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enhanced_deficit
02-01-2018, 12:10 AM
With the longest US war getting worse, isn't it time for Dems/critics to sit together with GOP and POTUS to find a solution for way forward instead of undermining current Commander in Chief by questioning his mental fitness (https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/05/politics/garamendi-trump-mental-fitness/index.html)?


The U.S. Is Losing Badly in Afghanistan, but the Trump Administration Is Telling Americans Less

By Tom O'Connor On 1/31/18

The U.S. and allied local security forces have failed to secure most of Afghanistan, according to a recent investigation that came shortly after the Pentagon refused to release unclassified data on the conflict for the first time ever.
Despite waging nearly 17 consecutive years of war and spending up to $1 trillion (http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-afghanistan-plan-definition-insanity-say-gop-and-dem-congress-members-655144), the U.S.-led attempt to defeat the Taliban has left the insurgents openly active in up to 70 percent of Afghanistan, according to a BBC study (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-42863116) published Tuesday. The report also found that a rival ultraconservative Sunni Muslim organization, the Islamic State militant group (ISIS), controlled more territory than ever, further complicating the beleaguered effort to stabilize the country.

What a federal watchdog chief found particularly “troubling” and a “worrying development,” however, was that none of this information could be included in its mandatory quarterly report on the war. John Sopko, head of the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR), said he was instructed by the Department of Defense (DOD) “not to release to the public data on the number of districts, and the population living in them, controlled or influenced by the Afghan government or by the insurgents, or contested by both.”
A letter preceding SIGAR’s report (https://www.sigar.mil/pdf/quarterlyreports/2018-01-30qr.pdf) added, “SIGAR was informed this quarter that DOD has determined that although the most recent numbers are unclassified, they are not releasable to the public.”
A member of the Afghan security forces takes position at the site of a blast and gun fire in Jalalabad, Afghanistan January 24, 2018. The U.S.-backed Afghan government has steadily lost control to insurgents of the Taliban and ISIS in recent years. Parwiz/Reuters

SIGAR said it is the first time the watchdog was blocked from releasing this information, on which it has reported since January 2016, and it was the first time ever “that SIGAR has been specifically instructed not to release information marked ‘unclassified’ to the American taxpayer” since it was created by Congress in 2008 to monitor the already extensive U.S. role in the conflict. SIGAR was deeply critical of the Pentagon and said the public should be especially concerned because trends had historically painted the picture of an increasingly unsuccessful and costly war effort.
The next day, the Pentagon released the statistics, and Navy Captain Thomas Gresback, a spokesman for coalition troops in Afghanistan, told Newsweek (http://www.newsweek.com/pentagon-buries-numbers-isis-taliban-control-afghanistan-795098) in an email, “A human error in labeling occurred” and “It was NOT the intent...to withhold or classify information which was available in prior reports.”
Gresback denied that the figures were censored and said the U.S.-led coalition was in control of 56 percent of the country, the lowest number reported to date. The BBC study Tuesday placed that number even lower, at 30 percent, less than a third of Afghanistan. Gresback said insurgents controlled a record-breaking 14 percent, while the BBC study estimated 4 percent, claiming the vast majority of the country was still disputed.
Both evaluations were released after a week of heightened violence in Afghanistan that saw both the Taliban and ISIS claim attacks that killed a collective of at least 138 people, mostly civilians.


http://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/embed-lg/public/2018/01/31/rts1lfek.jpg A map locates recent attacks in Kabul, Afghanistan, amid a particularly violent week, on January 28, 2017. Reuters
In its latest report, SIGAR also noted that this was the second time in a row the Trump administration had restricted the watchdog from publishing numbers previously made public. In its last quarterly report in October, SIGAR reported historic losses (http://www.newsweek.com/us-report-war-afghanistan-historic-losses-hides-death-toll-made-public-697776) for the U.S.-backed Afghan government, but were unable to include the number of casualties among Afghan troops.
“If they start classifying this stuff now, what are they going to do next month?” Sopko told The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/world/asia/afghanistan-war-redacted-report.html) at the time. “It’s a slippery slope.”

http://www.newsweek.com/us-losing-so-badly-afghanistan-trump-administration-hid-figures-796466



Analysis Trump Caught in Afghan Quagmire Following Recent Taliban Attacks

U.S. president said he will increase U.S. troops there, but offers no diplomatic plan for ending war
Zvi Bar'el
Jan 30, 2018 3:47 AM

The bloody harvest in Kabul, the capital of Afghanistan, has yielded at least 130 people killed over nine days. In the latest attack (https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/taliban-kills-scores-across-afghanistan-in-biggest-terrorist-attack-this-year-1.5458454) on Monday at the entrance to a military academy, at least 12 people were killed. Two days earlier an ambulance laden with explosives blew up near a military checkpoint, killing at least 103 people, and a week before that the Intercontinental Hotel was attacked by a group of armed men who killed at least 18 people, 12 of them foreigners.
Since 2011, when Afghanistan was occupied by the United States and coalition forces, Western estimates are that 150,000 people have been killed there, including more than 2,500 coalition fighters.

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/.premium-trump-caught-in-afghan-quagmire-following-recent-attacks-1.5771249

timosman
02-01-2018, 12:13 AM
Russians couldn't do it and we say it tanked their economy. WTF are we doing?

enhanced_deficit
02-01-2018, 12:24 AM
Russians couldn't do it and we say it tanked their economy. WTF are we doing?


Must you ask such difficult questions?

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timosman
02-01-2018, 12:29 AM
The Afghanis watch "Star Wars" and think they are Jedis.

enhanced_deficit
02-04-2018, 12:44 PM
ICC drama.. here we go again:


International Criminal Court judges consider Afghanistan war crimes inquiry

By Secunder Kermani BBC News, Kabul


2 February 2018


Image caption Claims of human rights abuses have dogged Gen Dostum, the current vice-president, for decades Judges at the International Criminal Court (ICC) are deciding whether to authorise an official war crimes inquiry into events in Afghanistan.
They are due to begin examining written submissions from victims in Afghanistan about whom and what any potential investigation should focus on.

In 2017, ICC prosecutor Fatou Bensouda said there was a "reasonable basis to believe" war crimes had been committed.
Possible perpetrators included the Taliban, CIA and Afghan forces.

Warning: some readers may find some of the details below distressing.

The BBC has learnt that one of the most high-ranking officials to be named in the submissions to the court is Gen Abdul Rashid Dostum. Claims of human rights abuses have dogged the current vice-president of Afghanistan for decades.
He is currently in Turkey in de facto exile after one particularly grim allegation.
In late 2016, Ahmad Eshchi, a political rival of Gen Dostum, said he had been beaten and sodomised on his orders. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-38311174)
"He told his guards, 'Rape him until he bleeds and film it'," Mr Eshchi told the BBC. "They put a Kalashnikov [rifle] into my anus. I was screaming in pain."
Gen Dostum refused to appear in court in Afghanistan. In May 2017 he travelled to Turkey for medical treatment. Some analysts believe the Afghan government pressured him to leave.
Image caption Ahmad Eshchi is losing hope of seeing justice Gen Dostum attempted to return to Afghanistan in July of last year but his plane was refused permission to land.
Because he is still in Turkey, Mr Eshchi believes the ICC needs to step in.
"It's been 14 months and Dostum still hasn't answered any questions about this," he said. "As time goes on I am losing hope that the government here will ever bring him to justice."

Gen Dostum's spokesman has previously denied that Mr Eshchi was detained or sexually assaulted by anyone connected to Dostum.

Bereaved by the Taliban

Others in Afghanistan are hoping the ICC can help hold the insurgent groups in the country to account.
Samara, 32, was a cook at an orphanage in Kabul. She died after being caught in a Taliban suicide bombing in July 2017.
Her daughter, 17-year-old Fatima, told the BBC about the moment she found out: "I heard on the news that there had been a suicide attack. I called my mum's phone but a policeman answered. He said he had found it at the scene of the blast."

Fatima is one of those who have written to the ICC. She does not believe the Afghan authorities will give her family justice.

Guantanamo submissions

Philippe Sands QC is the director of the Centre on International Courts and Tribunals at University College London.
"You have got to catch the Taliban and you need evidence," he says. "Evidence comes in the form of documents, in the form of witness statements and that gathering exercise for an institution without its own police force is incredibly problematic.
"The court has a policy of only going after upper-echelon individuals - they don't want the foot soldiers. So you've got to apprehend those people."

The proposed investigation by the ICC would cover the alleged torture of prisoners who were later transferred to Guantanamo Bay (pictured) The proposed investigation by the ICC would cover events from May 2003 onwards, when Afghanistan signed up to the court. Any alleged crimes committed in the country after that date are eligible to be investigated, even if by foreign nationals.

That means the alleged torture of some prisoners in Bagram detention centre before they were transferred to Guantanamo Bay would also be covered.
The detention centre was originally built and run by the Americans but later handed over to Afghan control.
The charity Reprieve is making submissions to the ICC on behalf of a number of current and former Guantanamo Bay detainees.

In 2002 Congress passed the American Service-Members Protection Act, which allowed the US authorities to "free" US personnel detained for trial in the ICC by "all means necessary".

That makes successful prosecutions of American officials extremely difficult. But the ICC is under pressure to show that it can take on politically sensitive cases. Up until now it has focused on incidents in Africa.


Why only Africans?

UCL's Philippe Sands told the BBC: "On the website of the ICC everyone indicted is African and black or both.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42908396

timosman
02-04-2018, 12:46 PM
Taliban calls for their key witness - Hillary - to testify. :cool:

enhanced_deficit
02-04-2018, 12:48 PM
ICC probably cannot call Hillary or any other Americans. From above BBC report:

In 2002 Congress passed the American Service-Members Protection Act, which allowed the US authorities to "free" US personnel detained for trial in the ICC by "all means necessary".

That makes successful prosecutions of American officials extremely difficult. But the ICC is under pressure to show that it can take on politically sensitive cases. Up until now it has focused on incidents in Africa.

Why only Africans?

UCL's Philippe Sands told the BBC: "On the website of the ICC everyone indicted is African and black or both.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42908396

timosman
02-04-2018, 01:00 PM
ICC probably cannot call Hillary or any other Americans.

Obama and Hillary could offer to testify voluntarily?


UCL's Philippe Sands told the BBC: "On the website of the ICC everyone indicted is African and black or both.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42908396

Is ICC racist?

Raginfridus
02-04-2018, 01:32 PM
Maybe the ICC and a good humiliation is just the shock this country needs.

timosman
02-04-2018, 01:45 PM
Maybe the ICC and a good humiliation is just the shock this country needs.

There is no reason we can not rectify errors made by the previous regime. Ron Paul said once something along these lines.

enhanced_deficit
02-06-2018, 11:47 PM
In related, a troubling statement from Iran:

https://www.voanews.com/a/iran-accuses-us-of-aiding-is-in-afghanistan/4241182.html

Iran Accuses US of Aiding IS in Afghanistan

February 06, 2018


Iran has joined Russia in accusing the United States of aiding Islamic State extremists in Afghanistan, charges Washington vehemently denies.

"After witnessing Daesh and other organized terrorist groups losing their ground in Iraq and Syria, they are now relocating them to Afghanistan," Iranian media quoted the country's top military commander as alleging Tuesday. Daesh is the Arabic acronym for IS.

The chief of staff of the Iranian armed forces, General Mohammad Hossein Baqeri, said continued tensions would provide Americans "with the much desired pretext" to prolong their military presence in the region, he told reporters in Tehran.

"We are witnessing a fresh round of explosions, assassinations and crimes in Afghanistan," the general said, linking the violence to the growing IS influence in the war-torn country.

On Sunday, Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Amir Hatami telephoned his Afghan counterpart, Tariq Shah Bahrami, and warned him Washington is plotting to attempt to "transfer [the] ISIL terrorist group" to Afghanistan. ISIL is another acronym for Islamic State.

https://www.voanews.com/a/iran-accuses-us-of-aiding-is-in-afghanistan/4241182.html





Obama and Hillary could offer to testify voluntarily?


Is ICC racist?

Could be, we won't know for sure till all the facts come out.

nikcers
02-07-2018, 01:22 AM
We have the technology to beam fake news right into your eyballs, the question is should we do it?


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