13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities accused of defrauding the U.S. governt

[nikcers]

They always wait for "busy" news days to release the real dirt - The US has declared the 2016 rigged

Click here to read the indictment in full. (https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download)

Mueller Accuses Russians of Pro-Trump, Anti-Clinton Meddling

U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller unveiled the details of a widespread and coordinated campaign by Russians to influence the U.S. presidential election in favor of Donald Trump, delivering on his initial mandate by the Justice Department.


In an indictment disclosed in Washington on Friday, Mueller describes a sweeping, years-long, multimillion-dollar conspiracy by hundreds of Russians aimed at criticizing Hillary Clinton and supporting Senator Bernie Sanders and Trump. He charged 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities and accused them of defrauding the U.S. government by interfering with the political process.

The Internet Research Agency, a Russian organization, and the defendants began working in 2014 to interfere in U.S. elections, according to the indictment. They used false personas and social media while also staging political rallies and communicating with “unwitting individuals” associated with the Trump campaign, it said.

[Zippyjuan]

Related: Steve Bannon spent 20 hours answering questions with Muller after he declined to answer any in ten hours before Congress previously.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43079550


Trump-Russia: Steve Bannon questioned in Mueller inquiry

President Donald Trump's former chief strategist, Steve Bannon, has been interviewed as part of an investigation into alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

He met with special counsel Robert Mueller, who leads the inquiry, over two days this week.

Mr Bannon was chairman of Mr Trump's presidential campaign before becoming a top White House official.

But he left his post in August amid reports of tension with other aides.

Mr Mueller is leading an investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to influence the US election. Both Moscow and Mr Trump deny this.

Investigators believe Mr Bannon may hold crucial information on the Trump administration, including details on why former FBI Director James Comey was fired by the president.

Mr Comey has previously said he has "no doubt" that he was fired by Mr Trump to "change" the Russia investigation, a charge the White House denies.

It is not clear what Mr Bannon was questioned about, but he is reported to have spent around 20 hours speaking with Mr Mueller's team.

A source close to the process though told the Associated Press that Mr Bannon answered every question put to him.

This inquiry is running alongside four similar ones being conducted by politicians in Congress, and Mr Bannon spoke to one of them on Thursday.

He appeared in front of the House intelligence committee as part of their own, separate, investigation into possible ties between the Trump campaign and Moscow.

But he frustrated the committee when he refused to answer their questions, opting instead to answer 25 pre-written questions that had been approved by the White House.




Republican Representative Mike Conaway said members of the panel were unhappy with Mr Bannon's responses.

"He did not answer all the questions we'd like answered, so there was frustration among committee members with respect to that," he said.

It is not the first time Mr Bannon has been criticised by the panel.

He voluntarily met with the same committee in January and refused to answer their questions over a 10-hour period.

The committee then issued a subpoena compelling him to return for a second time.

But Mr Bannon was reportedly advised by President Trump to invoke executive privilege, a prerogative allowing him to withhold information.

[juleswin]

The show must go on. Love the fake drama :)

[seapilot]

Wow ,so Muller found evidence that some Russians paid for a few ads on Facebook and used Social media to make fun of Hillary Clinton.

[Origanalist]

Wow ,so Muller found evidence that some Russians paid for a few ads on Facebook and used Social media to make fun of Hillary Clinton.

Nuke em!

[Todd]

Wow ,so Muller found evidence that some Russians paid for a few ads on Facebook and used Social media to make fun of Hillary Clinton.

Yep.. Yawn. What these guys "actually did" and what has been "Alleged to have occurred" are two different things aren't they?

You can go on Social media anytime of the day and find this going on.

[Todd]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/31/british-army-facebook-warriors-77th-brigade




British army creates team of Facebook warriors
Soldiers familiar with social media sought for 77th Brigade, which will be responsible for ‘non-lethal warfare’
Ewen MacAskill, defence correspondent


The British army is creating a special force of Facebook warriors, skilled in psychological operations and use of social media to engage in unconventional warfare in the information age.


Guardian Today: the headlines, the analysis, the debate - sent direct to you
Read more
The 77th Brigade, to be based in Hermitage, near Newbury, in Berkshire, will be about 1,500-strong and formed of units drawn from across the army. It will formally come into being in April.

The brigade will be responsible for what is described as non-lethal warfare. Both the Israeli and US army already engage heavily in psychological operations.

Against a background of 24-hour news, smartphones and social media, such as Facebook and Twitter, the force will attempt to control the narrative.

The 77th will include regulars and reservists and recruitment will begin in the spring. Soldiers with journalism skills and familiarity with social media are among those being sought.

An army spokesman said: “77th Brigade is being created to draw together a host of existing and developing capabilities essential to meet the challenges of modern conflict and warfare. It recognises that the actions of others in a modern battlefield can be affected in ways that are not necessarily violent.”

The move is partly a result of experience in counter-insurgency operations in Afghanistan. It can also be seen as a response to events of the last year that include Russia’s actions in Ukraine, in particular Crimea, and Islamic St

[specsaregood]

Wow ,so Muller found evidence that some Russians paid for a few ads on Facebook and used Social media to make fun of Hillary Clinton.

I wonder how many a country that shall not be named paid for.

[Brian4Liberty]

964576109638582272
https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/964576109638582272

[Brian4Liberty]

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https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/964578476064944129

[Brian4Liberty]

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https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/964573039718535169

[Brian4Liberty]

964578058903736320
https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/964578058903736320

[Brian4Liberty]

964589420711174149
https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/964589420711174149

[nikcers]

This intervention in regards to the Sanders campaign is what really destroyed our coalition.

[Valli6]

So most of what they did took place on social media websites? Pretty lame to continue suggesting that this is why Hillary didn't get elected. It could, however, explain the many bland and clueless comments from supposed-Trump supporters around the internet, in early 2016.

Still i suspect these indictments came out today to distract from another royal fuck-up by the FBI regarding the school shooting yesterday. (ICYMI They'd received a call about the shooter as recently as last month - Jan 5 - describing his behavior, violent postings and concern that he would shoot up a school.)

[nikcers]

So most of what they did took place on social media websites? Pretty lame to continue suggesting that this is why Hillary didn't get elected. It could, however, explain the many bland and clueless comments from supposed-Trump supporters around the internet, in early 2016.

Still i suspect these indictments came out today to distract from another royal $#@!-up by the FBI regarding the school shooting yesterday. (ICYMI They'd received a call about the shooter as recently as last month - Jan 5 - describing his behavior, violent postings and concern that he would shoot up a school.)

Not really, you have to look at in context of the way people were made to feel cheated in the election, not only was a specific sentiment built in the democrat party but they also had the DNC emails get leaked out which made people feel even more cheated.

[Valli6]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/31/british-army-facebook-warriors-77th-brigade

British army creates team of Facebook warriors
Soldiers familiar with social media sought for 77th Brigade, which will be responsible for ‘non-lethal warfare’
Isn't this what Israel has had college kids doing since the 90's? What was it called - "megaphone"?

[acptulsa]

Wow ,so Muller found evidence that some Russians paid for a few ads on Facebook and used Social media to make fun of Hillary Clinton.

What? Russia did to us what the U.S. government also did to us--and every other nation on the face of the Earth?

[nikcers]

What? Russia did to us what the U.S. government also did to us--and every other nation on the face of the Earth?

What was done to us what blow back for what we do to them. This is the justification for meddling in Russia's election now. We have to end the cycle.

[pcosmar]

http://321-wawebvarnish.newscyclecloud.com/storyimage/WA/20140416/ENTERTAINMENT/140419986/AR/0/AR-140419986.jpg?q=100

[Raginfridus]

In that case Israel should be blockaded.

[axiomata]

Any overlap between those indicted and those that Trump declined to impose sanctions on?

[RJB]

Not really, you have to look at in context of the way people were made to feel cheated in the election, not only was a specific sentiment built in the democrat party but they also had the DNC emails get leaked out which made people feel even more cheated.

Are you speaking from first-hand, personal experience?

[nikcers]

Are you speaking from first-hand, personal experience?
Yes, my political voice was silenced because 90% of the people were propagandized by the US government and the Russian government. I don't blame you fucks for falling for fake social media, social media is what made Ron Paul big. The whole thing with Ron Paul was we were bypassing the MSM legalized propaganda and people were aware of it, the fake social media just became more appealing because it had more free stuff and it seemed more real then the fake news. The problem is you guys had a choice, we could of had Rand Paul, we could of stopped world war 3.

[RJB]

I don't blame you fucks... That's nice, but I do blame you for speaking like an idiot in this case.


The problem is you guys had a choice, we could of had Rand Paul, we of stopped world war 3.:rolleyes:. Whatever dude.

[nikcers]

That's nice, but I do blame you for speaking like an idiot in this case.
:rolleyes:. Whatever dude.

Sorry this just makes me mad because its just the tip of the iceberg..a limited release to control the narrative because the US gov is complicit.

[nikcers]

The worst thing of all happens too, the US government has to counter the narrative that America has a stupid leader so they release fake news about his intellectual scores and gave all of the military power to the generals because you can't have an idiot at the helm of the biggest military in the world.

[enhanced_deficit]

Let's wait till investigations are completed and all the facts come out.


Related

The head of US intelligence suggests Jared Kushner shouldn't have full access to classified info (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/02/13/the-head-of-u-s-intelligence-suggests-jared-kushner-shouldnt-have-full-access-to-classified-info/)

[RJB]

Sorry this just makes me mad because its just the tip of the iceberg..a limited release to control the narrative because the US gov is complicit.. Fuck! I have been here from the beginning of this forum and worked on a few satirical political forums and watched Ron Paul get shot down by the shitheads in the controlled media. I've seen plenty of trolls. I have a rant about National Socialists on this forum from 2008 - 09. I need no lecture on how fucked things are. I went from a political optomist to a complete cynic between January 2007 to May of 2008.

[acptulsa]

Let's wait till investigations are completed and all the facts come out.

http://i.imgur.com/SYpuqJS.jpg

[Raginfridus]

you can't have an idiot at the helm of the biggest military in the world.https://media.giphy.com/media/2lz8fL70NwfLi/200w.gif

[newbitech]

Face saving move. There had to be an indictment somewhere somehow relating to Russia and the campaign.

Americans should be outraged and call for a complete top to bottom reset of all of the DOJ and all investigative branches of government.

But, that will never happen. The sad truth is that is not out of the realm of possibility that 13 Russians used a few well placed memes to wreck the political discourse in this country. So sad.

Americans won't see it as an insult, nope. It will be vindication for many and a simple joke for most. Laugh out loud moment for our American culture for sure. The skit is writing itself for out late night comedians, and most people laughing won't realize the joke is still on them.

[euphemia]

Oh, that's clever. Blame it on the Russians. It was never Clinton, Obama, Kerry, or anyone who actually did it.

[goldenequity]

Oh, that's clever. Blame it on the Russians. It was never Clinton, Obama, Kerry, or anyone who actually did it.

John Kerry Approved U.S. Travel VISAs for Russian Operatives Indicted by Mueller for Election Tampering :)
https://truepundit.com/obamas-secretary-state-john-kerry-approved-u-s-travel-visas-russian-operatives-indicted-mueller-election-tampering/



Highlights From Rosenstein's Press Conference
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-16/russians-did-not-alter-outcome-elections-highlights-rosensteins-press-conference

[seapilot]

John Kerry Approved U.S. Travel VISAs for Russian Operatives Indicted by Mueller for Election Tampering :)
https://truepundit.com/obamas-secretary-state-john-kerry-approved-u-s-travel-visas-russian-operatives-indicted-mueller-election-tampering/



Highlights From Rosenstein's Press Conference
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-16/russians-did-not-alter-outcome-elections-highlights-rosensteins-press-conference

Oops!

[PRB]

just so everybody knows, my cell is safe :)

[Brian4Liberty]

It seems like the implications of this indictment have been lost on everyone in the media. What are the actual crimes that were committed here? Mueller and friends are essentially making speech a crime, if it relates to politics and is done by a Russian. What if it is done by someone else?

When will this be applied to the average American? It should be obvious that this is a major step down the road of making certain political speech illegal. This is an attack on the First Amendment.

"Sowing discord" is now a crime? Will they be shutting down CNN and arresting Don Lemon and Rachel Maddow? How about all of the George Soros funded propaganda and troll networks?

Today, it's "Russians". Who will be next?

[nikcers]

I had to look, its like when you are on the highway and you are stuck in traffic because someone got in a wreck and you have to look at the mess. If this is what the rest of the MSM is playing then we are fucked, they are going after Russia and using this election hack narrative fake news to hypnotize people into hating Russia when our Federal government was complicit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2I2j7Mu_Xg

[Brian4Liberty]

I had to look, its like when you are on the highway and you are stuck in traffic because someone got in a wreck and you have to look at the mess. If this is what the rest of the MSM is playing then we are fucked, they are going after Russia and using this election hack narrative fake news to hypnotize people into hating Russia when our Federal government was complicit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2I2j7Mu_Xg

You are right, that report is probably common. You have to like how they slipped in that the Russians hacked the DNC as if it was part of this indictment. It is not part of the indictment, and AFAIK, has never been proven.

And then they have the gall to claim that somehow the use of hashtags on Twitter was due to these Russians! Yeah right, Russians created and promoted the hashtag #Trump2016. :rolleyes: The utter ridiculousness of a claim like that is only exceeded by the straight faces and serious tones they use when pushing this crap.

The entire media is going wth the neoconservative agenda on this. All sides are using this to fear monger about Russia. There is no counter-argument.

[nikcers]

Today, it's "Russians". Who will be next?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiBP7StIBQg

[Raginfridus]

I didn't know this, but Lafayette has a Russian community. I met a painter who's also an acrobat. I suspect it was him who rigged the elections.

[Swordsmyth]

just so everybody knows, my cell is safe :)

Good, we wouldn't want you to be able to escape.

[Valli6]

It seems like the implications of this indictment have been lost on everyone in the media. What are the actual crimes that were committed here? Mueller and friends are essentially making speech a crime, if it relates to politics and is done by a Russian. What if it is done by someone else?

When will this be applied to the average American? It should be obvious that this is a major step down the road of making certain political speech illegal. This is an attack on the First Amendment.

"Sowing discord" is now a crime? Will they be shutting down CNN and arresting Don Lemon and Rachel Maddow? How about all of the George Soros funded propaganda and troll networks?

Today, it's "Russians". Who will be next?

The media is outraged because they're losing their long-held monopoly on misinforming the public. They're screaming about Russians now, but ultimately, what they want is a censored internet that is unable to interfere with their own plans.

[nikcers]

Politico:How Russia turned the internet against AmericaHow the US government used fake news to turn Americans against Russia.

[goldenequity]

Where do I begin...
as usual there's too much to tell... :rolleyes:

Gumshoe George has been drilling down on the 13 named defendants (https://www.scribd.com/article/371702865/The-Full-Text-Of-Mueller-s-Indictment-Of-13-Russians):
(and saying they're NOT (all) 'just' trolls.)

YEVGENIY VIKTOROVICH PRIGOZHIN
MIKHAIL IVANOVICH BYSTROV
MIKHAIL LEONIDOVICH BURCHIK
SERGEY PAVLOVICH POLOZOV
ROBERT SERGEYEVICH BOVDA
DZHEYKHUN NASIMI OGLY ASLANOV A/K/A JAYHOON ASLANOV A/K/A JAY ASLANOV
VADIM VLADIMIROVICH PODKOPAEV
GLEB IGOREVICH V ASILCHENKO
VLADIMIR VENKOV

and

IRINA VIKTOROVNA KAVERZINA
ALEKSANDRA YURYEVNA KRYLOVA
ANNA VLADISLAVOVNA BOGACHEVA
MARIA ANATOLYEVNA BOVDA A/K/A MARIA ANATOL YEVNA BELYAEVA

Specifically Krylova in Michigan... also Bodacheva
I'll update if anything substantial comes up.

you can review his twitter https://twitter.com/georgwebb?lang=en

[Brian4Liberty]

The media is outraged because they're losing their long-held monopoly on misinforming the public. They're screaming about Russians now, but ultimately, what they want is a censored internet that is unable to interfere with their own plans.

On Fox, the propagandists were calling for Facebook, Twitter, etc to put in place "proper controls" on users. At least they weren't openly demanding government action yet. Of course this plays directly into Zuckerberg's hand. He has wanted strict controls and verification on all users for some time. He won't do it on Facebook because it might hurt business, so he will push for internet wide identity verification. Every user of the internet must be registered and verified by the government.

It won't stop Russians or other trolls from doing their thing, but it will stifle the free speech of honest Americans. Ask a citizen of China or North Korea, and they will tell you how it works. You just don't criticize the government or establishment at any time. It's just not done. An IRS audit is the mildest thing that might happen.

[Brian4Liberty]

964680123885613056
https://twitter.com/robjective/status/964680123885613056

[Brian4Liberty]

964680122950234112
https://twitter.com/robjective/status/964680122950234112

[goldenequity]

Walking through the Mueller indictments in the original PDF-legalease format
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/964607901078835200.html

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

I didn't know this, but Lafayette has a Russian community. I met a painter who's also an acrobat. I suspect it was him who rigged the elections.

Wait. . . Mcmaster said it was "incontrovertible". . . so dude. . . you don't have to be suspicious, it was him

[Raginfridus]

Wait. . . Mcmaster said it was "incontrovertible". . . so dude. . . you don't have to be suspicious, it was himOf course!

Why didn't I see it all before?

[seapilot]

On Fox, the propagandists were calling for Facebook, Twitter, etc to put in place "proper controls" on users. At least they weren't openly demanding government action yet. Of course this plays directly into Zuckerberg's hand. He has wanted strict controls and verification on all users for some time. He won't do it on Facebook because it might hurt business, so he will push for internet wide identity verification. Every user of the internet must be registered and verified by the government.

It won't stop Russians or other trolls from doing their thing, but it will stifle the free speech of honest Americans. Ask a citizen of China or North Korea, and they will tell you how it works. You just don't criticize the government or establishment at any time. It's just not done. An IRS audit is the mildest thing that might happen.

Look Russians are spamming anti govt message. CENSOR for national security of course! Their fake news narrative backfired on them for censorship now they have their new boogie man. The real goal is to gain complete control of the internet. The time for them to exert control over the net was late 90s. I think they are trying to shut the barn door after all the animals have escaped.

[Firestarter]

In 1977, Carl Bernstein reported that the CIA recruited many journalists (also foreign) to gather information. They were also fed information (including false) by the CIA, to be published or passed through to for example politicians.
Even before the CIA was established, many journalists who covered World War II were close to people in the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the wartime predecessor of the CIA.

Several executives cooperated with the CIA: Williarn Paley of CBS, Henry Luce of Tirne Inc., Arthur Hays Sulzberger of the New York Times, Barry Bingham Sr. of the LouisviIle Courier‑Journal, and James Copley of the Copley News Service.
Other “news” organizations that cooperated with the CIA include: ABC, NBC, Associated Press (AP), United Press International, Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps‑Howard, Newsweek, Mutual Broadcasting System, Miami Herald and the Saturday Evening Post and New York Herald‑Tribune.

Carl Bernstein also named the following US journalists as CIA assets: Joseph Alsop, Stewart Alsop, Jerry O’Leary, and Hal Hendrix: http://carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php
(archived here: http://archive.is/rZpqr)

I´m just glad that in 2016, it´s the Russians, but not a single American willingly participated in a scheme to alter the 2016 elections.
It´s also very, very reassuring that special cover-up artist Muller found that they failed in changing the outcome of the 2016 elections…

I guess that we can all rest assured if the government can completely invade everybody’s privacy and censorship is complete!

[goldenequity]

PESKOV ON MUELLER'S REPORT: IT SAYS ABOUT INDIVIDUAL RUSSIAN CITIZENS, THERE ARE NO AND CANNOT BE ANY INDICATORS OF RUSSIAN STATE'S INTERFERENCE IN U.S. ELECTIONS IN IT.

http://portada.cloud.noticias24.com/170-Kremlin-Dmitri-Peskov.jpg



Russian senators list 100 examples of US meddling in foreign nations’ affairs
https://www.rt.com/politics/419231-presidential-candidate-grudinin-joins-russian/

https://cdni.rt.com/files/2018.02/article/5a8ae0b3dda4c861268b45b6.jpg

[CCTelander]

It seems like the implications of this indictment have been lost on everyone in the media. What are the actual crimes that were committed here? Mueller and friends are essentially making speech a crime, if it relates to politics and is done by a Russian. What if it is done by someone else?

When will this be applied to the average American? It should be obvious that this is a major step down the road of making certain political speech illegal. This is an attack on the First Amendment.

"Sowing discord" is now a crime? Will they be shutting down CNN and arresting Don Lemon and Rachel Maddow? How about all of the George Soros funded propaganda and troll networks?

Today, it's "Russians". Who will be next?


Dissenters. Who else?

[nikcers]

Dissenters. Who else?
It has always been a crime they just usually silence them through non official means. Maybe they'll break a few ribs or a leg to give them a message, shoot a few warning shots.

[goldenequity]

Where do I begin...
as usual there's too much to tell... :rolleyes:

Gumshoe George has been drilling down on the 13 named defendants (https://www.scribd.com/article/371702865/The-Full-Text-Of-Mueller-s-Indictment-Of-13-Russians):
(and saying they're NOT (all) 'just' trolls.)

YEVGENIY VIKTOROVICH PRIGOZHIN
MIKHAIL IVANOVICH BYSTROV
MIKHAIL LEONIDOVICH BURCHIK
SERGEY PAVLOVICH POLOZOV
ROBERT SERGEYEVICH BOVDA
DZHEYKHUN NASIMI OGLY ASLANOV A/K/A JAYHOON ASLANOV A/K/A JAY ASLANOV
VADIM VLADIMIROVICH PODKOPAEV
GLEB IGOREVICH V ASILCHENKO
VLADIMIR VENKOV

and

IRINA VIKTOROVNA KAVERZINA
ALEKSANDRA YURYEVNA KRYLOVA
ANNA VLADISLAVOVNA BOGACHEVA
MARIA ANATOLYEVNA BOVDA A/K/A MARIA ANATOL YEVNA BELYAEVA

Specifically Krylova in Michigan... also Bodacheva
I'll update if anything substantial comes up.

you can review his twitter https://twitter.com/georgwebb?lang=en


George draws attention to 2 of the (above) named defendants being 'involved' in a KNOWN 2014 'toxic release' incident
also
(earlier) explores the 'lawless' smuggling potential of Drilling Rigs beyond the 12 mile 'limit' of US jurisdiction/Coast Guard


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLrMao7aiSM

[Madison320]

It seems like the implications of this indictment have been lost on everyone in the media. What are the actual crimes that were committed here? Mueller and friends are essentially making speech a crime, if it relates to politics and is done by a Russian. What if it is done by someone else?

When will this be applied to the average American? It should be obvious that this is a major step down the road of making certain political speech illegal. This is an attack on the First Amendment.

"Sowing discord" is now a crime? Will they be shutting down CNN and arresting Don Lemon and Rachel Maddow? How about all of the George Soros funded propaganda and troll networks?

Today, it's "Russians". Who will be next?

I agree. It's highly annoying that the media is using words like "hacked", "tampered" and "stole" to describe this. Were votes tampered with? Were election computers hacked into?

[timosman]

Dissenters. Who else?

Anybody having a clue? http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518952-A-man-with-a-clue

[goldenequity]

Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY):

This dude thinks internet trolling was "equivalent" to Pearl Harbor :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h94bBaME-w

[AZJoe]

So this is all Mueller can produce?

So employees of a private click-bait ad company, that generates revenues with clicks by placing click-bait ads, placed Facebook ads tapping the popularity both for and against both candidates, in order to generate clicks to links for ad revenue . Surprise! Surprise! And these ads constituted a whopping .04% of Facebook ads. And the bulk of the click-bait ads were after the election was already over.

Meanwhile, governments of Israel and Saudi Arabia have their own lobbyists, have spent billions (AIPAC and related lobbyist spends $40 million (http://mondoweiss.net/2015/08/spending-estimated-million/) just trying to kill the Iran deal alone) , court politicians and cabinet members, pour hundreds of millions in a department head's personal slush fund charity, get their own legislation passed in the US, set their own agendas as the US foreign policy.
And then there is also the Israel-gate (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517433-From-%91Russia-Gate%92-to-%91Israel-Gate%92&highlight=israel-gate) documented, recorded collusion with the foreign government of Israel to conspire against and subvert the the policy of the U.S. government and president.

Yep, that Mueller is quite the hound dog tracking down trails.

Welcome to Mad Hatter Mueller's adventures in Bizzaroland.

[AZJoe]

https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27973079_1551781438239236_4864131183520771745_n.jp g?oh=9440c96ce9ac8bfc2cd7d536ea5f8bf0&oe=5B22E496

[AZJoe]

Mueller's "ham sandwich: Indictment a Hail Mary Attempt to Divert Focus from FBI/DOJ Felonies (http://Robert Mueller’s Friday night indictment-spree, is a flagrant and infuriating attempt to divert attention from the damning revelations in the Nunes memo (and the Graham-Grassley “criminal referral”) which prove that senior-level officials at the FBI and DOJ were engaged in an expansive conspiracy to subvert the presidential elections ...Think about what’s Mueller is really up to: He’s not just moving the goalposts, he’s loading them onto a spaceship and putting them on another planet. Where’s the evidence that Russia hacked the DNC computers and stole their emails? Where’s the proof that members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia? That’s what we want to know, not whether some goofy Russian troll was spreading false information on Facebook. That has nothing to do with the original charges. It’s just politically-motivated gibberish that proves Mueller has nothing to support his case. ...“The third thing to say about the indictment – and a point which has been almost universally overlooked in all the feverish commentary about it – is that it makes no claim that the Russian government was in any way involved in any of the activities of the persons indicted. Nowhere in the indictment is the Russian government or any official of the Russian government or any agency of the Russian government mentioned at all. Nor at any point in the indictment is it suggested ...if there was, you can bet that Mueller would have exploited it for all it’s worth. ...The more reasonable explanation is that the hackers were trying to make a little dough on “pageviews or clicks” rather than trying to persuade voters ...” Defendants and their co-conspirators began to track and study groups on U.S. social media sites dedicated to U.S. politics and social issues. In order to gauge the performance of various groups on social media sites, the organization tracked certain metrics like the group’s size, the frequency of content placed by the group, and the level of audience engagement with that content, such as the average number of comments or responses to a post.”WTF! Isn’t this what everyone is doing, including the Intel agencies, advertisers, media and corporations? So now it’s a crime? Give me a break! ... The whole thing is ridiculous and anyone with half a brain knows it’s ridiculous. The only reason this fiasco continues to drag on, is because the mandarins in the US National Security State run everything in America and they’ve decided that they can invent whatever reality suits their foreign policy agenda and the rest of us will simply accept it in silence ...Fortunately, facts and reason appear to be getting the upper hand which why the deep state powerbrokers are getting so desperate. They’re now genuinely concerned about what might “come out” and who might be exposed. ...)

Robert Mueller’s Friday night indictment-spree, is a flagrant and infuriating attempt to divert attention from the damning revelations in the Nunes memo (and the Graham-Grassley “criminal referral”) which prove that senior-level officials at the FBI and DOJ were engaged in an expansive conspiracy to subvert the presidential elections ...

Think about what’s Mueller is really up to: He’s not just moving the goalposts, he’s loading them onto a spaceship and putting them on another planet. Where’s the evidence that Russia hacked the DNC computers and stole their emails? Where’s the proof that members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia? That’s what we want to know, not whether some goofy Russian troll was spreading false information on Facebook. That has nothing to do with the original charges. It’s just politically-motivated gibberish that proves Mueller has nothing to support his case. ...

“The third thing to say about the indictment – and a point which has been almost universally overlooked in all the feverish commentary about it – is that it makes no claim that the Russian government was in any way involved in any of the activities of the persons indicted.
Nowhere in the indictment is the Russian government or any official of the Russian government or any agency of the Russian government mentioned at all. Nor at any point in the indictment is it suggested ... if there was, you can bet that Mueller would have exploited it for all it’s worth. ...

The more reasonable explanation is that the hackers were trying to make a little dough on “pageviews or clicks” rather than trying to persuade voters ...

”Defendants and their co-conspirators began to track and study groups on U.S. social media sites dedicated to U.S. politics and social issues. In order to gauge the performance of various groups on social media sites, the organization tracked certain metrics like the group’s size, the frequency of content placed by the group, and the level of audience engagement with that content, such as the average number of comments or responses to a post.” ... WTF! Isn’t this what everyone is doing, including the Intel agencies, advertisers, media and corporations? So now it’s a crime? Give me a break! ...


The whole thing is ridiculous and anyone with half a brain knows it’s ridiculous. The only reason this fiasco continues to drag on, is because the mandarins in the US National Security State run everything in America and they’ve decided that they can invent whatever reality suits their foreign policy agenda and the rest of us will simply accept it in silence ... Fortunately, facts and reason appear to be getting the upper hand which why the deep state powerbrokers are getting so desperate. They’re now genuinely concerned about what might “come out” and who might be exposed. ...

[AZJoe]

So a tiny handful of private individuals are accused of trolling and the entire system of government in US of A is in jeopardy of crumbling down.

But all would is Ok if a government poured billions of dollars of funding into NGO's to sponsor a color revolution regime change in the USA, and perhaps official foreign diplomats went onto the streets of Washington DC to hand out cookies and pastries and give encouragement to protesters attempting to overthrow the US government. , and the official foreign diplomats were caught on a recorded call deciding the next leader of the USA even before the coup is complete (Like Washington's actions in Ukraine). Now that would be totally fine behavior. But hey, a tiny handful of private individuals "trolling" on the internet - the world is coming to an end.

[Raginfridus]

https://youtu.be/gP7appOSlUM

[AZJoe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzzsH0-Hbm4

[Mach]

"There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America's elections...... so I'd invite Mr. Trump to stop whining and make his case to get votes."
-Obama




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPpt7-QOGKc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLGsgSPs1-I

[AZJoe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Y54-8RR-k

[AZJoe]

While Mueller and the Mainstream Media refuse to show the actual notorious click-bait ads that supposedly were targeted to control the election, now we know why they are suppressing the key central evidence.

Here is one of the frightfully "dangerous" actual click-bait ads that the media wont show you, supposedly designed to control the outcome of an entire election and destroy the American electoral process:

https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://i.imgur.com/4kClEsT.png




Here it is - one of the Facebook ads that swung the election

[shakey1]

http://www.trump-conservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/media-democrats-russian-collusion-cartoon.jpg

[Brian4Liberty]

965328224514465792
https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/965328224514465792

[Brian4Liberty]

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https://twitter.com/JustinRaimondo/status/965625044742299648

[AZJoe]

965960691697049601

[acptulsa]

965960691697049601

They had to inflate it to where it was big enough to hide the Nunes Memo, before they deflated it and swept them both under the rug together.

[AZJoe]

ZeroHedge review (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-20/russian-troll-farm-indictment-shredded-journalist-who-first-profiled-it-2015):


The former director of the FBI has assembled a "dream team" of investigators for his Special Counsel probe and concluded that 13 Russians and 3 entities tried to meddle in the election after an entire year of investigation.
Those efforts had zero impact on the election
Facebook's VP of ads is on record saying "I have seen all of the Russian ads and I can say very definitively that swaying the election was *NOT* the main goal"
The same FB Exec noted that most of the ads were purchased after the election.
Suggesting that the real, underlying narrative is one of US media propaganda, he was then made to walk back his comments and apologize for his "uncleared thoughts (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/20/facebook-ad-executive-rob-goldman-apologizes-for-having-uncleared-thoughts/)"
CNN is rooting around in the trash outside the troll farm.

[Raginfridus]

3 entities...

Were they 3 dimensional entities?

[Brian4Liberty]

So this is all Mueller can produce?

So employees of a private click-bait ad company, that generates revenues with clicks by placing click-bait ads, placed Facebook ads tapping the popularity both for and against both candidates, in order to generate clicks to links for ad revenue . Surprise! Surprise! And these ads constituted a whopping .04% of Facebook ads. And the bulk of the click-bait ads were after the election was already over.

Meanwhile, governments of Israel and Saudi Arabia have their own lobbyists, have spent billions (AIPAC and related lobbyist spends $40 million (http://mondoweiss.net/2015/08/spending-estimated-million/) just trying to kill the Iran deal alone) , court politicians and cabinet members, pour hundreds of millions in a department head's personal slush fund charity, get their own legislation passed in the US, set their own agendas as the US foreign policy.
And then there is also the Israel-gate (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517433-From-%91Russia-Gate%92-to-%91Israel-Gate%92&highlight=israel-gate) documented, recorded collusion with the foreign government of Israel to conspire against and subvert the the policy of the U.S. government and president.

Yep, that Mueller is quite the hound dog tracking down trails.

Welcome to Mad Hatter Mueller's adventures in Bizzaroland.

It is starting to sound like the Steele Dossier 2.0. They essentially based this indictment on a couple of old news reports and dressed it up as if there is a shred of real evidence or a real crime. With the added benefit that they are laying the groundwork to make Tweeting or Facebook sharing a crime if it does not comply with the (one) Party line.

[AZJoe]

Justin Raimondo weighs in on Mad Hatter Mueller (https://original.antiwar.com/justin/2018/02/21/muellers-fraudulent-indictment/)

The indictment (https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download) handed down by Robert Mueller against 13 Russians connected to the Internet Research Agency, a Russian-owned- and- operated clickbait farm, is the capstone of my case that we have indeed entered Bizarro World, an alternate universe where up is down, black is white and truth is a ridiculous falsehood.

Yes, I said clickbait farm – because that’s precisely what the Internet Research Agency (IRA) is … as pointed out here (http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/02/mueller-indictement-the-russian-influence-is-a-commercial-marketing-scheme.html#more), is a money-making operation. Mueller seems to acknowledge this …

“Defendants and their co-conspirators also used the accounts to receive money from real U.S. persons in exchange for posting promotions and advertisements on the ORGANIZATION-controlled social media pages. Defendants and their coconspirators typically charged certain US merchants and US social media sites between 25 and 50 US dollars per post for promotional content on their popular false US persona accounts” …

they focused on “hot button” issues – precisely the sort of thing intended to attract visits and make money for the creators via ads. This business model has been widely utilized by enterprising Macedonian teenagers (https://www.wired.com/2017/02/veles-macedonia-fake-news/) and others out to make a quick buck … The IRA, like other clickbait operations, isn’t really about politics … it’s about making money for it owners. Period. As the Moon of Alabama blogger points out (http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/02/mueller-indictement-the-russian-influence-is-a-commercial-marketing-scheme.html#more) … a fairly profitable business – not a state-run “disinformation” project, but rather good old free enterprise. …

What I want to know is this: what in the name of all that’s holy does Robert Mueller think he’s doing? Is he just plain ignorant of the internet and how it works – or is he mocking us? His “indictment” is nothing but a joke. And as for the hysterics … these people need to be heavily sedated. …

anyone who says they believe the Mueller narrative outlined in his laughable indictment is either clueless or is a cynic who will say anything. The “charges” detailed in this “indictment” – “Conspiracy to Defraud the United States” – are precisely what the authors of this disgraceful document are guilty of themselves.

Russia-gate is a hoax … This “indictment” underscores the extent of the hoax – and the contempt that the government officials and their journalist collaborators … have for the American people. … A child could see through this nonsense.

[timosman]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-putin-reaction/putin-tells-u-s-to-send-evidence-of-vote-meddling-idUSKCN1GF0AS


MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin told Washington to send him hard evidence that his citizens meddled in U.S. elections, mocking accusations to date as“yelling and hollering in the United States Congress”.

The office of U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller charged 13 Russians and three firms last month with interfering in the 2016 presidential vote as part of what it called a conspiracy to support Donald Trump and disparage Hillary Clinton.

“I have to see first what they’ve done. Give us materials, give us information,” Putin said in an interview with NBC TV aired late on Friday, according to an English voice-over of his words.

“We can not respond to that if they do not violate Russian laws,” Putin told NBC’s Megyn Kelly, when asked whether Moscow would take action against the named individuals.

Kelly listed some of the accusations of Russian interference made by Mueller’s office and other U.S. officials, including the spreading of false information online.

“With all due respect for you personally, with all due respect for Congress, you must have people with legal degrees, 100 percent you do,” Putin said smiling.

He said U.S. authorities should send Russia’s general prosecutor an official request.

“This has to go through official channels, not through the press or yelling and hollering in the United States Congress,” Putin said.

The broadcast came a day after Putin announced an array of new nuclear weapons, in one of his most bellicose speeches in years, saying they could hit almost any point in the world and evade a U.S.-built missile shield.

Putin is standing in March 18 elections that polls indicate he should win easily.