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goldenequity
03-01-2018, 01:40 PM
At least (4 me) it was the best news I could possibly hear.
Even Trump should get the message.

Did you know?
Today was Putin's 'State of the Nation' address.
I won't start there...
I'll start here:


Putin: US deployed 5 cruisers, 30 destroyers near Russian borders as part of missile defense system
https://www.rt.com/news/420152-putin-us-deploy-borders/

"These are in addition to systems stationed in neighboring states," the president added.

"The US military is preparing the armed forces of the European countries for the use of tactical nukes against Russia",
Sergey Lavrov, the Russian Foreign Minister, said on Wednesday.
He added that the presence of American non-strategic nuclear weapons in Europe is a major stumbling block in the path of disarmament.

“the military people are getting ready. The Russian military is preparing and the American military does the same.
And it’s for the politicians to warn the public that such preparations are being made.”


►a noteworthy and educated opinion first:


The televised message to the masses, was in reality a direct message to US/NATO.

None of us really know the full picture, what is really going on in Eastern Erope/Baltics/Ukraine/Syria.

Relations have deteriorated to such an alarming degree, that Putin felt he personally had to make this televised threat.

This speech was so far from Putin normal MO (Modus Operandi)....
Very out of character for him to say anything that can be perceived as remotely contentious.

This alone should be a bit concerning. What has or is going on behind the scenes to precipitate such an alarming speech??

We had Lavrov comments about US arming/preparing Europe for a pre-emptive nuclear attack on Russia only yesterday.

We also have had US making it clear they intend to act against Iran unilaterally soon.... that Russia can do 'nothing' to stop it.

US/NATO has been reinforcing Europe Eastern flank with Russia surreptitiously for nearly 2 years under the phoney pretext of defense.
Reality is: It has always been for offense (Barborosa 2.0). Caves in Norway full of Tanks.

Putin obviously has information about something imminent.
He is expecting escalation in some capacity over the coming weeks.
Could it be US/NATO planning to invade Syria, take out Assad, maybe by using theatre based Nukes?
Maybe a 2 pronged attack on Syria and Iran?

Is he expecting a proxy Ukraine attack on Russia?
This is the most likely way US/NATO would engage Russian forces in combat... using a proxy. At least up to now.

One thing for sure, Putin looked like a man with the World on his shoulders today.

Ignore that speech at your own peril.

Russia is expecting trouble.

Putin is making it clear that Russia will use Nukes to level the playing field in any War with the West.

A clear message.






Now the Speech:


►PUTIN: WE HAVE STARTED DEVELOPING STRATEGIC WEAPONS NOT USING BALLISTIC TRAJECTORY, MAKING THEM INVULNERABLE TO MISSILE DEFENSES

►Russia successfully test-launches nuclear-powered cruise missile - Putin (micro nuke pwrplant... )

►New Russian cruise missile to have unlimited range, unpredictable trajectory - Putin

►Sarmat ICBM can penetrate any type of missile defense, has no range limits - Putin

Videos presented during Putin's annual state-of-the-nation address today.

►Sarmat ICBM

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►Hypersonic Air-to-Surface Missile

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►Hypersonic Glide Warheads

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►Russia builds uninterrupted radar coverage along its borders - Putin

►PUTIN: I WILL TELL THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FUEL ARMS RACE FOR 15 YEARS AND DETER RUSSIA'S DEVELOPMENT USING ILLEGAL SANCTIONS: ATTEMPTS TO DETER RUSSIA HAVE FAILED

►PUTIN: NEW TYPES OF RUSSIAN WEAPONS MAKE U.S. MISSILE DEFENSES, APPROACH OF NATO MILITARY INFRASTRUCTURE POINTLESS

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►RUSSIA'S NEW HYPERSONIC WEAPONS INVULNERABLE TO ANY AIR AND MISSILE DEFENSES - PUTIN

►NEW RUSSIAN WEAPONS CAN HIT TARGETS AT INTERCONTINENTAL RANGE AT HYPERSONIC SPEED - PUTIN

►PUTIN: USE AGAINST RUSSIA OR ALLIES OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS OF ANY CAPACITY WILL BE REGARDED AS NUCLEAR ATTACK, RESPONSE WILL BE INSTANT

Enrico Ivanov@Russ_Warrior
►Best speech of president Putin in history, if the US regime escalates the aggression, launches an attack against Russia, its allies and its interests abroad it will be brought to its knees.
Clear message, hopefully the psychopaths in Washington will take his words seriously.

Enrico Ivanov@Russ_Warrior
►Putin: "We have capabilities to bypass all kind of missile defense systems in the world, to destroy a target in every foreign country from our own territory. We developed new laser technologies, nuclear torpedoes. No one will ever achieve military superiority on Russia".

Enrico Ivanov@Russ_Warrior
►Putin: "Sarmat system has virtually no range limit and will be able to attack across both the South and North Poles." Russia

Enrico Ivanov@Russ_Warrior · 3 min
►Putin on new US nuclear posture: "If America attacks us, Russia will use nukes"

Putin on new US nuclear stance: If attacked, Russia will use nukes.
https://www.rt.com/news/420171-nukes-us-russia-attack/


The new US nuclear posture allows a nuclear strike in response to a conventional attack.
President Vladimir Putin said Russia, if attacked with nuclear weapons, would not hesitate to respond in kind.

The warning came during a state of the nation address delivered by the Russian president on Thursday,
in which he presented a number of new advanced strategic weapon systems which, he said,
would render all anti-missile capabilities that the US currently has powerless.
Putin also mentioned the new American nuclear posture, which has relaxed some rules on when the US is prepared to use its nuclear weapons.

“We are greatly concerned by some parts of the new nuclear posture, which reduces the benchmark for the use of nuclear weapons.
Whatever soothing words one may try to use behind closed doors, we can read what was written.
And it says that these weapons can be used in response to a conventional attack or even a cyber-threat,” he said.

“Our nuclear doctrine says Russia reserves the right to use nuclear weapons only in response to a nuclear attack
or an attack with other weapons of mass destruction against her or her allies,
or a conventional attack against us that threatens the very existence of the state.”

“It is my duty to state this:
Any use of nuclear weapons against Russia or its allies, be it small-scale, medium-scale or any other scale,
will be treated as a nuclear attack on our country. The response will be instant and with all the relevant consequences,”
Putin warned.

Wael- @WaelAlRussi
►The most important part of Putin’s speech today:
Any threat to Russia’s allies is a threat to Russia.

►PUTIN: I HOPE EVERYTHING SAID IN ADDRESS TO FEDERAL ASSEMBLY TO SOBER UP ANY POTENTIAL AGGRESSOR

►PUTIN: RUSSIA'S GROWING MILITARY MIGHT IS RELIABLE GUARANTEE OF PEACE ON PLANET

►PUTIN: TODAY RUSSIA GAINS SUCH DEFENSE SYSTEM THAT WILL ENSURE ITS SECURITY FOR MANY DECADES TO COME

►PUTIN: RUSSIA'S GROWING MILITARY POWER NOT A THREAT TO ANYONE, WE HAVE NO AGGRESSIVE PLANS

►NEW RUSSIAN WEAPONS TO ENSURE NATIONAL SECURITY AND SOVEREIGNTY FOR MANY DECADES AHEAD, TO HELP AVOID ANOTHER ARMS RACE - SHOIGU







Special 'Empire' Bonus:

AFP news agency-@AFP · 17 min.
►#BREAKING Iraq MPs call for timetable for foreign troop pullout: official






There.
Don't you feel better? :D

Long live the Republic. Fuck the Empire.

shakey1
03-01-2018, 01:47 PM
He forgot to say "have a nice day".:eek:

undergroundrr
03-01-2018, 03:49 PM
I don't trust trump. I don't trust Putin. And even if I thought they were both God's gifts to humanity, I don't trust their successors. There is no positive spin to be put on escalation.

dannno
03-01-2018, 04:01 PM
I don't trust trump. I don't trust Putin. And even if I thought they were both God's gifts to humanity, I don't trust their successors. There is no positive spin to be put on escalation.

Oh ya?


Hillary Urgently Calls for Confrontation Against Russia

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?519860-Hillary-Urgently-Calls-for-Confrontation-Against-Russia


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Raginfridus
03-01-2018, 04:21 PM
Oh ya?


Hillary Urgently Calls for Confrontation Against Russia

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?519860-Hillary-Urgently-Calls-for-Confrontation-Against-Russia


968874798771310592http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/279/145/819.jpg

undergroundrr
03-01-2018, 04:24 PM
Oh ya?


Hillary Urgently Calls for Confrontation Against Russia

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?519860-Hillary-Urgently-Calls-for-Confrontation-Against-Russia


968874798771310592

You find that positive?

dannno
03-01-2018, 04:30 PM
You find that positive?

I'm positive that I find that I find it positive that she is not President and Trump is instead.

Swordsmyth
03-01-2018, 04:37 PM
President Putin has unveiled Russia's new stockpile of "invincible" nuclear weapons, with a video graphic appearing to show missiles raining on Florida.
But why would the Kremlin want to target the Sunshine State in the event of an atomic war?
Florida is home to tourist attractions such as Walt Disney World and the Everglades National Park.
But it is also has high-profile targets including President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort.


Mr Putin's video shows a brief animation of multiple nuclear warheads heading for the Panhandle.
There are several nuclear bunkers at President Trump's Florida estate, Mar-a-Lago, where he has spent a number of weekends since taking office.
The cereal heiress who built Mar-a-Lago in 1927 had three of them installed during the Korean War.
There is another bomb shelter at Mr Trump's golf course a few miles away in West Palm Beach (under the second hole, according to Esquire (https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a1571/lessons-simple-humanity-donald-trump-0300/)).
Another bunker was created for President John F Kennedy not far from Mar-a-Lago.
It is located on Peanut Island, a 10-minute journey from a Palm Beach house where Kennedy often stayed.
Yet no bunker, however brilliantly assembled, will survive a direct hit, say experts.
Another military target could be US Central Command, which is headquartered at MacDill Air Base in Tampa.
Known as Centcom, it is responsible for the operational theatre spanning parts of the Middle East, Central Asia and North Africa.


Where might Trump go in a nuclear attack? (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42969877)
Trump and the nuclear codes (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38651616)
Trump's longstanding nuclear fixation (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40879868)
America's iconic war machine (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33766644)

But analysts say that Florida is unlikely to be a prime target in the event of nuclear armageddon.
Matthew Kroenig, in his book The Logic of American Nuclear Strategy, writes that Russian's priority would be to blunt US retaliatory capability.
Moscow would probably target US nuclear silos at Malstrom Air Force Base in Montana, Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota, the home of US Strategic Command at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha, Nebraska, and Warren Air Force Base, which straddles the borders of Wyoming, Colorado and Nebraska, he says.
The Kremlin would also aim to wipe out America's two strategic submarine bases in Bangor, Washington, and King's Bay, Georgia, along with about 70 other US military bases around the country, Kroenig writes.
And it would fire two missiles at each of the 131 most populous US cities "to destroy industrial capability and inflict massive destruction", with a bullseye on the command and control centre of Washington DC.
Mark Fitzpatrick, from the International Institute for Strategic Studies, told the BBC: "This isn't a warfighting strategy, to have a video of attacking Florida.
"This is a message. The symbolism is in the video itself. It's a rhetorical flourish."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43248794

oyarde
03-01-2018, 04:42 PM
Putin must be planning raising a little revenue for military spending . Maybe move the tax rate to 11 percent .....

undergroundrr
03-01-2018, 04:46 PM
I'm positive that I find that I find it positive that she is not President and Trump is instead.

You are so distracted. Hillary's whining about election tampering in no way compares with this aggressive volley from trump, which is what Putin is specifically responding to -

https://www.defense.gov/Portals/1/Documents/pubs/2018-National-Defense-Strategy-Summary.pdf

You should wake up from your stupid Hillary fixation already.

pcosmar
03-01-2018, 04:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL5U4H3BhWo

goldenequity
03-01-2018, 05:38 PM
Pentagon Predicts 10,000 US Military Casualties in Early Days of N. Korean War
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201803011062132970-us-invasion-north-korea-casualties/

https://cdn5.img.sputniknews.com/images/103590/98/1035909836.jpg

American military leaders who met to discuss a prospective US invasion of North Korea
have reportedly claimed the fighting would cause around 10,000 American casualties in the very earliest stages of what could become a protracted conflict.

Swordsmyth
03-01-2018, 05:51 PM
The United States accused Russia of being an "irresponsible player" for boasting about an array of new, mostly hypersonic weapons (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-01/putin-if-attacked-russia-will-respond-new-unstoppable-nukes), that President Putin said would make its nuclear arsenal invulnerable to interception by the US.
State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert told reporters it was "unfortunate" to watch a video animation depicting "a nuclear attack on the United States" that accompanied Putin's state-of-the-nation speech Thursday, calling the video "cheesy" and "irresponsible."
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/putin%20nuclear%20attack.jpg Vladimir Putin delivers his annual Presidential Address "We don't think that kind of imagery, in a cheesy video, as being a responsible action." She also said Putin's announcement confirmed, "what the US has known for a long time that Russia has been developing destabilizing weapons systems for more than a decade in direct violation of treaty obligations."
She then proceeded to ignore Russian reporters at today's press briefing.

State Dept. spokesperson Heather Nauert dismisses questions from Russian reporters: "You’re from Russian TV too? Okay. Enough said, then." https://t.co/ErzcUb62mp pic.twitter.com/IkOK4ZiYYe (https://t.co/IkOK4ZiYYe)
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) March 1, 2018 (https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/969326483595382784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)Meanwhile, the Pentagon urged calm and expressed it was "fully prepared" to handle the advanced Russian nuclear threat.
"We're not surprised by (Putin's) statement. And the American people should rest assured that we are fully prepared," Chief Pentagon spokeswoman Dana White adding that she was "very confident" in America's ability to react to "anything that may come our way."
"We are prepared and we are ready," she said. "This is not about defense. This is about deterrence."
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/dana%20white.jpg Pentagon spokeswoman Dana White Ratcheting up the new cold war rhetoric, she added that "we need to ensure we have a credible nuclear deterrent, and we are confident that we are prepared to defend this nation no matter what."
The White House echoed the Pentagon's statement, saying that US deterrent capabilities "are and will remain second to none." Spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders told the press that the country is "moving forward to modernize our nuclear arsenal and ensure our capabilities are unmatched."
"US defense capabilities are and will remain second to none, and now because of the new defense budget of 700 billion dollars, our military will be far stronger than ever," Sanders said.
"I see some of this as a response to the US nuclear posture review, which is quite remarkable in that it stresses the importance of nuclear weapons and building up the US nuclear arsenal -- something President Trump himself has said," said Angela Stent, director of Georgetown University's Center for Eurasian, Russian and East European Studies.
In other words, a new nuclear arms race has begun.
* * *
The Trump administration has asked for a major boost in military spending for 2019, requesting Congress approve a budget of $686 billion, the largest in US history, and an increase of $80 billion from 2017, which the Pentagon says is primarily aimed at countering Russia and China.
US officials are also increasingly turning their attention to trying to develop some sort of defense against hypersonic missiles. In its proposed $9.9 billion requested budget for 2019, the Missile Defense Agency (MDA) is asking for $120 million to develop hypersonic missile defenses, a big increase from the $75 million in fiscal 2018.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-01/pentagon-we-are-fully-prepared-russian-nuclear-attack

goldenequity
03-01-2018, 05:55 PM
Brasco_Aad
@Brasco_Aad
TRUMP TO FIRE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR H.R. MCMASTER | NBC

Gregor Peter
@L0gg0l
WHITE HOUSE PREPARING TO REPLACE HR MCMASTER -- NBC CITES FIVE SOURCES

White House preparing for McMaster exit as early as next month
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/white-house-preparing-mcmaster-exit-early-next-month-n852371

(Iran will be glad to hear that.)

Swordsmyth
03-01-2018, 05:58 PM
Brasco_Aad
@Brasco_Aad
TRUMP TO FIRE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR H.R. MCMASTER | NBC

Gregor Peter
@L0gg0l
WHITE HOUSE PREPARING TO REPLACE HR MCMASTER -- NBC CITES FIVE SOURCES

White House preparing for McMaster exit as early as next month
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/white-house-preparing-mcmaster-exit-early-next-month-n852371

(Iran will be glad to hear that.)

I'd hold off celebrating till it happens and I see who the replacement is.

nikcers
03-01-2018, 06:23 PM
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/279/145/819.jpg

Who was the intended audience for her tweet. Is she pushing the But Hillary, narrative because Trump was falling out of style?

undergroundrr
03-01-2018, 06:32 PM
Who was the intended audience for her tweet. Is she pushing the But Hillary, narrative because Trump was falling out of style?

The tweet was the same old juvenile crap about Russia's social media marketing. It had nothing to do with nuclear escalation.

AZJoe
03-01-2018, 07:32 PM
Even Trump should get the message. ...
Today was Putin's 'State of the Nation' address. ...

Putin: US deployed 5 cruisers, 30 destroyers near Russian borders as part of missile defense system
https://www.rt.com/news/420152-putin-us-deploy-borders/

"These are in addition to systems stationed in neighboring states," the president added.

"The US military is preparing the armed forces of the European countries for the use of tactical nukes against Russia" ...
Sergey Lavrov, the Russian Foreign Minister, said on Wednesday.

He added that the presence of American non-strategic nuclear weapons in Europe is a major stumbling block in the path of disarmament.

“the military people are getting ready. The Russian military is preparing and the American military does the same.
And it’s for the politicians to warn the public that such preparations are being made.” ...

►PUTIN: WE HAVE STARTED DEVELOPING STRATEGIC WEAPONS NOT USING BALLISTIC TRAJECTORY, MAKING THEM INVULNERABLE TO MISSILE DEFENSES
►Russia successfully test-launches nuclear-powered cruise missile - Putin (micro nuke pwrplant... )
►New Russian cruise missile to have unlimited range, unpredictable trajectory - Putin
►Sarmat ICBM can penetrate any type of missile defense, has no range limits - Putin ...
►Sarmat ICBM
►Hypersonic Air-to-Surface Missile
►Hypersonic Glide Warheads
►Russia builds uninterrupted radar coverage along its borders - Putin
►PUTIN: I WILL TELL THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FUEL ARMS RACE FOR 15 YEARS AND DETER RUSSIA'S DEVELOPMENT USING ILLEGAL SANCTIONS: ATTEMPTS TO DETER RUSSIA HAVE FAILED
►PUTIN: NEW TYPES OF RUSSIAN WEAPONS MAKE U.S. MISSILE DEFENSES, APPROACH OF NATO MILITARY INFRASTRUCTURE POINTLESS
►RUSSIA'S NEW HYPERSONIC WEAPONS INVULNERABLE TO ANY AIR AND MISSILE DEFENSES - PUTIN
►NEW RUSSIAN WEAPONS CAN HIT TARGETS AT INTERCONTINENTAL RANGE AT HYPERSONIC SPEED - PUTIN
►PUTIN: USE AGAINST RUSSIA OR ALLIES OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS OF ANY CAPACITY WILL BE REGARDED AS NUCLEAR ATTACK, RESPONSE WILL BE INSTANT
►Best speech of president Putin in history, if the US regime escalates the aggression, launches an attack against Russia, its allies and its interests abroad it will be brought to its knees.

Clear message, hopefully the psychopaths in Washington will take his words seriously.

►Putin: "We have capabilities to bypass all kind of missile defense systems in the world, to destroy a target in every foreign country from our own territory. We developed new laser technologies, nuclear torpedoes. No one will ever achieve military superiority on Russia".
►Putin: "Sarmat system has virtually no range limit and will be able to attack across both the South and North Poles." Russia
►Putin on new US nuclear posture: "If America attacks us, Russia will use nukes"

Putin on new US nuclear stance: If attacked, Russia will use nukes.
https://www.rt.com/news/420171-nukes-us-russia-attack/

“It is my duty to state this:
Any use of nuclear weapons against Russia or its allies, be it small-scale, medium-scale or any other scale,
will be treated as a nuclear attack on our country. The response will be instant and with all the relevant consequences,”
Putin warned. ...

►The most important part of Putin’s speech today:
Any threat to Russia’s allies is a threat to Russia.
►PUTIN: I HOPE EVERYTHING SAID IN ADDRESS TO FEDERAL ASSEMBLY TO SOBER UP ANY POTENTIAL AGGRESSOR
►PUTIN: RUSSIA'S GROWING MILITARY MIGHT IS RELIABLE GUARANTEE OF PEACE ON PLANET
►PUTIN: TODAY RUSSIA GAINS SUCH DEFENSE SYSTEM THAT WILL ENSURE ITS SECURITY FOR MANY DECADES TO COME
►PUTIN: RUSSIA'S GROWING MILITARY POWER NOT A THREAT TO ANYONE, WE HAVE NO AGGRESSIVE PLANS
►NEW RUSSIAN WEAPONS TO ENSURE NATIONAL SECURITY AND SOVEREIGNTY FOR MANY DECADES AHEAD, TO HELP AVOID ANOTHER ARMS RACE ...


Ditto exactly goldenequity's analysis. Never seem to have enough to give get the reputation points he deserves.

This is the speech of someone who looks at all of Washington's actions and rhetoric and threats, and sees a credible threat that Washington believes it can win a nuclear first strike, intercept any counter strike, and intends to launch a pre-emptive nuclear attack on Russia. This speech is a warning to those idiots.
Washington has:

unilaterally withdrawn from the ABM treaty (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2005/03/lawrence-s-wittner/the-nuclear-non-proliferation-treaty/);
adopted and announced a policy of nuclear first strike (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518508-Ron-Paul-Trump-To-Embrace-Nuclear-First-Strike-Video);
has adopted and announced a policy to use "tactical" nukes any time it chooses in any of its conventional skirmishes anywhere in the world;
has announce that it reserves the right to respond to "cyber-threat" with the use of nuclear weapons (aside from the insanity of such a policy - it is also exceptionally dangerous considering this is the same government that manufactured false cyber-attack accusations and its CIA has been exposes implementing false flag cyber attacks and intentionally leaving behind clues to implicated other states)
implemented a worldwide missile system;
has surrounded Russia's borders with missile installations;
has expanded NATO and creeped its forces to where it can bombard Russia's 2nd largest city, St. Petersburg, with ordinary artillery;
parks missile carrying ships in the Black Sea;
fly non stop spy planes and ships on Russia's borders;
launches its trade mark regime change operations on Russia's border nations;
launched an aerial bombardment on Syrian's army forces with full knowledge of Russian contractors all to protect terrorists organizations and deprive the nation of Syria use of its own land and resources;


Experts From the full speech (https://thesaker.is/the-president-of-russia-delivered-the-address-to-the-federal-assembly/):

Back in 2000, the US announced its withdrawal from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty. Russia was categorically against this. … Under this treaty, the parties had the right to deploy ballistic missile defence systems only in one of its regions. Russia deployed these systems around Moscow, and the US around its Grand Forks land-based ICBM base.

Together with the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, the ABM Treaty not only created an atmosphere of trust but also prevented either party from recklessly using nuclear weapons, which would have endangered humankind, because the limited number of ballistic missile defense systems made the potential aggressor vulnerable to a response strike.

We did our best to dissuade the Americans from withdrawing from the treaty. All in vain. The US pulled out of the treaty in 2002. Even after that we tried to develop constructive dialogue with the Americans. We proposed working together in this area to ease concerns and maintain the atmosphere of trust. … All our proposals, absolutely all of them, were rejected. …

The reasons behind this position are obvious. After the collapse of the USSR, Russia … lost 23.8 percent of its national territory, 48.5 percent of its population, 41 of the GDP, 39.4 percent of its industrial potential … as well as 44.6 percent of its military capability … The military equipment of the Russian army was becoming obsolete, and the Armed Forces were in a sorry state. A civil war was raging in the Caucasus, and US inspectors oversaw the operation of our leading uranium enrichment plants. … Russia had outstanding debts, its economy could not function without loans … Apparently, our partners got the impression that it was impossible in the foreseeable historical perspective for our country to revive its economy, industry, defense industry and Armed Forces …

All these years, the entire 15 years since the withdrawal of the United States from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, we have consistently tried to reengage the American side in serious discussions, in reaching agreements in the sphere of strategic stability. … In 2010, Russia and the US signed the New START treaty ... However, in light of the plans to build a global anti-ballistic missile system, which are still being carried out today, all agreements signed within the framework of New START are now gradually being devaluated, because … the US, is permitting constant, uncontrolled growth of the number of anti-ballistic missiles, improving their quality, and creating new missile launching areas. If we do not do something, eventually this will result in the complete devaluation of Russia’s nuclear potential. Meaning that all of our missiles could simply be intercepted.

Despite our numerous protests and pleas, the American machine has been set into motion, the conveyer belt is moving forward. There are new missile defense systems installed in Alaska and California; as a result of NATO’s expansion to the east, two new missile defense areas were created in Western Europe: one has already been created in Romania, while the deployment of the system in Poland is now almost complete. Their range will keep increasing; new launching areas are to be created in Japan and South Korea. The US global missile defense system also includes five cruisers and 30 destroyers … deployed to regions in close proximity to Russia’s borders. … apart from protesting and warning? How will Russia respond to this challenge? …

since the unilateral US withdrawal from the ABM Treaty, we have been working intensively on advanced equipment and arms …

the United States is creating a global missile defense system primarily for countering strategic arms that follow ballistic trajectories. … Russia has developed, and works continuously to perfect, highly effective but modestly priced systems to overcome missile defense. They are installed on all of our intercontinental ballistic missile complexes. In addition, we have embarked on the development of the next generation of missiles. …

a new missile system with a heavy intercontinental missile. We called it Sarmat. Sarmat will replace the Voevoda … the capabilities of the Sarmat missile are much higher. … it has a short boost phase, which makes it more difficult to intercept … The range of the new heavy missile, the number and power of its combat blocs is bigger than Voevoda’s. Sarmat will be equipped with a broad range of powerful nuclear warheads, including hypersonic, and the most modern means of evading missile defense. … Voevoda’s range is 11,000 km while Sarmat has practically no range restrictions. … it can attack targets both via the North and South poles. Sarmat … is untroubled by even the most advanced missile defense systems.

We started to develop new types of strategic arms that do not use ballistic trajectories at all … and, therefore, missile defense systems are useless against them, absolutely pointless. …

Russia’s advanced arms … a small-scale heavy-duty nuclear energy unit that can be installed in a missile like our latest X-101 air-launched missile … but with a range dozens of times longer, dozens, basically an unlimited range. It is a low-flying stealth missile carrying a nuclear warhead, with almost an unlimited range, unpredictable trajectory and ability to bypass interception boundaries. It is invincible against all existing and prospective missile defense and counter-air defense systems. …

In late 2017, Russia successfully launched its latest nuclear-powered missile … we can begin developing a completely new type of weapon, a strategic nuclear weapons system with a nuclear-powered missile. … the missile bypasses interceptors. As the range is unlimited, the missile can maneuver for as long as necessary. … no other country has developed anything like this. …

we have developed unmanned submersible vehicles that can move at great depths … extreme depths intercontinentally, at a speed multiple times higher than the speed of submarines, cutting-edge torpedoes and all kinds of surface vessels, including some of the fastest. … quiet, highly maneuverable … There is simply nothing in the world capable of withstanding them. Unmanned underwater vehicles can carry either conventional or nuclear warheads …

Countries with high research potential and advanced technology are known to be actively developing so-called hypersonic weapons. … hypersonic is above Mach 5. … its speed makes it invulnerable to current missile and air defense systems, since interceptor missiles are … not fast enough. … Russia already has such a weapon. … it is the only one of its kind in the world. Its tests have been successfully completed, and, moreover, on December 1 of last year, these systems began their trial service … The missile flying at a hypersonic speed, 10 times faster than the speed of sound, can also maneuver at all phases of its flight trajectory, which also allows it to overcome all existing … anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense systems, delivering nuclear and conventional warheads in a range of over 2,000 kilometers. We called this system Kinzhal (Dagger). …

A real technological breakthrough is the development of a strategic missile system with fundamentally new combat equipment – a gliding wing unit, which has also been successfully tested. …

we have repeatedly told our American and European partners who are NATO members: we will make the necessary efforts to neutralize the threats posed by the deployment of the US global missile defense system. We mentioned this during talks, and even said it publicly. … we made no secret of our plans and spoke openly about them, primarily to encourage our partners to hold talks. … this was in 2004. … nobody really wanted to talk to us about the core of the problem, and nobody wanted to listen to us. So listen now.

Unlike existing types of combat equipment, this system is capable of intercontinental flight at supersonic speeds in excess of Mach 20. … the missile’s gliding cruise bloc engages in intensive maneuvering – both lateral and vertical. This is what makes it absolutely invulnerable to any air or missile defense system. … The temperature on its surface reaches 1,600–2,000 degrees Celsius but the cruise bloc is reliably guided. … we have all this and it is working well.

Moreover, Russian industrial enterprises have embarked on the development of another new type of strategic weapon. We called it the Avangard. …

We have achieved significant progress in laser weapons. … Since last year, our troops have been armed with laser weapons. …

there is far more in development than I have mentioned today. …

Of course, there are many things that we have to do in terms of military construction, but one thing is already clear: Russia possesses a modern, high-technology army that is quite compact given the size of the territory … dedicated … and are ready to sacrifice anything for its people. … we already have it and will have even better armaments in the future. …

I hope that everything that was said today would make any potential aggressor think twice … unfriendly steps against Russia such as deploying missile defenses and bringing NATO infrastructure closer to the Russian border become ineffective in military terms …

It was our duty to inform our partners of what I said here today …

For my part, I should note that we have conducted the work to reinforce Russia’s defense capability … Russia’s growing military strength is not a threat to anyone; we have never had any plans to use this potential for offensive, let alone aggressive goals. We are not threatening anyone, not going to attack anyone or take away anything from anyone with the threat of weapons. … a solid guarantee of global peace as this power preserves and will preserve strategic parity and the balance of forces in the world …

to those who in the past 15 years have tried to accelerate an arms race and seek unilateral advantage against Russia, have introduced restrictions and sanctions that are illegal from the standpoint of international law aiming to restrain our nation’s development, including in the military area, I will say this: everything you have tried to prevent through such a policy has already happened. No one has managed to restrain Russia. …

everything I have said today is not a bluff … and to give it a thought and dismiss those who live in the past and are unable to look into the future, to stop rocking the boat we are all in and which is called the Earth. … We are greatly concerned by certain provisions of the revised nuclear posture review … Behind closed doors, one may say anything to calm down anyone, but we read what is written. And what is written is that this strategy can be put into action in response to conventional arms attacks and even to a cyber-threat. …

Russia reserves the right to use nuclear weapons solely in response to a nuclear attack, or an attack with other weapons of mass destruction against the country or its allies, or an act of aggression against us with the use of conventional weapons that threaten the very existence of the state. …

it is my duty to announce the following. Any use of nuclear weapons against Russia or its allies, weapons of short, medium or any range at all, will be considered as a nuclear attack on this country. Retaliation will be immediate, with all the attendant consequences. … There should be no doubt about this whatsoever. There is no need to create more threats to the world. …

let us sit down at the negotiating table and devise together a new and relevant system of international security and sustainable development for human civilization. …

Our policies will never be based on claims to exceptionalism. We protect our interests and respect the interests of other countries. We observe international law and believe in the inviolable central role of the UN. These are the principles and approaches that allow us to build strong, friendly and equal relations with the absolute majority of countries. …

we must work together to respond to the most complex challenges, ensure global security, and build the future world, which is becoming increasingly interconnected, with more and more dynamic integration processes.

nikcers
03-01-2018, 07:55 PM
The tweet was the same old juvenile crap about Russia's social media marketing. It had nothing to do with nuclear escalation.
I hope you are right, I am not brave enough to analyze how the MSM is spinning this, but my wager is that the deep state hired Russians to promote Trump in order to blame the Russian government. If Trump hadn't of won they might of even spun the information to seem like Russia caused Trump to win the Republican nomination and thats why Hillary became president. Who knows though I just think there has been an ongoing effort by Washington to scare people into supporting premptive intervention. The idea is if there is blowback and there will be they want people to be biased against them so that there is no political blowback.

goldenequity
03-01-2018, 10:22 PM
I'd hold off celebrating till it happens and I see who the replacement is.

yer right again. :)

969345900584816640

too bad.

Swordsmyth
03-01-2018, 10:27 PM
yer right again. :)

969345900584816640

too bad.

It still might happen, Trump has a way of denying these things when they leak and then doing them later.

goldenequity
03-01-2018, 11:19 PM
Inessa S. translation..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qldhOHjxsI

goldenequity
03-01-2018, 11:34 PM
It still might happen, Trump has a way of denying these things when they leak and then doing them later.

omg... yer right again... hahahahlololll

her latest tweet (same Bloomberg reporter)

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If John Bolton gets appointed I might vomit.

Swordsmyth
03-01-2018, 11:41 PM
omg... yer right again... hahahahlololll

her latest tweet (same Bloomberg reporter)

969386188074348544

If my hot streak keeps up I'm going to get a little scared myself.





If John Bolton gets appointed I might vomit.
Flynn should get his job back if we aren't going to get anyone better.
Rand needs to make a suggestion to Trump on who to pick.

undergroundrr
03-02-2018, 11:41 AM
If John Bolton gets appointed I might vomit.

First thing that came to my mind. He's waiting in the wings.

undergroundrr
03-02-2018, 11:56 AM
I hope you are right, I am not brave enough to analyze how the MSM is spinning this, but my wager is that the deep state hired Russians to promote Trump in order to blame the Russian government. If Trump hadn't of won they might of even spun the information to seem like Russia caused Trump to win the Republican nomination and thats why Hillary became president. Who knows though I just think there has been an ongoing effort by Washington to scare people into supporting premptive intervention. The idea is if there is blowback and there will be they want people to be biased against them so that there is no political blowback.

The Hillary tweet was quoted way out of context. Just read it as an attempt by the Trump Protection Team to divert your attention so there's no deep consideration of trump's actions and their consequences.

Your analysis of complex nefarious forces is unnecessary. The Occam's Razor is this - trump is a hawk. He was a hawk before and he hasn't magically changed from being one. trump has antagonized Russia, China and just about every other nation-state in concrete ways. The world will retaliate accordingly. It's a mess. A mess that only John Bolton can fix. Watch as he comes galloping to the rescue.

Raginfridus
03-02-2018, 01:41 PM
The Hillary tweet was quoted way out of context. Just read it as an attempt by the Trump Protection Team to divert your attention so there's no deep consideration of trump's actions and their consequences.

Your analysis of complex nefarious forces is unnecessary. The Occam's Razor is this - trump is a hawk. He was a hawk before and he hasn't magically changed from being one. trump has antagonized Russia, China and just about every other nation-state in concrete ways. The world will retaliate accordingly. It's a mess. A mess that only John Bolton can fix. Watch as he comes galloping to the rescue.https://media.giphy.com/media/PPpViXrWK3zQk/giphy.gif

acptulsa
03-02-2018, 01:43 PM
If John Bolton gets appointed I might vomit.

Rand needs to make a suggestion to Trump on who to pick.

He already did. That's why Bolton doesn't have the job already.

If he does get the job, you can be sure that Rand has zero influence on Trump.

Raginfridus
03-02-2018, 01:55 PM
We were lovers for ten years but it all broke down when he became so extreme.
-Adolf Hitler

What a fucking twat.
-Tony Benn

(JohnBolton'sMustache)
The face of true Evil can sometimes be seemingly benign


(For those without comedic tastes, the "questionable parody" of this website called Wikipedia have an article about John R. Bolton.)

From August 1, 2005 to the end of 2006, John Robert Bolton was the United States Ambassador to the United Nations, and is probably the only UN Ambassador anyone will bother to remember. His coming was foretold by Nostradamus as the "Dread Mustache of Terror Who Defies the Smurfs".

He has a moustache.

In addition, there are indications that his coming was mentioned in the Sixth Book of Moses as the "Baby with Two Horns".

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/John_R._Bolton

Swordsmyth
03-02-2018, 02:02 PM
He already did. That's why Bolton doesn't have the job already.

And he needs to do it again if the job becomes vacant.

AZJoe
03-02-2018, 02:37 PM
The US Empire Is Acting Like A Desperate, Cornered Animal (https://steemit.com/america/@caitlinjohnstone/the-us-empire-is-acting-like-a-desperate-cornered-animal-because-that-s-what-it-is)

America itself could be described as one gigantic ongoing psyop infecting 323 million otherwise healthy homosapiens. ... Americans are some of the most aggressively propagandized people on our planet, and their mass media machine keeps acting stranger and stranger.

Take today, for instance. The Pentagon has announced (http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/us-approves-selling-missiles-to-ukraine/news-story/ab39f6bb2fcb6824237578a545f441c5) that it has approved the sale of 210 Javelin anti-tank missiles and 37 Javelin Command Launch Units to Ukraine, yet another step taken against Russia in what's beginning to feel like almost daily escalations ... In response to these relentless increases in aggression (https://steemit.com/hillaryclinton/@caitlinjohnstone/hillary-demands-even-more-russia-escalations-from-trump-administration) from the US, Putin has announced (http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/russia-shows-off-new-weapons-tells-us-to-come-down-to-earth.html) the addition of new weapons ... including nuclear-armed submarine drones and ... "low-flying low-visibility cruise missile armed with a nuclear warhead and possessing a practically unlimited range, unpredictable flight path and the capability to impregnate practically all interception lines is invulnerable to all existing and future anti-missile and air defense weapons."

The fact that these announcements are happening in the same universe as the ongoing mainstream Trump-Russia collusion narrative is mind boggling. ... Hillary Clinton jumped on Twitter (https://steemit.com/hillaryclinton/@caitlinjohnstone/hillary-demands-even-more-russia-escalations-from-trump-administration) to help advance the narrative being relentlessly promulgated by Trump's political opponents that the current administration is still far too soft on Russia ... by not authorizing preemptive cyberattacks on Russian cyber-operations. ...

Obama himself refused to authorize (https://www.truthdig.com/articles/russiagate-helped-secure-dangerous-arms-deal/) the sale of arms to Ukraine for fear of dangerous escalations ... Trump is acting far more aggressively toward Russia than his predecessor ever dreamed of doing. ...

Why are the propagandists taking such bold gambles with their power to retain credibility in the eyes of their audience? Why are they overreaching with inherently absurd narratives about Russia and brazen lies about Syria (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/five-reasons-to-be-absolutely-certain-that-the-establishment-is-lying-about-syria-46402a4c7888) instead of staying calm and playing more subtle? Why are they acting like desperate, cornered animals instead of like relaxed rulers of the planet holding all the cards? Because desperate, cornered animals is exactly what they are.

A 2017 Department of Defense Risk Assessment (https://ssi.armywarcollege.edu/pdffiles/PUB1358.pdf) by the US Army Strategic Studies Institute says that the US empire is in what it calls “post-primacy” and may currently be on its way out the door. ... Many, many powerful people have built their kingdoms upon this vast empire, and now that empire is approaching post-primacy. Staying on top of the world and preventing the rise of any rival superpower has been a mainstream tenet of the US-centralized establishment for a long time now (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/obama-urged-trump-to-continue-neoconservative-foreign-policy-417e1a1f66d2), and that appears to be the goal (https://steemit.com/trump/@caitlinjohnstone/russiagate-isn-t-about-trump-and-it-isn-t-even-ultimately-about-russia) behind all the moves that they are taking ... they are fighting backed into a corner, and they are getting desperate, and they are overextending themselves. Which is why they look so ridiculous and obvious to anyone who is paying attention.

This is both good news and potentially very bad news. ... The bad news is that cornered animals are dangerous, and desperate times call for desperate measures. There is indeed the very real possibility that America's oligarchs will plunge the nation and its allies into a humanity-threatening world war rather than acquiesce to the emergence of a multipolar world ...

Slave Mentality
03-02-2018, 03:28 PM
There is indeed the very real possibility that America's oligarchs will plunge the nation and its allies into a humanity-threatening world war rather than acquiesce to the emergence of a multipolar world ...

Not a possibility, but a probability. Great article. Thanks for sharing it.

BTW, WWIII was kicked off by our oppressors back in late 2001...

goldenequity
03-02-2018, 05:04 PM
Sergey Bobkov
@sbobkov
My friends from China did not believe me when I told them all US anti-missile defense capabilities officially aimed against NK are really aimed against China.
Now it is official.


Pentagon looks to adjust missile defense policy to include threats from Russia, China
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-looks-to-adjust-missile-defense-policy-to-include-threats-from-russia-china/2018/03/01/2358ae22-1be5-11e8-8a2c-1a6665f59e95_story.html?utm_term=.14a4625d1a0d

"The Trump administration is working on an expanded U.S. missile defense policy that would address certain threats from Russia and China,
departing from a previous strategy that focused nearly exclusively on rogue nations such as North Korea and Iran."

Raginfridus
03-02-2018, 06:40 PM
I'm so relaxed by this best news that I filled a bubble bath and lit some candles.

AZJoe
03-02-2018, 07:43 PM
Analysis from Alexander Mercouris - Putin to US: You brought it on yourselves (https://theduran.com/putin-lesson-us-you-brought-it-on-yourselves/)

the US military’s recently published Nuclear Posture Review (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518508-Ron-Paul-Trump-To-Embrace-Nuclear-First-Strike-Video&highlight=nuclear) … was a deeply pessimistic document, in which the US military admitted that the US’s ‘unipolar moment’ had passed, … the US faces a looming commitments’ crisis, which is causing it to bring back low yield nuclear weapons to offset its pending inferiority in conventional forces in some theatres. The result is a dangerous lowering of the nuclear threshold and a rapid deterioration in the US’s geostrategic position …

the US military – though lamenting the rapid deterioration of the US’s overall geostrategic position – like the rest of the US leadership, appears to be blind of the extent to which it is the US’s own actions which since the end of the Cold War have provoked the reactions from countries like Russia and China which it is now complaining about.

The result is that instead of the US looking for compromises with Russia and China, it is doubling down on the very same policies that provoked the challenges from Russia and China in the first place.

The second part of President Putin’s State of the Nation (http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/56957) address should in fact be understood as a response to the US’s Nuclear Posture Review (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518508-Ron-Paul-Trump-To-Embrace-Nuclear-First-Strike-Video&highlight=nuclear) – Putin specifically alluded to it in his address …

[Putin’s] words clearly show that development of the new weapons systems Russia is now deploying are specific responses to two US actions (1) the US’s unilateral withdrawal from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty in 2002; and (2) the US’s deployment of anti-ballistic missile interceptors in eastern Europe, the Korean Peninsula and on the territory of the United States. … that the US simply brushed aside all Russia’s objections about these anti-ballistic missile deployments, and simply proceeded with them regardless. …

When Barack Obama was elected US President in 2008 he told the Russians that he intended to scrap President George W. Bush’s plan to install anti ballistic missile interceptors in eastern Europe. It was this assurance from Obama which led Putin to believe that a compromise on the issue was possible … Moreover on the strength of Obama’s assurance the Russians agreed to his proposal for further deep cuts in their offensive nuclear weapons capability as part of the New START Treaty. … contrary to Obama’s assurance, the US’s anti ballistic missile deployments in eastern Europe and elsewhere simply went ahead as if the assurance had never been made (“the American machine has been set into motion, the conveyer belt is moving forward”).

The result is that the entire logic behind the New START Treaty has been nullified …

In other words the Russians feel Obama tricked them, and they are furious about it, even if they principally blame themselves from believing him

Beyond the question of Obama’s bad faith – the corrosive effect of which should not however be underestimated – there is the hardheaded understanding that it was Russia’s own weakness which invited the US to behave as it did. …

the US believed that following Russia’s collapse in the 1990s the US no longer had to take its opinions seriously, and felt that it could proceed with its plans to create an anti-ballistic missile system – which it thought would lock in its military superiority over Russia and over all other potential future challengers forever – without taking Russia’s concerns into account. As to the previous arms control treaties and promises it had given to Russia – such as the one about not expanding NATO into Eastern Europe – those could be simply ignored. The US would ignore the promises and treaties it had made with Russia …

I would add that the reason for the vehemence of US hostility to [Putin] and to Russia is precisely because he and Russia have proved the US so completely wrong. Contrary to US expectations, Russia is back, and it turns out that its opinions do matter after all. The result in the US is hysteria (Russiagate) and denial (“Russia is a declining power/corrupt kleptocracy/mafia petro-state/gas station/doesn’t make anything”).

In fact the US’s treatment of Russia following the Cold War is a textbook case of how international relations should not be conducted. … was staggeringly foolish and reckless, and a guarantee of future trouble.

Since the end of the Cold War the US has not played fair with Russia. It broke its promise to Russia not to extend NATO into eastern Europe. It has even extended NATO into former Russian territory – the Baltic States – and is trying to extend NATO further into Georgia and Ukraine. It also tried – and failed – to micromanage Russian domestic politics in its own interests … It reneged on a key disarmament treaty – the 1972 Anti Ballistic Missile Treaty – and compounded the offence by pretending for years that its anti ballistic missile program was pitched against Iran (which has no nuclear weapons or intercontinental ballistic missiles) … that pretense has now – without apology or explanation – been abandoned … It then tricked the Russians into agreeing deep cuts in their offensive nuclear forces by pretending to them that the anti-ballistic missile program was being scrapped even as it was proceeding apace.

The result is a total collapse of trust, and its product is the new weapons systems President Putin has just unveiled. These weapon systems have been discussed previously in open sources, and will have come as no surprise to the Pentagon. However they explain the deep pessimism of the Nuclear Posture Review, with its lament that the US is losing its technological lead.

This is because – as US defense analysts admit – the new Russian weapons negate the effectiveness of the anti-ballistic system in which the US has … invested so much. … Thomas Karako, director of the Missile Defense Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, and a supporter of the US anti-ballistic missile program, has told CNBC (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/01/putin-russia-up-the-ante-on-missile-defense.html)
“They didn’t sneak up on us. … the weapons Putin described render NATO’s mostly U.S.-led missile defense systems useless … Unfortunately, we are kind of behind the curve in terms of our cruise missile defense capabilities. …”

reneging on the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, cheating the Russians, and investing hundreds of billions of dollars in the anti-ballistic missile, has achieved for the US the worst possible outcome. It has antagonized the Russians and made the US’s military position worse than it was previously. …

[Rather than] rethink the strategy, which is resulting in such disastrous outcomes, but to double down upon it by searching for new ways to counter the new Russian weapons. That this will lead to a further spiral in the arms race, as the Russians – and the Chinese – counter whatever countermeasures the US puts in place apparently does not concern Karako or anyone else in the military leadership of the US. This is so even though the US Nuclear Posture Review essentially admits that the only result of a renewed arms race will be a further deterioration of the US’s geostrategic position.

As for the only rational alternative: coming to terms with the Russians so as to bring the new arms race to a stop … is of course ruled out … This is a tragedy because a small window of opportunity for a rapprochement with Russia still exists. …

President Putin made clear in his State of the Nation “There is no need to create more threats to the world. Instead, [I]let us sit down at the negotiating table and devise together a new and relevant system of international security and sustainable development for human civilisation. … Russia is ready for this. Our policies will never be based on claims to exceptionalism. We protect our interests and respect the interests of other countries. We observe international law and believe in the inviolable central role of the UN. These are the principles and approaches that allow us to build strong, friendly and equal relations with the absolute majority of countries … We are interested in normal and constructive cooperation with the United States and the European Union. We hope that common sense will prevail and our partners will opt for honest and equal work together.” …

far from all Russians share these relatively moderate views, and the number of Russians who doubt that any agreement with the US is possible is growing by the day. The US should not assume that once President Putin is gone whoever succeeds him will be more accommodating to the US than … the opposite is more likely to be true.

However a small window of opportunity for a rapprochement remains. … the only rational course is to use such time as is left to make the best use of it before it finally closes.

Swordsmyth
03-02-2018, 10:28 PM
The U.S. knew about all of these systems. If we didn’t then what are we truly spending all this money on spycraft for. We also know first-hand how good Russian electronic warfare (EW) is, c.f. the airstrike on Al-Shairat last April where less than 40% of those Tomahawks hit their intended targets.
The Saker has made the point many times that Russia’s armed forces, up to this point, are designed around rapid response within 1000 kilometers of Russia’s borders. It is not designed around global force projection.
These new weapons fundamentally change that stance. And much of the current geopolitical knife-fighting will come to a rapid close because of it.
Russian diplomacy has stymied U.S. attempts to game the geopolitical landscape for the past four and a half years (since Putin beat Obama over the false flag chemical weapons attack in 2013). Now he’s given everyone another thing to consider, Russia’s Big Stick.
And I invoke Teddy Roosevelt here on purpose. Putin’s foreign policy has morphed into that. This is his ‘walk softly and carry a big stick’ moment. He’s been building to this point for fourteen years, since Bush the Lesser pulled the U.S. out of the ABM Treaty.
Now it’s here and we have no reasonable response. The Defense Department’s statement was laughable. All we can do it try and put inferior weapons closer to Russia’s borders to approximate M.A.D., (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction) a situation I feel we haven’t been at for quite a while now.
Putin just red-pilled the world on this subject.
The current hot-spots will begin resolving themselves over the next year.
Escalation by the U.S. in Ukraine is simply a way to empower Putin’s hardline critics on the eve of an election. The cries of “Putin is a traitor” or “Putin is a Zionist shill” have been growing louder in the fringes of the Russian-centric commentariat.
He just ended them by changing the rules of engagement completely. If Putin was truly that guy, a weak-handed fool secretly working for Zionists, then he would have left Russia defenseless and would not have announced on the eve of his re-election after playing ‘possum for months the hammers Russia needs to secure her future.
In the broader sense, Putin has now put all of his allies under the same nuclear umbrella. And it should give everyone running their mouth about going to war, from Hezbollah to Israel, from Turkey to Iran pause.
Syria is now a game of attrition which Damascus and Moscow will win.
With Trump’s massive win at CPAC and the mid-term elections on the horizon, expect a major summit between Trump and Putin this year. Trump cannot hide behind the Democrats’ lunacy in the face of what Putin just announced.
They have to talk formally about how to pull the world back from what appears to be the brink of war.
* * *

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-02/putins-ultimatum-next-stage-war

goldenequity
03-03-2018, 04:06 AM
I'm so relaxed by this best news that I filled a bubble bath and lit some candles.
saved my monitor... swallowed coffee first. :D
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Raginfridus again.

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Heeeeeeresss... Megan!! (I don't know what to think of her... not a 'neocon' ... so better than a Heather Nauert/Nasty Nikki... could be worse.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-rZlWGIcrI



As an aside....
What she's really trying to drill down on is whether or not Russia has 'perfected' a micro nuclear turbine.
If they did...
it would have 'unlimited' range. Literally.




bits & pieces of the interview are being squirted in our direction (MSNBC) :rolleyes:


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Here's an 'unrelated' TASS piece from the same interview:

Putin demands evidence of guilt of individuals accused of meddling in US election
http://tass.com/politics/992614

"With all due respect for you [interviewer Megyn Kelly] personally, with all due respect for Congress, you must have people with legal degrees,"
Putin went on. "One hundred percent you do. And people who are well educated must understand
that we in Russia cannot prosecute people if they have not violated Russian law."

When the interviewer said she had a degree in law, too, Putin remarked:
"Then you have to understand that it takes an official request to the General Prosecutor of the Russian Federation. Give us a document, give us an official request.
This has to go through official channels, not through the press or yelling in the US Congress."

goldenequity
03-03-2018, 10:00 AM
Enrico Ivanov Russ_Warrior
President Putin and the Russian people, a never-ending love story.
Luzhniki stadium full of people like never before for today's re-election campaign rally.

969905297992151040


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXXRH8aXUAEN_3h.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXXRLprW0AE2fiQ.jpg:large





pretty sure this was the first and only rally Putin has had for his own 'campaign'

goldenequity
03-03-2018, 10:28 AM
Sorting out the weapons...


https://cdn1.img.sputniknews.com/images/106218/67/1062186712.png

from here: https://sputniknews.com/military/201803031062186741-what-russias-new-laser-is-for/

nikcers
03-03-2018, 10:48 AM
Washington is just trying to bankrupt Russia by pushing them into an arms race. This just turned into a dick measuring contest and we have just a dumb enough president to put on a show of force of his own.

goldenequity
03-03-2018, 11:15 AM
Washington is just trying to bankrupt Russia by pushing them into an arms race. This just turned into a dick measuring contest and we have just a dumb enough president to put on a show of force of his own.

Between the above weaponry ignoring ballistic trajectories
and the open sale of S-400s to take back control of sovereign air spaces...
it's checkmate. (not 'another Cold War' or even an 'arms race'.)

The Cold War was about the projection of power. It's over. (imo)
All Assad has to do is literally flip a switch.

nikcers
03-03-2018, 11:29 AM
Between the above weaponry ignoring ballistic trajectories
and the open sale of S-400s to take back control of sovereign air spaces...
it's checkmate. (not 'another Cold War' or even an 'arms race'.)

The Cold War was about the projection of power. It's over. (imo)
All Assad has to do is literally flip a switch.

Excuse me if I don't believe computer graphics are the real deal. They might be working on these weapons aside from s-400s but I doubt they are in production. There is no winning nuclear war there is no checkmate there is no military force capable of nullifying the MAD that would happen if America was attacked. This is meant to try to push Washington into an arms race so we bankrupt ourselves. Putin is fighting fire with fire.

goldenequity
03-03-2018, 11:52 AM
Excuse me if I don't believe computer graphics are the real deal. They might be working on these weapons aside from s-400s but I doubt they are in production. There is no winning nuclear war there is no checkmate there is no military force capable of nullifying the MAD that would happen if America was attacked. This is meant to try to push Washington into an arms race so we bankrupt ourselves. Putin is fighting fire with fire.

That's fine to believe or 'doubt' but it doesn't really change the dynamics of what I just said:
aka... this is not a 1950's/1960's redux.
For example: Building out with National bankrupting carriers to carry vulnerable aircraft into regions equipped with S-400s makes no sense.
Reality: The west is only left with proxies and terrorism/subversion.... and that's getting old.

Already changing since 'the speech'... 2 examples

The Dynamics are already being contemplated.. (there's going to be a 'bums rush' to join the CSTO org :) )

Tehran Rules Out Missiles Talks Until US, Europe Destroy Their Nukes
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201803031062188536-tehran-us-europe-missile-talks/
(already we see Iran jump out in front of Trump's 'Worst Deal Ever' threats.)

Why Turkey 'Can Calmly Withdraw From NATO' After Putin's Speech
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201803031062188502-russia-turkey-nato-deterrence/

nikcers
03-03-2018, 12:36 PM
I have never heard clapping that hard in my life


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fym8DAPbUOI

timosman
03-03-2018, 01:24 PM
I have never heard clapping that hard in my life


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcJAWKdawuM

nikcers
03-03-2018, 01:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcJAWKdawuM
I know its clappening over here too with Trump suiciding the GOP, but they were just screaming and cheering not clapping so hard it sounds like it hurts your hands.

goldenequity
03-03-2018, 02:39 PM
Putin's aide suggests naming new Russian weapon system 'Givi'
https://dninews.com/article/putins-aide-suggests-naming-new-russian-weapon-system-givi

Assistant to the President of Russia Vladislav Surkov announced his intention to take part in the contest
for the name of a new system of Russian weapons and to offer his option - Givi.

"I want to take part (in the competition - ed.) on the name of the weapons systems. I suggest "Givi", because he is such a hero of Donbass," Surkov is quoted as saying.

http://theduran.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/f719c1843d6cfcf01f76cf57e34d8906a2b6fba0.jpg

AZJoe
03-03-2018, 03:49 PM
There is no winning nuclear war there is no checkmate there is no military force capable of nullifying the MAD that would happen if America was attacked. This is meant to try to push Washington into an arms race so we bankrupt ourselves. Putin is fighting fire with fire.

These are good thoughts. Its not meant to push a new arms race but to stop the arms race Washington reignited when it unilaterally pulled out of the ABM treaty in 2002 (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2005/03/lawrence-s-wittner/the-nuclear-non-proliferation-treaty/). Putin explains as much in his speech. When Washington unilaterally ended the ABM treaty in 2002, it started a new arms race. Washington (Cheney, Bush, and all the neocons since) believed Russia was a has been and could never catch up.

Washington & Co. wanted and believed it could have unipolar world military and economic dominance to dictate and control any country in the world. Yes MAD still existed. Washington however thought it could neutralize Russian ICBMs and other ballistic missiles with its anti-ballistic missile program. Washington began rolling out a uncontrolled growth of global anti-ballistic missiles - Western Europe, South Korea, Japan, Pacific, US, Eastern Europe. They planted these all around Russia including former Soviet nations and right up to Russia's border. This global missile program also includes 5 missile cruisers and 30 missile carrying destroyers off Russia's borders. The termination of the ABM treaty reveals that Washington believes it can win a nuclear war. Washington thought with its plan it could intercept and neutralize any retaliatory strike.

Combine these aggressive actions with Washington's new Nuclear Posture Review (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518508-Ron-Paul-Trump-To-Embrace-Nuclear-First-Strike-Video), wherein Washington has expressly adopted a policy to use nuclear weapons in a first strike (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518508-Ron-Paul-Trump-To-Embrace-Nuclear-First-Strike-Video), use nuclear weapons in conventional battles, and use nuclear weapons in response to "cyber threats" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518508-Ron-Paul-Trump-To-Embrace-Nuclear-First-Strike-Video). The entire policy is madness, but the last one is exceptionally alarming given Washington's continued barrage of false accusations, and the proven CIA/NSA operations exposed by Snowden and Wikileaks revealing the CIA and NSA have been hacking systems and intentionally leaving behind code and codes to falsely implicated other foreign states.

Putin explained this is all a direct response to Washington's actions. Putin asks Washington to come back to the negotiation table and reinstate the arms treaties and end the arms race. He explains all this in explicitly clear and direct language:

"the entire 15 years since the withdrawal of the United States from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty ... the US, is permitting constant, uncontrolled growth of the number of anti-ballistic missiles, improving their quality, and creating new missile launching areas. If we do not do something, eventually this will result in the complete devaluation of Russia’s nuclear potential. ...

Despite our numerous protests and pleas, the American machine has been set into motion, the conveyer belt is moving forward. There are new missile defense systems installed in Alaska and California; as a result of NATO’s expansion to the east, two new missile defense areas were created in Western Europe, one ... in Romania, ... the deployment of the system in Poland is now almost complete. Their range will keep increasing; new launching areas are to be created in Japan and South Korea. The US global missile defense system also includes five cruisers and 30 destroyers … deployed to regions in close proximity to Russia’s borders. ...

we have repeatedly told our American and European partners who are NATO members: we will make the necessary efforts to neutralize the threats posed by the deployment of the US global missile defense system. We mentioned this during talks, and even said it publicly. … we made no secret of our plans and spoke openly about them, primarily to encourage our partners to hold talks. … this was in 2004. … nobody really wanted to talk to us about the core of the problem, and nobody wanted to listen to us. So listen now. ...

I hope that everything that was said today would make any potential aggressor think twice ... to those who in the past 15 years have tried to accelerate an arms race and seek unilateral advantage against Russia, have introduced restrictions and sanctions that are illegal from the standpoint of international law aiming to restrain our nation’s development, including in the military area, I will say this: everything you have tried to prevent through such a policy has already happened. ...

everything I have said today is not a bluff … and to give it a thought and dismiss those who live in the past and are unable to look into the future, to stop rocking the boat we are all in and which is called the Earth. … We are greatly concerned by certain provisions of the revised nuclear posture review (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518508-Ron-Paul-Trump-To-Embrace-Nuclear-First-Strike-Video) … Behind closed doors, one may say anything to calm down anyone, but we read what is written. And what is written is that this strategy can be put into action in response to conventional arms attacks and even to a cyber-threat. ...

it is my duty to announce the following. Any use of nuclear weapons against Russia or its allies, weapons of short, medium or any range at all, will be considered as a nuclear attack on this country. Retaliation will be immediate, with all the attendant consequences. … There should be no doubt about this whatsoever. There is no need to create more threats to the world. …

There is no need to create more threats to the world. Instead, let us sit down at the negotiating table and devise together a new and relevant system of international security and sustainable development for human civilization. … Our policies will never be based on claims to exceptionalism."

nikcers
03-03-2018, 04:25 PM
You also have to look at it in the context of Washington and its allies declaring that the time to act against Russia is now. There is good reason for Russia to declare they had new WMDs .In a recently authored memo, the Pentagon’s chief weapons-tester (the acting director of Operational Test and Evaluation), upgraded our current missile-defense system from “limited capability” to “demonstrated capability.” This followed a successful test of the system, in which it was used to intercept and destroy a dummy intercontinental ballistic missile. The small change in wording represents a big change in confidence.

AZJoe
03-03-2018, 04:47 PM
Excuse me if I don't believe computer graphics are the real deal. They might be working on these weapons aside from s-400s but I doubt they are in production.

A bluff is certainly possible, and it is certainly right to be skeptical. However a bluff is highly unlikely here. It goes against pattern of both Russia and Putin who tend to hide and suppress their capabilities. They likely have the technology they claim, although the states of production may still be early.

Also , the US was already aware of the Russian SARMAT missile. That announcement was not really new, and US knew Russia may have developed hypersonic missiles.

Also, remember Syria. When Russia entered the Syrian arena, the tiny Russian contingent was able to jam all U.S. and Israeli communications at will. Not only were US operations caught off guard that Russia had this technology, but the US did not believe it was even possible.

Likewise the US did not believe Russia had "smart bomb" missile technology with such accurate precision ability (less than a meter) and were completely caught off guard when Russia launched its Kalibr missile strikes. Not only was Washington caught off guard with the accuracy but also the range. Missiles were launched with pinpoint precision from ships in the Caspian Sea. Additionally US did not believe it was possible that such high precision missiles of such magnitude and range could be launch from such tiny vessels - Russian navy corvettes.

All of this reflects a confirmed rapid development of state of the art technology, surpassing Washington, in an extremely short period of time. This was technological shock and awe.

These events tend to corroborate that Russian technology certainly have the capacity to achieve what they stated they have. And this is nothing new. Russia has consistently been a leader in missile and rocketry technology. Even under the severe handicap of communism of the old Soviet system, Russians were still first to get a satellite in orbit, first man in space, the first and second space station, and post Soviet jointly with the US the third space station, and many other firsts. In fact even today US NASA is still 100% dependent on Russian rocket engines for all of its heavy satellite launches. US NASA ISS astronauts are likewise 100% dependent on Russian Soyuz and rocket engines to get to and from the ISS.

Lastly, when it comes to nuclear weapons and a nuclear superpower, it is certainty better to err on the side of caution, dialogue, negotiation and peace, rather than escalate tensions, provoke conflict, or call any bluff by precipitating a hot war.

AuH20
03-03-2018, 04:56 PM
Russia was given western technology to 'finish the job.' There is going to be no winners in the coming war.

nikcers
03-03-2018, 09:00 PM
In fact even today US NASA is still 100% dependent on Russian rocket engines for all of its heavy satellite launches. US NASA ISS astronauts are likewise 100% dependent on Russian Soyuz and rocket engines to get to and from the ISS.
That's by design, Washington pays Russia to do ISS launches because they know that Russia loses money on ISS launches but can't refuse the money because their economy is so bad. America traditionally doesn't show its military tech, especially since the Russians have been stealing it since the nuclear bomb.

goldenequity
03-04-2018, 11:55 AM
Russia’s Avangard strategic systems enter series production
http://tass.com/defense/992643

"It is time for our Western counterparts to perceive new reality. Russian Kinzhals are on duty,
while Avangard [systems] have entered series production," he said.

The missiles "which Americans are determined to roll out as a global anti-missile and air defense system,
have no military value now after Russia’s presentations of new weapons," sourse added.

"There is no sense in shielding positioning areas and various military groups with them now," he noted.
"There is neither protection nor antidotes against the Russian Kinzhal systems capable of flying at a speed of 10 Mach.".

It is time for the West to accept the new reality, rather than to keep "harping on" about the anti-missile defense system
along with other bygone weapons.

nikcers
03-04-2018, 12:11 PM
Russia’s Avangard strategic systems enter series production
http://tass.com/defense/992643

"It is time for our Western counterparts to perceive new reality. Russian Kinzhals are on duty,
while Avangard [systems] have entered series production," he said.

The missiles "which Americans are determined to roll out as a global anti-missile and air defense system,
have no military value now after Russia’s presentations of new weapons," sourse added.

"There is no sense in shielding positioning areas and various military groups with them now," he noted.
"There is neither protection nor antidotes against the Russian Kinzhal systems capable of flying at a speed of 10 Mach.".

It is time for the West to accept the new reality, rather than to keep "harping on" about the anti-missile defense system
along with other bygone weapons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4LFT7GKTG8


LOL "Nobody, but Russia, has a hypersonic weapon,"

otherone
03-04-2018, 12:15 PM
And it would fire two missiles at each of the 131 most populous US cities

Certainly would address the progressive presence in the US.
Wouldn't deter them from voting democrat posthumously, though.

acptulsa
03-04-2018, 12:16 PM
Russia was given western technology to 'finish the job.'

Oh, of course they were. :rolleyes:

Either that, or we were ahead of the Soviets 40-50-60 years ago when we were capitalist and had competition, and they were communist and didn't. But now they are capitalist and we are communist, and they're ahead.

pcosmar
03-04-2018, 12:27 PM
Oh, of course they were. :rolleyes:

Either that, or we were ahead of the Soviets 40-50-60 years ago when we were capitalist and had competition, and they were communist and didn't. But now they are capitalist and we are communist, and they're ahead.

Perspective.

nikcers
03-04-2018, 12:30 PM
Oh, of course they were. :rolleyes:

Either that, or we were ahead of the Soviets 40-50-60 years ago when we were capitalist and had competition, and they were communist and didn't. But now they are capitalist and we are communist, and they're ahead.
There is no difference between then and now. This is just Cold War 2.0, the difference is I think that America and Russia will be fighting for the power vacuum that will erupt in China when their empire crashes instead of the British. Russia always seems to have more advanced military power but that's because when the Soviet Union collapsed all of their secrets were let out and that allowed China to leapfrog into the economic power that it has become, we won't know what kind of toys the US military has been spending its trillions on because it hasn't collapsed yet.

goldenequity
03-04-2018, 12:40 PM
LOL "Nobody, but Russia, has a hypersonic weapon,"



to be clear..
Lots of different 'hypersonic' weaponry was included in the speech... Sarmat warheads (aka boosted 'gliders') etc...
What I posted is more to address your 'doubts' about what is 'real' vs 'under development'.. the Kinzhal is already deployed.

The Kinzhal 'dagger' is
'air-launched' and not a 'glider',
not 'ballistic' (aka no trajectory),
and only has a range of 2,000km
and not 'nuke powered'.

it is however 'hyper sonic' achieving Mach 10
and real time 'steerable'.

Here is it's description:

The hypersonic “Kinzhal” missile system In early December, Moscow started deploying the experimental hypersonic, high-precision-guided “Kinzhal” air missile system in Russia’s Southern Military District. Using this weapon, aircraft can deliver missiles to a launch point in a matter of minutes. While in flight, the missile performs maneuvers along its entire route, moving at more than 10 times the speed of sound. These rockets can travel more than 2,000 miles (1,250 miles).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG1Z7SpGN_A

nikcers
03-04-2018, 12:42 PM
40-50-60 years ago when we were capitalist
Even the Gold standard was a boondoggle I sure as hell wouldn't want a fiat currency printed by the government backed by fixed gold prices that's "buried and locked in a vault". This is a war of nerves, both USA and Russia want their enemies to waste money on WMD so that they destroy their own countries economy.

nikcers
03-04-2018, 12:44 PM
to be clear..
Lots of different 'hypersonic' weaponry was included in the speech... Sarmat warheads (aka boosted 'gliders') etc...
What I posted is more to address your 'doubts' about what is 'real' vs 'under development'.. the Kinzhal is already deployed.

The Kinzhal 'dagger' is
'air-launched' and not a 'glider',
not 'ballistic' (aka no trajectory),
and only has a range of 2,000km
and not 'nuke powered'.

it is however 'hyper sonic' achieving Mach 10
and real time 'steerable'.

Here is it's description:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG1Z7SpGN_A
The Germans had the better tanks too, but they just couldn't build enough for them to make a difference.. Once you build enough to make a difference your economy crashes because your people are too fucking starving to be competitive.

goldenequity
03-04-2018, 01:03 PM
The Germans had the better tanks too, but they just couldn't build enough for them to make a difference.. Once you build enough to make a difference your economy crashes because your people are too $#@!ing starving to be competitive.

I know your premise is that their economy is 'bad' and vulnerable/crippled by western sanctions.
My premise is that it is not and is improving steadily and addressing/overcoming the currency attacks and weaponized trade policies.
More and more we see the EU 'waking up' to the self-inflicted damage caused by US proclamations. (and this was BEFORE the latest 'Steel' tariffs/taxes)
As an example, Russia is the #1 Wheat exporter for the planet. (and non-GMO as a bonus)
Their plans for the Syrian port of Tartus is to develop it into a major Food hub for their maritime shipping.

I won't bother with all the diagnostics and figures.... that's what we have the Zipster for. :D


Did you have any more questions?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXb5tcQWkAAo9na.jpg:small

nikcers
03-04-2018, 01:05 PM
I know your premise is that their economy is 'bad' and vulnerable/crippled by western sanctions.
My premise is that it is not and is improving steadily and addressing/overcoming the currency attacks and weaponized trade policies.
More and more we see the EU 'waking up' to the self-inflicted damage caused by US proclamations. (and this was BEFORE the latest 'Steel' tariffs/taxes)
As an example, Russia is the #1 Wheat exporter for the planet. (and non-GMO as a bonus)
Their plans for the Syrian port of Tartus is to develop it into a major Food hub for their maritime shipping.

I won't bother with all the diagnostics and figures.... that's what we have the Zipster for. :D
I guess you are right the Russian economy is a good house in a bad neighborhood. The whole world is enslaved by false economies but Russia's is going strong and will last 5000 more years.

acptulsa
03-04-2018, 01:13 PM
Oh, of course they were. :rolleyes:

Either that, or we were ahead of the Soviets 40-50-60 years ago when we were capitalist and had competition, and they were communist and didn't. But now they are capitalist and we are communist, and they're ahead.

Case in point:


... Russia is the #1 Wheat exporter for the planet.

Time was, we were number one and the USSR was one of our biggest customers.


WASHINGTON, March 22— The United States and the Soviet Union came to terms today on a new long-term grain agreement that guarantees an export market for an additional million tons of American wheat, feed grains and soybeans annually over the next five years, the Government announced.

''This agreement represents a welcome advance in the relations between the United States and the U.S.S.R.,'' Agriculture Secretary Clayton K. Yeutter and Carla A. Hills, the United States trade representative, said in a joint statement here. They called the accord ''a real contribution to both countries that will enlarge market opportunities for America's farmers.''

Although the Soviet Union has been making efforts to produce more meat and other consumer goods, today's agreement is just the latest of a long series of grain deals. 11% Increase The agreement, reached in Vienna by negotiators from both sides, calls for an 11 percent increase, in tonnage, over the current pact, which expires at the end of the year. It also gives the Soviets a wider menu of grains and the right to make limited substitutions in their orders.

''We think this is a good deal, that it assures United States farmers of a stable market over the life of the agreement,'' the deputy trade representative, Julius Katz, said in Vienna.

While the agreement was viewed by private specialists here as representing only modest improvements for American interests, it came at a time of some uncertainty about Soviet buying intentions and may also help the Soviet Union in its drive to obtain most-favored-nation status with the United States. Today's pact was an agreement in principle, to be signed at the Bush-Gorbachev summit meeting in Washington in June.

No Prices Set

The agreement sets no prices for the grain sales, which the Agriculture Department said would be at ''competitive'' costs. This means that export subsidies, though unpopular with the Bush Administration, would be used when necessary to bring American grain to prevailing world levels.

The new pact is the latest in a series that began in 1975 after huge, sudden purchases by the Soviet Union in the early 1970's that depleted American stockpiles and drove grain prices sharply higher. The agreements have stabilized Soviet grain buying; only in 1986-87 were purchases negligible.

Besides raising the minimal annual shipment to 10 million metric tons a year from 9 million, the agreement for the first time covers barley and sorghum, in addition to corn.

The Soviets are also given the right to raise their purchases to as much as 14 million tons a year without consulting with the United States. This limit is now 12 million tons, though Washington has routinely increased this as demand warranted.

Another provision requires that the Soviet Union annually buy at least 4 million tons each of wheat and feedgrains and allows it to substitute up to 750,000 tons of one of these for the other. The remaining 2 million tons can be fulfilled with wheat, feedgrains, soybeans or soybean meal. 13.8 Million Tons Sold in '90 The agreement is not likely to result in an immediate increase in sales of American grains to the Soviet Union since that country has recently been buying at levels well above the minimums. Shipments of American wheat and corn totaled 21.7 million tons last year, and as of March 8 the Soviets had bought more than 13.8 million tons for delivery this year.

An Agriculture Department spokeswoman, Kelly Shipp, said today that while United States grain stockpiles have been drawn down since the 1988 drought, supplies are quite adequate to meet continued heavy export demand and that good rainfall so far points to bountiful crops this year.

''We have an ample supply of grain,'' Ms. Shipp said.

And while doubts have been raised in some quarters about the financial ability of the Soviet Union to carry through its commitments, she said, ''They tell us that they can'' pay.

John A. Schnittker, a Washington consultant and former Agriculture Department official, said he thought recent payment lapses might reflect ''technical'' appropriation problems in the Government there.

''Trade will go on because the Russians need grain - and we have it,'' Mr. Schnittker said, referring to the new agreement as ''constructive'' but doing little more than providing somewhat greater market stability for American farmers.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/23/business/us-soviet-grain-pact-is-reached.html

Admittedly, Russia now exports to some countries that used to be within the Soviet Union. But that couldn't possibly make the whole difference. The fact is, our turn away from capitalism has hurt our levels of innovation and productivity, while real, competitive capitalism has Russia on the rise.

American Exceptionalism is a state of denial. We were exceptional. But we have thrown away everything that made us that way. What makes us think we can remain exceptional even as we voluntarily cease to be exceptional?

goldenequity
03-04-2018, 01:25 PM
I guess you are right the Russian economy is a good house in a bad neighborhood. The whole world is enslaved by false economies but Russia's is going strong and will last 5000 more years.

No one is protected from a global collapse.

nikcers
03-04-2018, 01:25 PM
Case in point:



Time was, we were number one and the USSR was one of our biggest customers.



http://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/23/business/us-soviet-grain-pact-is-reached.html

Admittedly, Russia now exports to some countries that used to be within the Soviet Union. But that couldn't possibly make the whole difference. The fact is, our turn away from capitalism has hurt our levels of innovation and productivity, while real, competitive capitalism has Russia on the rise.

American Exceptionalism is a state of denial. We were exceptional. But we have thrown away everything that made us that way. What makes us think we can remain exceptional even as we voluntarily cease to be exceptional?
Why would we grow wheat when growing corn hurts the Russian economy? Don't you guys understand that the Russian government subsidizes all of their industries with oil revenue? This is why they had to leave Syria with their tail between their legs.

goldenequity
03-04-2018, 02:11 PM
This is why they had to leave Syria with their tail between their legs.

Russia has won a strategic victory in Syria and around the world admits US Army
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russia-won-strategic-victory-syria-around-world-admits-us-army/

nikcers
03-04-2018, 03:34 PM
Russia has won a strategic victory in Syria and around the world admits US Army
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russia-won-strategic-victory-syria-around-world-admits-us-army/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT4sK36cU3Y

goldenequity
03-04-2018, 03:39 PM
Published on Aug 17, 2016 .... propaganda when yunno... they were convinced ruble attack, oil attack, Aleppo attack, White Helmet attack, sanctions attack
would
work.
None did.


go here: https://www.voanews.com/
lots moar 4 U. :D
MAGA!

nikcers
03-04-2018, 03:58 PM
Published on Aug 17, 2016 .... propaganda when yunno... they were convinced ruble attack, oil attack, Aleppo attack, White Helmet attack, sanctions attack
would
work.
None did.


go here: https://www.voanews.com/
lots moar 4 U. :D
MAGA!

Last I checked America is still in Syria occupying their land calling for regime change. Putin hasn't change that, they just got rid of our puppet(ISIS) and the hand is showing. Putin's entire campaign to unite Russian factions is based on his military "victories". If Putin won then why is America still in Syria??

goldenequity
03-04-2018, 05:39 PM
If Putin won then why is America still in Syria??
It's your government... you've lived through this nightmare same as me.
You can easily answer that question yourself.

nikcers
03-04-2018, 05:41 PM
It's your government... you've lived through this nightmare same as me.
You can easily answer that question yourself.
The question I posit is that if Putin won and "kicked ISIS out of Syria" then why is ISIS(America) still in Syria?

Vieux Canard
03-04-2018, 05:56 PM
I'm curious how a nuclear powered cruise missile would work. The US had project pluto, back in the late 50's worked on using a small nuclear reactor to heat air in a ramjet, which then expands and provides thrust. Is this the same thing?

goldenequity
03-04-2018, 06:05 PM
I'm curious how a nuclear powered cruise missile would work. The US had project pluto, back in the late 50's worked on using a small nuclear reactor to heat air in a ramjet, which then expands and provides thrust. Is this the same thing?
Gotta be. Heat expansion has to be the physics involved... in the torpedo as well.

goldenequity
03-04-2018, 06:28 PM
The question I posit is that if Putin won and "kicked ISIS out of Syria" then why is ISIS(America) still in Syria?
'won' is a question of perception.
Most any WWII buff can tell you when the Germans 'lost'... it will vary slightly but there's always a 'pivot'.
Same as with any professional chess match... the 'players' know long before the audience catches up.
So..
Strategically... the Empire in Syria has lost. (thank God)
Putin's 'withdrawal' months ago (they're NOT gone obviously) was to encourage a face-saving opportunity for the West.
Declare ISIS 'defeated'. Leave. "Mission Accomplished" cue 'flags', anthem, USA!USA!USA!.. whatever..
The REASON we're still there is to slow up and throw sand into Syria's recovery.
Pretty 'noble' of us huh. That's the truth.
Israel's goals have been flattened as well.
Saudi's goals are kaput too.
Our 'presence' is not going to change the hardening alliance between the sovereigns: Iraq, Iran, Syria and Lebanon.
Iraq wants us gone as well.
It's like the loud, drunk, obnoxious 'guest' at the party. Everybody except him knows it's time to leave.
(good thing Trump doesn't drink.)

goldenequity
03-04-2018, 07:27 PM
Iraq wants us gone as well.
It's like the loud, drunk, obnoxious 'guest' at the party. Everybody except him (and Heather) knows it's time to leave.

hahaha... she walks out on the very last question. bye heather. :D

Nauert refuses to ‘tolerate’ Russian media

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E3drcbR4sY


Russia: 'If US dares to do it again - we'll create special areas for their journalists!' - Zakharova
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdjqz19ecr4

goldenequity
03-04-2018, 08:22 PM
White House accuses Russia of 'killing civilians' in E. Ghouta, Syria in '20 daily' bombing runs
https://www.rt.com/usa/420445-us-russia-ghouta-civilians/

“The United States condemns the ongoing military offensive that the Assad regime, backed by Russia and Iran,
is perpetrating against the people of Eastern Ghouta,”.

"to kill innocent civilians under the false auspices of counterterrorism operations,”

Syrian President Bashar said on Sunday that Syrian forces would continue the operation against terrorists in eastern Ghouta
“in parallel with opening the way for civilians to leave.”

The “overwhelming majority” of civilians trapped between the fighting lines want to break free from the militants, he said.

Assad called out hypocrisy by the West, noting that it starts crying foul only when Syrian forces are advancing against the terrorists.

Syria's Assad says operation in Ghouta 'will continue'

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXdvWwNW0AEc4Y4.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXdvWwEWAAAbOA5.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXdvWwNXUAEZbmO.jpg



More Political theater

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AZJoe
03-04-2018, 08:47 PM
hahaha... she walks out on the very last question. bye heather. :D
Nauert refuses to ‘tolerate’ Russian media

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E3drcbR4sY
Russia: 'If US dares to do it again - we'll create special areas for their journalists!' - Zakharova
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdjqz19ecr4

Ha Ha. It truly is like watching a bad SNL skit (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?500760-State-Dept-Press-Briefing-or-SNL-Skit&highlight=nauert).

The State Department Press Spokesperson Heather Nauert can’t even answer a single, simple question without throwing a hissy fit and carrying on like stuck up twelve year old little girl “Oh you aren’t in the popular click. I can’t talk to you” And then grabs her notes and runs away. Heather Nauert is a total embarrassment.

Meanwhile President Putin gives an unscripted hours long one on one interrogation session to an openly hostile Russiagate talking head Meaghan Kelly for a propagandist foreign media NBC.

goldenequity
03-05-2018, 08:47 AM
The Syrian White Helmets at the Oscars . . . Again
https://countercurrents.org/2018/02/27/syrian-white-helmets-oscars/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXgCtdGVMAEDqn9.jpg:large

https://mronline.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/white-helmets-posing-with-dead-bodies.jpg

nikcers
03-05-2018, 09:41 AM
Not 'real game-changers'

"I don't believe they are real game-changers," Sim Tack, chief military analyst at Belgium-based Force Analysis, told VOA via Skype.
"Putin's announcement today was not so much an unveiling of new capabilities that nobody knew about," he said. "It's more of a summary of things that Russia has been working on over the past few years."
Tack said that eventually, some of the capabilities, like those of the hypersonic missile, might force the U.S. and NATO to change the way they approach nuclear deterrence. But he cautioned those Russian capabilities were not yet operational.

The Senate's No. 2 Democrat, Dick Durbin of Illinois, urged a measured response from U.S. President Donald Trump.
"I hope he doesn't come up with some outrageous adolescent tweet, for goodness' sake," Durbin said. "A leader of the free world, commander in chief of the United States of America, ought to take the threat of Russian aggression very seriously, in a very sober way."

Looks like I'm not the only one who thinks this President will make this into a dick measuring contest.

timosman
03-05-2018, 11:04 AM
Russia is using logic against us. Quick, let's ban logic. Whew, that was close. :cool:

Raginfridus
03-05-2018, 11:34 AM
Looks like I'm not the only one who thinks this President will make this into a dick measuring contest.

Dick stands only 5'9"

goldenequity
03-05-2018, 11:35 AM
I was waiting for this.... weren't you?? :)
ALL these 'weapons' depend on real time navigation.
(yes.. it can be 'hard coded' like the sixties... but then they're no longer 'smart'. aka: we will always come back to Regan's 'Star Wars'.)






Russia Claims It Now Has Lasers To Shoot Satellites
http://archive.is/hELGS

Russian defense companies have created a plane-mounted laser that can hit satellites —
at least according to an anonymous source quoted by Russian news agency Interfax.

On Saturday, an Interfax report cited the source as saying that weapons maker Almaz-Antey has “completed work on the anti-satellite complex,”
which includes the laser and associated ground control gear.
Independent and Western observers have not yet verified the claim. But the Russian program does exist.

Last April, Almaz-Antey general designer Pavel Sozinov told Russian news agency Ria Novosti
that Russian leadership had ordered the company to develop weapons that could interfere electronically with
or
achieve “direct functional destruction of those elements deployed in orbit.”



The program builds off the Soviet-era Beriev A-60, a gas laser fitted inside a heavily modified Ilyushin Il-76MD cargo plane.
The effort also bears some resemblance to the Soviets’ 1984 Kontakt 30P6 program,
which sought to modify a MiG-31D to draw targeting data from the Krona-N space and satellite observation complex
and shoot down an enemy satellite with a 79M6 Kontakt missile.



The new laser will be fitted aboard a brand-new, as-yet-unnamed aircraft, as part of a new anti-satellite “complex”
that will likely involve ground and radar elements as well, Interfax reported.




Samuel Bendett, a research analyst at the Center for Naval Analyses, said,

“Russia considers American satellites a significant threat when it comes to potential confrontation,
and is actively working to counter U.S. technologies in space,
such as possible electronic warfare technologies that can target hundreds of kilometers up.
The developments in laser technologies are in step with U.S. and Chinese advancements in this area.”




U.S. defense officials are increasingly concerned about anti-satellite weapons.
“We assess that Russia and China perceive a need to offset any U.S. military advantage derived from military, civil, or commercial space systems
and are increasingly considering attacks against satellite systems as part of their future warfare doctrine,”
Dan Coats, who directs the director of the Office of National Intelligence, told lawmakers last May.



A Joint Staff report obtained by the Washington Free Beacon in January,
predicted that Russia or China would be able to destroy U.S. satellites within a decade.

goldenequity
03-05-2018, 12:11 PM
Plugging Leaks...

RUSSIA CURBED ACTIVITIES OF 72 CAREER OFFICERS, 397 AGENTS OF FOREIGN SPECIAL SERVICES IN 2017 - PUTIN

PUTIN NOTES EFFICIENT COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE PROTECTION OF DEVELOPMENT OF NEW ARMAMENTS MENTIONED IN HIS ADDRESS

goldenequity
03-05-2018, 01:18 PM
India aims to conclude S-400 deal with Russia during Defence Minister’s Moscow visit
https://defenceupdate.in/india-aims-conclude-s-400-deal-russia-defence-ministers-moscow-visit/

S-400 is known as Russia’s most advanced long-range surface-to-air missile defence system.

China was the first foreign buyer to seal a government-to-government deal with Russia in 2014 to procure the lethal missile system
and Moscow has already started delivery of unknown number of the S-400 missile systems to China.

The sources said Sitharaman will travel to Moscow within the next six weeks and she may push for sealing the long-pending deal at the earliest.

“Sealing the S-400 deal will be a major focus of Sitharaman’s visit to Russia,”
aid a source familiar with the deal, which would be one of biggest with Russia in recent years.

Negotiators from both countries have been in talks for over one and half years for the purchase of at least five systems of S-400
which are capable of firing three types of missiles, creating a layered defence.

goldenequity
03-05-2018, 01:32 PM
Graham (R-South Carolina) has demanded President Donald Trump confront Moscow by imposing a no-fly zone in Syria.
https://www.rt.com/usa/420449-graham-trump-syria-russia-war/


lol

goldenequity
03-05-2018, 07:02 PM
2 Mar 2018
Only Half of F-35s Available for Flight, Program Head Says
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/03/02/only-half-f-35s-available-flight-program-head-says.html

Of the 280 operational F-35s purchased to date by U.S. and international partners, only 51 percent are currently available for flight,
Vice Adm. Mat Winter, director of the F-35 Joint Program Office, told reporters Wednesday at a round-table event.

timosman
03-05-2018, 07:11 PM
Graham (R-South Carolina) has demanded President Donald Trump confront Moscow by imposing a no-fly zone in Syria.
https://www.rt.com/usa/420449-graham-trump-syria-russia-war/


lol

Wasn't Hillary suggesting this? http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?502681-Clinton-Vows-To-Push-For-No-Fly-Zone-In-Syria

AZJoe
03-05-2018, 09:18 PM
Off Guardian sums Up Putin’s speech in One Line: The West needs to stop provoking a war we don’t want & which no one can win (https://off-guardian.org/2018/03/01/putins-message-couldnt-be-clearer-we-need-to-stop-provoking-a-war-we-dont-want-which-no-one-can-win/)

Putin is trying to wake them up to the reality that if things don’t change nuclear war is a near certainty. Does anyone in the West understand what the real point of Putin’s comments about Russia’s new weaponry (https://www.rt.com/news/420206-russia-strategic-weapons-putin/)? … what Putin’s speech – just as all his previous warnings – is ultimately intended to do is avert a pending worldwide catastrophe.

The US political class is too fluoridated, too driven by ideologues, too crazy to understand MAD any more. … They are trying to wear Russia down, convinced that sooner or later, if pressure increases enough, Putin will fold, withdraw from Syria, agree to “co-operate” with Western interests and generally get in line. … The US/EU/NATO are making threats with no prospect of success. The only rational thing to do is realize this and back off. …

Their real delusion is not that [Washington] can win a nuclear war, but that they can continue to do what they are doing and avoid one. What Putin is trying to do is wake them up to this reality. To make them see that if things don’t change nuclear war is a near certainty some time pretty soon. Not because anyone is actively seeking it, but because the road they are walking leads nowhere else. …

he [Putin] is essentially a man playing poker with an idiot. … Remember this address to the press in 2016? … “How do you not understand that the world is being pulled in an irreversible direction, while they pretend that nothing’s going on? I don’t know how to get through to you anymore”.

He didn’t get through to them. … The US continues to up the ante with hysterical fact-lite allegations. US intelligence officials compete to be the most delusional and insane, claiming the United States has been “attacked (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/13/intelligence-director-coats-says-u-s-under-attack-putin-targeting-2018-elections/332566002/)”. US warships gather in the Black Sea (http://www.atimes.com/article/2-us-navy-guided-missile-destroyers-enter-black-sea/). US troops occupy Syria in defiance of the law, and bring themselves into direct opposition to the Russian forces legally deployed there. New rounds of US sanctions against Russia and its people proliferate, and an atmosphere of hate and fear is being deliberately fostered in which even a suggestion of compromise is regarded as treason. Now most corporate journalists actually believe only “bots” would suggest Russia’s POV is a legitimate consideration. This is a level of demonization and indoctrination unheard of outside a time of war.

There is no acknowledgement of the historical realities. No awareness … No real discussion of the fact this new generation of weaponry unveiled is nothing but a direct response to the US’s stupid move in quitting the ABM treaty in 2002 and its subsequent development of the Aegis “missile defense system” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegis_Ballistic_Missile_Defense_System), currently being deployed in Japan, Eastern Europe and on US warships, and which threatens Russia’s cities in the guise of “defense”. …

“Nobody wanted to discuss the fundamental problems with us”, Putin said today. “Nobody listened to us. Now you will have to listen! … acknowledge reality, realize that everything I said is no bluff. Take some time to consider. Stop jeopardizing this ship we all sail in – which is called planet Earth.” …

goldenequity
03-06-2018, 09:40 AM
India aims to conclude S-400 deal with Russia during Defence Minister’s Moscow visit
https://defenceupdate.in/india-aims-conclude-s-400-deal-russia-defence-ministers-moscow-visit/

S-400 is known as Russia’s most advanced long-range surface-to-air missile defence system.

China was the first foreign buyer to seal a government-to-government deal with Russia in 2014 to procure the lethal missile system
and Moscow has already started delivery of unknown number of the S-400 missile systems to China.

The sources said Sitharaman will travel to Moscow within the next six weeks and she may push for sealing the long-pending deal at the earliest.

“Sealing the S-400 deal will be a major focus of Sitharaman’s visit to Russia,”
aid a source familiar with the deal, which would be one of biggest with Russia in recent years.

Negotiators from both countries have been in talks for over one and half years for the purchase of at least five systems of S-400
which are capable of firing three types of missiles, creating a layered defence.

Erdogan vows not to cancel S-400 deal with Russia despite likely sanctions
http://tass.com/defense/992944

goldenequity
03-06-2018, 08:11 PM
a very good read.

The Implications of Russia's New Weapon Systems
http://www.unz.com/article/the-implications-of-russias-new-weapons/

While Western punditry was discussing all those exotic and, no doubt, stunning weapon systems
designed for the delivery of nuclear weapons to any point on the globe with very high precision,
many true professionals were gasping for the air when the Dagger (Kinzhal) was unveiled.

This is a complete game changer geopolitically, strategically, operationally, tactically and psychologically.

...the Kinzhal is simply shocking in its capabilities.

This, most likely based on the famed Iskander airframe, M=10+ capable, highly maneuverable, aero-ballistic missile
with a range of 2000 kilometers, carried by MiG-31BMs, just rewrote the book on naval warfare.

It made large surface fleets and combatants obsolete. No, you are not misreading it.

No air-defense or anti-missile system in the world today
(maybe with the exception of the upcoming S-500 specifically designed for the interception of hyper-sonic targets)
is capable of doing anything about it, and, most likely, it will take decades to find the antidote.

More specifically, no modern or perspective air-defense system deployed today by any NATO fleet
can intercept even a single missile with such characteristics.
A salvo of 5-6 such missiles guarantees the destruction of any Carrier Battle Group or any other surface group, for that matter–
all this without use of nuclear munitions.

The modernization program of MiG-31s to BM was in full steam for some years now, with front line Air Force units seeing a considerable inflow of these aircraft. It is clear now why such modernization was undertaken–it made MiG-31BMs into launch platforms for the Kinzhal.

The immediate strategic consequences of Kinzhal’s operational deployment are as follows:

►It finally contains aircraft carriers into a confined niche of power projection against weak and defenseless adversaries,
and
away from the sea zones of Russia, be it the Mediterranean, Pacific or North Atlantic.
►This also means a complete no-go zone for any of the 33 Aegis-equipped US Navy destroyers and cruisers
which are crucial for American Ballistic Missile Defense;
►It makes classic CBGs as a main strike force against a peer or near-peer completely obsolete and useless,
►it also makes any surface combat ship defenseless regardless of its air-defense or anti-missile capabilities.
►It completely annuls hundreds of billions of dollars investment into those platforms and weapons
(which suddenly become nothing more than fat defenseless targets.)
►The whole concept of Air-Sea Battle, aka Joint Concept for Access and Maneuver in the Global Commons (JAM-GC) becomes simply useless.
This is a doctrinal and fiscal catastrophe.

►Sea Control and Sea Denial change their nature and merge.
Those who have such weapons, simply own vast spaces of the sea limited by the ranges of the Kinzhal and its carriers.
►It removes completely any crucial surface support for submarines in the area, exposing them for Patrol/ASW aviation and surface ships.
The effect is multiplicative and it is profound.

The Kinzhal effectively removes any non-suicidal surface force thousands of miles away from Russia’s shores and renders its capabilities irrelevant.

In layman’s lingo that means only one thing—the US Navy’s whole surface component becomes a complete hollow force
good only for parades and flag demonstration near and in the littorals of weak and underdeveloped nations.
....and this could be done for a tiny fraction of the astronomical costs of US platforms and weapons.



Russia’s actions are dictated by only one cause–to pull a gun on a drunk, rowdy, knife wielding bully in the bar
and get him to pay attention to what others may have to say.
In other words, Russia brought the gun to a knife fight and it seems that this is the only way to deal with the United States today.

If warnings and the demonstration of Russian military-technological superiority will have an effect, as was the Russian intent from the beginning,
some sensible conversation on the new world order may start between key geopolitical players.

The world cannot afford any more a pretentious, self-aggrandizing and hollow bully which knows not what it does
and threatens the world’s stability and peace.

American self-proclaimed hegemony is over where it really matters for any real and perceived hegemon—the military field.

It was over for some time now, it just took Putin’s speech to demonstrate the good old Al Capone truism that:
"one can get much further with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone."

After all, Russia did try a kind word alone, it didn’t work and the United States has only itself to blame.

Swordsmyth
03-06-2018, 10:47 PM
a very good read.

The Implications of Russia's New Weapon Systems
http://www.unz.com/article/the-implications-of-russias-new-weapons/

While Western punditry was discussing all those exotic and, no doubt, stunning weapon systems
designed for the delivery of nuclear weapons to any point on the globe with very high precision,
many true professionals were gasping for the air when the Dagger (Kinzhal) was unveiled.

This is a complete game changer geopolitically, strategically, operationally, tactically and psychologically.

...the Kinzhal is simply shocking in its capabilities.

This, most likely based on the famed Iskander airframe, M=10+ capable, highly maneuverable, aero-ballistic missile
with a range of 2000 kilometers, carried by MiG-31BMs, just rewrote the book on naval warfare.

It made large surface fleets and combatants obsolete. No, you are not misreading it.

No air-defense or anti-missile system in the world today
(maybe with the exception of the upcoming S-500 specifically designed for the interception of hyper-sonic targets)
is capable of doing anything about it, and, most likely, it will take decades to find the antidote.

More specifically, no modern or perspective air-defense system deployed today by any NATO fleet
can intercept even a single missile with such characteristics.
A salvo of 5-6 such missiles guarantees the destruction of any Carrier Battle Group or any other surface group, for that matter–
all this without use of nuclear munitions.

The modernization program of MiG-31s to BM was in full steam for some years now, with front line Air Force units seeing a considerable inflow of these aircraft. It is clear now why such modernization was undertaken–it made MiG-31BMs into launch platforms for the Kinzhal.

The immediate strategic consequences of Kinzhal’s operational deployment are as follows:

►It finally contains aircraft carriers into a confined niche of power projection against weak and defenseless adversaries,
and
away from the sea zones of Russia, be it the Mediterranean, Pacific or North Atlantic.
►This also means a complete no-go zone for any of the 33 Aegis-equipped US Navy destroyers and cruisers
which are crucial for American Ballistic Missile Defense;
►It makes classic CBGs as a main strike force against a peer or near-peer completely obsolete and useless,
►it also makes any surface combat ship defenseless regardless of its air-defense or anti-missile capabilities.
►It completely annuls hundreds of billions of dollars investment into those platforms and weapons
(which suddenly become nothing more than fat defenseless targets.)
►The whole concept of Air-Sea Battle, aka Joint Concept for Access and Maneuver in the Global Commons (JAM-GC) becomes simply useless.
This is a doctrinal and fiscal catastrophe.

►Sea Control and Sea Denial change their nature and merge.
Those who have such weapons, simply own vast spaces of the sea limited by the ranges of the Kinzhal and its carriers.
►It removes completely any crucial surface support for submarines in the area, exposing them for Patrol/ASW aviation and surface ships.
The effect is multiplicative and it is profound.

The Kinzhal effectively removes any non-suicidal surface force thousands of miles away from Russia’s shores and renders its capabilities irrelevant.

In layman’s lingo that means only one thing—the US Navy’s whole surface component becomes a complete hollow force
good only for parades and flag demonstration near and in the littorals of weak and underdeveloped nations.
....and this could be done for a tiny fraction of the astronomical costs of US platforms and weapons.



Russia’s actions are dictated by only one cause–to pull a gun on a drunk, rowdy, knife wielding bully in the bar
and get him to pay attention to what others may have to say.
In other words, Russia brought the gun to a knife fight and it seems that this is the only way to deal with the United States today.

If warnings and the demonstration of Russian military-technological superiority will have an effect, as was the Russian intent from the beginning,
some sensible conversation on the new world order may start between key geopolitical players.

The world cannot afford any more a pretentious, self-aggrandizing and hollow bully which knows not what it does
and threatens the world’s stability and peace.

American self-proclaimed hegemony is over where it really matters for any real and perceived hegemon—the military field.

It was over for some time now, it just took Putin’s speech to demonstrate the good old Al Capone truism that:
"one can get much further with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone."

After all, Russia did try a kind word alone, it didn’t work and the United States has only itself to blame.

Revelation 6:4 “And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.”

King James Version (KJV)

goldenequity
03-08-2018, 11:24 AM
Nuclear Attack On USA Imminent – Pentagon
http://www.thebreakingtimes.com/nuclear-attack-usa-imminent-pentagon/
(right. boogity boogity... we need more $$ :rolleyes: )

“There is compelling evidence that at least one of our potential competitors in this space
believes they can get away with striking us with a low-yield weapon."
(such hypocrisy since WE'VE been the ones talking up 'low-yield' strategies w/ Europeans/NATO allies.)

“We cannot allow that perception to persist,” Gen. Paul Selva, the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said.

Selva said the recent Nuclear Posture Review (NPR) ensured the U.S. could match any nuclear threat,
including that of a low-yield nuclear weapon.

-------

Basically, the article is a complete load of horseshiit...
It reviews a MIplex pep rally talking to itself...
and justifying the 2019 Defense budget.




The below snip from the article shows the prevalent hubris in COMPLETE denial
of the non-nuke simplicity & dominance of the kinzhal 'dagger' capabilities.



“All of those set a vector for where we want to move the department,
and they are all nested in how we built the fiscal year 2019 budget request,” he said.

The nuclear strategy and acquiring the best and most advanced technologies are vital elements
as the U.S. seeks to apply its power and influence around the world, Selva told the conference audience.

"The U.S. EMPIRE must continue to build strong alliances,
and another important aspect in national security
is to maintain the capability and capacity to deploy forces anywhere in the world
and project American power where necessary to defend U.S. interests"

“If there is no other reason to bring new technologies and capabilities into our force today,
it’s to make sure that no asymmetry from an outside force
can prevent us from projecting American force, power and influence
at the point in place of our choosing,”.



Well General... it's already happened. without nukes.
but your 'audience' is too busy fapping and plundering the treasury
to create more FAT TARGETS.

timosman
03-08-2018, 06:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB0I1lzhWSA

goldenequity
03-09-2018, 08:53 AM
Cheesy. right.





►‘Urgently engage with Russia’: US senators call for dialogue after new nuclear arsenal unveiled
https://www.rt.com/news/420839-us-russia-dialogue-nuclear-arsenal/




►Amid Heightened Tension, Markey, Merkley, Feinstein, and Sanders Press Trump Administration to Jumpstart New Strategic Talks with Russia
https://www.markey.senate.gov/news/press-releases/amid-heightened-tension-markey-merkley-feinstein-and-sanders-press-trump-administration-to-jumpstart-new-strategic-talks-with-russia

Thursday, March 8, 2018
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Amid heightened tension with Russia, U.S. Senators Edward J. Markey (D-MA), Jeff Merkley (D-OR), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), and Bernie Sanders (I-VT) today urged Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to begin a new round of strategic talks with Russia without delay.



“Nobody wanted to talk to us about the root of the problem. Nobody listened to us; so listen to us now!”

goldenequity
03-09-2018, 12:44 PM
This is funny... Russian 'humor' TOTALLY targeting Heather babes. :)

background:
so...
Russia has been stating their desire for 'serious' discussions between Lavrov and Tillerson (for probably more than a week)
Now both are doing 'tours' of African nations and their independent but converging 'schedules'
would allow a potential meeting to take place in Ethiopia.

Despite all efforts, (arrogant/obstructionist) Heather babes says
'the American side had not received a request for a meeting from the Russian government.'

so Russia 'suggests' using Twitter as it 'may be more reliable'.. :):)

Russia’s embassy in US offers Twitter to organize meeting with Tillerson
http://tass.com/politics/993331
Twitter seems to be more reliable and quicker communication channel (under your government control) on urgent issues. We are ready to share copies of our "formal invitations" via DM (direct message). Provided you start following @RusEmbUSA," he wrote on his Twitter page.

Earlier reports said that the US Department of State Spokesperson Heather Nauert said that the American side had not received a request for a meeting from the Russian government.

timosman
03-10-2018, 03:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W-7arnvt6U

goldenequity
03-10-2018, 04:35 AM
"Sanctions have nothing to do with the myth of some Russian interference in the US election.
Sanctions are about something else entirely: the desire to halt Russia’s progress, to contain Russia.
This policy of containing Russia has been pursued for decades, on and off. Now it is back.
It is a misguided policy, which not only affects Russian-US relations but also US businesses
because it frees up space for their competitors on our market," Putin said.

I think it is impossible to contain Russia anywhere. You need to understand this. you cannot even contain North Korea...
What are you talking about? Why would you do that?
Why do we have to contain, attack or cast suspicion on each other? We are offering cooperation'"





Putin: Blame Game Between US, Russia 'Road to Nowhere'
https://sputniknews.com/russia/201803101062387726-russia-usa-blame-game-putin/

https://cdn3.img.sputniknews.com/images/106239/01/1062390129.jpg

WASHINGTON (Sputnik) - Russian President Vladimir Putin has said the continued mutual accusations between Moscow and Washington would lead nowhere
and acknowledged that US President Donald Trump realized that too.

"Despite the fact that he is a first-time president, he is a quick study and he understands very well that this level,
where we are, engaging in mutual accusations, this is a road to nowhere," he said.

Asked if Trump was an effective leader, Putin replied, "He clearly has leadership qualities.
They are clearly present because he takes responsibility for making decisions… This is undoubtedly a sign of having leadership qualities."

The Russian President denied being treated with reverence by his US counterpart, whom he described as an experienced and pragmatic businessman.

"I don’t think he treats me personally with reverence. I believe that he is an experienced person," Putin said.

"He’s a businessman with vast experience," he added.
"And he understands that if it is necessary to establish a cooperative relationship with someone
then you have to treat your current or potential partner with respect. Otherwise nothing will come of it. I think this is a purely pragmatic approach."


The two heads of state met last year on the margins of the G20 Summit in Hamburg, Germany.
In a documentary released earlier this week, Putin said he was not disappointed with Donald Trump because one could negotiate with him.

Asked if he ever reads Trump’s tweets, Putin replied, "No," and added he never tweets because he has
"other ways of expressing my point of view or implementing a decision. Donald is a more modern individual."

The Russian president spoke with an NBC anchor on two occasions in Russia last week for a special show, "Confronting Putin," airing Friday night.


During the interview, the Russian head of state denied giving orders or in any way encouraging anyone to interfere in the 2016 US presidential elections.

Pressured on whether he condoned alleged meddling, Putin said, "No, we don’t encourage them and we don’t order them."

He said individuals – who could have been Russians but not government officials – could have sent information on the elections from anywhere around the world.

"You tell me they are Russians. So what? Maybe, being Russian, they were working for some kind of an American company," Putin said,
adding there were 146 million Russians.

On Anti-Russia Sanctions

Speaking about the anti-Russia sanctions, the Russian head noted that
they hadn't been imposed because of alleged Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, but were aimed at containing Russia and its progress.

"Listen, sanctions have nothing to do with the myth of some Russian interference in the US election. Sanctions are about something else entirely: the desire to halt Russia’s progress, to contain Russia. This policy of containing Russia has been pursued for decades, on and off. Now it is back. It is a misguided policy, which not only affects Russian-US relations but also US businesses because it frees up space for their competitors on our market," Putin said.

"I think it is impossible to contain Russia anywhere. You need to understand this. Listen, you cannot even contain North Korea. What are you talking about? Why would you do that? Why do we have to contain, attack or cast suspicion on each other? We are offering cooperation," Putin said asked about whether Russia could be contained in cyber warfare.

Earlier this month, the White House announced that the punitive measures against Russia, imposed by the US government on March 6, March 16, March 20, and December 19, 2014 in the wake of Crimea's reunification with Russia and the Ukrainian crisis, would be extended for one more year.

goldenequity
03-10-2018, 05:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jojX-8qzcjg


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"The Turkish government has opened the border to tens of thousands of terrorists to infiltrate Syria."
Syria’s Ambassador to the United Nations Bashar Jaafari told Sputnik.

goldenequity
03-10-2018, 05:56 AM
moved.

goldenequity
03-10-2018, 05:35 PM
Closer look at the Kinzahl

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https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/status/972585472517197831

Swordsmyth
04-04-2018, 02:32 PM
U.S. intelligence agencies monitored two Russian tests of an experimental nuclear-powered cruise missile in recent months and found both tests failed to demonstrate the novel use of a reactor to fuel long-range flight, according to Pentagon officials.
The two flight tests were conducted in the Russian arctic, including one in November on the island of Novaya Zemlya, the location of a Russian air base and nuclear testing site.
During both tests, the nuclear power source failed to ignite. “Both times it didn’t light,” one defense official said.
This official said the tests raised concerns Moscow created nuclear fallout from the missile impact, either in waters around Novaya Zemlya or on arctic land in northern Russia.

More at: http://freebeacon.com/national-security/pentagon-russia-tested-nuclear-powered-cruise-missile-twice/

The Rebel Poet
04-13-2018, 02:34 AM
You are so distracted. Hillary's whining about election tampering in no way compares with this aggressive volley from trump, which is what Putin is specifically responding to -

https://www.defense.gov/Portals/1/Documents/pubs/2018-National-Defense-Strategy-Summary.pdf

You should wake up from your stupid Hillary fixation already.
Hillary Derangement Syndrome. Hillary lost and has been not president for over a year and they still bring her into every conversation.