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donnay
02-26-2018, 06:54 AM
Pat Buchanan: ‘The Bush Party Has Become a Trump Party’ on Immigration, Trade, Staying Out of Foreign Wars

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by JOHN BINDER25 Feb 2018Washington, D.

Populist conservative icon Pat Buchanan has declared victory within the Republican Party, saying “The Bush party has become a Trump party” on the key issues of immigration, trade, and staying out of foreign wars.

During the weekly show The McLaughlin Group, Buchanan—a pioneer of the economic nationalist movement—said the war within the “conservative movement” was “over,” saying President Trump’s agenda of economic nationalism has finally beat out decades of free trade, open borders, and global interventionist dogma favored by the Republican establishment and neoconservative wing of the party.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=386&v=507yv_zdVQ8

BUCHANAN: It’s over Tom. The Bush party has become a Trump party. What the Republican Party is, basically, it is a Reagan party on issues like taxes, and guns, and judges and things like that, it remains that. However, on the new issues, the populist conservative issues—control of the border, immigration, economic nationalism versus free trade, staying out of foreign wars that get us entangled and bleeding and accomplish nothing, ‘America First’—[the GOP] has become the Trump party now. [Emphasis added]

Chicago Tribune columnist Clarence Page agreed with Buchanan that the GOP on the issues of immigration, trade, and foreign wars had ditched the globalist policies of former President George W. Bush.

PAGE: First of all, congratulations Pat. As I’ve said before: the party of Trump is the party of Buchanan. Trump came into it without ideology. But when he does express it, he tends to lean toward Buchanan. I mean, you had the Buchanan fence, he’s got the wall. [Emphasis added]

Buchanan also slammed neoconservative commentator Bill Kristol, saying, “He’s a neocon and a ‘Never Trumper,’ excuse me.”

The declaration by Buchanan came following the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), which featured a slew of economic nationalist speakers—including Trump, himself—such as Sebastian Gorka, France’s Marion Le Pen, Fox News’ Laura Ingraham, and Britain’s Nigel Farage.

As Breitbart News reported, CPAC attendees were avidly opposed to the views of open borders wing of the Republican and Democratic Party establishments, booing down a speaker when he suggested that illegal aliens from Mexico are natural-born conservatives.

CPAC attendees also fiercely defended Marion Le Pen—whose aunt, Marine Le Pen, is the leader of France’s economic nationalist party, the Front National—when ‘Never Trump’ National Review columnist Mona Charen smeared the Le Pen family, Breitbart London reported.

“The only reason she was here is she’s named Le Pen. And the Le Pen name is a disgrace,” Charen said as CPAC attendees booed her down in defense of Marion.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MSklbosLSs

Most recent polling shows Americans—and specifically Republican voters—are aligned to economic nationalism when it comes to immigration and trade.

On trade, a Rasmussen Reports poll released this month found that Americans are increasingly supportive of tariffs to protect U.S. industries such as steel and lumber, as well as American jobs, against rapid globalization.

Once a hot-spot for free-traders, this year CPAC opted to ditch its renowned support for endless free trade, inviting Bill Walton, a former Trump transition team member, to speak on the issue in which he demanded the Trump administration to act quickly and strong against China.

Walton said at CPAC:

For conservatives, how does allowing China to constantly rig trade in its favor advance the core conservative goal of making markets more efficient. [Emphasis added]



The State Department has seen advancing American economic and business interests as beneath them. While we have our own fair share of special interest cronyism in the United States, nevertheless we have largely trusted the market to advance our interests.

I am emphatically not recommending that we engage in a trade war or any kind of war with China. What I do believe is that we need to recognize this issue and develop strategies to deal with Chinese mercantilism that will benefit all Americans. [Emphasis added]

On immigration, as Breitbart News reported, a Harvard-Harris poll last week revealed that GOP voters now say reducing overall immigration to the United States should be the second-greatest priority for Trump and the Republican-controlled Congress.

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Last month’s Harvard-Harris poll found that more Americans support zero immigration to the U.S. than they support current legal immigration levels, whereby between one to 1.5 million mostly low-skilled legal immigrants are admitted to the country every year.

Likewise, nearly 80 percent of Americans said they supported Trump’s plan to change the country’s immigration system to one based on merit, skills, and English proficiency, rather than the current system where foreign nationals with family members living in the U.S. are given priority.

John Binder is a reporter for Breitbart News. Follow him on Twitter at @JxhnBinder.
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acptulsa
02-26-2018, 07:07 AM
If it's no longer the Bush party when it comes to foreign wars, why is it doubling down on all of Bush's perpetual wars?

enhanced_deficit
02-26-2018, 08:16 AM
Pat Buchanan: ‘The Bush Party Has Become a Trump Party’ on Immigration, Trade, Staying Out of Foreign Wars
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Indeed.


Pre-election Trump: It is time to get out of Afghanistan ; Pence: Longest US War will go on (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517987-Pre-election-Trump-It-is-time-to-get-out-of-Afghanistan-Pence-Longest-US-War-will-go-on&)

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euphemia
02-26-2018, 08:38 AM
I get the feeling Trump would be happy bringing most of them home. I feel pretty sure he's asking a lot of questions behind the scenes. Others inherited their jobs, too. I'm sure some of the reasoning was forgotten a long time ago. They are just over there because they are. Trump is asking why. I'd like to think he will say, "That's not a good reason. These people come home in 6 months. Start shutting down."

CCTelander
02-26-2018, 08:38 AM
If it's no longer the Bush party when it comes to foreign wars, why is it doubling down on all of Bush's perpetual wars?


And doing its level best to seriously antagonize both China and Russia, which could easily result in WWIII. But hey, no biggie, right?

acptulsa
02-26-2018, 08:44 AM
And doing its level best to seriously antagonize both China and Russia, which could easily result in WWIII. But hey, no biggie, right?

But he's seriously questioning behind the scenes, so it's all good. I'm sure those tensions are only there because they are.

WWIII can be forgiven if China and Russia were just calling Trump's bluff, right? If it begins on a bluff, none of the victims die, right?

What's a few million dead if it gets us a Better Deal (TM)?

CCTelander
02-26-2018, 08:56 AM
But he's seriously questioning behind the scenes, so it's all good. I'm sure those tensions are only there because they are.

WWIII can be forgiven if China and Russia were just calling Trump's bluff, right? If it begins on a bluff, none of the victims die, right?

What's a few million dead if it gets us a Better Deal (TM)?


Exactly. And Trump's also working hard to keep those damn dirty Messican socialists from diluting our pool of native socialists, and also working hard to get new gun control passed to keep our kids safe, so there's even more win there.

Influenza
02-26-2018, 09:18 AM
I get the feeling Trump would be happy bringing most of them home. I feel pretty sure he's asking a lot of questions behind the scenes. Others inherited their jobs, too. I'm sure some of the reasoning was forgotten a long time ago. They are just over there because they are. Trump is asking why. I'd like to think he will say, "That's not a good reason. These people come home in 6 months. Start shutting down."
LOL

acptulsa
02-26-2018, 09:18 AM
Exactly. And Trump's also working hard to keep those damn dirty Messican socialists from diluting our pool of native socialists, and also working hard to get new gun control passed to keep our kids safe, so there's even more win there.

But it's all 48DD chess. Next thing you know he'll turn on them and before you know it, all the golf courses will be federalized. Then he can begin fracking Yellowstone and see if ExxonMobil can make Old Faithful spout oil every twenty minutes.

And if that triggers The Big Eruption, no worries. His faithful minions will just say, it's good. It's good The Donald tried to shake California loose from the continent, and let it float out to sea!

TheCount
02-26-2018, 10:36 AM
I get the feeling Trump would be happy bringing most of them home. I feel pretty sure he's asking a lot of questions behind the scenes. Others inherited their jobs, too. I'm sure some of the reasoning was forgotten a long time ago. They are just over there because they are. Trump is asking why. I'd like to think he will say, "That's not a good reason. These people come home in 6 months. Start shutting down." This is where the Trump fan fiction comes from.

dannno
02-26-2018, 10:46 AM
But he's seriously questioning behind the scenes, so it's all good.


This is where the Trump fan fiction comes from.


Pretending like last week didn't happen again?


[Trump] has repeatedly pressed Mattis and McMaster in stark terms to explain why U.S. troops are in Somalia. “Can’t we just pull out?” he has asked, according to U.S. officials.

And Trump questioned US involvement in Afghanistan, which is now the country’s longest war:

In a meeting with his top national security aides, the president grew frustrated.

“You guys want me to send troops everywhere,” Trump said, according to officials in the Situation Room meeting. “What’s the justification?”

“Sir, we’re doing it to prevent a bomb from going off in Times Square,” Mattis replied.

The response angered Trump, who insisted that Mattis could make the same argument about almost any country on the planet.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?519380-Trump-Growing-Weary-of-the-Generals-Domineering-Control-of-Foreign-Policy


Amazing you guys will throw Tom Woods and other people promoting liberty under the bus because they actually prefer a President who is asking real questions about our wars and wants to bring the troops home... you think some deep state tool is going to be the exact same, really??

Raginfridus
02-26-2018, 10:47 AM
Maybe so, OP. Trump's just not the man to go balls out and call everyone home and deport anchor babies.

What's he signed for trade?

acptulsa
02-26-2018, 10:48 AM
Pretending like last week didn't happen again?



http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?519380-Trump-Growing-Weary-of-the-Generals-Domineering-Control-of-Foreign-Policy

Because infowars. You betcha.

So where are the returning troops? I'd like to go welcome them home.

dannno
02-26-2018, 10:50 AM
Because infowars. You betcha.

So where are the returning troops? I'd like to go welcome them home.

What do you think is going to happen after Trump's sole foreign policy mission that he promised is successful?

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Influenza
02-26-2018, 10:55 AM
What do you think is going to happen after Trump's sole foreign policy mission that he promised is successful?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSGVImCUIAEMFoI.jpg

Perpetual occupation of oil rich parts of Syria, as we are currently seeing?

acptulsa
02-26-2018, 10:57 AM
What do you think is going to happen after Trump's sole foreign policy mission that he promised is successful?

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North Korea?

Aren't we talking about the guy who also said something about stealing resources from around the globe?

Don't you feel kind of silly parroting Defense Department propaganda?

And this makes him President NotBush because...?

Raginfridus
02-26-2018, 11:24 AM
This is where the Trump fan fiction comes from.

From feelings? Thats true. Typically the progs get the feelz...

TheCount
02-26-2018, 11:42 AM
Pretending like last week didn't happen again?

You're defending fan fiction with even more fan fiction?


If your anonymous source is true, is the 'Trump wants to kill all drug dealers' anonymous source also true? Or is this a religious faith thing?

dannno
02-26-2018, 11:50 AM
If your anonymous source is true, is the 'Trump wants to kill all drug dealers' anonymous source also true? Or is this a religious faith thing?

It's possible that he has joked about it, which is what he was doing according to the source. But fortunately all he wants to do is make really harsh sentences for fentanyl, which is a deadly additive that is fraudulently added to and sold as heroin. A lot of these people could legitimately be charged with murder, so a light 5 year sentence is pretty lenient.

acptulsa
02-26-2018, 11:51 AM
It's possible that he has joked about it, which is what he was doing according to the source. But fortunately all he wants to do is make really harsh sentences for fentanyl, which is a deadly additive that is fraudulently added to and sold as heroin. A lot of these people could legitimately be charged with murder, so a light 5 year sentence is pretty lenient.

Which is why he appointed Jeff Sessions as AG, of course.

Fan fiction was a lot easier to write during the campaign, when there were a lot fewer pesky facts to try to weave into the narrative.

Swordsmyth
02-26-2018, 02:48 PM
Don't count your chicks before they're hatched Pat.

acptulsa
02-26-2018, 02:50 PM
Don't count your chicks before they're hatched Pat.

He's counting yesterday's omelet as chicks.

undergroundrr
02-26-2018, 02:56 PM
What do you think is going to happen after Trump's sole foreign policy mission that he promised is successful?



So let's say he "defeats" ISIS. What are the next ones going to be called?

I mean, thank goodness we're no longer battling Al Qaeda right?

dannno
02-26-2018, 02:57 PM
Don't count your chicks before they're hatched Pat.

Ya I agree with him to a large extent, but you're right it's still too early to celebrate.. but I'm all ready to wake up any day now and see the headlines that we are starting to pull troops out.

dannno
02-26-2018, 02:59 PM
So let's say he "defeats" ISIS. What are the next ones going to be called?

I don't know, maybe you should ask whatever deep state tool is probably going to be elected after Trump (unless Rand or some other anti-deep state person gets elected after Trump).

undergroundrr
02-26-2018, 03:29 PM
I don't know, maybe you should ask whatever deep state tool is probably going to

... inherit the biggest offense budget in history.

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Raginfridus
02-26-2018, 05:08 PM
"We love and need our military..."

So why are they fighting other peoples' wars?

If Trump really wants a war that aligns with his campaign promises, he would pull out of Asia and invade Mexico.

CaptUSA
02-26-2018, 06:07 PM
Man, the Trump blinders are on proud display in this thread! Don’t look at the results, look at what I think might possibly be really happening behind the scenes that isn’t really manifesting itself in any tangible action. But trust us, I’m sure it’s really there somewhere.

dannno
02-26-2018, 06:10 PM
Man, the Trump blinders are on proud display in this thread! Don’t look at the results, look at what I think might possibly be really happening behind the scenes that isn’t really manifesting itself in any tangible action. But trust us, I’m sure it’s really there somewhere.

No, you see, I'm actually interested in the results of his term as a whole, not what he did in the first year to fight ISIS and extrapolate that into the rest of his term..

juleswin
02-26-2018, 10:23 PM
Pat Buchanan has completely lost it, you know I used to wonder how anyone can fall for the Obama deception when the evidence of the con job was very evident among most people and then I see what is going on around here with Trump. Except for dannno who I think his brain has completely rotten from all the hours listening to Stefan, I am saddened by everybody else on this thread who believes the Pat idiocy on Trump.

At least Pat can blame senility and old age, you guys have no excuse other than low political IQ and personality cult.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc

Some of you people should not laughing at this woman, at least she woke up when he actually saw his policies in action. You people have experienced Trump policies and are still delusional.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUHoAaDlhDo

kahless
02-26-2018, 11:31 PM
I would vote for him again if he ran for President. Paul/Buchanan or Buchanan/Paul 2020.

acptulsa
02-27-2018, 06:47 AM
I would vote for him again if he ran for President. Paul/Buchanan or Buchanan/Paul 2020.

And Rand Paul would pick an eighty year old veteran of the Nixon White House with a ton of baggage as a running mate because...?

juleswin
02-27-2018, 10:59 AM
And Rand Paul would pick an eighty year old veteran of the Nixon White House with a ton of baggage as a running mate because...?

Pat Buchanan would only be good on foreign policy issues and its not because he is non interventionist but mainly because he doesn't care about Iranians, or Iraqis or Syrians or non Europeans/Americans. He would rather save money on bullets to fight in Syria and instead use it to feed an American citizen than waste it on a Syrian life. To that end, he would be a better candidate than Trump. But in just about every other area, he is just as bad as the Bushes or at best average.

enhanced_deficit
02-27-2018, 07:14 PM
Un-related

Trump: I’ll create a deportation force to eject all illegal immigrants (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?485083-Trump-I%E2%80%99ll-create-a-deportation-force-to-eject-all-illegal-immigrants&)


Heard on Foxnews show "The Five" few days ago a Trump supporting host (MTV's ol Kennedy if I'm not mistaken) say that 'Trump had bigger heart than Obama' when it comes to Mexican migrants. Tried to lookup that video clip but found this news link.
Could it be Jared/Ivanka have made Trump very moderate Republican as conservative Bannon has been implying?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/28/trump-administration-has-deported-fewer-illegal-mexican-immigrants-than-obama-data-shows.html

enhanced_deficit
12-20-2019, 10:08 AM
To give credit where due, in recent weeks MAGA showed strong leadership to get USMCA (NAFTA renamed) passed with almost bipartisan support.

RonZeplin
12-20-2019, 11:21 AM
Carrying on the GHW Bush tradition.

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A New World Order is coming into view.

enhanced_deficit
12-26-2019, 07:48 PM
Carrying on the GHW Bush tradition.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fthemillenniumreport.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F04%2F08b3eb92f7a207e44b 4318a1b8e4d0f5.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

A New World Order is coming into view.

Bush had Cheney's help, Pence is not same though.