's political arm had endorsed Manchin in the 2012 Senate race.
On Wednesday, Manchin's campaign quickly responded that the senator will continue to defend gun rights.




Related

'Take the Guns First.' President Trump's Latest Comments on Gun Control Defy the NRA
http://time.com/5179995/donald-trump-nra-gun-control-comments/

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Haters gonna hate.

I'm sure there are some Hillary-lovers that are also members of the NRA.

Good point, could be.

By the same token, could be some Pelosi lovers (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528188-Trump-quot-Nancy-Pelosi-loves-this-country-quot&) there too.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e4/10/14/e41014339d49854f1f01a47fe78e7db1.jpg



(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528483-Trump-%91I-Like-Nancy-Pelosi%92-and-Will-Help-Her-Win-Race-for-Speaker&p=6709697&viewfull=1#post6709697)Trump: ‘I Like Nancy Pelosi’ and Will Help Her Win Race for Speaker (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528483-Trump-%91I-Like-Nancy-Pelosi%92-and-Will-Help-Her-Win-Race-for-Speaker&p=6709697&viewfull=1#post6709697)

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The reality is that there is no such bill and therefore nothing to sign. And it's unlikely there will be any such bill under GOP control of Congress, certainly none that would make it through both chambers.


True that but Dems control House now and Pelosi is being supported by MAGA.

[enhanced_deficit]

Unfortunately, this development might not be helpful to save MAGA's splintering caolition. It was a nobel bi-partisan effort by America First team for sake of unity to bring together Gun owners of America, hardcore conservatives, moderate Dems like Pelosi and Adelson under a big tent.

Federal Appeals Court Upholds New Jersey ‘High Capacity’ Magazine Ban (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529070-Federal-Appeals-Court-Upholds-New-Jersey-‘High-Capacity’-Magazine-Ban&)

Tucker Carlson: Trump has failed to keep his promises (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529058-Tucker-Carlson-Trump-has-failed-to-keep-his-promises&)

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On the heels of leak that MAGA's first SCOTUS pick was CFR member, his second pick is also not sitting well with GOP-conservative wing:


Abortion opponents are starting to worry Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh isn't the ally they were expecting (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/12/brett-kavanaugh-may-not-be-solid-ally-abortion-opponents-were-expecting.html)




Abortion opponents are starting to worry that Justice Brett Kavanaugh may not be the ally on the high court that they expected.
On Monday, the court announced that it would not review two lower court decisions that temporarily banned Louisiana and Kansas from cutting Planned Parenthood's Medicaid funding.
"There goes everyone's certainty that Kavanaugh was going to kill abortion," one poster wrote on a popular online forum for individuals in the pro-life movement. Other commenters had harsher things to say.

Tucker Higgins

Published 10 Hours Ago Updated 6 Hours Ago

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This if confirmed as nonfakenews could erode MAGA support from conservative base/NRA:


The Trump administration just banned bump stocks for guns

By German Lopez Dec 18, 2018

Mark Wilson/Getty Images President Donald Trump’s administration has (https://www.apnews.com/6c1af80fb290472c89fb930e223505af) banned (https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/politics/bump-stocks-ban/index.html) bump stocks, which effectively let semiautomatic weapons mimic machine guns.
The administration’s final regulation (https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13635046/Bump-Stock-Final-Rule.0.pdf), likely to officially publish on Friday, will bring bump stocks into the broader federal ban on machine guns starting in late March 2019, forcing people who own bump stocks today to turn in or destroy the devices within 90 days. The administration originally introduced the rule in March 2018 (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/23/17057856/trump-bump-stocks-guns-florida-shooting), but it needed to go through a formal regulatory approval process to take effect.

[enhanced_deficit]

No he's not.

He's on record over the years as being in favor of gun bans and all sorts of gun control.

The frauds and cheats and swindlers in this monumental cluster $#@! are the people who sold him to a gullible public as being something other than what he is: a politically unprincipled liberal from NYC.

If I'm not mistaken, he had converted to genuine Conservatism and abandoned swamp/Dem values before starting 2016 MAGA election campaign. Rest is history.

[enhanced_deficit]

This is somewhat troubling development, MAGA supporters turned trouble makers like Coulter & Tucker could be chipping away at MAGA's conservative support.

Coulter: Trump Will Not Finish Current Term, "joke presidency who scammed the American people" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529453-Coulter-Trump-Will-Not-Finish-Current-Term-quot-joke-presidency-who-scammed-the-American-people-quot&)

[enhanced_deficit]

This is harsh:



Second Amendment News By The Numbers: Bump Stock Ban Makes Trump More Of A Gun Control President Than Obama Ever Was (https://abovethelaw.com/2018/12/second-amendment-news-by-the-numbers-bump-stock-ban-makes-trump-more-of-a-gun-control-president-than-obama-ever-was/) Trump's most significant gun control policy achievement to date outstrips Obama's by nearly a full order of magnitude. By Jonathan Wolf

Dec 26, 2018 at 1:29 PM 37Shares



https://abovethelaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Constitution-guns-300x200.jpgAn economist might refer to guns as durable goods. Properly cared for, a firearm will last practically forever. I own a rifle manufactured by the Soviets during World War II. It kicks like a mule, only takes a handful of cartridges at a time, and is operated by bolt action, but it still works as well as I imagine it did the day the Soviets laid it to rest in a grave of cosmoline some 80 years ago. Guns do not readily wear out.

Yet, according to the 2018 firearms commerce report from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, in 2016, the last year for which data is available, 11,497,441 firearms were manufactured in the U.S., including weapons purchased by domestic law enforcement agencies but excluding production for the U.S. military (another 5 million or so guns were imported). There has been quite a prodigious increase over time. The domestic gun production number from 2004, the year the Federal Assault Weapon Ban expired, was only 3,099,025. Such leaps and bounds in production are unusual for a product that does not degrade over time and which already saturates the market.

[RonZeplin]

This is harsh:

Donnell of NYC is worse than the Kenyan, Obongo.

[enhanced_deficit]

He's not as bad as HRC.

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Gun Owners of America leader attacks MAGA again:

'Stab in the back': Gun activist hard-liners accuse Trump of betrayal over 'bump stock' ban

by Steven Nelson
| December 19, 2018
President Trump's Tuesday announcement of a bump stock ban (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/bump-stocks-to-become-illegal-this-week) is upsetting members of a core constituency: gun owners wooed by his effusive campaign-trail vows to defend the Second Amendment, with two groups promising to see Trump in court.
"If there's anything that irritates you more than a president like Obama who's trying to stab you in the heart, it's one who is trying to stab you in the back," said Michael Hammond, legislative counsel of Gun Owners of America, a group that claims more than 1.5 million members.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/stab-in-the-back-gun-activist-hard-liners-accuse-trump-of-betrayal-over-bump-stock-ban

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Did not see this reported is MSM:


Gun Owners of America suing Trump administration over bump stock ban

The Trump administration is moving to officially ban bump stocks, which allow semi-automatic weapons to fire rapidly like automatic firearms. A senior Justice Department official said Tuesday bump stocks will be banned under the federal law that prohibits machine guns. It will take effect in late March. (AP Photo/Rick Bowmer)

December 26, 2018

(CNN) - A gun rights group is taking the Trump administration to court over the ban on bump stocks.

The Gun Owners of America filed a lawsuit against the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives on Wednesday.

The group says the ban, which was announced last week, is illegal and the lawsuit is asking for a court injunction to stop its enforcement.


Link (http://www.14news.com/2018/12/27/gun-owners-america-suing-trump-administration-over-bump-stock-ban/)

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On a side note, unfortunte timing, not clear why this news is being leaked now.

BBC Producer's Syria Bombshell: Douma "Gas Attack" Footage "Was Staged" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?531556-BBC-Producer-s-Syria-Bombshell-Douma-quot-Gas-Attack-quot-Footage-quot-Was-Staged-quot&)

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He's not as bad as HRC.

^This and it woke allot of people up. This sets up things nicely for alternative third parties and 2020

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Rurals consider 2nd Amendment sanctuary declarations (https://www.kolotv.com/content/news/Nevada-Counties-consider-Second-Amendment-Sanctuary-Declarations-506686491.html)

By Ed Pearce |
Mar 05, 2019

MINDEN, Nev. (KOLO) Few issues have exposed the political and cultural divide between rural and urban Nevada like recent passage of SB143.

It was born of an initiative petition which led to a ballot question passed by the voters, rejected as unenforceable by former Governor Brian Sandoval and Attorney General Adam Laxalt, but was given new immediacy by the Las Vegas mass shooting.

Governor Sisolak campaigned on it as did a number of southern Nevada legislators and it found an early quick passage in this legislative session.

Those opposed could only stand back and register their complaint. Now they are doing something more.

Some rural county sheriffs are taking the lead,

Eureka County Sheriff Jesse Watts sent a letter to the governor saying he would refuse to stand by while citizens are turned into criminals by the "unconstitutional actions of misguided politicians."

Others are urging their local governments to pass resolutions declaring their counties Second Amendment Sanctuaries.

Such measures are being considered in Elko, Lander and Lyon, as well as other counties. In Douglas County, the issue is being driven by the county commission.

Sheriff Dan Coverley describes himself as a strong Second Amendment supporter who believes the new law is misguided and unenforceable, and won't make his community any safer.

"I think it just makes it more difficult for people who follow the rules to do something with their property. And that's what this is in this instance. It's their property."

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Bump Stocks Are Now Illegal, Thanks to NRA Favorite Donald Trump

By Adam K. Raymond
3/26/2019

As of today, owning a bump stock, the device that allows a semiautomatic rifle to fire continuously with a single pull of a trigger, is illegal in the United States.

Nineteen months after Stephen Paddock opened fire on a crowd of concertgoers in Las Vegas, killing 58 and wounding hundreds more, the niche accessory that allowed him to fire more quickly (but also less accurately) has been officially banned. The move faced a flurry of legal challenges before going into effect Tuesday. But while several individual bump-stock owners have been granted a stay, Chief Justice John Roberts declined to stop the government from enforcing the ban. A second request to block the ban is pending in front of Justice Sonia Sotomayor and she’s expect to uphold it.

That means a measure that has been called (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/08/trump-bump-stocks-ban-almost-finished.html) “the most significant new federal gun control measure in recent memory” will come into effect thanks to a Republican president elected with the help of the NRA.

It’s not hard to imagine the type of hysteria this move would have caused if it had happened under President Obama. But his administration argued it was up to Congress to ban bump stocks. The Trump administration took a different view. Under then–acting attorney general Matthew Whitaker, the Department of Justice reinterpreted existing federal law and moved forward with the ban by changing regulations. It’s the kind of thing that would have had Second Amendment absolutists taking to the streets four years ago.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/bump-stocks-are-now-illegal-thanks-to-nra-favorite-trump.html

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^This and it woke allot of people up. This sets up things nicely for alternative third parties and 2020

There is growing potential for an America-First 3rd party, both major parties take too much money from foreign lobbies, special interest, political slave masters etc.

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N.R.A. President to Step Down as New York Attorney General Investigates

Imagehttps://static01.********/images/2019/04/28/us/28-XP-NORTH/merlin_154023564_f67e00f1-ff5b-4d78-82c2-85061c5e1eda-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale
Oliver L. North, president of the National Rifle Association, said on Saturday he would not seek another term. The gun rights group is facing bitter infighting and a new inquiry into its tax-exempt status.CreditCreditLucas Jackson/Reuters

By Danny Hakim
April 27, 2019



INDIANAPOLIS — Oliver L. North announced on Saturday that he would not serve a second term as the National Rifle Association’s president, deciding to step down as the organization grappled with a bitter dispute over its future and its worst leadership crisis in decades.
He made the announcement as the N.R.A. faced a challenge from the New York attorney general, Letitia James, who had opened an investigation into the gun group’s tax-exempt status.
On Friday, Ms. James’s office sent letters instructing the N.R.A. and affiliated entities, including its charitable foundation, to preserve relevant financial records. Some of the N.R.A.’s related businesses also received subpoenas, according to people with knowledge of the inquiry. Both the attorney general’s office and a lawyer for the N.R.A. confirmed the investigation.

The move by Ms. James came amid a stunning internal power struggle (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/business/nra-wayne-lapierre-oliver-north.html?action=click&module=inline&pgtype=Homepage) that took a major turn on Saturday when Mr. North, in a letter that was read on his behalf at the N.R.A.’s convention, said he would not be renominated. He and insurgents in the N.R.A. this past week had been trying to oust Wayne LaPierre, the group’s longtime chief executive.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/27/us/oliver-north-nra.html

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Gun Owners of CA Joins First Major 2nd Amendment SCOTUS Case In Ten Years

Decision could turn California into a ‘shall-issue’ state

By Katy Grimes, May 17, 2019
As several new gun control bills passed out of the California Senate Appropriations Committee Thursday, I spoke with Sam Paredes, Executive Director of Gun Owners of California. “It was an ugly day,” Paredes said.
However, Gun Owners of California may be looking at good news on the horizon. Since the Supreme Court’s Second Amendment decisions in Heller v DC 2008 and McDonald v Chicago in 2010, questions continually arise concerning the scope of government’s power to infringe and even restrict the possession and use of all firearms, through regulations that impose harsh conditions and requirements on gun owners.
In January, the United States Supreme Court announced its decision to hear a case that challenges New York City’s near-prohibition on owning or transporting handguns. This is significant for Californians as the Golden State also has such restrictive gun laws.


Gun Owners of California joined the California Rifle and Pistol Association to file an amicus brief with the U.S. Supreme Court regarding New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v. City of New York, to decide whether New York City’s ban on transporting a licensed, locked and unloaded handgun to a home or shooting range outside city limits is consistent with the Second Amendment, the commerce clause and the constitutional right to travel. Their joint brief supports the parties challenging New York City’s restrictive handgun licensing prohibition scheme as a violation of the Second Amendment and other constitutional rights.

Paredes explained that New York City “allows” its citizens to own a gun and keep it at home, but they can only transport their gun to and from a city-sponsored gun range, of which there are only three. New York City gun owners are not allowed to travel with their guns to competitions even within the state, to a second home within the state, out of state, or anywhere other than the city-sanctioned gun ranges.

https://californiaglobe.com/legislature/gun-owners-of-ca-joins-first-major-2nd-amendment-scotus-case-in-ten-years/



Related


Gun Owners of America Sues Trump Admin Over 'Unconstitutional' Banning of Bump Stocks


A gun rights activist group has sued President Donald Trump’s administration, arguing that the recent ban on bump stocks was unconstitutional and illegal.
Gun Owners of America, a gun rights activist group and lobbying organization, announced on Wednesday filed a lawsuit in Western Michigan against the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and its Acting Director Thomas Brandon; Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker; and the Department of Justice.
Erich Pratt, executive director of GOA, said the suit challenged the legality of the ATF’s actions with regard to bump stock regulations and requested an injunction to stop the regulations from taking effect.
“These dangerous regulations can go much farther than just bump stocks,” Pratt said. “The goal of the anti-gun left is, ultimately, not just banning bump stocks, but, rather, putting ‘points on the board’ toward its goal of banning civilian ownership of all firearms.”

https://www.newsweek.com/gun-owners-america-sues-trump-admin-over-unconstitutional-banning-bump-stocks-1272887

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NRA Faces Uncertain Future After Departure of Longtime PR Firm

By Asher Stockler On 5/30/19

U.S.
Ackerman McQueen, the controversial Oklahoma-based public relations firm widely regarded to have helped shape the National Rifle Association (NRA) into a national political and cultural force, has moved to terminate its nearly 40-year relationship with the gun-rights group.
“Faced with the NRA’s many inexplicable actions that have constructively terminated the parties’ Services Agreement, Ackerman McQueen decided it is time to stand up for the truth, and formally provide a Notice to Terminate its almost four-decade long relationship with the National Rifle Association,” Ackerman told Newsweek in a written statement.

This news comes amid a maelstrom of controversy for both the NRA and its PR firm. The NRA sued Ackerman in April over an alleged failure to provide billing records related to multiple transactions under scrutiny from, among others, the attorney general of New York, where the NRA has its charter.

It is difficult to overstate how synonymous the NRA and Ackerman have appeared to outside observers. Robert Spitzer, the author of The Politics of Gun Control, told Newsweek that the NRA and its operations have been “intimately associated with Ackerman McQueen for 30 year

https://www.newsweek.com/nra-faces-uncertain-future-after-departure-longtime-pr-firm-1440073

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2nd amendment people are back in headlines:


2nd Amendment Right's activists push for gun sanctuaries in Illinois (https://newschannel20.com/news/local/2nd-amendment-rights-activists-push-for-gun-sanctuaries-in-illinois)


Katie Bandish
Saturday, July 13th 2019

2nd Amendment Right's activists push for gun sanctuaries in Illinois

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (WICS) — Residents from across the county came to hear from local leaders about different issues that affect our rights as citizens.
The town hall covered topics tonight ranging from Right-to-Life and the 10th Amendment but the biggest talker was protecting Second Amendment rights.
"I'd like to see my son and my grandson be able to enjoy the same freedoms that I enjoyed all of my life so I've always been a great second amendment supporter and I'm still a second amendment supporter," Gun owner Tom Shafer said.
Shafer came today in support of hearing what local legislators had to say about new laws being passed.
"It's important that we go, it's important that we write, it's important that we call, and it's important that we vote," State Representative David Campbell (R-Oakland) said.

Being vocal with local legislators was a big point made by residents and County Board Members.
"We want the doers here," Effingham County Board member David Campbell said. "I don't care if there's only five people here. If you're doers, that's the people we want here."
Gun sanctuaries-which tries to limit U.S. gun control- was a hot topic.
"It's really push back to the General Assembly who is passing all kinds of laws as it relates to our second Amendment," Town Hall organizer Rosanna Pulido said. "We wanted to see Sangamon County be a Sanctuary County for gun owners."
According to local county board members, 70 Illinois counties are gun sanctuaries and Sangamon County gun owners are calling for action to follow.
"If they see Sangamon do it they're going to jump on it, a lot of the other ones will get on board," Campbell said.

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'Gun-grabber-in-chief': Conservatives turn on Trump as threat to confiscate guns prompts Second Amendment-related outrage

'He's a fraud and has betrayed us twice now'

Thursday 1 March 2018

Donald Trump has sparked fury among gun owners and conservatives after repeatedly backing proposals to tighten gun control laws.

The US President called for a “beautiful” bill (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-take-guns-mental-health-florida-school-shooting-due-process-a8233751.html) that would expand background checks on gun buyers, prevent mentally ill people from accessing firearms, and restrict teenagers from buying assault weapons.

The 71-year-old's comments in the hour-long televised meeting with politicians put him at odds with the National Rifle Association (NRA), the gun lobbying organisation which made record contributions to his 2016 presidential campaign.

Michael Hammond, lawyer for Gun Owners of America, another gun group with more than a million members, accused Mr Trump of becoming the “gun-grabber-in-chief”.

“If he succeeds in doing everything he talked about in the meeting, he will far surpass Barack Obama (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/BarackObama) as an enemy of the Second Amendment,” he said.
After the meeting, far-right news outlet Breitbart (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/breitbart) ran a headline reading: "Trump the Gun Grabber: Cedes Dems' Wish List— Bump Stocks, Buying Age, 'Assault Weapons,' Background Checks.”
Many conservatives also took to social media to express their outrage.
Tonight's Podcast: Trump was terrible today during a bipartisan meeting on guns, said due process should come after gun confiscation, more. https://t.co/5ZYR7TNFiZ #tcot (https://twitter.com/hashtag/tcot?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) March 1, 2018 (https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/969074767268638720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-gun-control-confiscate-second-amendment-right-bear-arms-nra-conservative-republicans-a8234606.html






This news if confirmed could unfortunately further increase political polarization :





Trump said 'perhaps' more needs to be done on gun control following two mass shootings

David Jackson, USA TODAY Published Aug. 4, 2019


U.S. President Donald Trump spoke about the mass shootings at the Walmart in El Paso, Texas and in Dayton, Ohio. Wochit

Wrapping up an out-of-sight weekend at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J., President Donald Trump said Sunday that “perhaps” more needs to be done with respect to gun control (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/04/dayton-shooting-what-we-know-now/1914559001/).

“Hate has no place in our country and we’re going to take care of it,” Trump told reporters as he prepared to board Air Force One to return to Washington, D.C.
Trump said he will make a statement Monday on the two mass shootings over the weekend and what can be done in response. Trump said he has also spoken with Attorney General William Barr and FBI Director Christopher Wray about the mass violence.

He said his statement will be at around 10 a.m. on Monday.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/04/mass-shootings-trump-says-perhaps-more-needed-gun-control/1916965001/






Related

Trump appointed FBI Director Wray says most domestic terrorism arrests this year involve white supremacy
07/23/19
https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ests-this-year (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/454338-fbis-wray-says-majority-of-domestic-terrorism-arrests-this-year)


Trump Deputy AG Rosenstein invokes term “white terrorism”
George is right. Killing random civilians to spread a political message is terrorism. FBI classifies it as domestic terrorism, but “white terrorism” is more precise. Many of the killers are lone-wolf losers indoctrinated to hate through the internet, just like Islamic terrorists. https://t.co/uyyjkoh1fR
— Rod Rosenstein (@RodRosenstein) August 4, 2019 (https://twitter.com/RodRosenstein/status/1157866152653197312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/08...imes-in-781548 (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/08/04/george-p-bush-rings-alarm-about-white-terrorism-rod-rosenstein-chimes-in-781548)

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Screw Democrats and so-called "Conservatives" in the government. They never were our friends. I sound like a broken record probably but the GOP did every dirty trick they could to cheat Ron Paul of winning even one state.

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To give credit where due, this would not have been made possible without MAGA's strong personality and excellent deal making leadership skills:





REPUBLICANS COALESCE AROUND GUN CONTROL (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/red-flag-gun-control-bills-pick-up-momentum-with-gop-in-congress/ar-AAFqNjB) https://www.drudgereport.com/i/logo9.gif

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This was another example where self-delclared 'libertarian' Bill Maher went too far ; besides calling sitting MAGA a 'con man' , he also implied that his supporters were 'suckers' ( results of a recent non-scientific poll (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?521272-How-much-trust-do-you-put-in-current-President-s-promises-and-statements&) seem to refute that notion, at least about MAGA supporters here).


Bill Maher depicts MAGA as a 'con man' and his supporters as 'suckers', stupid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35T9jC_MASQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35T9jC_MASQ

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Based on latest polling, 2020 looking risky again for GOPA wing funded politicians.

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What is confusing is that even moderate Republican like MR had earlier used similar terms for the deal maker leader:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cco1T5QW4AA9WYj.jpg

i done forgot about this lil ole Facebook meme.... ought i to borrow it for a spell?
Mitt Romney is now UTAH's junior senator. Will he vote the way Edmund Ross of
Kansas did way back in 1868? i can only guess at what he may say or do, duckies.

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Could not lookup that meme, link ?

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Even if GOPA wing has flip flopped on this, more conservatives are rebelling and launcing sancturay city movements in some smaller cities (without offending well funded MAGA wing laedership).

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It's actually very simple. Instead of running as a Democrat, he is running GOP, so he must attack the Democrats. Some of his kids didn't get the memo though.

https://i.imgur.com/UQXQE0k.jpg



'Gun-grabber-in-chief': Conservatives turn on Trump as threat to confiscate guns prompts Second Amendment-related outrage

(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?519979-Conservative-leader-on-Trump-He-s-a-fraud-and-has-betrayed-us-twice-now&p=6597523&viewfull=1#post6597523)'He's a fraud and has betrayed us twice now' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?519979-Conservative-leader-on-Trump-He-s-a-fraud-and-has-betrayed-us-twice-now&p=6597523&viewfull=1#post6597523)


Donald Trump has sparked fury among gun owners and conservatives after repeatedly backing proposals to tighten gun control laws.

The US President called for a “beautiful” bill that would expand background checks on gun buyers, prevent mentally ill people from accessing firearms, and restrict teenagers from buying assault weapons.

Michael Hammond, lawyer for Gun Owners of America, another gun group with more than a million members, accused Mr Trump of becoming the “gun-grabber-in-chief”.




GOA back in headlines, h/t Drudge:

Pro-gun rally by thousands in Virginia ends peacefully


By ALAN SUDERMAN and SARAH RANKIN 2 hours ago


https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/5e89fc6bf45b42e08ced05036915abea/800.jpeg


RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Tens of thousands of gun-rights activists from around the country rallied peacefully at the Virginia Capitol on Monday to protest plans by the state’s Democratic leadership to pass gun-control legislation — a move that has become a key flash point in the national debate over gun violence.

Monday’s rally was organized by an influential grassroots gun-rights group, the Virginia Citizens Defense League. The group holds a yearly rally at the Capitol, typically a low-key event with a few hundred gun enthusiasts listening to speeches from a handful of Republican lawmakers. But this year’s event was unprecedented. Second Amendment groups have identified the state as a rallying point for the fight against what they see as a national erosion of gun rights.

The pushback against proposed new gun restrictions began immediately after Democrats won majorities in both the state Senate and House of Delegates in November, with much of the opposition focused on a proposed assault weapons ban. More than 100 localities have since passed measures declaring support for the Second Amendment.

Erich Pratt, senior vice president of Gun Owners of America, said voters need to replace the Democrats in control of the government in Virginia.

“We need to throw the bums out. We need to clean house in the next election,” he told the crowd.


apnews.com/2c997c92fa7acd394f7cbb89882d9b5b

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It's actually very simple. Instead of running as a Democrat, he is running GOP, so he must attack the Democrats. Some of his kids didn't get the memo though.

https://i.imgur.com/UQXQE0k.jpg


Holy Christ...

Did all 3 of them have the same mom?

Look like mutants but she would get it nicely.

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What happened with the bump stocks lawsuit? Does anyone know?

Matt Collins

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Probably nothing much happened.


Flashback:

Tucker Carlson calls Trump 'full-blown BS artist'
hehill.com/homenews/media/472378-tucker-carlson-calls-trump-full-blown-bs-artist-but-defends-him-from-media

Fox News attack dog Tucker Carlson turns on Trump: 'I don't think he's capable'
theguardian.com/media/2018/dec/07/tucker-carlson-fox-news-trump-interview-turns

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Panic over peaceful Virginia gun rights rally shows the bigotry of gun control activists


Activists, politicians and journalists found it easy to equate civil libertarians, organized around the defense of constitutional rights, with an invasion by white supremacists determined to sow chaos.

By Jacob Sullum Jan 29, 2020
Gun rights advocates attend a rally organized by The Virginia Citizens Defense League on Capitol Square near the state capitol building on Jan. 20, 2020 in Richmond, Virginia. Photo by Zach Gibson/Getty Images After a gun rights rally in Richmond came and went last week without the “violence, rioting, and insurrection” predicted by Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam, Talia Lavin could not believe her eyes, and she urged the rest of us not to believe our eyes either. “It seems myopic at best to describe the Monday event as ‘peaceful,’” Lavin wrote in a GQ article about the rally, which attracted thousands of armed Second Amendment supporters energized by Northam’s gun control agenda.
Lavin’s reality-bending assessment reflects a Manichean attitude, all too common among gun control supporters, that casts sincere policy disagreements as a battle between good and evil. That attitude explains why so many activists, politicians and journalists found it easy to equate a gathering of civil libertarians, organized around the defense of constitutional rights, with an invasion by white supremacists determined to sow chaos and provoke a race war.

Explaining his executive order banning firearms from Richmond’s Capitol Square during an annual demonstration organized by the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Northam invoked the 2017 “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, which featured explicit racism, clashes between protesters and counter-protesters and deadly vehicular violence. Northam said the VCDL rally, which had been held without violence for nearly two decades, this year justified a “state of emergency” because “credible intelligence gathered by Virginia’s law enforcement agencies” suggested it would attract militant racists bent on “storming the Capitol.”


chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2020/1/29/21114172/virginia-gun-rights-rally-bigotry-of-gun-control-activists-jacob-sullum

[Swordsmyth]

chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2020/1/29/21114172/virginia-gun-rights-rally-bigotry-of-gun-control-activists-jacob-sullum

Is there a reason you are providing broken links tonight?

https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2020/1/29/21114172/virginia-gun-rights-rally-bigotry-of-gun-control-activists-jacob-sullum

And why are you posting in this thread instead of the Virginia threads? (as if we didn't know)

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Kyle Morris 2 days ago
Mo Brooks, colleagues introduce bill to protect travelers with firearms (https://yellowhammernews.com/mo-brooks-colleagues-introduce-bill-to-protect-travelers-with-firearms/)
Congressman Mo Brooks (AL-05), along with 13 original cosponsors, introduced the Lawful Interstate Transportation of Firearms Act on Friday.

According to a press release, the Lawful Interstate Transportation of Firearms Act would “expand the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act (FOPA) ‘transport’ definition to include ‘staying in temporary lodging, stopping for food, fuel, vehicle maintenance, an emergency, medical treatment, or any other activity incidental to the transport.'”

In addition, the bill clarifies that the ability to transport a firearm also applies to  ammunition and  detachable magazines, which are essential to the function and purpose of a firearm.
“‘The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed’ means that Americans do not relinquish their Second Amendment Rights by simply traveling across state lines,” Brooks said. “All Americans have the constitutional right to self-defense whether they are at home or traveling.”

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Judge denies temporary injunction to block one-handgun-per-month law in Virginia

By Tyler Arnol
Jun 26, 2020
A circuit court judge in Goochland County has blocked an attempt by gun rights groups to temporarily halt the implementation of a Virginia law that will limit a person’s ability to purchase a handgun to one per month unless they meet certain criteria.Without ruling on whether the law is constitutional, Judge Timothy Sanner blocked the temporary injunction, which would have stopped the law from going into effect before the court made a ruling on its constitutionality. The court found Gun Owners of America, the Virginia Citizens Defense league and the other plaintiffs did not meet the burden of proof required for the injunction.

The decision means the law will go into effect Wednesday, but the court still will hear legal arguments about the bill before making a decision on whether it is constitutional.


thecentersquare.com/virginia/judge-denies-temporary-injunction-to-block-one-handgun-per-month-law-in-virginia/article_b051b948-b7ee-11ea-9f62-ef5cd4aef4c2.html