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goldenequity
01-29-2018, 06:15 AM
White House Is Planning To Nationalize 5G Network
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-28/white-house-planning-nationalize-5g

In a stunning - if accurate - report published Sunday night, Axios claims that White House national security officials are considering an unprecedented federal takeover of a portion of the nation’s mobile spectrum/network to protect against Chinese attacks, in what may well be a pre-emptive shot, hinting at upcoming trade wars between the two superpowers.

Axios got its hands on PowerPoint deck and a memo, both of which were purportedly produced by a senior National Security Council official, which were presented to other senior officials at other agencies during a recent meeting. The documents argue that America needs a centralized nationwide 5G network within three years. There'll be a fierce debate inside the Trump administration, and an outcry from the industry over the next 6-8 months over how such a network is going to be built and paid for.

The U.S. government pays for and builds the single network — which would be an unprecedented nationalization of a historically private infrastructure....

a single, centralized network is what is needed to protect against cyberattacks from the Chinese or other foreign powers.

The source said the internal White House debate will be over whether the U.S. government owns and builds the network or whether the carriers bind together in a consortium to build the network, an idea that would require them to put aside their business models to serve the country's greater good.

.....would lead to federal control of a part of the economy that today is largely controlled by private wireless providers;

In the memo, the Trump administration likens it to "the 21st century equivalent of the Eisenhower National Highway System" and says it would create a “new paradigm” for the wireless industry by the end of Trump's current term.

Aside from its various other staggering implications, 5G nationalization would still leave many other elements of the market free to private competition.

According to the presentation, the US must build superfast 5G wireless technology quickly because “China has achieved a dominant position in the manufacture and operation of network infrastructure,” and “China is the dominant malicious actor in the Information Domain.”

According to the leaked memo, the best way for the government to achieve its goal, is to build a network itself. It would then rent access to carriers like AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile.

The memo argues that a strong 5G network is needed in order to create a secure pathway for emerging technologies like self-driving cars and virtual reality.

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Not sure w/o more study... but I think this would (finally) mean installing a nationwide network of fiber optic lines...
something nations like S.Korea have had for more than a decade...
last I studied it we ARE behind.... way behind cuz the 'common carriers' wouldn't install to rural areas aka expense vs 'gain'.

This is why Danke is still on dial up.

Root
01-29-2018, 06:21 AM
MAGA. All Your 5G belong to US

goldenequity
01-29-2018, 11:14 AM
Proposal For Nationalized 5G Network Triggers Blowback From Regulators,(pay) Industry(play) :)
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-29/proposal-nationalized-5g-network-triggers-blowback-regulators-industry

alarm bells range:
those who fear greater surveillance
those who see encroachment on free enterprise
or government control of key communications networks could threaten free speech

Both the FCC and CTIA issued statements this morning opposing the idea.
(I'm sure they did..)

“The wireless industry agrees that winning the race to 5G is a national priority. The government should pursue the free marketcrony/racketeering/uncompetative policies that enabled the U.S. wireless industry to win the race to 4G.”
- CTIA president and CEO Meredith Attwell Baker via statement

"I oppose any proposal for the federal government to build and operate a nationwide 5G network."

"The main lesson to draw from the wireless sector’s development over the past three decades-including American leadership in 4G-is that the marketcabal, not government, is best positioned to drive innovation and investment."

"Any federal effort to construct a nationalized 5G network would be a costly and counterproductive distraction from the policies handouts we need to help the United States win the 5G future"
- FCC chairman Ajit Pai

(twitter hahaha)
Twitter VP Colin Crowell noted that "[n]ationalization of a key resource in the nation's wireless infrastructure would be a dramatic departure from policies predicated on the free market driving innovation, competition, and consumer benefits."




from all the (suddenly) spewed 'free market rhetoric' you'd think this cabal of monopolistic dynasties
now 'see the light'.... hahaha.

goldenequity
01-29-2018, 12:11 PM
Goldenequity goes nutz... ;)

1. Let the Cabal run the antiquated 4G network.
2. Let Trump build the 5G super highway 'under budget' (that should have been built 2 decades ago)
3. Then, 'New Rules' = LOTS of new market players in every State licensed to operate/maintain the 'National' super highway.
4. Better than what we have now.

sure. It's not a free market 'solution'.
I'm not falling for the crap anymore that masquerades as 'free market'.
Let the 'King' build it. He just might pull it off.
and
They're going to surveil the population no matter what... 4G/5G, 'nationalized'/'private'... it hardly makes any practical difference.
They will always find a way. We just have to bust them on it and stay vigilant on 'abuse'. Nothing changes.

nikcers
01-29-2018, 01:20 PM
This thread is the most tinfoil hat worthy of all time. I for one welcome our new 5g overlords.

Zippyjuan
01-29-2018, 01:40 PM
Backpedaling. FCC Chairman opposed.

https://www.recode.net/2018/1/29/16945452/donald-trump-5g-wireless-network-national-security-council-memo


The Trump Administration said it has no plans to build a 5G wireless network

The Trump administration labored to clarify on Monday that it currently has no plans to build its own ultra-fast 5G wireless network, despite publication of a memo that suggested the idea was under consideration.

At issue is a proposal put forth by an unnamed official at the National Security Council, a White House-based body that advises the president on critical U.S. and foreign policy matters. The document, first reported by Axios last night, called for the U.S. government to effectively nationalize a portion of the telecom sector — a radical departure from current policy — in a bid to combat Chinese influence.

As multiple White House officials confirmed to Recode on Sunday, the document as published is dated. They also stressed it had merely been floated by a staff member, not a reflection of some imminent, major policy announcement — and probably might never be.

For one thing, it’s the Federal Communications Commission that serves as the government’s steward of the wireless airwaves that power 5G and myriad other uses for smartphones, tablets and similar mobile devices. And the chairman of that independent agency, Ajit Pai, said Monday that he vehemently opposed the idea of nationalizing 5G.

“I oppose any proposal for the federal government to build and operate a nationwide 5G network,” he said in a statement. “The main lesson to draw from the wireless sector’s development over the past three decades — including American leadership in 4G — is that the market, not government, is best positioned to drive innovation and investment.”

Instead, Pai said the U.S. government should make wireless airwaves, known as spectrum, more available for commercial carriers like AT&T and Verizon to deploy 5G networks. “Any federal effort to construct a nationalized 5G network would be a costly and counterproductive distraction from the policies we need to help the United States win the 5G future,” he said.

Otherwise, the NSC is only one component of a much larger decision-making process on the part of the federal government to set broadband policy. Its say is not final on these matters — and its memo does not appear to have gained traction with other tech-focused arms of the White House, according to multiple sources within the Trump administration.

A spokesman for the NSC, meanwhile, did not respond to an email seeking comment Monday.

Nevertheless, the unearthed memo still reflects the degree to which President Donald Trump and some of his closest aides fear the technological and political might of their Chinese counterparts. For years, Republicans in the nation’s capital have fretted over the rise of handset makers like Huawei, for example, amid concerns that the company and its peers are snooping on Americans on behalf of Beijing. Huawei’s deal with AT&T to sell its phones through the carrier had fallen through earlier this month. The reason hasn’t been made clear.

kcchiefs6465
01-29-2018, 01:47 PM
Goldenequity goes nutz... ;)

1. Let the Cabal run the antiquated 4G network.
2. Let Trump build the 5G super highway 'under budget' (that should have been built 2 decades ago)
3. Then, 'New Rules' = LOTS of new market players in every State licensed to operate/maintain the 'National' super highway.
4. Better than what we have now.

sure. It's not a free market 'solution'.
I'm not falling for the crap anymore that masquerades as 'free market'.
Let the 'King' build it. He just might pull it off.
and
They're going to surveil the population no matter what... 4G/5G, 'nationalized'/'private'... it hardly makes any practical difference.
They will always find a way. We just have to bust them on it and stay vigilant on 'abuse'. Nothing changes.
I cannot imagine a single issue with this.

If the king were so benevolent, couldn't he order off his agents?

Or are we going to act like society's bane isn't a parasitical, counterproductive caste entrenched in America's asshole?

1 in 9 employed by the government and here we are going to modernize and promote industry not by getting rid of these mostly useless and overpaid whores but rather by nationalizing the internet.

In other words, Paul Krugman might have to write a positive essay on Trump. Such a kingly coalition of knaves and slaves.

Swordsmyth
01-29-2018, 03:06 PM
If private competition is still allowed then this would be appropriate for the post office to build and run.

The big question is "can we afford it?".

Until this is confirmed as more than just another rumor I consider it just another distraction.

Swordsmyth
02-06-2018, 12:05 AM
Air Force general behind government 5G memo leaves White Househttps://finance.yahoo.com/news/air-force-general-behind-government-192400108.html