House Intel votes to make Nunes memo public

[Jan2017]

at 01/29/18 06:22 PM EST
House Intel votes to make Nunes memo public


The House Intelligence Committee on Monday evening voted to make public a GOP-crafted memo alleging what some Republicans say are “shocking” surveillance abuses at the Department of Justice (DOJ).
The move ends weeks of speculation over whether the memo, which was drafted by staff for chairman Devin Nunes (http://thehill.com/people/devin-nunes) (R-Calif.), would be made public.

The document will not be immediately released.

FBI Director Christopher Wray was reportedly allowed to view the document in the committee’s secure spaces over the weekend.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/371280-house-intel-votes-to-make-nunes-memo-public

at 6:35 PM ET, Mon January 29, 2018
House Intel committee votes to release Nunes memo

According to the accompanying video (not Schiff) at 6:35pm
"Rosenstein named."

"President Trump has not seen it."


The House Intelligence Committee voted Monday evening to publicly release a Republican memo
but voted against releasing a memo written by the committee's top Democrat, Rep. Adam Schiff told reporters.

Schiff says Republicans on the committee voted to release the controversial memo by chairman Devin Nunes.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/29/politics/house-intelligence-committee-devin-nunes-memo/index.html

[phill4paul]

The vote was announced to reporters by California Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the committee, who called it a “very sad day, I think, in the history of this committee.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/29/house-intel-votes-to-release-controversial-surveillance-memo-to-public.html

Because transparency is so un-American!

[Swordsmyth]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/29/house-intel-votes-to-release-controversial-surveillance-memo-to-public.html

Because transparency is so un-American!

Democracy dies in darkness.

The Washington Compost

[Swordsmyth]

In an amusing twist, now that transparency appears to be the watchword, the Republican controlled House Intel Committee also plans to release the transcript of the business meeting dealing with releasing the FISA memo.

Hse Intel Cmte plans to release transcript of business mtg dealing with releasing the FISA memo
— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) January 29, 2018 (https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/958127318932828165?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-29/house-intel-committee-votes-make-shocking-fisa-memo-public

[Swordsmyth]

And incidentally, Trump will be delighted to learn that, in addition to blocking the Democrat memo, House Intel Committee member Adam Schiff admitted that the committee was also probing the DOJ and FBI, i.e., the "deep state" itself.

Hse Intel Cmte votes along party lines to release GOP FISA memo. Cmte votes to block Dem memo. Cmte says it is probing DoJ/FBI.
— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) January 29, 2018 (https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/958122278457311232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...sa-memo-public (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-29/house-intel-committee-votes-make-shocking-fisa-memo-public)

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[TER]

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[TER]

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The dominoes continue to fall...

[oyarde]

01/29/18 06:22 PM EST
House Intel votes to make Nunes memo public

The House Intelligence Committee on Monday evening voted to make public a GOP-crafted memo alleging what some Republicans say are “shocking” surveillance abuses at the Department of Justice (DOJ).
The move ends weeks of speculation over whether the memo, which was drafted by staff for chairman Devin Nunes (http://thehill.com/people/devin-nunes) (R-Calif.), would be made public.

The document will not be immediately released.

FBI Director Christopher Wray was reportedly allowed to view the document in the committee’s secure spaces over the weekend.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/371280-house-intel-votes-to-make-nunes-memo-public

6:35 PM ET, Mon January 29, 2018
House Intel committee votes to release Nunes memo

Rosenstein named.

President Trump has not seen it.

The House Intelligence Committee voted Monday evening to publicly release a Republican memo
but voted against releasing a memo written by the committee's top Democrat, Rep. Adam Schiff told reporters.

Schiff says Republicans on the committee voted to release the controversial memo by chairman Devin Nunes.

I wonder what Rosenstein is named for ? He is from Philly and a lawyer ..... . It was my understanding he took the Pres. Sessions suggestion to let Comey go .

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[FSP-Rebel]

The storm is here.

[timosman]

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The dominoes continue to fall...

How about a frigging link? This is not reddit.

958144569169690624

[Jamesiv1]

In 2015 I predicted this would go down just like this. Check the posts.

[Jan2017]

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Schiff had already lost all credibility this week . . .
Sen. Feinstein, Rep. Schiff urged Facebook and Twitter to investigate involvement of Russian bots in pushing "#Release the Memo" campaign:
"If these reports are accurate, we are witnessing an ongoing attack by the Russian government through Kremlin-linked social media actors."

BOOM! Twitter DESTROYS Adam Schiff and Sen. Feinstein: Internal Analysis Finds NO RUSSIAN BOTS Behind #ReleaseTheMemo

[timosman]

In 2015 I predicted this would go down just like this. Check the posts.

I am sure it was Zippy.:cool:

[Danke]

In 2015 I predicted this would go down just like this. Check the posts.

Have you thought about writing a book?

[Danke]

01/29/18 06:22 PM ESTHouse Intel votes to make Nunes memo publicThe House Intelligence Committee on Monday evening voted to make public a GOP-crafted memo alleging what some Republicans say are “shocking” surveillance abuses at the Department of Justice (DOJ).The move ends weeks of speculation over whether the memo, which was drafted by staff for chairman Devin Nunes (http://thehill.com/people/devin-nunes) (R-Calif.), would be made public. The document will not be immediately released.FBI Director Christopher Wray was reportedly allowed to view the document in the committee’s secure spaces over the weekend.http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/371280-house-intel-votes-to-make-nunes-memo-public6:35 PM ET, Mon January 29, 2018House Intel committee votes to release Nunes memoRosenstein named.President Trump has not seen it.The House Intelligence Committee voted Monday evening to publicly release a Republican memo but voted against releasing a memo written by the committee's top Democrat, Rep. Adam Schiff told reporters.Schiff says Republicans on the committee voted to release the controversial memo by chairman Devin Nunes.http://www.ronpaulforums.com/customavatars/thumbs/avatar17293_6.gif

[FSP-Rebel]

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[timosman]

The biggest leak is going to be a lot of this money was spent on RPF and Zippyjuan in particular.;)

[Jan2017]

I wonder what Rosenstein is named for ?

Russia - Uranium One deal . . . could be the "Watergate on steroids"
excerpts . . .

Why Was Obama's Justice Department Silent On Criminal Activity By Russia's Nuclear Agency?

Justice officials involved in the “silent” 2009 to 2015 investigation of Rosatom include
Robert Mueller, James Comey, Rod Rosenstein, and Andrew McCabe –
all intertwined in the ongoing investigation of President Donald Trump’s alleged collusion with Russia.

The failure of this “gang of four” to blow the whistle on Rosatom means they must recuse themselves
from any Russian investigations, Robert Mueller included.

The attempts in Washington to link Trump with Russia may turn out to shine light on much bigger scandals.
It is time to investigate the investigators.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2017/10/25/why-was-obamas-justice-department-silent-on-criminal-activity-by-russias-nuclear-agency/#2716cdf0be17

Not only the Clintons are implicated in a uranium deal with the Russians that compromised national-security interests.

How desperate was the Obama Justice Department to plead the case out?
Here, Rosenstein and Holder will have some explaining to do.

Yet, that is exactly what Rosenstein’s office did, in a plea agreement his prosecutors co-signed with attorneys from the Justice Department’s Fraud Section.
(See in the Hill’s report, the third document embedded at the bottom, titled “Mikerin Plea Deal.”)
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452972/uranium-one-deal-obama-administration-doj-hillary-clinton-racketeering

[oyarde]

Russia - Uranium One deal . . . could be the "Watergate on steroids"
excerpts . . .

Why Was Obama's Justice Department Silent On Criminal Activity By Russia's Nuclear Agency?

Justice officials involved in the “silent” 2009 to 2015 investigation of Rosatom include
Robert Mueller, James Comey, Rod Rosenstein, and Andrew McCabe –
all intertwined in the ongoing investigation of President Donald Trump’s alleged collusion with Russia.

The failure of this “gang of four” to blow the whistle on Rosatom means they must recuse themselves
from any Russian investigations, Robert Mueller included.

The attempts in Washington to link Trump with Russia may turn out to shine light on much bigger scandals.
It is time to investigate the investigators.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2017/10/25/why-was-obamas-justice-department-silent-on-criminal-activity-by-russias-nuclear-agency/#2716cdf0be17

Not only the Clintons are implicated in a uranium deal with the Russians that compromised national-security interests.

How desperate was the Obama Justice Department to plead the case out?
Here, Rosenstein and Holder will have some explaining to do.

Yet, that is exactly what Rosenstein’s office did, in a plea agreement his prosecutors co-signed with attorneys from the Justice Department’s Fraud Section.
(See in the Hill’s report, the third document embedded at the bottom, titled “Mikerin Plea Deal.”)
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452972/uranium-one-deal-obama-administration-doj-hillary-clinton-racketeering


If that is the case . Hard to believe everything did not go through Holder . Absolutely nothing from Holder would surprise me .

[TER]

Schiff had already lost all credibility this week . . .
Sen. Feinstein, Rep. Schiff urged Facebook and Twitter to investigate involvement of Russian bots in pushing "#Release the Memo" campaign:
"If these reports are accurate, we are witnessing an ongoing attack by the Russian government through Kremlin-linked social media actors."

BOOM! Twitter DESTROYS Adam Schiff and Sen. Feinstein: Internal Analysis Finds NO RUSSIAN BOTS Behind #ReleaseTheMemo

Remember this executive order: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

This is one reason why there has been an unprecedented surge of CEOs and heads of companies stepping down (coincidentally during a time of record market growth).

Jack Dorsey from Twitter will be stepping down soon enough... twitter has been storing dm’s, including sexually explicit ones, as recently revealed by Project Veritas. Twitter may be the largest storer of child p0rn. Not surprising considering Prince Alwaleed is a known pedophile and holds a large share of twitter (or rather, used to hold a large share in Twitter).

These are what are alleged.


January, btw, has been declared by Trump as Human Trafficking awareness month.

[Brian4Liberty]

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The dominoes continue to fall...

Anyone with two brain cells would run away from that job as fast as possible. It's a hot potato. No one wants to be holding that bomb when the investigations get into full swing.

[Danke]

Remember this executive order: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/This is one reason why there has been an unprecedented surge of CEOs and heads of companies stepping down (coincidentally during a time of record market growth).Jack Dorsey from Twitter will be stepping down soon enough... twitter has been storing dm’s, including sexually explicit ones, as recently revealed by Project Veritas. Twitter may be the largest storer of child p0rn. Not surprising considering Prince Alwaleed is a known pedophile and holds a large share of twitter (or rather, used to hold a large share in Twitter).These are what are alleged.January, btw, has been declared by Trump as Human Trafficking awareness month.http://www.ronpaulforums.com/customavatars/thumbs/avatar17293_6.gif

[Origanalist]

Pelosi is crapping her pants.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/pelosi-clashes-with-chris-cuomo-on-nunes-memo-you-really-dont-know-what-youre-talking-about/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Brian4Liberty]

FBI Director Christopher Wray was reportedly allowed to view the document in the committee’s secure spaces over the weekend.


Did he take a picture of it, or sneak a copy out in his underwear?

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[goldenequity]

McCabe Threatens to “Torch the FBI” After Forced Resignation; FBI Insider Poised to Spill All The Beans
https://truepundit.com/mccabe-threatens-torch-fbi-forced-resignation-fbi-insider-poised-spill-beans/

FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe in the days leading up to his forced resignation Monday threatened to “torch” the FBI
if he was expelled from his job without full retirement benefits, according to sources with direct knowledge of private conversations McCabe shared with agents.

“He was unglued,” one FBI source said.

“Someone should keep an eye on him.”

But McCabe may also have been reacting, in part, to another growing problem beyond the corruption scandals enveloping McCabe’s leadership at the embattled FBI.

An FBI insider with Intel inside the embattled Bureau who has vigilantly worked to uncover systemic corruption inside the FBI,
is rumored to be penning a tell-all book that promises to blow the roof off the inner-workings of the FBI’s controversial 7th-Floor.

This could spell trouble for more than McCabe.

This story is Developing.

===========

New Investigation

Republicans have ‘opened an investigation of the FBI and the Department of Justice’
https://truepundit.com/republicans-opened-investigation-fbi-department-justice-house-intel-dem-video/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfTCpYpleaw

start to 0:42... the rest is 'outrage' :)






sigh... I have to post this (somebody STOP meh!!!)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm3dMMeNJF4

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[enhanced_deficit]

Looks like memogate is really cathing on. If this exposed corruption of widely respected agencies, risk is that it could undermine public trust in very agencies and national heroes who are trusted with protecting nation and investigating tragedies like 9/11 that led to massive Iraq war.

But if this is confirmed, it will be huge and good news for Trump-Kushner team and could stop the ongoing Russiagate fishing expedtion that has lately become Flynn-Israel gate (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518365-Fraud-Upon-the-FISA-Court-Confirmed&p=6578277&viewfull=1#post6578277) and alleged Trump SIL Jared Kushner money laundering gate (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518365-Fraud-Upon-the-FISA-Court-Confirmed&p=6578277&viewfull=1#post6578277) following Steve Bannon "memos" published in the very controversial book Fire and Fury that caught attention of Mueller.

[Brian4Liberty]

The biggest leak is going to be a lot of this money was spent on RPF and Zippyjuan in particular.;)

:rolleyes:

[TER]

Of course, can’t verify this, but interesting. Rumor has it word about Seth Rich will be coming out soon...

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[Danke]

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[Brian4Liberty]

Of course, can’t verify this, but interesting. Rumor has it word about Seth Rich will be coming out soon...

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At this point, it's being a bit over-hyped.

[dannno]

Pelosi is crapping her pants.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/pelosi-clashes-with-chris-cuomo-on-nunes-memo-you-really-dont-know-what-youre-talking-about/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Lol...


They made up a memo that isn't even true..

No, no, no... YOU guys made up a dossier that wasn't true, that's the story.. Leftists always accusing the right of what they are actually doing..

[TER]

At this point, it's being a bit over-hyped.

What is?

[TER]

The fact that the DOJ and the FBI were in cahoots in accepting a known fake dossier so that they can obtain a FISA warrant and try to overthrow the duly elected leader of the country is something that should be overhyped.

The fact that Seth Rich may still find justice for being murdered for leaking to WL the corruption in the DNC is something that should be overhyped. Indeed, it was this leak which the DNC blamed on the Russians as diversion when the leaders knew who really did it.

The fact that this country was on the verge of falling into ruin and the republic was heading towards oblivion because of corrupt swamp creatures but is now on the verge of purging these bad actors and restoring the rule of law is something that should be overhyped.

With that, Good Night!

[timosman]

I leave this right here

Do they like us?:eek:

[timosman]

Zippy group will be finally pushed out and will have to disclose all of their sock puppets. Zippy and his "pals" get 12 months vacation and can come back with one user.

[TheCount]

Zippy group will be finally pushed out and will have to disclose all of their sock puppets. Zippy and his "pals" get 12 months vacation and can come back with one user.
Will you keep this snippy quip sock account or will you maintain one of the debate-oriented sock accounts?

I think this one has potential if you could improve the quality of the jokes.

[enhanced_deficit]

Just when GOP was ready to ditch Russiagate, this gem from Trump appointed leader:

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQJD8_GQACLlR9xeLR1zUgj7yGyv2kPX kLHFNaNr8kRqDdt4TSGpU9uL2RRpARhu0DhUATP6KlrCg (http://time.com/5124313/cia-mike-pompeo-russia-midterm-elections/)

CIA Director Mike Pompeo Says He 'Fully Expects' Russia Will Try to Interfere in US Midterms (http://time.com/5124313/cia-mike-pompeo-russia-midterm-elections/)
TIME 1h ago

[timosman]

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No way this is real.:cool:

[timosman]

Will you keep this snippy quip sock account or will you maintain one of the debate-oriented sock accounts?

I think this one has potential if you could improve the quality of the jokes.

That's quite a complement, sir!:cool:

[seapilot]

Schiff wanted the House Intel Committee to publicly release his memo, but did not allow the committee to read it before they voted on it. They voted not to release it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=83&v=iemRF4G8p2E

[timosman]

Schiff wanted the House Intel Committee to publicly release his memo, but did not allow the committee to read it before they voted on it. They voted not to release it.

This is embarrassing. What Schiff is trying to accomplish? Release the memo and all the related materials. If they think their charade works, be nice to them. :cool:

[Swordsmyth]

Schiff wanted the House Intel Committee to publicly release his memo, but did not allow the committee to read it before they voted on it. They voted not to release it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=83&v=iemRF4G8p2E

We have to publish the memo to see what's in it.

[Danke]

Schiff wanted the House Intel Committee to publicly release his memo, but did not allow the committee to read it before they voted on it. They voted not to release it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=83&v=iemRF4G8p2E


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[timosman]

Anyone with two brain cells would run away from that job as fast as possible. It's a hot potato. No one wants to be holding that bomb when the investigations get into full swing.

I wouldn't mind. I would make sure the blast gets everywhere. :cool:

[timosman]

We have to publish the memo to see what's in it.

How idiotic was that? Why nobody objected? :cool:

[Anti Federalist]

There was no crime here.

Just "missteps".

The WaPo says so.

Republicans vote to release memo alleging FBI missteps in surveillance of Trump campaign operative

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/republicans-vote-to-release-memo-alleging-fbi-missteps-while-surveilling-trump-campaign-operative/2018/01/29/750fb150-0535-11e8-b48c-b07fea957bd5_story.html?utm_term=.15e25cb11257

[Anti Federalist]

Reading the comments on the article I posted above, makes me self evaluate a little, to make sure I'm not falling into an echo chamber trap.

They read like mirror images of comments at say, Breitbart or Fox.

Clearly both can't be right, one has to wrong.

[timosman]

Reading the comments on the article I posted above, makes me self evaluate a little, to make sure I'm not falling into an echo chamber trap.

They read like mirror images of comments at say, Breitbart or Fox.

Clearly both can't be right, one has to wrong.

Try looking for the more reasonably sounding ones. :cool:

[specsaregood]

Reading the comments on the article I posted above, makes me self evaluate a little, to make sure I'm not falling into an echo chamber trap.

They read like mirror images of comments at say, Breitbart or Fox.

Clearly both can't be right, one has to wrong.

Its all gonna be much ado about nothing. How do I know? How many of the members of the committee that voted to release the memo, also voted to renew FISA? There is your answer. If there was real abuse that they gave a shit about, they wouldn't have done that.

[timosman]

Its all gonna be much ado about nothing. How do I know? How many of the members of the committee that voted to release the memo, also voted to renew FISA? There is your answer. If there was real abuse that they gave a shit about, they wouldn't have done that.

This at least should give you the much desired confidence in government's ability to put a lid on things when needed. I know I will sleep well knowing the right people run the show. :cool:

[Jan2017]

FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe in the days leading up to his forced resignation Monday threatened to “torch” the FBI
if he was expelled from his job without full retirement benefits, according to sources with direct knowledge of private conversations McCabe shared with agents.

“He was unglued,” one FBI source said.

“Someone should keep an eye on him.”


Losing their jobs . . . Comey, his Chief of Staff Rybicki, McCabe . . . is not gonna be enough.

btw, does Rand still have that flamethrower he used on the tax code regulations in 2015 ?
He can offer it to McCabe now as a retirement gift in lieu of the pension that has been flushed down the drain.

[Jan2017]

"Its all gonna be much ado about nothing. How do I know? How many of the members of the committee that voted to release the memo, also voted to renew FISA? There is your answer. If there was real abuse that they gave a shit about, they wouldn't have done that."


This at least should give you the much desired confidence in government's ability to put a lid on things when needed. I know I will sleep well knowing the right people run the show. :cool:

At least the Steele/DNC/Clinton generated dossier used for the FISA surveillance warrant has opened the can of worms
of the 2009-2015 sham Uranium One investigation run/overseen by the likes of Rosenstein, McCabe, Comey, and ultimately Holder.

CNN has already quickly made Schiff the big news maker of Monday's vote - pathetic.

Trump should take the full five days to finalize the release to sweat more of them all out, let them make the vacation plans to Belize.
and I'd recommend he start out his State of the Union as Gerald Ford did post-Watergate . . . "The State of the Union is "bad" !

[shakey1]

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[timosman]

https://i.imgur.com/78nQifp.gif

Congress: Can we have a vote first?
Skeletons: Sure! We have the majority anyway.:cool:

[Brian4Liberty]

What is?

The Nunes memo, what it contains and what will result.

[dannno]

Reading the comments on the article I posted above, makes me self evaluate a little, to make sure I'm not falling into an echo chamber trap.

They read like mirror images of comments at say, Breitbart or Fox.

Clearly both can't be right, one has to wrong.

Well the Nancy Pelosi interview was a bit telling - she was switching back between saying that the memo didn't have anything incriminating to the memo "isn't even true"... well wait a minute, WHAT isn't true?? Is she saying it isn't incriminating because it isn't true, or what is she saying exactly?? Then she says that it should go through the intelligence community and only be released with their authorization..but even Tapper was asking questions like, "but they are saying the memo incriminates these intelligence agencies, so why would they want it to be released?"

See my post here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518885-House-Intel-votes-to-make-Nunes-memo-public&p=6581153&viewfull=1#post6581153

[Jamesiv1]

"Its all gonna be much ado about nothing. How do I know? How many of the members of the committee that voted to release the memo, also voted to renew FISA? There is your answer. If there was real abuse that they gave a shit about, they wouldn't have done that."

At least the Steele/DNC/Clinton generated dossier used for the FISA surveillance warrant has opened the can of worms
of the 2009-2015 sham Uranium One investigation run/overseen by the likes of Rosenstein, McCabe, Comey, and ultimately Holder.

CNN has already quickly made Schiff the big news maker of Monday's vote - pathetic.

Trump should take the full five days to finalize the release to sweat more of them all out, let them make the vacation plans to Belize.
and I'd recommend he start out his State of the Union as Gerald Ford did post-Watergate . . . "The State of the Union is "bad" !
I wonder if Trump's plan all along has been not to throw them in jail, but just get them the hell out of running the government. Then, when 98% removed from the seats of power, we can start MAGA.

[Brian4Liberty]

The Democrat and leftist mainstream media is hilarious over the release of this memo. You have never heard them so concerned about national security and the independence and integrity of the FBI. Today's talking points:

- The memo is lies! (The FBI even says so, and they are like totally official and the most trustworthy).
- The security of the nation and the world is at great risk by this memo (it might be the end of the world, and Trump doesn't care).

[pcosmar]

The Democrat and leftist mainstream media is hilarious over the release of this memo. You have never heard them so concerned about national security and the independence and integrity of the FBI. Today's talking points:

- The memo is lies! (The FBI even says so, and they are like totally official and the most trustworthy).
- The security of the nation and the world is at great risk by this memo (it might be the end of the world, and Trump doesn't care).

It may be the end of some peoples worlds.

[timosman]

I wonder if Trump's plan all along has been not to throw them in jail, but just get them the hell out of running the government. Then, when 98% removed from the seats of power, we can start MAGA.

You don't need to replace 98% of the government workers. Most of them have no spine and push the deep state agenda only because there are no better options or even out of fear. The fish rots from the head.

[seapilot]

The Democrat and leftist mainstream media is hilarious over the release of this memo. You have never heard them so concerned about national security and the independence and integrity of the FBI. Today's talking points:

- The memo is lies! (The FBI even says so, and they are like totally official and the most trustworthy).
- The security of the nation and the world is at great risk by this memo (it might be the end of the world, and Trump doesn't care).

Interesting there was news Monday that the FBI counterintelligence said there was nothing in it that was inaccurate after they looked over it. Now Trump said he will release it soon the head of the FBI said it has falsehoods using the democrats approved talking points. At first thought the memo was all hype, now its looking like it might actually have some truth in it.

[shakey1]

The Democrat and leftist mainstream media is hilarious over the release of this memo. You have never heard them so concerned about national security and the independence and integrity of the FBI. Today's talking points:

- The memo is lies! (The FBI even says so, and they are like totally official and the most trustworthy).
- The security of the nation and the world is at great risk by this memo (it might be the end of the world, and Trump doesn't care).

... even if they don't know what's in it... or do they?

http://www.softpanorama.org/Skeptics/Political_skeptic/Neocons/Hillary/Images/dnc_email_leaks.png

[kpitcher]

Reading the comments on the article I posted above, makes me self evaluate a little, to make sure I'm not falling into an echo chamber trap.

They read like mirror images of comments at say, Breitbart or Fox.

Clearly both can't be right, one has to wrong.

We're in a post fact work. They can both be correct with the properly applied spin.

[Jan2017]

at 12:33pm ET January 31, 2018
Trump says he will '100%' release Nunes memo

President Trump's Chief of Staff said on Wednesday the White House would soon allow for the release
of a highly controversial Republican memo alleging the FBI abused its surveillance tools.

John Kelly, speaking on a Fox News radio program, said Trump and his team were reviewing the document
produced by Rep. Devin Nunes, R-California, and would open it to the public shortly.

"The memo came over, we've got our folks, our national security lawyers in the White House that work for me and the President, slicing and dicing it, looking at it so we know what it means and what it understands,"

"It'll be released here pretty quick, I think. And the whole world can see it," Kelly said, adding that he'd viewed the memo himself.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/politics/white-house-devin-nunes-memo/index.html

[timosman]

We're in a post fact work. They can both be correct with the properly applied spin.

Postmodern neo-marxism - http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518553-Postmodernism-and-Cultural-Marxism-Jordan-B-Peterson

[Brian4Liberty]

Interesting there was news Monday that the FBI counterintelligence said there was nothing in it that was inaccurate after they looked over it. Now Trump said he will release it soon the head of the FBI said it has falsehoods using the democrats approved talking points. At first thought the memo was all hype, now its looking like it might actually have some truth in it.

It's amazing. They are tying themselves in knots trying to find an escape.

[Valli6]

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/31/rep-massie-democrat-memo-discloses-sources-and-methods-that-cant-be-released/

Rep. Massie: Democrat Memo ‘Discloses Sources And Methods That Can’t Be Released’
JULIA NISTA - Associate Editor 2:39 PM 01/31/2018

Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie told The Daily Caller Wednesday the Democratic House Intelligence memo will remain concealed because it “discloses sources and methods that can’t be released.”

“They’ve already reciprocated with their own memo, which I’ve already read today, and it’s talking past the Republicans, it makes statements that are probably true, but doesn’t really dispute the statements in the Republican memo, and I don’t think the Democrat memo is going to get released,” Massie told TheDC.

“The reason why it’s not going to get released is the Democrat memo is about three times longer than the Republican one and theirs discloses sources and methods that can’t be released,” the Republican continued...

more: http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/31/rep-massie-democrat-memo-discloses-sources-and-methods-that-cant-be-released/

[TER]

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/f4e1f5a6561ba8c756c8acb4c39d8087a87e4fc1122c32fc60 af95379f6a833a.png

[Swordsmyth]

A Republican senator said Wednesday morning that the controversial Nunes memo alleging misconduct by FBI and Justice Department officials should not be released to the public in its current form, calling on his fellow members of Congress to put aside partisanship and act responsibly.

"We can't let the politics of the moment cloud our judgment," Louisiana Senator John Kennedy (https://twitter.com/i/web/status/958683835859963906)told (https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/958683835859963906) CNN's Chris Cuomo (https://twitter.com/i/web/status/958683835859963906) on New Day. "If there's classified information in that memo, it shouldn't be released."

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/nunes-memo-shouldn-t-released-155124924.html

NEVER TRUST A KENNEDY.

[Valli6]

From THE ONION https://politics.theonion.com/fbi-warns-republican-memo-could-undermine-faith-in-mass-1822639681


FBI Warns Republican Memo Could Undermine Faith In Massive, Unaccountable Government Secret Agencies
Today 2:42pm

WASHINGTON—Stressing that such an action would be highly reckless, FBI Director Christopher Wray warned Thursday that releasing the “Nunes Memo” could potentially undermine faith in the massive, unaccountable government secret agencies of the United States. “Making this memo public will almost certainly impede our ability to conduct clandestine activities operating outside any legal or judicial system on an international scale,” said Wray, noting that it was essential that mutual trust exist between the American people and the vast, mysterious cabal given free rein to use any tactics necessary to conduct surveillance on U.S. citizens or subvert religious and political groups. “If we take away the people’s faith in this shadowy monolith exempt from any consequences, all that’s left is an extensive network of rogue, unelected intelligence officers carrying out extrajudicial missions for a variety of subjective, and occasionally personal, reasons.” At press time, Wray confirmed the massive, unaccountable government secret agencies were unaware of any wrongdoing for violating constitutional rights.

https://politics.theonion.com/fbi-warns-republican-memo-could-undermine-faith-in-mass-1822639681
:D

[Jan2017]

Looks like it will be read into the Congressional Record on Friday . . .
Next regular session of the House of Representatives is for Monday, February 5 but . . .
https://pressgallery.house.gov/
The House will meet at 4:30 pm in a pro forma session.

Friday, February 2, 2018 - 4:30pm
House Floor

https://s26.postimg.org/3p6zsfcix/hillary_uraniumone.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Schifference]

4:30 on Friday is a good time to have second thoughts and delay until Monday which then turns into eternity.

[Jan2017]

4:30 on Friday is a good time to have second thoughts and delay until Monday which then turns into eternity.
https://www.thoughtco.com/pro-forma-sessions-in-congress-3322325
Representatives (or Senators in the Senate) would not be required to be present for pro forma sessions of Congress . . .
many are out of DC now ?
They last only a few minutes typically.
so, who scheduled the Friday 02/02/2018 pro forma session to read four pages into the Congressional Record ?

It was scheduled late on Monday . . .
House Floor Activities
Legislative Day of January 30, 2018
Last Floor Action:
10:39:32 P.M. - The House adjourned pursuant to a previous special order. The next meeting is scheduled for 4:30 p.m. on February 2, 2018.

[Swordsmyth]

Two senior FBI officials who reviewed the four-page FISA abuse memo from the House Intelligence Committee (https://conservativedailypost.com/tag/House-Intelligence-Committee/) said they “could not point to any factual inaccuracies.”
After FBI Director Christopher Wray (https://conservativedailypost.com/tag/Christopher-Wray/) read the memo Sunday in private on Capitol Hill, the two sources told Fox News that the documents didn’t reveal any information that had not been corroborated.

More at: https://conservativedailypost.com/senior-fbi-officials-review-memo-deliver-bad-news-for-dems/

[milgram]

Some people have already pointed this out, but the devious Intel Committee is not getting nearly enough criticism. An editorial from Judge Napolitano:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/02/01/judge-andrew-napolitano-if-gop-memo-is-as-advertised-ll-see-deep-state-at-its-most-frightening.html


I have argued for a few weeks now that House Intelligence Committee members have committed misconduct in office by concealing evidence of spying abuses by the National Security Agency and the FBI. They did this by sitting on a four-page memo that summarizes the abuse of raw intelligence data while Congress was debating a massive expansion of FISA.

Ignorant of the hot potato on which the House Intelligence Committee had been sitting, Congress recently passed and President Donald Trump signed a vast expansion of spying authorities -- an expansion that authorizes legislatively the domestic spying that judges were authorizing on everyone in the U.S. without individual suspicion of wrongdoing or probable cause of crime; an expansion that passed in the Senate with no votes to spare; an expansion that evades and avoids the Fourth Amendment; an expansion that the president signed into law the day before we all learned of the House Intelligence Committee memo.

The FISA expansion would never have passed the Senate had the House Intelligence Committee memo and the data on which it is based come to light seven days sooner than it did. Why should 22 members of a House committee keep their 500-plus congressional colleagues in the dark about domestic spying abuses while those colleagues were debating the very subject matter of domestic spying and voting to expand the power of those who have abused it?

[Swordsmyth]

Some people have already pointed this out, but the devious Intel Committee is not getting nearly enough criticism. An editorial from Judge Napolitano:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/02/01/judge-andrew-napolitano-if-gop-memo-is-as-advertised-ll-see-deep-state-at-its-most-frightening.html

What Congress passed they can repeal, if there isn't a repeal bill it means that they would have passed it anyway.

[milgram]

What Congress passed they can repeal, if there isn't a repeal bill it means that they would have passed it anyway.

Completely ridiculous. If the Senate changes their mind but not the House, that's not a repeal. But it wouldn't have passed anyway.

[Swordsmyth]

Completely ridiculous. If the Senate changes their mind but not the House, that's not a repeal. But it wouldn't have passed anyway.

I said if there wasn't a bill, if there is a bill but one house doesn't pass it you are correct.

I predict there won't be a bill and that they would have passed it anyway.

[Brian4Liberty]

If Trump is really a master 36d chess player, he is letting this take a long time and getting a lot of input, especially from people at the DOJ and FBI. It would be revealing...

[Brian4Liberty]

What Congress passed they can repeal, if there isn't a repeal bill it means that they would have passed it anyway.

There won't be a repeal.

[specsaregood]

Completely ridiculous. If the Senate changes their mind but not the House, that's not a repeal. But it wouldn't have passed anyway.

LOL, completely ridiculous is the thought that the bill wouldn't have passed if the memo had been released first. I think you greatly underestimate the amount of dirt the intelligence agencies have on our elected officials.

Besides that, just because it was abused by others doesn't mean they don't want the power to be able to abuse it themselves.

[Valli6]

Fox news reporting "first excerpts of Nunes memo released" (to media?)

...used dossier... was based on false information
...used media
...DOJ used media reporting to give credibility to dossier - "circular reporting" *
... British spy hated Trump, desperate to keep him from being president
...surveillance would not have been approved without dossier
...GPS and Steele were briefing media on dossier

Still calling it "about to be released".


* I want an investigation of the DOJ/media collusion during '08 and '12 elections! :mad:



House Intelligence memo released: What it says
by Byron York | Feb 2, 2018, 11:48 AM

The House Intelligence Committee has released its controversial memo outlining alleged abuses of secret surveillance by the FBI and Justice Department in the Trump-Russia investigation. Here are some key points:

* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the initial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.

* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.

MORE
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-intel-memo-released-what-it-says/article/2647937