Huckabee Self Destructing!

[bmcosti]

Why oh why in the world would Huckabee do this! Apparently he wants to trash the Romney and leave it wide open for Ron Paul.

He wrote an article entitled

"Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"

To be published this Sunday

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316507,00.html

[chinaCat]

haha, wow thats cheap.

[davidhperry]

haha, wow thats cheap.

I hope people will start seeing Huckabee for who he really is and ignore his pandering.

[Primbs]

Man is this going to be a brawl.

[Seanmc30]

Oh the tangled webs we weave.

As with Rudy, Huckabee is now finished. There are just way to many freaky occurrences in his past, plus this ridiculous religious battle he feels he needs to fight....all on top of the fact that the poll came out today and revealed that he would get absolutely trounced by Hillary in the general election.

[axiomata]

And this is why, my friends, you try to stay clean as long as you can. There were many here who wanted the Paul campaign to start attacking Huck as he got a sudden surge of poll support and all his dirty little secrets starting to come up.

We didn't.

And now Romney has gotten scared and has run an ad about Huckabee's immigration stance and now Huckabee is doing this. They will destroy each other and Paul will be there.

[RonPaulVolunteer]

Why oh why in the world would Huckabee do this! Apparently he wants to trash the Romney and leave it wide open for Ron Paul.

He wrote an article entitled

"Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"

To be published this Sunday

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316507,00.html

No way............. :eek:

Fool....

Well, thanks Huck, you had your 15 minutes, now piss off!

.

[mport1]

Man is this going to be a brawl.

Indeed :)

Man, they are both such scumbags.

[Starks]

These assclowns need to focus on winning the primary. If you need to sling mud, you're obviously weak or making up for a male inadequacy.

[dircha]

This is ridiculous.

Of all the problems any serious conservative Christian would have with Mormonism as a religion, *this* is what Huckabee goes with?

[Kregener]

And if while it is destroying Huck, it exposes Mormonism for what it is, so much the better.

[DRV45N05]

That was the lowest blow a candidate could deliver to another in an election besides attacking their family: attacking their religion.

Huckabee showed his true colors there.

[Arek]

Time for the reserves er Hunter and Tancredo to take front runner status.

[rfbz]

DEMS HOLD FIRE ON HUCKABEE; SEE 'EASY KILL' IN GENERAL ELECTION
(http://www.drudgereport.com/flashhu.htm)
**Exclusive**

Democrat party officials are avoiding any and all criticism of Republican presidential contender Mike Huckabee, insiders reveal.

The Democratic National Committee has told staffers to hold all fire, until he secures the party's nomination.

The directive has come down from the highest levels within the party, according to a top source.

Within the DNC, Huckabee is known as the "glass jaw -- and they're just waiting to break it."

In the last three weeks since Huckabee's surge kicked in, the DNC hasn't released a single press release criticizing his rising candidacy.

The last DNC press release critical of Huckabee appeared back on March 2nd.

[DNC Press Release Attack Summary:

Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) – 37% (99 press releases)
Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) – 28% (74)
Senator John McCain (R-AZ) – 24% (64)
Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN) – 8% (20)
Governor Mike Huckabee – 2% (4)]

In fact, as the story broke over the weekend that Huckabee said he wanted to isolate AIDS patients back in 1992, the DNC ignored the opportunity to slam the candidate from the left.

"He'll easily be their McGovern, an easy kill," mocked one senior Democrat operative Tuesday morning from Washington.

"His letting out murderers because they shout 'Jesus', his wanting to put 300,000 AIDS patients and Magic Johnson into isolation, ain't even scratching the surface of what we've got on him."

The discipline the Democrats have shown in not engaging Huckabee has earned the praise of one former Republican Party official:

"The Democrats are doing a much better job restraining themselves than the GOP did in 2003 when Howard Dean looked like he was on the brink of winning the nomination."

A close friend to Huckabee explains: "Look, Mike is Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare. They should be squirming."

Developing...

[austin356]

great news

[LibertyEagle]

Wow, Huckabee just insulted every Mormon in this country.

[LibertyEagle]

Time for the reserves er Hunter and Tancredo to take front runner status.

Huh? No, it's Paul time.:)

[BeFranklin]

And this is why, my friends, you try to stay clean as long as you can. There were many here who wanted the Paul campaign to start attacking Huck as he got a sudden surge of poll support and all his dirty little secrets starting to come up.

We didn't.

And now Romney has gotten scared and has run an ad about Huckabee's immigration stance and now Huckabee is doing this. They will destroy each other and Paul will be there.

The meek shall inherit the earth :)

[Dorfsmith]

I am in complete shock :eek: What Presidential candidate in their right mind would do this?

[TheIndependent]

And this is why, my friends, you try to stay clean as long as you can. There were many here who wanted the Paul campaign to start attacking Huck as he got a sudden surge of poll support and all his dirty little secrets starting to come up.

Here's the thing, like Ives in Iowa said: We're in the perfect place right now. We're not peaking too early (that allows for exposure to attacks, along with supporter discontent and malaise once said attacks begin in earnest), and we're not going to peak too late.

About the only 'attacks' that have come from this camp are from independent-minded Paul supporters on Digg, so far as I've seen, and I hope they stop.

The beauty of this is it frames the sworn 'I won't attack' Huckabee as a hypocrite, and the tussle between them as a religious candidate 'mini-war' which will take them both down just in time for Iowa and New Hampshire. Giuliani's already facing a major loss of support, Thompson's abandoned N.H. so look for Paul to pick up his votes, and McCain's Bush-like rhetoric isn't energizing anyone but himself.

The sickest thing about this? Huckabee said he wouldn't talk about his faith, and keeps his sermons off the political table. Here he is trying to draw another's out.

[Jodi]

Time for the reserves er Hunter and Tancredo to take front runner status.


Oh Now that is Funny!!

[Duckman]

Wow, Huckabee just insulted every Mormon in this country.

Yeah. Best steer clear of this mess.

Only Ron Paul is a uniter. The rest are dividers.

[klamath]

Wow! The independents and swing voter democrats are going to be viewing this agast.

[austin356]

Time for the reserves er Hunter and Tancredo to take front runner status.


They are still alive?:confused::confused::confused:

[chinaCat]

After reading the entire article I notice that fox sensationalized the headline a little (surprised?).
I guess his article talks about many things, and it seems to come off as an off handed remark. (which I am sure the huckabe camp will say is an inncocent question or something). Its still very cheap, but its funny watching them have their little wars. I'm looking forward to when Paul wins some primaries and they feel the need to try and attack him. That wont be too easy.

[austin356]

I am in complete shock :eek: What Presidential candidate in their right mind would do this?


Paul supporter infiltrated his ring of political consultants?

[dircha]

What could possibly be his strategy in this attack? Is he just stupid?

He can't win the nomination with conservative Christians alone, much less the general election.

Maybe he can't afford internal pollsters and advisers and just genuinely has no clue?

[LibertyEagle]

Huckabee comes off as a real jerk in this article.

[lasenorita]

Is this a subtle dig at Mike Huckabee for raising a son who hung and murdered a stray dog while at Boy Scout Camp (http://dogblog.dogster.com/2007/12/06/presidential-candiate-mike-huckabees-son-david-tortured-and-killed-stray-dog-in-1998-charges-never-file-and-huckabee-not-punished/)?


"For those who want to know how Governor Romney's faith informs his values, they can look at how he lives his life and how he has raised his family," Madden said.

[Visual]

I'm gonna go get some popcorn, I think the Romney-Huck fight will be entertaining and give us a boost too!

[Pete Kay]

I hope that at the next debate Romney and Huckabee start attacking each other.

[TheIndependent]

Is this a subtle dig at Mike Huckabee for raising a son who hung and murdered a stray dog while at Boy Scout Camp (http://dogblog.dogster.com/2007/12/06/presidential-candiate-mike-huckabees-son-david-tortured-and-killed-stray-dog-in-1998-charges-never-file-and-huckabee-not-punished/)?

Probably not too far off, there. Good observation.

But yes, steer clear from attacks right now. Just sit back and observe and change tactics accordingly.

[conner_condor]

WOW!!! Talking about having a long shlong and useing it on your self for all to see. He did this so well it should be posted in a porn mag.

[BeFranklin]

After reading the entire article I notice that fox sensationalized the headline a little (surprised?).
I guess his article talks about many things, and it seems to come off as an off handed remark. (which I am sure the huckabe camp will say is an inncocent question or something). Its still very cheap, but its funny watching them have their little wars. I'm looking forward to when Paul wins some primaries and they feel the need to try and attack him. That wont be too easy.

No, it playing that way in the Salt Lake newspaper too:

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_7693729?source=rss

[MGreen]

Well, thanks Huck, you had your 15 minutes, now piss off!
This is one of the few times where the 15 minutes are almost, in fact, only 15 minutes.

All I want for Christmas is a Huckabee implosion.

[bmcosti]

So this thread got moved. Where did it go to? And why did it get moved? Hmmm...

[conner_condor]

COUNCIL BLUFFS, Iowa (CNN) – Mike Huckabee called fellow Republican Mitt Romney’s new ad “desperate” Tuesday, comparing his actions to those of “a tattle-tale in third grade.”

“We didn’t like it when we were in the third grade, I don’t think we like it running for president either,” the former Arkansas governor said during an Iowa press conference. “The more desperate and frantic campaigns get when they see how much money they’ve spent and we’re winning, that causes people to do some sometimes desperate things.”

Right on huck, Desperate things is one thing,opening your mouth without thinking is another. I see a visa priceless ad coming from this.

[JWallace]

Time for the reserves er Hunter and Tancredo to take front runner status.

snorted when I saw this. funny

[amonasro]

Huckabee going for the juglar :rolleyes:

Seriously this is the worst thing he could possibly do. It completely discredits him among Christians. They know any Pastor worth his salt knows quite a bit about the Mormon religion. It makes him sound like a complete moron.

[Wickwire]

This is now on Drudge and in Red for all to see.:)

[TheIndependent]

Man, talk about digging one's own grave. Huck's site now has a 'clarification', if you could call it that:


News Release: Huckabee Campaign Responds to AP/New York Times Report
December 11, 2007
LITTLE ROCK, AR – A report released tonight cites an upcoming article in the Sunday edition of The New York Times Magazine which quotes former Arkansas Governor and Presidential Candidate Mike Huckabee asking a question about the content of the Mormon faith. In fact, the full context of the exchange makes it clear that Governor Huckabee was illustrating his unwillingness to answer questions about Mormonism and to avoid addressing theological questions during this campaign.

“Governor Huckabee has said consistently that he believes this campaign should center on a discussion of the important issues confronting our nation,” said Senior Advisor, Dr. Charmaine Yoest, “and not focus on questions of religious belief. He wants to assure persons of all faith traditions of his firm commitment to religious tolerance and freedom of worship. Governor Huckabee believes that one of the great strengths of our nation lies in its diversity of thought, opinion and faith.”

Sure is a funny way of 'clarifying'.

[conner_condor]

Man, talk about digging one's own grave. Huck's site now has a 'clarification', if you could call it that:



Sure is a funny way of 'clarifying'.


This should show that he is very dangerous person.Imagine the muslim countries if he got in office and talked about their religion.You will have attacks on this soil for sure.He is not a safe choice for our countries peace. Think about it,he goes cocking off about muslims and their beliefs. People better wake the F/K up and see how dangerous huck is for us as a country. We do not need that lunatic in charge of our country.

[pahs1994]

thank god, i can't wait for Hucka-Mania to be dead. Not that there was many Hucka-maniacs to begin with. Just the imaginary ones that the media created.

[TheIndependent]

I partially agree, if only for the fact that Huckabee would be the perfect symbol of a religious escalation against the Middle East. Tactically speaking, the worst thing we can do is come off as an even deeper theocracy than that which Bush has already projected. It would not only be more dangerous for us, but for Christians around the world. (And this is an atheist speaking.)

I seriously doubt Huck's supporters have thought through the implications a Huckabee or Romney presidency would present on the world stage, and the perception other nations would have for us as a result. Both of these candidates are far, far too theologically driven in terms of the clear demarcation line between being religious, and being a religious zealot. A cursory scan of the rhetoric from Huckabee and over there at the Huck's Army forum demonstrates that in a crystalline manner.

Right now, what you're seeing between Huckabee and Romney is a clear-cut case of religious zealotry; a miniature 'holy war' between Christianity and Mormonism, if you will, with neither camp appearing particularly tolerant towards one another. (Have you read some of their supporter's sites? It makes the candidates seem tame, if you can imagine that; I stumbled across one Huck supporter who actually still advocated isolating AIDS patients today, for instance. Freedom Brothers, I believe it was.) While it won't go over well for either of them in the end, what others see is a clear-cut disrespect for the Islamic faith through their perpetual emphasis on continuing the war. In the case of Huckabee, it's even emptier, as it's nothing more than a continuation based on "saving face" and "restoring honor" to our country. Such prideful stances have led to the downfall of entire civilizations in the past, and I'm afraid what Huckabee represents is nothing different.

What Paul represents is a reasonable approach to invoking religious convictions without having to tell everyone that he believes in God to prove himself. That's what sets him apart from the rest, and thankfully we have such a candidate on the ticket. Even atheists such as myself can respect such a perspective, and it's always refreshing to wake up and realize that, hey, there are Christians out there that don't need to whip it out and measure it against everyone else, then scream it to the world in order to prove something that shouldn't have to be proven to begin with.

[merrimac]

I'll bet that the MSM will barely cover this. At this point, they must know that the other neocon candidates have knocked themselves out. They can't afford to lose Huckabee cause if they do then Ron Paul has a clear road to the White House :cool:

[conner_condor]

I'll bet that the MSM will barely cover this. At this point, they must know that the other neocon candidates have knocked themselves out. They can't afford to lose Huckabee cause if they do then Ron Paul has a clear road to the White House :cool:

No candidate ever had a chance of beating RP.I don't care how big the media makes anyone,RP has something the other candidates don't. And everyone should know what it is.

[Midnight77]

As Romney and Huckabee tear each other apart, people will grow tired of them, we do the Tea Party for another burst of news coverage ... then we swoop in for the victory.

[voytechs]

I'll bet that the MSM will barely cover this. At this point, they must know that the other neocon candidates have knocked themselves out. They can't afford to lose Huckabee cause if they do then Ron Paul has a clear road to the White House :cool:

Hey, don't use MSM, its called "Old Media" now!

[noztnac]

Lets not get too cocky guys. Ron Paul is far superior but these other guys are still leading in the polls. We still have to get the message out.

[jgmaynard]

And this is why, my friends, you try to stay clean as long as you can. There were many here who wanted the Paul campaign to start attacking Huck as he got a sudden surge of poll support and all his dirty little secrets starting to come up.

We didn't.

And now Romney has gotten scared and has run an ad about Huckabee's immigration stance and now Huckabee is doing this. They will destroy each other and Paul will be there.

Actually, some of us not only said to stay positive, but also predicted that such a mudslinging battle between two opponents would help Dr. Paul, especially in NH (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=31280&highlight=keough)... :D

JM

[SovereignMN]

Does anyone else think that this Huckabee surge and the subsequent inserting the foot in the mouth may be an "establishment" plan to help out Giuliani?

Giuliani's strategy all along has been to downplay the early states and wait for Florida and Super Tuesday. Romney's strategy has been to get Iowa, NH, SC and Michigan and hope the momentum carries him into Super Tuesday.

With Huckabee's 'surge', this is going to make Romney fight tooth and nail in the early states. The Giuliani shills have been very quiet lately.

[jondisx]

because giuliani is about as electable as a shoe

[bbachtung]

Huck's excuse that he was only asking a question about LDS doctrine is very, very disingenuous. Huck is the one who is always saying how -- with his degree in divinity -- that he is able to understand other religions, including Islam.

[propanes]

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[rodent]

Does anyone else think that this Huckabee surge and the subsequent inserting the foot in the mouth may be an "establishment" plan to help out Giuliani?

Giuliani's strategy all along has been to downplay the early states and wait for Florida and Super Tuesday. Romney's strategy has been to get Iowa, NH, SC and Michigan and hope the momentum carries him into Super Tuesday.

With Huckabee's 'surge', this is going to make Romney fight tooth and nail in the early states. The Giuliani shills have been very quiet lately.

My take is that they are trying to herd the religious right somehow. They can set up a win in Iowa for Huck, have him drop like a rock afterwards. Then Giuliani or Romney can pick him up for VP and they can take all the Christian votes together and built up that faux-fiscal conservative/social conservative alliance that Rove created a while back.

If you look at American politics, there's really three factions: the liberals, the fiscal conservatives, and the social conservatives. The social conservatives occasionally flock to the democrats because they really aren't about small government. These are the people who were Southern Democrats who defected to the Republican party in the 60s after the Democrats ushered in stuff like the Civil Rights Act. Unless Republicans herd these religious people and use their vote, they cannot get in.

Problem is, the republican fake fiscal conservatives are really about corporate welfare. They won't get their corporate welfare without scapegoating minorities, non-Christians, and gays. They'll use the religious right in the process.

Now, the Ron Paul Revolution is truly dangerous. The reason is because it pulls from the liberals, the fiscal conservatives, and actually even some social conservatives. If the Ron Paul revolution takes hold, there's a new alliance that totally shatters the game that people have been playing for a while to manipulate the religious crowd.

Some things in history never change -- Jesus is as much of a tool for political gain now as he was through most of Europe's history.