Trump Demands Memo to be Released; Overrules Sessions [Archive]

AuH20

01-28-2018, 11:25 AM

Good cop, bad cop is my fav game theory routine. Makes me feel I have a chance to win :rolleyes:

Wake up AuH2O, u are smarter than this.

Trump is reacting to this as a defiant individual as opposed to some mythical savior. That's what is transpiring as the CIA/FBI side of the Deep State has completely overplayed their hand. This was the very hope from the beginning. Trump's gigantic ego was large enough to backfire in the face of the many controllers. Once Trump was alerted to the clear and present danger by NSA's Mike Rogers, the game was set afoot. CIA vs. NSA & Military intelligence.

Trump likely made a deal (as Bannon alluded to) with the GOP establishment to become POTUS. Look at all the establishment bad actors: Haley, Sessions, Pence, Rosenstein, Wray. But as the shocking intelligence has trickled out, this deal is slowly evaporating. They should have left Trump alone if they had any brains. Threatening the President's life as well as the welfare of his family wasn't wise. Trump was never going to send Obama or Clinton to jail, but they had to keep pushing with the blatant falsehoods.

AuH20

01-28-2018, 11:38 AM

TheCount

01-28-2018, 11:38 AM

Feels like every other day Sessions is either part of the deep state or part of the grand defense against it based on what he ate last.

AuH20

01-28-2018, 11:43 AM

Feels like every other day Sessions is either part of the deep state or part of the grand defense against it based on what he ate last.

The same people pushing the nonsense about Gitmo tribunals. Do you think their relatives would take that lying down?

TheCount

01-28-2018, 11:50 AM

The same people pushing the nonsense about Gitmo tribunals. Do you think their relatives would take that lying down?

You're so deep in the fan fiction that I genuinely have no idea what you're even talking about.

Brian4Liberty

01-28-2018, 12:17 PM

That snake Sessions is trying to run interference again for the Deep State. Trump should just declassify the memo and take away the middle men holding the country hostage.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-27/trump-ignores-doj-warning-notifies-sessions-he-wants-fisa-memo-released

The actual source for this info is the Washington Neocon Swamp Post. They want to get rid of Sessions. Apparently the Swamp has done a good job of turning the base against him.

Jan2017

01-28-2018, 12:32 PM

It's interesting that it was reported that the Deep State within D.C. were shopping around for support of the coming assassination of DJT. Obviously, it's far easier to actually kill the POTUS than covering up the trail in the aftermath. That's the hard part. Knitting together enough support for the post-assassination coverup is the key aspect of any successful coup d'etat. I suspect those lost text messages encapsulate some of this plot if I had to guess.

Feels like every other day Sessions is either part of the deep state or part of the grand defense against it based on what he ate last.

Yeah . . . that is exactly what the Deep State would want though - create that confusion.

"deep state" (nice play on "deep throat" and Nixon) are the kind of people who do this.

The quotes (above and below) are pretty good, and are verbatim from posts in a now closed thread in
some other forum I stumbled on - folks are talking about this stuff, fer' sure - if allowed.
University sports "Off-Topic" threads are getting alot of this traffic it seems - Georgia 'Dawgs to VA Tech sites come to mind.

I said I thought Trump would get assassinated if he was not impeached. The article was right about Nixon being in trouble with the deep state, and it wasn't just Watergate. They were not joyous about the China diplomacy. Going against the deep state is what got Kennedy assassinated. He was in a political fight with the deep state after the Bay of Pigs fubar from CIA backstabbing. Trump's trade policies goes against YUGE multi-national corporate interests, tied to the military industrial complex, hence the media animosity. If he had decided to continue with Hillary neoliberal policies, the media would have expert interviews explaining how pussy grabbing was good for general health and the economy. The thing of it is, is he is no Nixon, and he is definitely not a Jack Kennedy.
As I have posted earlier, who are we rooting for, anyhow? We have had dictatorial rule since the Kennedy assassination. Now they have power opposition, and the people are really caught in the middle.

This seems to be a very casual conversation about a government agency trying to over turn a decision made by the electorate. I happened to have voted against this guy but I'm not ready for the CIA or some double dipping retired military officers substituting their judgement for their civilian authority.

seapilot

01-28-2018, 12:56 PM

This reminds me of the wiki leaks before the election. A little bit keeps coming out at a time. If there are indeed FBI and DoJ whistle blowers and they feel confident that the info can now be made public without internal blow-back its going to keep piling on like an avalanche.

Swordsmyth

01-28-2018, 12:58 PM

The actual source for this info is the Washington Neocon Swamp Post. They want to get rid of Sessions. Apparently the Swamp has done a good job of turning the base against him.

We might be more willing to wait and see about Sessions if he would shut up about asset seizure and crushing legalized weed.

If he is really doing good things under the radar he is doing a horrible job with his choice of cover activities and rhetoric.

AuH20

01-28-2018, 01:04 PM

We might be more willing to wait and see about Sessions if he would shut up about asset seizure and crushing legalized weed.

If he is really doing good things under the radar he is doing a horrible job with his choice of cover activities and rhetoric.

He let Lois Lerner go without any punishment. He is most likely compromised.

Brian4Liberty

01-28-2018, 01:07 PM

We might be more willing to wait and see about Sessions if he would shut up about asset seizure and crushing legalized weed.
...

My hypothesis is that he has been manipulated by the deep staters surrounding him to focus on those two issues. Probably pretty easy to do. It will keep him busy, and make him unpopular at the same time.

Brian4Liberty

01-28-2018, 01:15 PM

He let Lois Lerner go without any punishment. He is most likely compromised.

Trusted FBI Deep State Employee to Sessions: "You know Jeff, we looked into that from top to bottom. We spent a lot of time on it, but could never get enough evidence to indict or convict Lerner. It's a dead end. But you know what, we have some really good intel on the drug dealers and drug gangs. We can confiscate their money and put a lot of them behind bars. These are some real bad hombres we can bring to justice."

timosman

01-28-2018, 01:23 PM

Good cop, bad cop is my fav game theory routine. Makes me feel I have a chance to win :rolleyes:

Wake up AuH2O, u are smarter than this.

A simpler theory is a generally miserable person hitching the liberty wagon and bitching every chance they get about how terrible the world is. :cool:

TheCount

01-28-2018, 02:50 PM

Trusted FBI Deep State Employee to Sessions: "You know Jeff, we looked into that from top to bottom. We spent a lot of time on it, but could never get enough evidence to indict or convict Lerner. It's a dead end. But you know what, we have some really good intel on the drug dealers and drug gangs. We can confiscate their money and put a lot of them behind bars. These are some real bad hombres we can bring to justice."

And then Spock and Dumbledore started making out.

enhanced_deficit

01-28-2018, 03:21 PM

There seem to be multiple threads on memogate. It's release should be very good news for Trump-Kushner team.

Is this same material that is supposedly in the explosive memo that is not being released to public?

If so, as noted elsewhere this could be potentially very good news for Trump and respected WH advisor Jared Kushner as this could negate the very basis of witchhunt "Russia gate" scandal.

Quote:
If the claims being made about this memo are factual, that could undermine the very basis for Mueller investigation ?

IF that turned out to be the case, then all the secondary gates/scandals linked to/stemmed from original "Russia gate" (such as Israel-Flynn gate (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517312-Breaking-Flynn-says-Trump-directed-him-to-make-contact-with-Russians&), Bannon claimed Kushner money laundering gate (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518162-The-Kushner-s***-is-greasy-Bannon-predicts-Mueller-will-roll-up-president-s-son-in-law&), latest Peggy Peterson-Michael Cohen (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518567-Never-Trumpers-doing-excessive-Stormy-Daniels-porn-searches&p=6576479&viewfull=1#post6576479) gate etc) would also become moot?

This would be huge news if confirmed.

That snake Sessions is trying to run interference again for the Deep State. Trump should just declassify the memo and take away the middle men holding the country hostage.

Trump with help of his allies (Freedom Caucus, GOP base , Javanka wing of GOP, zionist wing of Israel firster lobbies etc) should be able to stand up to deep stage forces. But he may have limited window, he should take on them before any major DACA cracks occur in support from his conservative base.

The actual source for this info is the Washington Neocon Swamp Post. They want to get rid of Sessions. Apparently the Swamp has done a good job of turning the base against him.

If Trump went "Bannon" on Sessions next, GOP base revolt could accelerate. Trump may not be able get enough political cover from Javanka wing/Schumer-Pelosi support in that event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwLJdnl41XY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwLJdnl41XY

Jan2017

01-28-2018, 03:23 PM

That snake Sessions is trying to run interference again for the Deep State. Trump should just declassify the memo . . .

Best that they are doing this the Congressional summary way that Nunes is doing it, imho. Sh!t will hit the fan now anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkTDnT7Tnw4

The Clamor over the Nunes ‘FISA Abuse’ Memo

"The memo reportedly addresses an issue that is at least as significant as election meddling by Russia ...
namely: election meddling by the intelligence and law-enforcement arms of government and Clinton-campaign collusion in it.

The moment that the “collusion with Russia” narrative is no longer politically viable (and we may be nearing that point
if the Steele dossier is its foundation), Democrats will return to their default appeasement mode and goofy “Reset” buttons.

. . . even if there was no need to appoint a special counsel to lead such an investigation, Mueller has been working the issue
and his conclusions should prove valuable. They will not rise or fall on the question of whether Obama-era executive agencies
abused their powers.

Democrats contend that Chairman Nunes is engaged in a partisan stunt. The allegation that the Obama administration
put the law-enforcement and intelligence arms of the federal government in the service of the Clinton campaign to undermine
the Trump campaign is, they maintain, an overwrought conspiracy theory.
If that is true, then Democrats — who have had the opportunity to review the memo — should be clamoring for it to be disclosed,
not fighting its release.

Congressman Nunes is pressing ahead nonetheless. So . . . let’s see what he’s got."

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455757/release-the-memo-lets-see-in-it

Brian4Liberty

01-28-2018, 06:03 PM

And then Spock and Dumbledore started making out.

Smart ass. You prefer wild conspiracy theories to common sense?

TheCount

01-28-2018, 06:53 PM

Smart ass. You prefer wild conspiracy theories to common sense?

Common sense? I'm not seeing a whole lot of that. What, exactly, is the logic that is leading you to believe that Sessions is not part of the deep state but that the rest of the DOJ/FBI is?

Can you explain it without mentioning Trump?

pcosmar

01-28-2018, 07:08 PM

Common sense?

Yes,, and I'm not a fan of Sessions or Trump,, But from the effort made to cover up,,

Common sense would expect something to hide.

Release the information..

juleswin

01-28-2018, 07:13 PM

A simpler theory is a generally miserable person hitching the liberty wagon and bitching every chance they get about how terrible the world is. :cool:

Yea, I bitch about everything, as it turned out, Ron Paul didn't actually cure my apathy, he left with wanting more than human society could deliver and I have been suffering since them.

timosman

01-28-2018, 07:19 PM

Yea, I bitch about everything, as it turned out, Ron Paul didn't actually cure my apathy, he left with wanting more than human society could deliver and I have been suffering since them.

+rep ;)

Brian4Liberty

01-28-2018, 07:20 PM

Common sense? I'm not seeing a whole lot of that. What, exactly, is the logic that is leading you to believe that Sessions is not part of the deep state but that the rest of the DOJ/FBI is?

Can you explain it without mentioning Trump?

Where is your evidence that Sessions is "part of the deep state"?

Can you explain it without defending the Democrats?

goldenequity

01-28-2018, 07:25 PM

...

There is a great deal of intellectual dishonesty within media as they discuss the FBI and DOJ demanding to see the Nunes memo prior to its release.

The FBI and DOJ are part of the executive branch. When the House Intelligence Committee votes to release the Nunes Memo,
they are in fact giving that memo to the executive branch (President Trump) prior to release.

President Trump is the head of the executive branch. The DOJ and FBI are within the executive branch.
When Nunes releases the House Intel memo to the executive branch, they are giving the memo to the FBI and DOJ in advance of public release.

It is not up to Chairman Nunes to decide to give the memo to specific leadership within the FBI or DOJ;
that decision is entirely up to President Trump who is the boss over the FBI and DOJ leaders who are demanding to see it.

By accurately following the statutory and constitutionally mandated balance of power,
the corrupt entities within the FBI are asking the wrong person to see the evidence.
If the FBI or DOJ wants to see the memo in advance, they need to ask President Trump, not Devin Nunes.

RJB

01-28-2018, 07:43 PM

Can you explain it without defending the Democrats?

This is where he usually disappears from the conversation.

juleswin

01-28-2018, 08:15 PM

Where is your evidence that Sessions is "part of the deep state"?

Can you explain it without defending the Democrats?

Its is the fu*king deep state (which there isn't much evidence of it existence apart from a few prominent people saying deep state). How do you expect anyone to provide you evidence of someone being in a shadowy organization that nobody really have evidence of its existence?

Aren't you asking a bit too much here.

How about you provide evidence of anyone at all that is in the deep state before he provides his evidence? it could be the president, VP, spokesperson etc Just a name and evidence of their membership in the deep state.

Slave Mentality

01-28-2018, 08:21 PM

Yea, I bitch about everything, as it turned out, Ron Paul didn't actually cure my apathy, he left with wanting more than human society could deliver and I have been suffering since them.

Yep. Give me the blue pill already.

timosman

01-28-2018, 08:25 PM

Yep. Give me the blue pill already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXX-HuhPGR4

Gumba of Liberty

01-28-2018, 09:01 PM

Its is the fu*king deep state (which there isn't much evidence of it existence apart from a few prominent people saying deep state). How do you expect anyone to provide you evidence of someone being in a shadowy organization that nobody really have evidence of its existence?

Aren't you asking a bit too much here.

How about you provide evidence of anyone at all that is in the deep state before he provides his evidence? it could be the president, VP, spokesperson etc Just a name and evidence of their membership in the deep state.

A “Deep State” is a state within a state that controls the levers of power. The state controlled by the Deep State is a “Puppet State”.

Our Deep State is a nexus of institutions such as Wall Street (Fractional Reserve) Banks, Multinational (Limited Liability) Corporations, a Central Bank (the Federal Reserve), Hollywood Media Networks, Intelligence Agencies (CIA, NSA, FBI) and pedophile politicians controlled by 19th century “Old Money” Industrialists and European Banking Dynasties.

Our Puppet State is your ass.

nikcers

01-28-2018, 09:07 PM

Where is your evidence that Sessions is "part of the deep state"?

Can you explain it without defending the Democrats?

He is a cheerleader for the Iraq war and Afghanistan. He is pro civil asset forfeiture, war on drugs, patriot act, spying on Americans without a warrant, and so is Trump because he is the one who picked him and listens to his advice, he surely isn't listening to Rand on these issues.

goldenequity

01-28-2018, 09:24 PM

957749551879938048

timosman

01-28-2018, 11:08 PM

A “Deep State” is a state within a state that controls the levers of power. The state controlled by the Deep State is a “Puppet State”.

Our Deep State is a nexus of institutions such as Wall Street (Fractional Reserve) Banks, Multinational (Limited Liability) Corporations, a Central Bank (the Federal Reserve), Hollywood Media Networks, Intelligence Agencies (CIA, NSA, FBI) and pedophile politicians controlled by 19th century “Old Money” Industrialists and European Banking Dynasties.

Our Puppet State is your ass.

People know about it? Does it make them depressed?:cool:

Swordsmyth

01-28-2018, 11:28 PM

While lawmakers have been incredibly mum over the specifics of a four-page "FISA memo" containing allegations of FBI and DOJ malfeasance against then-candidate Donald Trump and his team, Rep. Trey Gowdy appeared on Fox News Sunday where he dropped the most telling breadcrumbs about the contents of the memo to date.

“If you think your viewers want to know whether or not the dossier was used in court proceedings, whether or not it was vetted before it was used, whether or not it’s ever been vetted — if you are interested in who paid for the dossier, if you are interested in Christopher Steele’s relationship with Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee, then, yes, you will want the memo to come out,” -Trey Gowdy
“Do you want to know that the Democratic National Committee paid for material that was never vetted, that was included in a court proceeding?” Gowdy asked rhetorically.

“Do you want to know whether or not the primary source in these court proceedings had a bias against one candidate? Do you want to know whether or not he said he’d do anything to keep that candidate from becoming president?”

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-28/gowdy-drops-big-hints-about-fisa-memo-fbi-misuse-funding-and-hillarys-relationship

timosman

01-28-2018, 11:31 PM

Why do they think it's ok to do this? Shouldn't they tell us who is behind this? I doubt sen. Graham runs the show.:cool:

Danke

01-28-2018, 11:38 PM

Its is the fu*king deep state (which there isn't much evidence of it existence apart from a few prominent people saying deep state). How do you expect anyone to provide you evidence of someone being in a shadowy organization that nobody really have evidence of its existence?

Aren't you asking a bit too much here.

How about you provide evidence of anyone at all that is in the deep state before he provides his evidence? it could be the president, VP, spokesperson etc Just a name and evidence of their membership in the deep state.

I think it has been explained. You don’t need to call it the “deep state” and or “shadow government.” It is basically all those entrenched bureaucrats that run things where it really doesn’t matter much who wins the elections. As like the unelected federal judges (etc.) who against the rule of law over rule what the Democratically elected politicians try to implement.

Swordsmyth

01-28-2018, 11:48 PM

Trey Gowdy (R-SC) says he has "100 percent" confidence in Robert Mueller to conduct a fair investigation if he's given the proper time and resources, and urged lawmakers criticizing the special counsel to "leave him the hell alone," the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman told Fox News Sunday.

Gowdy notably did not join fellow House Republicans last month in their efforts to build a case against the FBI and DOJ (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-22/house-republicans-secretly-gathering-evidence-launch-case-against-doj-and-fbi-report) for "improper" and perhaps criminal mishandling of the salacious and unproven 34-page "Trump-Russia" dossier. As POLITICO reported at the time, "A congressional aide with knowledge of the meetings said Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) was not among the participants. ”While he does believe the FBI and DOJ have recently made decisions worth looking into, he [Gowdy] is and will always be a defender of the FBI, DOJ and the special counsel," the aide said.
Of course, Gowdy having spearheaded the controversial Benghazi probe puts him on equal footing with the FBI when it comes to Hillary Clinton exonerations.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-28/gowdy-100-percent-confident-mueller-tells-lawmakers-leave-him-hell-alone

timosman

01-28-2018, 11:52 PM

Of course, Gowdy having spearheaded the controversial Benghazi probe puts him on equal footing with the FBI when it comes to Hillary Clinton exonerations.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-28/gowdy-100-percent-confident-mueller-tells-lawmakers-leave-him-hell-alone

That was really something. I mean the probe. He really got to the bottom of it.:cool:

Gumba of Liberty

01-29-2018, 05:45 AM

People know about it? Does it make them depressed?:cool:

IDK does the truth hurt timosman? Nature isn’t kind to all of us.

timosman

01-29-2018, 05:53 AM

IDK does the truth hurt timosman? Nature isn’t kind to all of us.

I truly believed the reality had a well-known liberal bias. Now it turns out it was the deep state.:eek:

Working Poor

01-29-2018, 06:07 AM

If Graham is for it then I am against it. If he is against it I am for it.

specsaregood

01-29-2018, 06:08 AM

I'd like to hear trump read the memo at the SOTU.

Jan2017

01-29-2018, 07:15 AM

Jan. 28, 2018 Secret Memo Hints at a New Republican Target: Rod Rosenstein
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/28/us/politics/rod-rosenstein-carter-page-secret-memo.html

A secret, highly contentious Republican memo reveals that Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein approved an application to extend surveillance of a former Trump campaign associate shortly after taking office last spring, according to three people familiar with it.

The memo’s primary contention is that F.B.I. and Justice Department officials failed to adequately explain to an intelligence court judge in initially seeking a warrant for surveillance of Mr. Page that they were relying in part on research by an investigator, Christopher Steele, that had been financed by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

Democrats who have read the document say Republicans have cherry-picked facts to create a misleading and dangerous narrative.

In a speech on Friday in Norfolk, Va., Mr. Sessions appeared to wade into the debate. Without mentioning the Republican memo,
he said that federal investigations must be free of bias, and that he would not condone “a culture of defensiveness.”
While unfair criticism should be rebutted, he added, “it can never be that this department conceals errors when they occur.”

goldenequity

01-29-2018, 10:24 AM

Jan. 28, 2018 Secret Memo Hints at a New Republican Target: Rod Rosenstein

That should be interesting. **popcorn**

Realize this:
If the memo release comes WITH 'recommendations' for indictment/prosecutions (like was done with Christopher Steele)...
then
It will go to the Justice Dept...
but
Sessions, having already recused himself...
would then 'defer' the decisions to.... (wait for it)...

Rod Rosenstein. :)

Chaffetz makes the point....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzqH6rncr1g

goldenequity

01-29-2018, 10:39 AM

seapilot

01-29-2018, 11:28 AM

Freaking out? Threats of criminal investigation on Nunes if the memo is released. They really do not want this coming out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0qr6M87qlU

Valli6

01-29-2018, 11:45 AM

It's now being reported that Andrew McCabe is stepping down.

FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, frequent target of Trump's ire, steps down: NBC News
Jacob Pramuk... Published 14 Mins Ago 12:41 PM ET Mon, 29 Jan 2018

...stepping down effective Monday, NBC News reported.

McCabe, who served a brief stint as acting director of the bureau after Trump fired ex-FBI chief James Comey, was already expected to leave. He will stay on leave and the FBI payroll until he is eligible to retire with full benefits in March, according to NBC... https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/29/fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-frequent-target-of-trumps-ire-steps-down-nbc-news.html

AuH20

01-29-2018, 11:47 AM

The Kenyan will not go to jail, but his fabricated reputation will take a hit.

goldenequity

01-29-2018, 11:47 AM

It's now being reported that Andrew McCabe is stepping down.
#firehisass
then
#jailhisass

devil21

01-29-2018, 11:52 AM

Where is your evidence that Sessions is "part of the deep state"?

Can you explain it without defending the Democrats?

Easy peasy. Attorneys work for the Rothschilds, seeing how the legal structure in this country is the Rothschild's "commercial" system, not common law or constitutional law. The attorney around the corner may not be expressly aware of it but I assure a long-term Senator turned Attorney General is very, very aware of it. The 'Deep State' is essentially the banker apparatus (CIA, NSA, eg), directed from the City of London, that directs society regardless of the will of the sheeple. In reality, it uses media in various forms to create the will of the people. There's no way that a long-term US Senator has no idea about all of this.

phill4paul

01-29-2018, 12:10 PM

House panel poised to vote on surveillance memo release, as FBI boss pays visit to Hill

A key House committee is set to vote as early as Monday on whether to make public a classified memo that top congressional Republicans say details government surveillance abuses -- and has emerged at the center of a power struggle in Washington.

Those who have seen the document suggest it reveals what role the unverified anti-Trump "dossier" played in the application for a surveillance warrant on at least one President Trump associate.

While the White House seems to favor the memo's release, the Justice Department has pushed back hard. Sources told Fox News' Catherine Herridge that FBI Director Christopher Wray went to the Capitol on Sunday to view the four-page memo.

Fox News senior judicial analyst weighs in ahead of the House panel vote to release the Obama surveillance report.Video
Napolitano: FISA memo should and will be made public
According to one source, Wray was asked to point out inaccuracies or other issues with the wording -- and said he would need “his people to take a look at it.” The source said the review is ongoing.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/29/house-panel-poised-to-vote-on-surveillance-memo-release-as-fbi-boss-pays-visit-to-hill.html

TER

01-29-2018, 12:17 PM

Wray read the memo yesterday and then McCabe resigns.

Rod Rosenstein likely next to resign.

The heads of traitors begin to roll.

Watch for FFs this week...

Brian4Liberty

01-29-2018, 12:32 PM

Easy peasy. Attorneys work for the Rothschilds, seeing how the legal structure in this country is the Rothschild's "commercial" system, not common law or constitutional law. The attorney around the corner may not be expressly aware of it but I assure a long-term Senator turned Attorney General is very, very aware of it. The 'Deep State' is essentially the banker apparatus (CIA, NSA, eg), directed from the City of London, that directs society regardless of the will of the sheeple. In reality, it uses media in various forms to create the will of the people. There's no way that a long-term US Senator has no idea about all of this.

Well, "aware" is different than being a card-carrying member of the deep state (Andy McCabe style). I don't believe that every member of Congress and every lawyer are part of the deep state. Rand is aware, but he is not a member of the corrupt deep state.

TER

01-29-2018, 12:34 PM

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/3747ca1cb6dc39d4d17a9811d7ecdf86a1b5e41fdbce8245ce edcb3b05aae760.jpg/DUuiETQVQAAfdg4.jpg

Brian4Liberty

01-29-2018, 12:35 PM

Wray read the memo yesterday and then McCabe resigns.

Rod Rosenstein likely next to resign.

The heads of traitors begin to roll.

Watch for FFs this week...

Yeah, they will offer a few sacrifices in hope of stopping a spread of the investigation. It will probably work. Strzok and Page will have to go too.

Jamesiv1

01-29-2018, 12:38 PM

Freaking out? Threats of criminal investigation on Nunes if the memo is released. They really do not want this coming out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0qr6M87qlU
It contains double super top secret stuff? Wasn't it just made available to everybody in Congress? Do they all have double super top secret clearance?

Jamesiv1

01-29-2018, 12:40 PM

I'd like to hear trump read the memo at the SOTU.That would be amaze-balls.

TER

01-29-2018, 12:45 PM

Yeah, they will offer a few sacrifices in hope of stopping a spread of the investigation. It will probably work. Strzok and Page will have to go too.

This is only the beginning. Gowdy will take Rosensteins place and reopen the investigation to Hillary’s servers. This doesn’t end until she is locked up and a bunch more are locked up. As of January 26, the count of sealed indictments is up to over 13000. The storm may not be happening as quick as some want, but it has already rolled in and will go on for a long time. The only card up the sleeve of the DS is ‘alien’ bs and false flags.

Grab some popcorn..

PierzStyx

01-29-2018, 01:05 PM

Smart ass. You prefer wild conspiracy theories to common sense?

Nope. Which is why the mass conspiracy theory you're proposing sounds like so much horse manure.

TER

01-29-2018, 01:07 PM

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/2104a7212a5b174906b55f3eba3b82d1083e34d62bfdef857d d7aca61c2c30f8.jpg

seapilot

01-29-2018, 01:16 PM

aha... :D

FBI Official: Rosenstein Will Be Fired After Memo Released; USED Bogus Trump Dossier for FISA Warrant
https://truepundit.com/fbi-official-rosenstein-will-fired-memo-released-used-bogus-trump-dossier-fisa-warrant/

and of course...
HE appointed Mueller....

https://a.disquscdn.com/get?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FDUut 5OpX4AACq-c.jpg&key=cnvAjNSoGVGJkGv0KVIslw&w=800&h=466

Brian4Liberty

01-29-2018, 02:00 PM

This is only the beginning. Gowdy will take Rosensteins place and reopen the investigation to Hillary’s servers. This doesn’t end until she is locked up and a bunch more are locked up. As of January 26, the count of sealed indictments is up to over 13000. The storm may not be happening as quick as some want, but it has already rolled in and will go on for a long time. The only card up the sleeve of the DS is ‘alien’ bs and false flags.

Grab some popcorn..

Gowdy would be quite a show. Would be preferable to have someone less partisan, but at least he wouldn't be trying to cover up his past actions at the FBI like these other guys.

timosman

01-29-2018, 02:04 PM

The Kenyan will not go to jail, but his fabricated reputation will take a hit.

That's OK, imagine not being able to show up in public without seeing signs of disapproval from everybody. He will have to stay on the down low even more than GWB.:cool:

TER

01-29-2018, 02:09 PM

https://a.disquscdn.com/get?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FDUut 5OpX4AACq-c.jpg&key=cnvAjNSoGVGJkGv0KVIslw&w=800&h=466

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/a34e677970f30dbe63ba006040eafa973d2718eda49e5df8b3 32177a7c23d5c8.png

TER

01-29-2018, 02:10 PM

The Kenyan will not go to jail, but his fabricated reputation will take a hit.

Don’t be so sure of that....

Brian4Liberty

01-29-2018, 02:18 PM

Nope. Which is why the mass conspiracy theory you're proposing sounds like so much horse manure.

We'll see what happens to Rosenstein, Sessions assistant. It would be interesting to know if he was one of the 16 that McCabe was comfortable enough to rant in front of about taking down Trump.

At the congregation where McCabe went off the political rails and vowed to destroy Flynn and Trump, there were as many as 16 top FBI officials (https://truepundit.com/exclusive-fbis-own-political-terror-plot-deputy-director-and-fbi-brass-secretly-conspired-to-wage-coup-against-flynn-trump-2/)

pcosmar

01-29-2018, 02:26 PM

We'll see what happens to Rosenstein, Sessions assistant. It would be interesting to know if he was one of the 16 that McCabe was comfortable enough to rant in front of about taking down Trump.

I wonder which ones ran the Lavoy Finicum Murder coverup. and who was involved in the Bundy Assault.

Swordsmyth

01-29-2018, 03:13 PM

Nope. Which is why the mass conspiracy theory you're proposing sounds like so much horse manure.

What's it like working for the Deepstate?

Jan2017

01-29-2018, 03:39 PM

It's now being reported that Andrew McCabe is stepping down.

FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe resigns

Wait a sec . . . also reported he is taking a leave and officially will be on pay status until his March retirement date ?

It contains double super top secret stuff?

It is a summary of Nunes findings . . . Dems are calling it cherry-picking of facts and Schiff/Schumer wants to present
the Dim version - this should be fun.

devil21

01-29-2018, 05:51 PM

Well, "aware" is different than being a card-carrying member of the deep state (Andy McCabe style). I don't believe that every member of Congress and every lawyer are part of the deep state. Rand is aware, but he is not a member of the corrupt deep state.

The attorneys in Congress, which is probably 90% of them, know and participate. Rand and Ron are not attorneys so they didn't expressly take oaths to the Rothschilds (via BAR oath and membership) but I'm certain Ron, at least, is aware of how the system works and has informed Rand. Ron delivered babies and signed off on the new "cargo" delivered every day. I believe it is what prompted him to start studying economics when he became aware of what his signature on a birth record actually created. The medical hippocratic oath isn't far removed from the BAR oath, however. It's an oath to various Greek gods and why the standard depiction of Baphomet always has the medical caduceus as Baphomet's penis. Interesting topic...

TheCount

01-29-2018, 10:34 PM

Where is your evidence that Sessions is "part of the deep state"?

I'm not saying that he is. What I'm trying to point out is that the definition of deep state, and who is a part of it, is completely arbitrary and is entirely a matter of Trumpian identity politics.

In this case, you're saying that a man with 40 years of government employment, a man who has never seen a neoconservative policy that he didn't like, who served on homeland security, budget, and armed forces committees, is not a part of the deep state. The guy who proposed legislation with a mandatory death penalty for drug dealers, that guy is not part of the deep state? Because... He 'took the red pill' two years ago and backed the right horse?

Seems like pure identity politics to me. Everybody that doesn't toe the line of the revolution is an enemy of the revolution.

timosman

01-29-2018, 11:30 PM

I'm not saying that he is. What I'm trying to point out is that the definition of deep state, and who is a part of it, is completely arbitrary and is entirely a matter of Trumpian identity politics.

In this case, you're saying that a man with 40 years of government employment, a man who has never seen a neoconservative policy that he didn't like, who served on homeland security, budget, and armed forces committees, is not a part of the deep state. The guy who proposed legislation with a mandatory death penalty for drug dealers, that guy is not part of the deep state? Because... He 'took the red pill' two years ago and backed the right horse?

Seems like pure identity politics to me. Everybody that doesn't toe the line of the revolution is an enemy of the revolution.

Missing sarcasm?:cool:

Anti Federalist

01-30-2018, 02:07 PM

https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/sessions_weed_ben_garrison-1024x728.jpg

TER

01-31-2018, 11:39 AM

This is only the beginning. (1)Gowdy will take Rosensteins place and reopen the investigation to Hillary’s servers. This doesn’t end until she is locked up and a bunch more are locked up. As of January 26, the count of sealed indictments is up to over 13000. The storm may not be happening as quick as some want, but it has already rolled in and will go on for a long time. The only card up the sleeve of the DS is ‘alien’ bs and (2)false flags.

Grab some popcorn..

(1)

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/3f3be17185d5ba2d08da6e7f57f234f5d8bab0bf83b5bec113 baddd5a58cd159.png

(2)

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/0394b5bccf9c9fee1f2d47a3d1f1b3c3ab2639a47fffdc3669 d45a6006da5abe.jpg

AuH20

01-31-2018, 07:48 PM

Release the goddamn thing!!!! Somebody get a hold of Rand.

https://saraacarter.com/intelligence-agencies-join-fbi-push-plans-release-fisa-abuse-memo/

AuH20

01-31-2018, 07:50 PM

(1)

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/3f3be17185d5ba2d08da6e7f57f234f5d8bab0bf83b5bec113 baddd5a58cd159.png

(2)

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/0394b5bccf9c9fee1f2d47a3d1f1b3c3ab2639a47fffdc3669 d45a6006da5abe.jpg

Gowdy strikes me as an 'all talk, do nothing' swamp creature. He also dropped his mask during an interview a few years back, by stating that he admired the prosecutor in CO that helped sentence McVeigh to death.

AuH20

01-31-2018, 07:57 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwMatgCbErM

timosman

01-31-2018, 08:16 PM

Gowdy strikes me as an 'all talk, do nothing' swamp creature. He also dropped his mask during an interview a few years back, by stating that he admired the prosecutor in CO that helped sentence McVeigh to death.

^^^^ This. If you were ever curious why Hillary isn't in jail, this is the person.

TER

01-31-2018, 08:19 PM

^^^^ This. If you were ever curious why Hillary isn't in jail, this is the person.

There was no way he could get her to jail while Loretta Lynch was AG.

timosman

01-31-2018, 08:20 PM

There was no way he could get her to jail while Loretta Lynch was AG.

When did he become such a chess player?

enhanced_deficit

02-04-2018, 11:28 AM

That snake Sessions is trying to run interference again for the Deep State. Trump should just declassify the memo and take away the middle men holding the country hostage.

There seems to be civil war brewing between GOP-conservative wing (Sessions, Bannon, Coulter, Freedom Caucus etc) and GOP Javanka wing. This could be the toughest challenge Trump will face, dumb Dems were easy game relatively. He has conquered good part of media but GOP base has started to raise muted protests against Trump since DACA meeting.

Bannon claims Trump disparaged Sessions to provide “cover” for Kushner (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?518038-Bannon-claim-that-Trump-disparaged-Sessions-to-provide-%E2%80%9Ccover%E2%80%9D-for-Kushner-could-be-bad-news&)

Bannon’s gripe against Kushner in Vanity Fair continues: He claims that Donald Trump’s disparaging tweets about Attorney General Jeff Sessions were designed to provide “cover” for Kushner by steering negative media attention toward Sessions and away from Kushner as he was scheduled to testify before a Senate committee.

Getting mauled by Steve Bannon might not be the worst thing to happen to the president’s son-in-law this week. He and Ivanka were sued (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/17/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-sued-financial-disclosures-302240) by a private attorney for failing to disclose assets from 30 investment funds on their federal financial disclosure forms. Perhaps more ominous for Kushner, and according (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/22/business/kushner-deutsche-bank-subpoena.html?smid=tw-share) to the New York Times, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn have subpoenaed Deutsche Bank records about Kushner’s family’s real estate business. “There is no indication that the subpoena is related to the investigation being conducted by Robert S. Mueller III,” the Times allowed. Yeah, but wouldn’t you want to be there when Mueller’s team invites Bannon in to talk to him about the Vanity Fair and they ask him, “What did you mean about Jared taking meetings with Russians to get additional stuff? Like, what stuff?”

The Washington Post reports (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/kushners-legal-team-looks-to-hire-crisis-public-relations-firm/2017/12/15/6fbf144c-e1c3-11e7-9eb6-e3c7ecfb4638_story.html?utm_term=.a5f2b518fdef) that his lawyer, Abbe Lowell, has been shopping for a “crisis public relations firm” over the past two weeks. (Senator Robert Menendez, the recent beneficiary of a deadlocked corruption trial, is another Lowell client.)

Jared Kushner and Donald Trump Jr. Could Go to Jail for Money Laundering If Steve Bannon Is Right

By Nicole Goodkind On 1/4/18

http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushne...ndering-771166 (http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushner-donald-trump-jr-steve-bannon-michael-wolff-money-laundering-771166)